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Title: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: keitoghostie on February 28, 2013, 11:26:31 AM
Hey I know the swap meet information isn't up yet but after checking last year's rules I still have a few questions:

Is there any restriction on genre?
The bulk of what I'm planning on selling is manga but I have a few miscellaneous items (cosplay (sun)glasses, official but used Homestuck merchandise, band T-shirts, video games, CDs of both Japanese and American origin, other clothes/cosplay items) that aren't directly anime-related but I could see a demand for.  Is it okay to sell those or should I stick only to the anime/manga/figures I want to sell?

I'm (hopefully) hosting a panel sometime during the con, is there any issue with advertising for the panel at my swap meet spot?
To clarify, either a paper flier that stays at the spot or if I included mini-fliers with sold items.

Do I need a seller's permit?

Do I need something dedicated to hold money?
Is a cash box or something similar required or can I use my wallet or a pouch for cash?
Similarly, how much change should I have with me?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on March 01, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: keitoghostie on February 28, 2013, 11:26:31 AM
Hey I know the swap meet information isn't up yet but after checking last year's rules I still have a few questions:

Is there any restriction on genre?
The bulk of what I'm planning on selling is manga but I have a few miscellaneous items (cosplay (sun)glasses, official but used Homestuck merchandise, band T-shirts, video games, CDs of both Japanese and American origin, other clothes/cosplay items) that aren't directly anime-related but I could see a demand for.  Is it okay to sell those or should I stick only to the anime/manga/figures I want to sell?

I'm (hopefully) hosting a panel sometime during the con, is there any issue with advertising for the panel at my swap meet spot?
To clarify, either a paper flier that stays at the spot or if I included mini-fliers with sold items.

Do I need a seller's permit?

Do I need something dedicated to hold money?
Is a cash box or something similar required or can I use my wallet or a pouch for cash?
Similarly, how much change should I have with me?

Is there any restriction on genre?
I sold sonic the hedgehog comics, anime, dc, marvel, all open used items and items reduce off... if you have alot more anime stuff to sell, it would work nice then!.. However always be aware there are alot of pickey people who wants to buy things.
I kinda noticed most fans tend to buy products that was an old anime / anime that was once popular... while the dealers hall most people buy the more recent anime that is popular...
hey i could be wrong but swap meet is swap meet ^ ^!

I'm (hopefully) hosting a panel sometime during the con, is there any issue with advertising for the panel at my swap meet spot?
I think i strong advise NOT to. Seriously, your going to need every penny for change! also i think it would kinda feel like your in the process of dealers hall activity, which swap meet is strongly against!

Do i need a seller's permit?
Don't worry, you dont need one, all you need is to be the age of over 18yrs, must have a valid Identification card, and $20 for a full 10 x 5 swap spot... or was it 4x6......ARGH! i forgot I KNOW its a ten!

Do I need something dedicated to hold money?
you can use both actually O_O!. or either one of them! Seriously, it's alot of people comming through the door. THE LINE for entrance is VERY long!....

Bonus questions::
Can i sell rare anime for what is double than its worth?
yes, but make sure you dont scare them like hell, Alot of people rejected the Keyblade play arts arms and I know that if I sold them for a cheaper price, they will either make a big big deal out of it, OR they might say HA i got this cheaper than amazon.com! Point is, if you have an item and dont know how much it's worth, compare it and reduce the price half off and such! even if it's sealed, and dusted, and kinda bended! who knows!

can i give away bags?
Can't san jose wants you to FORCE them to pay ten cents!....

I have a THINGIE that can swipe credit cards on my cellphone, can i use that as alternative payment?
Seriously i found out that now these stores uses ipods/ipads with built in networks to do this process! I applaud them for their alternative payments because lets face it, IMM not spending $3.50 on a damn atm machine -_-! and alotof people are asking for *can you break a $20, or a $50*.. and walking to chase is very very far!

whats a more recommended day? Thursday / friday / both ?
To be honest, thursday sounds like your desperate to sell your stuff, while friday is more chaotic and fun to sell!
i could say both but they cost $20 a spot! and your only allow to have 1 spot (per day), if you have a family member, then its 2 spots (per day) but they too must have a badge (within those days)![or without considering about thursday!]

AFTER THE BLACK OUT THAT HAS HAPPENED, THE RULE STATES THAT YOU MUST HAVE A BADGE ON THURSDAY! the swap meet administrators had to remove that rule and let them in without the use of a badge for swap meet.

What ever happened to the idea where you can get your badge pick up when you registered for swap meet! BACK THEN that was a cool cool idea! save time from the big line!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: keitoghostie on March 01, 2013, 10:46:29 PM
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on March 02, 2013, 04:06:19 AM
Here are a couple of comments to clarify some of the questions/responses posted earlier.  Please keep in mind that I am not a staff member for Swap Meet, and any of this information may differ or can changed at their discretion.  Having said that, however, I do speak with the experience of having sold at the last few meets.

While there are a few exceptions (somebody used an example of roller blades last year) as to what is allowed, there is a lot of flexibility when it comes to the items on sale.  There have been sellers who come with both current gen and retro video games.  Action figures from various sources pop up.  Heck, I even sold a Furby from 2001 last year.  Cosplay items are usually allowed, but remember that mannequins and other large displays are not.  Baseball cards are kind of iffy, but there are always a ton of people selling/trading Magic (and other TCG) cards.  Basically, if there's some crossover between what you'd like to sell and the various fandoms held by the average Fanime attendee, you should be in good shape.

I'm not sure if the panel thing has come up before.  To be honest, I don't know if you'd want to bother with fliers.  They can make a mess if somebody knocks over your stack, and you can be sure Fanime and facility staff aren't going to be very happy about it.  Plus, they'll know exactly who to yell at if you're going to be advertising your own panel.  Besides, you probably won't have any time to actively hand them out since you'll hopefully be busy selling all your stuff.  There shouldn't be any problems with chatting people up for it, though.  There's a lot of con and general anime banter going on, so you should have plenty of opportunity to let people know.

Do you need a seller's permit?  YES!  You absolutely need a seller's permit.  It's actually a temporary permit as required by the state of California, and you will need to have this if you want to sell stuff.  Don't freak out, though, as this isn't as daunting as it may seem.  You will need to print, fill out and sign a single-page form that Swap Meet staff usually have posted as a pdf well in advance.  I should have mentioned this earlier, but there will be a page (hopefully posted soon?) on the main Fanime site with all the rules and requirements to participate as a seller.  They make it really easy to ensure that you've got everything on the up-and-up.  Read and follow everything they post and you shouldn't have a problem.

