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#1
Live Programming and Events / Re: Fanime 2017 Art Gallery
November 09, 2016, 04:57:46 PM
Voicing my support, and I am also interested in participating as an artist displaying some of my artwork if the Art Gallery returns. Fingers crossed! I'd love to see the Art Gallery come back better than ever, so thank you guys for working on it. Fanime's Art Gallery is one of the things that makes Fanime unique and better than other anime conventions around the Bay Area.
#2
I may be interested in the wall scroll. PMing you!
#3
2017 update!

I'm especially looking for the Moi Dix Mois necklace and Moi Mete Moitie Blue Jewel Cross necklaces.

I'm also looking to buy Versailles, Malice Mizer, and Moi Dix Mois posters, flyers, and photo books.

Please PM me with photos, details about the condition, and total cost including shipping to California. Thanks!
#4
To everyone who says that Fanime has a long sign-up time window when it was first come first serve: that's not the case. The application always lags like crazy the moment it's online, so it can take 10 minutes to even load the first page. It takes two or three minutes to load the next page after you click 'Submit.' Even if you're there the second the site goes live and type very fast, you might still not even get a spot. Tables sold out in 15 minutes, then 12 minutes in the last few years. Some people never got a chance to get a table because it took them that long to even load the application. While I agree that the week-long sign up period for this year is WAY too excessive (I'd prefer 12 hours max) and that week could be better used for the screening process, the idea that FCFS is slow and guaranteed for Fanime is simply not true.

Don't even get me started on space. Apparently Fanime's staff will never recognize that AA as one of their largest attractions is going to need one of their largest spaces.

But the main problem is still the judging process. Too late to change the system now that staff already committed to it, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE tell us exactly what the panel will be judging on. Also, please don't make it subjective, vague criteria or do things like quotas, because that will just be detrimental not just to this year's AA, but to Fanime's already horrible reputation.
#5
Seconded. Please clarify what the panel will be judging.

1) Is it just a simple scan for following the rules?

2) Are they judging for the best quality?

3) Will they have "quotas" or something similar when it comes to original/fan art, prints/crafts, etc.?

4) If the gallery is fine but there's one or two items that are problematic, will the artist be told to just exclude that item and still get the table (like last year), or will the artist simply not be selected for a table?
#6
I think the problem is less about whether staff is split or not, and more about how the money from registration is split if both cons are using the same reg, if I'm reading OP's posts correctly.
#7
Good point by the OP. I've always wondered why Fanime's quality has been slipping so dramatically every year despite reg prices (regular badge and artist alley, I'm sure it's the same for other events like swap meet, dealers, etc.) either being the same or increasing each year. Fan support is always strong as ever, so that's not the problem. Knowing where the money goes to would be very helpful, especially with the concerns raised by everyone else in this thread.
#8
Whatever we do, pretty please with a cherry on top don't put us back in South Hall. I will happily take less space between tables/aisles over that again. Even with signs/advertising, it's still too out of the way for the average con-goer, and I'm STILL wiping away grime and dust from some of my more delicate/detailed pieces. I had to throw out the gloves on one of my costumes because of the dust. D:

Hopefully the new construction will allow more flexibility for reshuffling, and the old suggestion that Dealer's Hall and AA be moved into the largest/second largest areas and switch gaming to the third largest area still makes a lot of sense. (Hopefully dealer's hall isn't actually going to be split into two exhibit halls, like I heard a while back) I'd imagine Swap Meet and food court would fit nicely into the remaining spaces after those three, especially with the new open areas. I know it's not "that simple," but after all, there is a year between every con to make Fanime better, and it seems like a valid possibility worth exploring at least.
#9
Quote from: Armored-Heart on May 29, 2012, 04:19:57 PM
I haven't noticed anything said about this yet (and quite frankly, trying to even skim through some of these walls of texts is a massive headache!) but I wanted to make a comment regarding the nazi-themed yaoi booth in Dealer's Hall. What the hell, guys? That's incredibly offensive! I understand that some are more sensitive to this sort of thing than others, and some people just don't give a damn at all, but I really don't understand why FanimeCon would allow that sort of merchandise to be sold at the con.

Thank you for bringing this up. While I was in the Artist Alley most of the con and didn't get a chance to see the Dealer's Hall, I am HORRIFIED to hear that something of such an offensive nature is allowed! My reaction is the same as yours: WHAT THE HELL? That is extremely, extremely offensive and I am so upset to hear Fanime let someone have a booth with something like that. It's a very real piece of history that affects many of us closely still, not a joke. It should not be allowed, period.

Also, that Megaman LMFAO skit... I don't even know what to say. It saddens me that masquerade is comprised of skits like that. Distasteful is the right word.
#10
Thanks for letting us know! Is that only for plushies? I know some people have had questions regarding things like fanart on buttons and the like -- is there a ruling on those yet?
#11
Supposedly the monthly fees were an old scam Vistaprint used to do, and they've stopped that since. Check the year those reviews were made.

Either way, read the fine print, you can't go wrong XP
#12
From what I remember in the past, there's no actual height limit. The only requirement is it has to be stable. Not sure if that's changed though?

