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« on: June 10, 2003, 12:27:45 AM »

Thinking of revamping the sorely-neglected "Anime Desktop Theme Tweaks" site, in part due to a final project, but mostly because it looks like cr*p. (: Anyway, I'm looking for anime layout sites and would appreciate suggestions, particularly for anime I've already put up pages for.



Here's some prototype eye-candy from my final project:



Kiki:

http://krypton.fhda.edu/coin078.03/chinced1/final/kiki/



Cowboy Bebop:

http://krypton.fhda.edu/coin078.03/chinced1/final/cb/



Eva:

http://krypton.fhda.edu/coin078.03/chinced1/final/



Utena:

http://krypton.fhda.edu/coin078.03/chinced1/final/utena/





BTW, Ton of anime layouts at this site:

http://www.daydreamgraphics.com/graphics/includes/top10rated.php?type=2





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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2003, 07:54:07 AM »

Those are all really good, especially the Eva one.  They're all similar starting out wise to my web design project.  I couldn't figure out a single theme to stick to though, so I used javascript to make them rotate per refresh ^^;;  http://webclass.towardstars.net/andrew/
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2003, 09:04:05 AM »

Hm... of that bunch, I suggest going with the Eva one.  I think that the Kiki and Bebop ones look a bit akward.  For the Kiki one, the image is a low-quality screenshot and it doesn't stay within the confines defined by the white lines.  For the Bebop one... I suppose it's alright, but the layout looks pretty sparse with only a white backdrop and I personally don't like how the image obviously cuts off Ed's legs.  That can be made less gratting with a little designing.  The Utena one just looks bad if you ask me.  There's nothing wrong with the design, but it's obviously a log design.  As such, it won't be very attractive unless the content is arranged into collumns.  Trying to place frames on top of it... no.  The Eva one is pretty well designed though.  I've seen better and personally strive for better in my works, but it's far from being crap.  I like how everything is nice and contained within that thing that looks like a window.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2003, 10:52:44 AM »

Thanks for the feedback.



Several of the pages will be specific for a particular anime. eg. The Cowboy Bebop page will have links to Cowboy Bebop wallpapers, desktop themes, etc. So if I were to use a different layout, I suspect a reader will say, "If this page is about Cowboy Bebop, why does it have an Eva layout?"



Andrew -- Is your site just for **one** class? (: You young'uns sure are learning lots in school these days. (:



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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2003, 03:47:45 PM »

Uhhh, yep.  It's a little project of mine.  I already knew a lot about HTML and design and such beforehand so it kinda blew everybody else out of the water (even the teacher's, but that's not saying much XD).
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2003, 04:46:56 PM »

ooohh me like, me like the eva one.... I want to add that to my live journal. anyone wants to help me do it?
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2003, 05:11:02 PM »

Quote from: "RyuDOA2Hayabusa"
ooohh me like, me like the eva one.... I want to add that to my live journal. anyone wants to help me do it?



I checked the LJ site and it looks like you'll need a paid account to do major layout changes. Otherwise, you can only change some of the properties of your layout.



LJ customization:

http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqcat=customize



However, in the Eva iframe, you can "simply" put a link to your LJ url. You will then have to customize your LJ to better fit your layout. I **think** you'll want to set your background color to "none". Also, any links in your LJ will need to break frames.



I dunno -- I don't quite see what a 'blog will do that HTML coding can't. I just read the "how to" files in LJ and Blogger.com and customizing a blog template is **not** a trivial task. As far as I can tell, if you can customize a blog, you have the skills to code it by hand. But let me know otherwise.





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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2003, 05:37:08 PM »

an iframe, interesting



My webdesign teacher made this big peeve about using frames, which completely butchered my old navigation layout, so I made a javascript menu that follows the person around ^^  Only 3 extra pages of code for the teacher to sort through  :twisted:



I ended up useing overflow:auto to keep everything in a tiny box.