It's really up to you if you want to have a cash box on hand or not.  Like I mentioned before, I'm usually too busy selling stuff, taking the cash and making change to be able to neatly put the money away.  I do know, however, that there are some sellers who make use of one and don't seem to have any issues with it.  I might suggest having one with you for both transporting any change you'll be bringing (and unless you do have a mobile credit card processor which seemed fairly popular last year, I highly recommend bringing LOTS of small bills) and hopefully the huge stack of cash you're going to be leaving with.  You don't want to walk around with potentially hundreds of dollars stuffed in your pockets when the swap meet gets out late at night.

There were some other fairly random thoughts added above (unless I missed something,) but there were some good points that were brought up.  Bags - can't give them away in San Jose.  At least not plastic bags.  If you happen to have a bunch of reusable shopping bags you don't mind giving away, I don't think there's any conflict with the law there.  If you bring a bunch of paper bags with you, keep in mind that they need to meet certain regulatory standards - which I won't go into detail here - and you'll be required to charge at least ten cents per bag.  I think most people would agree: don't bother bringing paper bags, unless they're for your own use.

Since the con officially begins on a Friday, there aren't quite as many people that show up on Thursday, but there's still plenty of buying/selling to do if you're going to be in the area anyway.  The only conditions that I would let affect your decision to sell/not sell on either day are: 1)Are you going to be in San Jose on Thursday, anyway?  If so, why not check out swap meet?  There are a few sellers who only show up on Thursday, and if you're selling, you may as well try to get rid of some of your stuff so you don't have to haul it all back the next night. 2)Is the seller's fee going to have a big impact on participating?  If you can't afford to pay for both nights, then don't.  I haven't had any trouble making up the fee with what I sell on either day, so if nothing else, at least it's not a financial burden for me. 3)Do you have enough stuff to sell both nights?  If you're lucky you'll sell EVERYTHING you brought on Thursday (has that ever happened for anyone?) and then you'll be able to spend the entirety of Friday night either buying more stuff for yourself or checking out other con stuff.  Are you afraid you won't have enough time with just one night to sell everything you plan on bringing?  Spread it out over both nights and maybe you'll wind up with better results.

The badge pick up at swap meet was mentioned, but I'm not sure if they've figured out all the logistics required to do it.  When they did give it a try, it seemed like an extremely arduous process that, while convenient for the attendees who were also selling, really turned out to be a bigger pain in the side than it was worth.  I think it also really slowed down getting sellers processed, forcing the folks at the end of the line to wait even longer.  I just mention this so people don't get their hopes up.  If someone can figure out a way to pull it off, though, I'd love to see it come back.

tl;dr - If nothing else, be sure to keep your eyes peeled on the Fanime site for news, rules, sign-ups, forms, etc. for the Swap Meet.  Most if not all the important information you need will be posted there.  In years past, there is also an official swap meet thread that pops up closer to the con where that same information and more specific questions will be addressed by staff.  I'm really looking forward to another successful con and meet.  Now I just need to make sure I get my name on the seller's list on time.  Oh, yeah... that last part - also important.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: ewu on March 02, 2013, 08:15:21 AM
Hi! I AM staff, but Ecchi ja Nai got it summarized pretty well.


As for sellers permits, if you are a occasional seller, you do not need a sellers permit. Otherwise, you do. An occasional seller is defined by the BoE, but there is a short description on the SM application form. More info here: http://www.boe.ca.gov/sutax/faqseller.htm (http://www.boe.ca.gov/sutax/faqseller.htm)
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on March 02, 2013, 01:10:26 PM
Quote from: ewu on March 02, 2013, 08:15:21 AM
As for sellers permits, if you are a occasional seller, you do not need a sellers permit.

For my own clarification, if nothing else, are you sure sellers don't need a permit?  Or perhaps I'm mistakenly treating a temporary seller's permit and a full-fledged BoE annual license as two branches of the same tree.  My understanding was that if you were planning on selling normally taxable merchandise, and you are not an otherwise licensed retailer, you need to apply for a temporary permit.  For as far back as I can recall, the completed permit, photo ID, (sometimes a) Fanime badge and the nightly swap meet fee were all required to participate as a seller.  And like I mentioned previously, the form required is available through the swap meet info page; it's not a process that you have to formally work through with the BoE.

To me, a seller's permit is still a seller's permit in this situation, regardless of the fact that almost everyone participating will be using a temporary one.  But perhaps I'm splitting too fine a hair with this.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: ewu on March 02, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
Please see here: http://www.boe.ca.gov/formspubs/pub107/

If you qualify as an occasional seller, you do not need a sellers permit, permanent, temporary or otherwise.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: keitoghostie on March 02, 2013, 07:18:12 PM
Ecchi ja Nai you are awesome, thank you so much!!

I live nearby so being around on Thursday is no issue - I think the only issues that I'm worried about are if I'll have enough to sell over the 2 nights (which is probably in the range of 50-80 items?), and if I'll have the time to dedicate to both nights since I already have a lot of plans in the making but maybe that just makes me a good candidate for Thursday-only?

But yeah cash box sounds like it could be a pretty good move! I work part-time as a cashier so I'm used to that sort of thing.

As far as the whole advertisement thing goes, if I decide to go with it i'll probably just tape a single flier to me or my space in an unobtrusive way? Thanks for the comments though yeah I definitely wasn't thinking the handouts thing through!

Quote from: ewu on March 02, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
Please see here: http://www.boe.ca.gov/formspubs/pub107/

If you qualify as an occasional seller, you do not need a sellers permit, permanent, temporary or otherwise.
Thank you for the clarification! I assumed that's what occasional seller referred to but I didn't want to jump to an incorrect conclusion on that one!
Title: you dont!
Post by: Hachimitsu on March 05, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: Ecchi ja Nai on March 02, 2013, 04:06:19 AM

Do you need a seller's permit?  YES!  You absolutely need a seller's permit.  It's actually a temporary permit as required by the state of California, and you will need to have this if you want to sell stuff.

NO YOU DONT! the last 6-7 fanimes ago sellers permits was not to be used unless you have a full permit! (with a secondary permit of location listings). Most people just sign your forms and agree with terms of services just to sell their stuff..

Only the artist alley / dealers hall must require permits!..

what makes you so sure this year you need a sellers permit this year? I already heard that swap meet is still going to be at the same hotel as last year, but then again kinda concern about the line you guys made! (found out youknow already)

as of now im kinda concern the lines on swap meet! I felt like the first room of the swap meet was more important than the second room! SO i was wondering if that is ever going to be fixed?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on March 05, 2013, 08:20:13 PM
I must just be confusing the form that we're required to have when we're being checked in to sell at swap meet.  It's rare, but I have been proven incorrect on occasion.  ;)

Just to get this cleared up for good, can anyone recall what the form is that we're required to have?  We needed to present the fee to sell, a photo ID, sometimes a Fanime badge, and then whatever the heck the form was that I'm thinking of before staff checked over the items you were bringing in.  Well, last year a little different...