For those of you who've made PVC displays, how did you construct it? I've been thinking about making one too, but am not sure what sort of construction would be sturdiest. I'm thinking of making it reach around 7 ft high, if that's alright.
#13
Quote from: LadyUni on March 01, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
Hm...

I'm reading quite a few arguments in favor of selling fanart due to the income and how much of a hassle it is to create original work.
While I'm all for selling fanart at a place meant for recognizing such subjects...
...that little detail really bothers me.

If y'all would like your arguments to even be taken into consideration, perhaps you should briefly examine why you're pushing the matter and wonder it's backed by completely selfish/greedy motivation as opposed to professional reasoning.

Just layin' that out there.

Others have already mentioned the whole making fans happy thing, and I have to agree that selling fanart really contributes to the atmosphere of the con -- both for fans looking for their favorite characters, and for the artist too. We get to express our fandom of characters too, and it's a great way to bring fans of the same characters together.

The hassle associated with original art applies to artists who like to draw fanart and can't draw original characters/worlds as well. I think what a lot of people are saying is with a percentage rule, you'd be punishing them and limiting both what they can sell and how much fun they'll get out of the whole experience. While I'm sure the decreased income associated with original art factors into all of this, there are definitely other non-monetary reasons for opposing a percentage rule.

Honestly, some of us aren't even out to make any profit, even though we sell fanart. Especially for first-timers like me, I'd be absolutely delighted to just break even with all my costs, much less actually earn anything from this endeavor.

For the record, I sell both original and fan art. :3



Quote from: chibimonster on March 01, 2012, 10:08:18 PM
Actually, how do these artists draw fanart of characters they don't know at all? Go to google images? I don't mean to criticize, but that's kinda strange. I can understand having to google reference pics if someone's doing a commission, but i someone's going to draw fanart, they should have some time to familiarize themselves with the character's costume and personality. Out-of-character fanart isn't a very good thing. I would never attempt to draw anyone with a complex costume, such as Miku, if I wasn't completely familiar with the way it moved/looked.

What I do when I get a request of someone I don't know (this includes my own art and commissions) is read up on the character, usually their wiki, haha. I'll do some research on their personality, what they do in the plot, and how they're portrayed in existing images (both to make sure my idea fits and that my pose hasn't been taken yet). If I know someone who knows the series, I'll ask them about the character and run my ideas past him or her to make sure it's not OOC. I use Google images to double check details XD
#14
Yes, I understand that the 50/50 rule applies to the number of artworks, not the number of copies that are made of each. Even so, that's a tremendous burden. The hardest part of the process is drawing, not making copies. If you force artists to draw/provide an original work for every fanart they want to sell, it's ridiculously time-consuming. It doesn't matter if I end up only making one copy of the original art or 20 copies, the burden is still there. That, and it still doesn't allow for creative fan artists to do what they do best. Some people make a name for themselves with quality original art, some people make their name with quality fanart. The 50/50 rule would disrespect that, crush sales for some artists, and make Fanime no longer fun and worthwhile for some artists.

Also good point about it possibly dissolving into a check-every-good system. That would be bad. That's why I say keep Fanime's system as it is, it's a good balance as it is.
#15
Honestly, I like the way Fanime's rules are now. No need to change them.

When courts look at copyright infringement and fair use, they look at it on a case-by-case basis. They subjectively evaluate each picture, which is exactly what Fanime's gallery approval system does. I am 100% supporting of the artist who does nothing but creative fanart and believe he or she belongs just as much in Artist Alley as the artist who does 50/50.

Per usual, if forced to choose I would prefer some fanart to be allowed as opposed to banning it altogether, but in general I don't like the idea of enforcing a certain percentage of original/fan art. There's no point.  It just causes an unnecessary burden on artists and can even ruin the experience enough for some people not to come back to AA. The main question is selling the fanart itself, NOT what percentage of your pictures are fanart.
#16
Just curious, what determines who gets approved first and who's still waiting for approval?
#17
Last time I got 8x10 photos printed at Costco (wasn't for AA, it was a different project) they printed a whole string of numbers, the file name, and the Costco cardholder's name on the back of the print. Won't that kind of be a problem and unsightly?
#18
For what it's worth (signed up specifically to comment here, heh) I have to agree with the comment about airspace. When I purchase a booth or table space, I expect my airspace to be free of other things that take away from my utility of my airspace. That would include no double-sided displays behind me. It's the polite, courteous, and professional thing to do. A few users earlier have already pointed out that it is the norm to only have displays facing inwards in almost all professional settings.

Completely for fun, but worth thinking about... As a law student, I have to point out that California law at least has similar laws about property -- even if you have a display or something that is within the borders of YOUR property, if it interferes with or bothers your neighbors, you're required to remove it. Just a little bit of trivia :3 Just because something is within your space (in this case, table space) doesn't mean you can have any kind of display you want. You might still be interfering with someone else's experience, which is really inconsiderate. It's the same reason you shouldn't blast loud music at your booth, even though the boom box is on your table. Try to think about your fellow artists instead of solely promoting your own sales.

The fact that this has suddenly been raised as such a hot button issue tells me that a very large number of people have issues with double-sided displays. It would be blind to say that only a handful of newbies are raising this fuss.

Sometimes less is more, folks.