I've tried customizing LJ, but I had to pay for it, so I moved my blog to my own site hosting (like Tsubasa).  Templates are a cinch to edit, you just need to know your way through HTML.  Then wherever your post you just add the element tag in, and it's done!.  The rest is simply pure HTML, all blog software does is keep it organized for you (so you don't have to copy a whole section of code per post) and archive it by *set length of time here*.  Also stuff like Blogger.com lets you update using software from your desktop instead of going to the site and editing there.



Yes, I have done my homework on blogging.



as for that link, yay for .htaccess XD  We can't access it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2003, 07:45:59 PM »

I personally don't care for iframes.  A bit too inaccessable to me and they really don't offer enough advantages for me to ever consider them in layout work.  I'd much rather do an intensive frame layout.  I'd show you peoples some of my work, but I've since deleted every website with a frame layout I've yet put up.  I have horrendously high standards for myself and I felt that the designs were lacking.



Don't understand just why your teacher doesn't like frames, Sus.  From observations and webstats, I've come to the conclusion that the vast, vast majority of internet users use browsers that support frames.  Besides, they allow for such neat layouts and easy navigation.  It's too much of a hassle to make non-frame sites because any minor change in the site organization will require the alteration of multiple separate HTML files. -_-



I've never used LJ myself.  I was a blogger back in the day.  From day one, I've designed my own layouts.  Not content with a big Blogspot banner at the top of my page, I started on a free webhost with FTP uploading.  It wasn't long before I got my domain though, so I made the switch to Greymatter.  I absolutely adore Greymatter.  So many spiffy customization options. XD  It's a pain to rebuild 300+ entry files though. -_-  I think Movable Type and/or B2 might be better suited for handling so many entries, but I'm already with Greymatter for the long run.



Aa~... one of my favorite things about owning a domain: .htaccess.  The only thing better is customizable error pages. XD
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2003, 11:47:48 PM »

XD despite what you might think, Movable Type is a disappointment.  It uses a MySQL table, but not in a way a php forum uses it.  Instead of building up dynamic content using php, it simply uses the sql to store entries and builds it manually, like Greymatter.  It would be a pain building 300+ entries on a MT run site as well.  I'm still waiting for a php dynamic content run engine to come out.



Frames aren't "W3C" compliant, hate those guys >.<  We had to work around sooo much stuff, and it completely messed up Kima's site because she always use frames.  Personally I think there's 3 levels of web designers who use frames.  Those who don't know what they're doing (starter-up geocities pages), those who know what they're doing and use frames to keep their layout in order (websites with decent navagation and uses frames to keep it all organized), then those who have used frames for their purpose in the past and see that they look unprofessional now (Tsubasa's and mine I guess).



Fix for alteration for multiple separate HTML files, use SSI ^^  I love whoever made that.  If I want to edit my nav bar, all I have to do is change one text file and it'll effect my entire site.  Same with my background and css.  If I wanted to, I can change two files and my site would look COMPLETELY different than it does now, and still have all the same content to boot.  SSI, lifesaver ^^



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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2003, 06:38:40 AM »

Drat... I had some higher hopes for Movable Type....  I'll try it out anyway though. ^_^



Call me old-fashioned, but I haven't worked with a lot of this newer stuff you've mentioned (I have played with CSS though).  I generally like to stick with the traditional tables and frames.  I am a self-taught designer from a few years ago, so it'll take me a while to get up to snuff with all the more current codes and developments.  It's been a good at least five years since I've last really worked on intensive coding.  I do know a lot of HTML though; plenty to assemble very table and frame intensive stuff.



I personally don't think I fit into any of those categories.  I love frame-intensive layouts to death.  Sure, they don't look professional, but what if I want to assemble a site that doesn't look professional?  As a simple example, I aspire to make sites like these on my personal domain.  I think there's a time and place for frames.  Maybe or maybe not on a professional site, but for personal sites, it's all really a matter of choice.



Oh, the reason why my frames sites are down is not because the layout itself was bad.  Rather, it's because I believe that my graphic work on those sites were subpar.  I am so critical about my graphic design work; it's a miracle that I actually put something up on my log.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2003, 09:14:43 PM »

*looks at you people's sites and shrinks*



 They're all purty and way too advannnnnnced for me ;.;
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2003, 10:23:20 AM »

Your site is lovely though, Kima.
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