I was fairly sure it wasn't an official BoE document, but I thought it still mentioned something about occasional sellers, not available for people who have a resale license, etc.  I suppose it could have been an internal Fanime form that they wanted to keep on hand for whatever legal reason, but again I thought there was enough to suggest it was a temporary sellers permit.

Hey, better yet, let's get some info and signups posted - that would really put this to rest!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on March 05, 2013, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: Ecchi ja Nai on March 05, 2013, 08:20:13 PM
I must just be confusing the form that we're required to have when we're being checked in to sell at swap meet.  It's rare, but I have been proven incorrect on occasion.  ;)

Just to get this cleared up for good, can anyone recall what the form is that we're required to have?  We needed to present the fee to sell, a photo ID, sometimes a Fanime badge, and then whatever the heck the form was that I'm thinking of before staff checked over the items you were bringing in.  Well, last year a little different...

I was fairly sure it wasn't an official BoE document, but I thought it still mentioned something about occasional sellers, not available for people who have a resale license, etc.  I suppose it could have been an internal Fanime form that they wanted to keep on hand for whatever legal reason, but again I thought there was enough to suggest it was a temporary sellers permit.

Hey, better yet, let's get some info and signups posted - that would really put this to rest!

darn right ^_^!.. and I hope you too get a swap meet spot! because i BARELY got it into the position for the swap meet positions! !
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: DangerHeart on March 14, 2013, 08:20:46 PM
How many people can sell at one spot? My friend is looking to sell quite a few gently used lolita dresses and accessories and we're both looking to sell old anime merch and cosplay supplies. Would we both need to sign up separately?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: ewu on March 14, 2013, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: DangerHeart on March 14, 2013, 08:20:46 PM
How many people can sell at one spot? My friend is looking to sell quite a few gently used lolita dresses and accessories and we're both looking to sell old anime merch and cosplay supplies. Would we both need to sign up separately?

The agreement will state that only two max at each spot.

Thanks
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Anon on March 15, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
we're nearing the 2 month mark soon, are we going to see any updates on the event? Same location as last year, or hopefully back at the convention center? Is there staff assigned to it yet? Spot registration date?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: otakuya on March 16, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on March 01, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: keitoghostie on February 28, 2013, 11:26:31 AM
can i give away bags?
Can't san jose wants you to FORCE them to pay ten cents!....

I believe that ordinance really only applies to large corporate company stores, so a private swap meet (a la, Fanime) should be ok with plastic bags or whatever. Even some local asian markets here still use plastic bags for free (until the City of SJ tells them not to)
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: djmonolith on March 16, 2013, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: Otakuya on March 16, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on March 01, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: keitoghostie on February 28, 2013, 11:26:31 AM
can i give away bags?
Can't san jose wants you to FORCE them to pay ten cents!....

I believe that ordinance really only applies to large corporate company stores, so a private swap meet (a la, Fanime) should be ok with plastic bags or whatever. Even some local asian markets here still use plastic bags for free (until the City of SJ tells them not to)

It is becoming increasingly difficult to find places that give you bags... even my little teeny neighborhood market is all freaked out to give you a bag for free.  Here is the official word on bags:

"The ban will extend to all retailers in the city, exempting restaurants and non-profit reuse organizations"

Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: M on March 17, 2013, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Otakuya on March 16, 2013, 04:10:48 PMI believe that ordinance really only applies to large corporate company stores, so a private swap meet (a la, Fanime) should be ok with plastic bags or whatever. Even some local asian markets here still use plastic bags for free (until the City of SJ tells them not to)

Quote from: djmonolith on March 16, 2013, 04:41:35 PMIt is becoming increasingly difficult to find places that give you bags... even my little teeny neighborhood market is all freaked out to give you a bag for free.  Here is the official word on bags:

"The ban will extend to all retailers in the city, exempting restaurants and non-profit reuse organizations"
We are looking into exactly what will apply to our various events where things are being sold and will hopefully be able to give details before registration opens.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on March 18, 2013, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: Anon on March 15, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
we're nearing the 2 month mark soon, are we going to see any updates on the event? Same location as last year, or hopefully back at the convention center? Is there staff assigned to it yet? Spot registration date?

My thoughts as-well..  The staff is probably trying to figure out where to have the Swap Meet this year, so until they finalize a location, they don't want to say announce anything or open the sign-ups yet.  While I can understand that, it is frustrating.  But we can only hope they announce something soon (like early April)  :-\
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 03, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
About 7 weeks to go until Fanime is here, and still no updates about the Swap Meet?    :-\
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: djmonolith on April 03, 2013, 09:10:10 AM
Where can I find general information on What the swap meet is... I was standing in line during the swap meet last year and missed it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 03, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Eurobeat King on March 18, 2013, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: Anon on March 15, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
we're nearing the 2 month mark soon, are we going to see any updates on the event? Same location as last year, or hopefully back at the convention center? Is there staff assigned to it yet? Spot registration date?

My thoughts as-well..  The staff is probably trying to figure out where to have the Swap Meet this year, so until they finalize a location, they don't want to say announce anything or open the sign-ups yet.  While I can understand that, it is frustrating.  But we can only hope they announce something soon (like early April)  :-\

sadly the hotel is going to be the same!.... ALSO WHAT STAFF? i actually applied twice on emails and I havent receive any responses other than Ewu O_O!... I really do want to work with swap meet for once! WEll I guess i have to wait til time comes v_v!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 03, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
Quote from: Jeimizu on March 29, 2013, 07:32:29 PM

    Does this apply to the Swap Meet as well? My friends and I have used a hand truck in previous years.

It is venue based. When the Swap Meet was in the Fairmont, the rule did not apply. However, the swap meet will be moving back into the SJCCF and the rule will apply this year.

(I was trying to quote from a locked thread, but couldn't figure out how to do it.  See this post here for reference: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,18153.msg454214.html#msg454214 (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,18153.msg454214.html#msg454214))

Given that this is coming from ewu, and that this response is more current than anything else I've heard regarding swap meet this year, it looks like they're bringing it back to the actual convention center.  Personally, I think this works out for all attendees so much better than any other option.  I don't know the specifics about why they moved it to the hotel last year (self-censoring myself here, since I've heard stuff come up, but I know how fervently staff and the board mods look down on speculation) but I had hoped we might eventually find the meet moved back into the middle of the action some day.

Hachimitsu-ink, have you checked the staff boards?  There's a post that leads to a page here: http://apps.fanime.com/2013/staffapply/ (http://apps.fanime.com/2013/staffapply/).  I'd submit your info here if you haven't already.  I'm not staffing myself this year, so I have absolutely no details on what's going on, other than it seems everything is delayed, and we probably won't hear any specifics until a few weeks out from the con.  GOH, MusicFest, Swap Meet, etc., there are scant details to go around for any of these.

Even speed dating is forgoing any type of registration system prior to the event.  I'm not sure how they're going to collect everyone's info without delaying the entire thing, unless people start filling out forms while waiting in line.  I sure as hell hope that we're not forced to do the same for swap meet.  It's a little different when knowing if you're registered to participate or not will determine if you wind up bringing boxes and boxes of stuff with you.

[edit: after posting all that, I thought I should double-check the main page and see if they've posted any updates.  Sure enough, they've mentioned a band called 7!! who'll be performing at MusicFest!  Never heard of them before, but I'll probably still check them out.  As an attendee, though, I think my original sentiment still stands.]
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Sen on April 03, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
No need to speculate...
As you may recall, Swap Meet was in the Gaming Hall. In the few years leading up to its move to the Fairmont last year, it would become so crowded in there that it quickly became a fire hazard! Hence last year it was moved to the Fairmont for lack of a better sized space. This year it is indeed back in the main convention center in Hall 1 where Artist Alley used to be. There will be other yet to be announced events in Hall 1 when Swap Meet isn't going on.

Obviously a lot things have been shuffled around and we are working towards a comprehensive "What went where" announcement for the main website.

Why did you not like the Fairmont for Swap Meet?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Anon on April 03, 2013, 08:33:38 PM
I personally didn't have a problem with the Fairmont, however my partner felt the location not being attached to the convention center hurt day 1 (Thursday) sales. Coupled with the comments from last years aftermath thread, people still couldn't figure out where it was located at. I feel now that it was established and confirmed to be back at the convention center, we'll still run in to the issue of people not knowing where it is, now thinking it may be at the Fairmont. Can't win 'em all I suppose. And I agree with that situation from 2 years ago, when it shared the space with the gaming hall. People were so packed in to that hall, it was insane.

Thank you for shedding some light on the subject Sen. At least now we know the Swap Meet is still on and people are in fact actually working on it. I know you stated that other activities will be happening in the same space during the non-swap meet hours, but will it be exclusively during the non-swap hours? We won't be sharing the hall with the 24 hours gaming area once again will we? Will sellers be given time to get to their spots and set up before unleashing the horde upon them? (I want to say thanks again to staff for giving us that time last year, saved a lot of headache)
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 03, 2013, 10:35:09 PM
I had a couple of issues with the venue, but they were all on this side of inconvenience, rather than anything major.  In fact, up until a couple of weeks ago, I was assuming it would be back at the Fairmont again this year and was still looking forward to signing up (when?) to sell.

Everything pretty much goes back to one gripe: not that swap meet was at the Fairmont, but that it wasn't at the SJCC.  I wasn't concerned so much about the foot traffic on Day 0.  I figured not nearly as many people at there Thursday night as there would be on Friday, after the con officially starts.  Plus, the people who are there don't have a lot to do once they get their badges, unless they want to explore downtown San Jose, which isn't exactly a whole lot on a week night and even more so if you're under 21.  And it seemed like most people buying didn't have much trouble making their way over.

I was staying at the Hilton last year, so I parked under the hotel.  They've got a fairly small lot, so I wasn't going to give up my spot to drive the three or four blocks to the Fairmont.  In doing that, though, I had to lug everything I had all the way through the convention center, across the light rail tracks, and down the street to the hotel.  The same would hold true for those staying at one of the other hotels further from the con, but at least there is plenty of additional parking both at and around the SJCC.  The same thing isn't nearly as true for the Fairmont.

I'd say most people participating knew by that point that swap meet was going to be held at the Fairmont, but once you got to the hotel, there was still some confusion as to where you were actually supposed to go.  When I got there, there was a sign pointing one way, but the hallway was being blocked off by hotel staff.  I didn't see any roamers or other staff in the lobby to direct people where to go.  Once I actually got to the right floor, we wound up on the exact opposite side of the hotel from where we were supposed to line up.  Then there was the whole SNAFU with the power at the SJCC, which was completely out of the control of con staff, but there were two groups of people I saw completely out of breath as they were running down the hall to the end of the line: those who still weren't aware of the move for whatever reason, and those who were stuck in line waiting for their badges and were delayed in getting over.  Power issues aside, it would have been much less of a hassle for most con-goers if it wasn't outside of the convention center.

Some people might point out that the Clockwork Academy was also held at a different location.  Well, I didn't go, which I completely understand was my own choice, but still.  And in reading these boards last year, it seems like there was also a lot of confusion as to where things were and what time they were going on.  At least if something is moved to a different room at the SJCC, at worst you're walking from one end of the hall to the other.

Then there was the fact that everyone was processed in one room on Thursday night, only to be shuffled off to a different room before they could actually start setting up.  Then it was a similar process on Friday night, except there was an additional room where other sellers were posted, which I only found out about after my buddy took a break from selling stuff to make a round of buying.  Once you left the rooms, you had to get in a queue to get back in (again, understandable and expected given the room sizes, the number of people there, and making sure people adhere to the one-entrance/one-exit set up,) but both of the lines wound up running through the same relatively narrow hallway and you couldn't tell which line was going to which room.

I completely agree that the last time swap meet was held in the same room as all the gaming stuff it was way too crowded.  It was a fire/safety hazard, it was uncomfortable to people looking around, it was a hassle for gamers who might have been sitting with their backs to the meet; in general there were just too many people in too small a space.  Except, why did it have to be in the same room as gaming?  Or at the very least, why did so much space have to be dedicated to empty tables?  The two trends I've noticed over the last few years is that swap meet has been getting more and more popular, while the number of video games and the people playing them have gone down.  I'm sure the place is packed when the tournaments are running, but during the off-peak hours, like when swap meet is going on?  Without exaggeration, I think the space devoted to gaming could have been decreased by half on Thursday and Friday night, and it wouldn't have had a negative impact on gamers.  Heck, moving the console games ten more feet away from the wall and closer to the arcade cabinets would have made a huge difference.  Maybe ask SJCC staff to get rid of a half dozen of the empty tables and chairs towards the front of the room and everyone would have been more comfortable.

Putting swap meet into its own room at the SJCC is the best possible thing that staff could do.  I know it takes up a lot of space, and you'd have to find other uses for it when swap meet isn't going on, but having a multipurpose room like that makes so much sense for this con.  The only other thing I could ask for is either the return of the 10x10 seller spaces, or at least not charging the same $20 for a half-size spot.

tl;dr - I am so glad that swap meet is moving back to the SJCC this year.  Having the meet share an entire room with other events that aren't going on at the same time is probably the best possible solution.  Didn't mean for this to turn into such a long rant, but hey, Sen asked.

And finally I do want to echo what others said last year and applaud con ops and staff for allowing people to get in to swap meet without a badge because of the power outage.  Most people were upset because they either had to wait in line for a long time, in some cases for nothing, and/or because they'd have to come back and do it over on Friday.  At least with that one decision most attendees were able to end Day 0 on a positive note.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Sen on April 04, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
No problem. I asked because I just haven't had much feedback from attendees about Swap Meet last year. So thank you both! No you will not be sharing the space with Gaming. Gaming is still Hall 3.

I can imagine the power outage did not help with sales on Thursday night. It was a difficult situation for everyone.

The empty chairs and empty tables you refer to in the Gaming Hall were probably for Table Top Gaming. It actually costs more money for the con if we were to have people come in and move stuff around during con especially during odd hours or on a weekend. That is why we tend to have everything set up in SJCC from the get go. So if you were wondering why some other rooms weren't available, it is because they were already set up for their main events.

Agreed on the confusion! We're gonna do our best to make it as well known as possible where things are going. Even more stuff got moved around this year. Within my division alone half of my departments got moved.  :o

Thanks again for the feedback!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 04, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
I'm glad the Swap Meet will be back inside the SJCC :)  While I thought it was nice (and cleaner) to have it at the Fairmont last year, it just made it difficult for sellers who parked their cars inside the SJCC parking garage to transport their items to/from.  But since I sold about 95% of what I brought to sell, I'm not complaining!   ;D

One question about where the Swap Meet sellers might be lining up before the event on both days?  I know Hall 3 was closer to the Hilton, and they used that long walkway and lined-up against the walls with their items until it was time to check-in.  With Hall 1, the only place I can think of is that hallway in-between Hall 1 and the other panel rooms next to it. 
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 04, 2013, 05:05:52 PM
I dont think swap meet will move to any of the halls after the big announcement of AA moving to a larger venue space, so I guess i have to see where that is going to be located..

Now as for the staff, I did applied for it and emailed 3 times. I only got two responses both from ewu, so I really am hoping to particiate on arriving here on april 7th.

hopefully i can finally work as a staff for Swap meet, since i have a gut feeling they might need some extra help!
so in total: yes I did applied on the staff forms AND emailing swapmeet(at)fanime(dotcom)
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 05, 2013, 02:05:11 AM
Quote from: Sen on April 03, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
This year it is indeed back in the main convention center in Hall 1 where Artist Alley used to be.

This seems pretty solid.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 05, 2013, 02:06:55 AM
Quote from: Eurobeat King on April 05, 2013, 02:05:11 AM
Quote from: Sen on April 03, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
This year it is indeed back in the main convention center in Hall 1 where Artist Alley used to be.

This seems pretty solid.

okay this seems sensible.. and thats good news to hear...
was worried because last year my wheel was stuck on the tracks and it was during a red light!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 05, 2013, 02:19:42 AM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on April 05, 2013, 02:06:55 AM
was worried because last year my wheel was stuck on the tracks and it was during a red light!

That's the kind of stuff I was talking about.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 05, 2013, 02:44:07 AM
Quote from: Ecchi ja Nai on April 05, 2013, 02:19:42 AM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on April 05, 2013, 02:06:55 AM
was worried because last year my wheel was stuck on the tracks and it was during a red light!

That's the kind of stuff I was talking about.

about the rail road tracks and all your swap meet items fell to the ground and the cars honked at you and said get the *Offensive word* out the way!?!?!??!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Anon on April 05, 2013, 05:49:22 AM
I hope you're not planning on selling and working as staff for the swap meet, are you ?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 05, 2013, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Anon on April 05, 2013, 05:49:22 AM
I hope you're not planning on selling and working as staff for the swap meet, are you ?

My sister is going to be in swap meet and maybe my friend

I'm not applying for swap meet this year! I want to apply for Swap meet staffing this year because I KNOW how much they need help on swap meet! If the positions are filled then well, I wish them good luck and hopefully they can help as many registrees as they can.

btw anon, your the 9th person who asked me this question!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Belfry on April 06, 2013, 04:51:14 PM
Quote from: Sen on April 03, 2013, 04:33:54 PMWhy did you not like the Fairmont for Swap Meet?
I disliked the swap meet being at the Fairmont last year primarily due to safety concerns. The swap meet ends late at night, and carting items around downtown San Jose at that hour, instead of just carting them through the convention center, is way more dangerous.

I will say, however, that the Fairmont staff were amazingly helpful. They helped us transport heavy, cumbersome items from downstairs to upstairs and vice versa, and kept me company after midnight while my sister brought her car over to pick up our unsold items. We weren't even staying at the Fairmont and the staff still went out of their way to help us! If not for the Fairmont staff being so wonderful, I would've been very unhappy that the swap meet was outside of the convention center last year.
Title: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 06, 2013, 08:15:09 PM
i have to admit, the fairmont staff was very very helpful carrying parts of our items back to the convention car. I don't know how many people has a hotel and kept their swap meet to, but those who were at the fairmont hotel are very lucky.

The line for Swap meet has grown bigger and I was abit worried about the fire code being violated! (talking about friday)..

So now that we are moving back to The convention, is the pricing for the registration going to be the same? or are they going to raise it?
(i'm guessing raised but not sure why)

Also is it going to be where gaming room was held? or a new ballroom I have never been to?
MY BIGGEST HOPE was they removed the BADGE required on thursday! I like it better to have thursday for anyone to come, and friday a badge requirement!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 06, 2013, 11:39:08 PM
Quote from: Sen on April 03, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
This year it is indeed back in the main convention center in Hall 1 where Artist Alley used to be.

It sounds like you guys had some excellent customer service from the hotel staff (sorry, I'm in retail management, and that kinda stuff has been drilled into me).  Didn't get any offers for assistance myself, though.  I guess I am a big, strapping (not really) lad, and everyone assumed I didn't need any help.  And aside from guys working the valet parking and the two people behind the counter, the only other hotel staff I saw before or after swap meet was the guy blocking the hallway where the Fanime Swap Meet sign was pointing.

And I sure as hell hope they don't increase the price.  $20 a space seems fair enough.  I suppose they could always decrease the size of each space.  Go back to a square, this time 5' x 5'.

Er, wait, no... please don't do that to us.

With the increase in space available in the hall, they can (hopefully?) allow more sellers to participate, thus generating more incoming funding to help offset costs involved with running Fanime, without decreasing spot size or increasing the seller's fee.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 07, 2013, 03:18:18 AM
With the increase in space available in the hall, they can (hopefully?) allow more sellers to participate,

i thought they already did? the space is 4 x 10, I know the amount from last time i think around 2011, the space was more than enough to occupy the sides and inner regions of the spaces O_O!... I don't think they violated any fire codes...

wait, I thought swap meet had some volunteers and staffs to help move things around? HOw many did we lost on support for swap meet?
I remmeber ther was::
three admins (one of them with the cash box, one is the sign up forms, and a checker who holds an ear piece set communicator), 4 volunteers? (people who sit outside to check badges / to redirect trafficking)..and I think 2 helpers?

DID swap meet had enough helpers/volunteers/staff last year?
I'm sorry to ask this question!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 07, 2013, 01:38:22 PM
4' x 10'?  Last year and the year before, it should have been 5' x 10'.  Prior to that, the spaces were 10' x 10'.  But watch, some swap meet overmind is sitting in a hidden lair somewhere, rubbing their chin. "Four by ten you say... interesting."  Great job.

It would be really nice to have an official Swap Meet info page up.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Avairrianna on April 10, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
Lurking thread for updates
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: M on April 10, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
Hi. Please do not speculate about prices or changes. We are looking at releasing more information as soon as we finalize it. Speculation is how rumors begin and I've already had a few people message me if any of the speculation in this thread is fact.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 11, 2013, 02:21:58 AM
We're at the 6 week mark until Fanime..  :-\
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 12, 2013, 02:34:11 AM
Quote from: MPLe on April 10, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
Hi. Please do not speculate about prices or changes. We are looking at releasing more information as soon as we finalize it. Speculation is how rumors begin and I've already had a few people message me if any of the speculation in this thread is fact.

NOT TO WORRY I WENT TO FANIME CON MEETUP ^ ^! and i was lonely ZT_T!...
now I kinda uhm giving up on being a staff and just be a regular person v_v... It took about 6 of my friends to convinced me its not worth it v_v and I should be proud of what i enjoy on the convention!...

eurobeat, I felt like I met you before.. are you the guy who dresess as ryosuke and cosplayed as an initial D character?

Sorry if I ask this but i get mixed up with one guy and the photographer! (short term memory here.. really apologized further! )

Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 12, 2013, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on April 12, 2013, 02:34:11 AMeurobeat, I felt like I met you before.. are you the guy who dresess as ryosuke and cosplayed as an initial D character?

Yes, that's me.  I might bring back the FC3S one more time this Fanime.

Back on-topic, it takes time for me to prepare everything that I'm going to sell for the Swap Meet, and once I confirm that I have a spot, that gives me incentive to get the items ready.  This year, as it gets closer to Fanime, the less incentive I have to do it this year since it's taking so long for pre-reg. to open up.  :P
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Anon on April 12, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
Same boat as eurobeat king here. I live in Sacramento, box up the goods and ship them out to my SJ local friend to hold until the swap meet. tbh the swap meet is all my friends and I really attend fanime for, for the past almost half decade. Not having any information on if the event is set in stone makes me hesitant to even register for the convention itself
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: djmonolith on April 13, 2013, 10:32:55 AM
I live minutes from the SJ Convention center.  I will be attending the con all weekend and was considering doing the swap meet as I have hundreds of anime figures that I can sell/trade.  But the information about the swap meet seems a bit confusing to me.  It also seems like I am not the only one...
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: warbearer on April 13, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Hopefully the swap meet registration does not open up too late.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 14, 2013, 01:47:14 PM
If they open pre-reg. for the Swap Meet before the one-month mark before Fanime, I'll be happy.   ;D

If they open pre-reg. by the two-week mark before Fanime, I'll be frantic but relieved.   :P
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Angelx624 on April 15, 2013, 06:05:03 AM
Is the swap meet gonna be badged or unbadged on Thursday? As in, do we need a badge on Thursday to check it out??

Hope it's ok if I ask this here. ^^;
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 17, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: Angelx624 on April 15, 2013, 06:05:03 AM
Is the swap meet gonna be badged or unbadged on Thursday? As in, do we need a badge on Thursday to check it out??

Hope it's ok if I ask this here. ^^;

again, swap meet wont tell us any information otherwise it will be speculation..
LAST year however. IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY BADGE REQUIRED~!, but thanks to the black out, they removed that idea and never notify anyone about this! Even if you were the seller a badge was required!

I hope this year, they learned their lesson and hoped its a NON badge event for thursday only!

just out of curiosity! I was thinking of selling a video game cartridge format!.. However i found out that the playstation store online is selling it..

Question::  are the cartidge games (example: orcarina of time (n64 cartridge / final fantasy 7 (original label)) worth more or worth less because of the virtual online store?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 17, 2013, 02:07:33 AM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on April 17, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
Question::  are the cartidge games (example: orcarina of time (n64 cartridge / final fantasy 7 (original label)) worth more or worth less because of the virtual online store?

Not sure if this is the most appropriate board for this question, but since we don't have anything else swap meet-related to discuss just yet...

I think it has everything to do with the game and what kind of fan following it has.  Certainly having a bunch of classic, fan fave and even cult hits available in a downloadable format will drive the prices down overall.  A certain portion of the market is looking for the content itself, and they don't care whether they have a physical copy of the game or not.  However, there are still some games where, especially to collectors, it is very valuable to own the original medium it was released on.  Nobody cares if you actually own the DVD for StarCraft II or if you downloaded the game, but I believe people will still be willing to pay more for the actual disks for FFVII than what it currently costs to download on PSN.  And there will be a difference even between the prices of the original release verses the Greatest Hits release, where the older and usually more rare version will fetch a higher price.

Compare other games however, such as the earlier Tekken or Resident Evil games and there isn't the same sense of collectable value in the disk versions.  Somebody out there would most likely want them, but probably not at a price they would have gone for prior to digital re-release.

Having said that, anybody have a copy of Xenosaga III?  Looking for the game complete with case and manual for around $20.  I'll be at swap meet!  I hope.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 17, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
I plan to sell my copies of Borderlands 2 and Dead or Alive 5 both on the Xbox 360.  :)  I might have other video-games but unsure yet.

Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: warbearer on April 17, 2013, 09:42:33 AM
You can sell anything as long as they are not pirated knock-offs.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Angelx624 on April 18, 2013, 03:29:39 AM
Quote from: Hachimitsu-ink on April 17, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: Angelx624 on April 15, 2013, 06:05:03 AM
Is the swap meet gonna be badged or unbadged on Thursday? As in, do we need a badge on Thursday to check it out??

Hope it's ok if I ask this here. ^^;

again, swap meet wont tell us any information otherwise it will be speculation..
LAST year however. IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY BADGE REQUIRED~!, but thanks to the black out, they removed that idea and never notify anyone about this! Even if you were the seller a badge was required!

I hope this year, they learned their lesson and hoped its a NON badge event for thursday only!

just out of curiosity! I was thinking of selling a video game cartridge format!.. However i found out that the playstation store online is selling it..

Question::  are the cartidge games (example: orcarina of time (n64 cartridge / final fantasy 7 (original label)) worth more or worth less because of the virtual online store?
I'm hoping it's non-badged on Thursday, too, which is why I asked. ><;;

Welp, hoping we find out before the con, but if not, guess we'll find out on Day Zero. .-.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 18, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
We're at the 5 week mark until Fanime..  I'm excited  :D and stressing out.  :-\

I liked not needing a badge to SELL stuff last year, so I didn't have to spend the entire day waiting in the pre-reg. line. When the Swap Meet ended on Thursday night, I put my stuff away in my car and rested for a few hours, then waited in-line to get a Friday badge which I needed to sell on Friday night. :)
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: warbearer on April 18, 2013, 09:47:50 AM
I hope they are more organized this year. Last Year some of the registrants were asleep on their job and many of the cosplayers snuck in the cons without registering.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: warbearer on April 18, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: Eurobeat King on April 18, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
We're at the 5 week mark until Fanime..  I'm excited  :D and stressing out.  :-\

I liked not needing a badge to SELL stuff last year, so I didn't have to spend the entire day waiting in the pre-reg. line. When the Swap Meet ended on Thursday night, I put my stuff away in my car and rested for a few hours, then waited in-line to get a Friday badge which I needed to sell on Friday night. :)

Sorry you had to go through that last year :(
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 18, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eurobeat King on April 18, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
We're at the 5 week mark until Fanime..  I'm excited  :D and stressing out.  :-\

May 1st, I am betting myself that may 1st will be the announcement!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on April 19, 2013, 01:21:00 AM
Quote from: warbearer on April 18, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: Eurobeat King on April 18, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
We're at the 5 week mark until Fanime..  I'm excited  :D and stressing out.  :-\

I liked not needing a badge to SELL stuff last year, so I didn't have to spend the entire day waiting in the pre-reg. line. When the Swap Meet ended on Thursday night, I put my stuff away in my car and rested for a few hours, then waited in-line to get a Friday badge which I needed to sell on Friday night. :)

Sorry you had to go through that last year :(

I didn't mind.  While waiting in-line from 4:30am-9:00am was calm & quiet, when pre-reg. opened, it only took me 15 minutes to get my Friday badge.  That was easy, considering that later on the pre-reg. nightmare (continued from Thursday) happened again and people waited hours in-line while the con was already happening.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 22, 2013, 01:10:19 PM
I figure there's a chance that not everyone will see the new thread but might still be checking this one, so be sure to check the Official Swap Meet thread at http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,18266.0.html (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,18266.0.html) for all the details.  This time they're legit.

I also kinda like to keep this thread going to add my comments on the event without cluttering up the official thread.  I do wish that Fanime would make their announcements more noticeable.  I had just by chance checked the main page and found at the very bottom a news post regarding the swap meet FAQ and application form (I now see where I was getting confused regarding what necessitates having a temporary seller's permit, and no, it didn't have to do with how frequently you sell stuff).  It sure would have been nice to know about it earlier, since it was posted on the 19th and I just caught it this morning.  I stay away from Twitter and don't personally use Facebook, so I'm not getting announcements thrown at me.  Still, they've got an actual website where one would expect all information to be posted, and the mods know we've been talking about swap meet here, so I really don't see any reason why they couldn't have made that information easier to find.

Also - and this is no longer speculation - $30 for a 10'x5' space?  Really?  I've accumulated quite a lot of stuff over the year that I'd like to sell, but I'm going to have to seriously consider if continuing to participate in the swap meet is going to be worth it.  I thought reducing the space by half a couple of years ago was bad enough, but now they're asking for 50% more for that smaller space?  Really lame.  I guess those commercials are right, though; everybody really does like getting 50% more cash.  It just really sucks that it has to come from us sellers.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 22, 2013, 04:29:24 PM
Quote from: Ecchi ja Nai on April 22, 2013, 01:10:19 PM
I do wish that Fanime would make their announcements more noticeable.  I stay away from Twitter and don't personally use Facebook, so I'm not getting announcements thrown at me.

If you payed attention about the first introduction, Twitter was announced FIRSTLY to direct Hotel registrations, while the main site Caches from last year.
I dislike twitter, but theres no other choice but to see them as the new "news feed" that announces it ahead of the website!

Now as for the $30 5 x 10?, I wont say it's not a big issue!, but we did demanded for a bigger venue and last year i don't think there was enough space for others to come in.

It's like the Artist alley event, we got a bigger space... yeay, but tht means we need to raise the price!.

I really hope Thursday is a badgeless event because... Fanime doesnt Start until Friday
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: warbearer on April 22, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
I don't have a paypal account to pay for swap meet. Is there another method?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 22, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: warbearer on April 22, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
I don't have a paypal account to pay for swap meet. Is there another method?

YES... by check.. no wait
WESTERN union money order...
...
...western union is alive right?
its that or go to the post office and request a money order from them...
HOw much they cost now O_o!??
wait do they even accept those?

I mean i doubt you could do a fist bump with your phone and pay them via bump O_o!


Mod edit: we do not accept checks or money orders. Please see the FAQ for payment information.
http://www.fanime.com/registration/artist-alley-faq/
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Ecchi ja Nai on April 22, 2013, 08:35:16 PM
Oh man, I must have glossed over that part because I totally missed the Paypal mention.  And I thought I actually read over that post fairly thoroughly.

On the one hand, I guess this would help to speed up the sign-in process a bit, but then how difficult has it been to had over a $20 bill?  Gah!  I mean a twenty AND an additional ten this time.  And what about the folks who don't have a Paypal account?  They're supposed to sign up and assign a credit card or go through the process of adding funds just for this?

What happens if something comes up and a seller can't make it?  Before, if they don't show up, oh well.  They lose their spot and some lucky winner on the waiting list gets a chance to sell.  They weren't there to pay the seller's fee to begin with.  But now if someone can't make it, and they've already registered to sell, they're going to be out thirty bucks?  And that's just if they miss out on one night.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on April 22, 2013, 10:37:13 PM
Quote from: Ecchi ja Nai on April 22, 2013, 08:35:16 PM
Oh man, I must have glossed over that part because I totally missed the Paypal mention.  And I thought I actually read over that post fairly thoroughly.

On the one hand, I guess this would help to speed up the sign-in process a bit, but then how difficult has it been to had over a $20 bill?  Gah!  I mean a twenty AND an additional ten this time.  And what about the folks who don't have a Paypal account?  They're supposed to sign up and assign a credit card or go through the process of adding funds just for this?

What happens if something comes up and a seller can't make it?  Before, if they don't show up, oh well.  They lose their spot and some lucky winner on the waiting list gets a chance to sell.  They weren't there to pay the seller's fee to begin with.  But now if someone can't make it, and they've already registered to sell, they're going to be out thirty bucks?  And that's just if they miss out on one night.

soo basically what your saying is that this is  going to be like artist alley ^ ^!.. just without the permit deal (well if you have a full version that is)...

I kinda think this is a good move.. and yeah it does sound like it speeds up the sign up process.....
wait, there will be some people to help us locate our spots.. right?
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: ewu on April 23, 2013, 09:15:49 AM
Paypal will be the only accepted method of payment. Mailed payments (checks and MOs) take weeks to arrive and process, so that we will only get to the waitlist a month after we approve the initial tables. Paypal payments are instant. Sending cash in the mail is not a good thing to do, because of the risks associated with it.

You do not need a paypal account as paypal will take credit card payments without a paypal account.

Quote from: Ecchi ja Nai on April 22, 2013, 08:35:16 PM
Oh man, I must have glossed over that part because I totally missed the Paypal mention.  And I thought I actually read over that post fairly thoroughly.

On the one hand, I guess this would help to speed up the sign-in process a bit, but then how difficult has it been to had over a $20 bill?  Gah!  I mean a twenty AND an additional ten this time.  And what about the folks who don't have a Paypal account?  They're supposed to sign up and assign a credit card or go through the process of adding funds just for this?

What happens if something comes up and a seller can't make it?  Before, if they don't show up, oh well.  They lose their spot and some lucky winner on the waiting list gets a chance to sell.  They weren't there to pay the seller's fee to begin with.  But now if someone can't make it, and they've already registered to sell, they're going to be out thirty bucks?  And that's just if they miss out on one night.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on May 02, 2013, 09:05:03 AM
3 weeks to go until Fanime is here.   :D

Unfortunately, still no news on when sign-ups will happen.   :P

I've decided to not participate in the Swap Meet for both days, so good luck to everyone doing it this year.   :)

Perhaps next year when everything is more organized like the previous years, I'll do the Swap Meet again.   ;D
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: ewu on May 02, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
We are sorry to see you go! For those still hanging on for news, we are working on it and will post as soon as we can!

Quote from: Eurobeat King on May 02, 2013, 09:05:03 AM
3 weeks to go until Fanime is here.   :D

Unfortunately, still no news on when sign-ups will happen.   :P

I've decided to not participate in the Swap Meet for both days, so good luck to everyone doing it this year.   :)

Perhaps next year when everything is more organized like the previous years, I'll do the Swap Meet again.   ;D
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: clawmaster on May 03, 2013, 05:20:25 PM
so I am going to fanime as part of the press, if I want to sell do I need to say purchase a one day badge for just friday to sell the stuff I have as an attendee and not as press? Also just curious why are several of the events that would be in the main convention center divided up into separate buildings like the Swap meet.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: ewu on May 03, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: clawmaster on May 03, 2013, 05:20:25 PM
so I am going to fanime as part of the press, if I want to sell do I need to say purchase a one day badge for just friday to sell the stuff I have as an attendee and not as press? Also just curious why are several of the events that would be in the main convention center divided up into separate buildings like the Swap meet.

That is correct, you must have a paid membership. Industry and press may not participate in the swap meet.

This year, swap meet will actually be back in the convention center. The various moves are because of the lack of space in the convention center. For swap meet specifically, it was a safety issue also.
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Eurobeat King on May 05, 2013, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: ewu on May 02, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
We are sorry to see you go!

Thanks for your wishes.  It's mainly that since I sold the majority of my stuff last year, I don't have as-much stuff this year that would make it worth spending all that time preparing everything, waiting in-line on Thursday for con pre-registration at the Fairmont, head back to the convention center and get my Swap Meet stuff from my car, waiti n-line to check-in for the Swap Meet, only to have my stuff this year not sell.  (Repeat the Swap Meet process on Friday..)  Not being able to sign-up for the Swap Meet to reserve a spot also killed my incentive to start gathering up any of the items I would've liked to sell this year.  :-\
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Hachimitsu on May 05, 2013, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: Eurobeat King on May 02, 2013, 09:05:03 AM
3 weeks to go until Fanime is here.   :D

Unfortunately, still no news on when sign-ups will happen.   :P

I've decided to not participate in the Swap Meet for both days, so good luck to everyone doing it this year.   :)

Perhaps next year when everything is more organized like the previous years, I'll do the Swap Meet again.   ;D

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

awe.. why T_T!?

Quote from: Eurobeat King on May 05, 2013, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: ewu on May 02, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
We are sorry to see you go!

Thanks for your wishes.  It's mainly that since I sold the majority of my stuff last year, I don't have as-much stuff this year that would make it worth spending all that time preparing everything, waiting in-line on Thursday for con pre-registration at the Fairmont, head back to the convention center and get my Swap Meet stuff from my car, waiti n-line to check-in for the Swap Meet, only to have my stuff this year not sell.  (Repeat the Swap Meet process on Friday..)  Not being able to sign-up for the Swap Meet to reserve a spot also killed my incentive to start gathering up any of the items I would've liked to sell this year.  :-\

okay that made some sense O_O!.. awe v_v!
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Admiral Donuts on May 20, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: ewu on May 03, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
This year, swap meet will actually be back in the convention center. The various moves are because of the lack of space in the convention center. For swap meet specifically, it was a safety issue also.

FYI, the FanimeCon android app says it's in the Fairmont....
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: StillMyWords on May 20, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Jeimizu on May 20, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: ewu on May 03, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
This year, swap meet will actually be back in the convention center. The various moves are because of the lack of space in the convention center. For swap meet specifically, it was a safety issue also.

FYI, the FanimeCon android app says it's in the Fairmont....

Well that is kind of terrible. I'll see if I can get that fixed. In the meantime, SWAP MEET IS IN EXHIBIT HALL 1 FOR FANIMECON 2013
Title: Re: Swap Meet Questions
Post by: Sen on May 20, 2013, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: Jeimizu on May 20, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: ewu on May 03, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
This year, swap meet will actually be back in the convention center. The various moves are because of the lack of space in the convention center. For swap meet specifically, it was a safety issue also.

FYI, the FanimeCon android app says it's in the Fairmont....

Yes we caught this earlier and fixed a few things in the back end. I believe the changes should be propagating through the app as we speak.