Lolita-fied Characters

Started by DivineChaos, June 04, 2008, 04:28:57 PM

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G.I.R

That may be so wrong,                             ... that it's right?

BunofGovt

aaaaaaaaoooouch!  Oh, wait, shouldn't the skirt be red?  ;D ::) ;D
Life is too important to take seriously.  Seriously.

ZukoLKirafan1

I'm going dressed as Lolita Katara! :D http://www.fanplusfriend.com/catalog/1DR00013_14.jpg That's going to be my dress but in a light blue and hopefully I get blue contacts. I'm also gonna wear white tights with white flats and maybe a bow on my hair.

Lelouche, I LOVES YOU!

Kazuko


JiiiWiz

Quote from: ZukoLKirafan1 on July 11, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
I'm going dressed as Lolita Katara! :D http://www.fanplusfriend.com/catalog/1DR00013_14.jpg That's going to be my dress but in a light blue and hopefully I get blue contacts. I'm also gonna wear white tights with white flats and maybe a bow on my hair.

I'll surely take a pic of you :D
"Please don't.."

ZukoLKirafan1

Quote from: (GG)Nami_Misaki on July 12, 2008, 02:38:40 AM
Quote from: ZukoLKirafan1 on July 11, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
I'm going dressed as Lolita Katara! :D http://www.fanplusfriend.com/catalog/1DR00013_14.jpg That's going to be my dress but in a light blue and hopefully I get blue contacts. I'm also gonna wear white tights with white flats and maybe a bow on my hair.

I'll surely take a pic of you :D

Yay, I like pictures. :P XD

Lelouche, I LOVES YOU!

PyronIkari

Quote from: BunofGovt on July 04, 2008, 06:02:23 PM
Not since the Hot Topic Vash jackets have I seen anyone so angry about outfits and cosplay.  Cosplaying is for fans, done by fans, right?  If I want to throw an apron or lace on top of an outfit, that's my choice.  I like that some people are trying to do something different with a cosplay as I also appreciate someone who can be anal down to the last detail about an outfit such as special buttons or it can't be any lace, it's got to be lace with little hearts on it along the edge no more than an inch wide etc etc.  I know some people who are on the edge of snootiness because of the detail in their cosplay.  But some of us can't afford to be detailed but just want to look like a character.
I laughed when I read this. First off, it has nothing to do with cosplay at all. It's more about attention whoring and ATTEMPTING to be original, yet failing. I'm not snooty at all really. I just ask for a few basic things. The character slightly resembles the character in terms of body shape, size, type. The cosplayer KNOWS the character they are cosplaying and in some way enjoys the character. They aren't doing it just for attention. I don't care if it looks perfect, as long as it looks decent enough to wear it resembles it well. If the character is wearing a mandarin collared shirt, wearing a Europeon collared shirt will not fly. If the jacket is beige, and you're wearing a tan jacket... that will not fly either. Atleast ATTEMPT to be accurate.

QuotePlease, please don't shoot down someone just because of what they are wearing (unless it's just outrageously offensive).  A little more tolerance here, people.  Kazuko, I appreciate that you are knowledgeable about Lolita.  Don't belittle someone for lack of knowledge, please, rather educate them.  In a nice way.  Host another panel.  Link us to a website.
I never shoot down someone for lack of knowledge. I shoot down people who claim to be knowledgable, when they clearly aren't. There's a huge difference between someone wanting to learn more, and someone acting like they know all about something. However, it shouldn't be *our* job to educate someone who lacks knowledge. There's plenty of outposts to learn about something. For god's sake they're on the internet, that in itself is an infinite well of resources, though there is a flaw. The internet has as much BAD/FALSE information as it does good. Some people are just too stupid to filter it out correctly and believe everything they read.

I will shoot down people who cosplay stupid things for stupid reasons with no actual reasoning or support as to why they are doing it. They make my fandom look bad, which reflects negatively on a lot of things.

QuoteSorry for griping, I've tried to read most of the posts here so if I've misunderstood some of it, I apologize.

And the apology at the end which is supposed to justify everything... why do you people do this? It's so god damned stupid. You make a rant, bitch, and call out people for things, then apologize at the end assuming that this prevents you from doing anything offensive. It doesn't, it just makes you look like a stupid wuss.

BunofGovt

Quote from: PyronIkari on July 14, 2008, 04:50:53 AM
... I laughed when I read this. First off, it has nothing to do with cosplay at all. It's more about attention whoring and ATTEMPTING to be original, yet failing. I'm not snooty at all really. I just ask for a few basic things. The character slightly resembles the character in terms of body shape, size, type. The cosplayer KNOWS the character they are cosplaying and in some way enjoys the character. They aren't doing it just for attention. I don't care if it looks perfect, as long as it looks decent enough to wear it resembles it well. If the character is wearing a mandarin collared shirt, wearing a Europeon collared shirt will not fly. If the jacket is beige, and you're wearing a tan jacket... that will not fly either. Atleast ATTEMPT to be accurate.

My goodness.  Many fans do NOT resemble the character in terms of body shape, size, type (male? female?), are you going to prohibit them from cosplaying anyway?  Beige vs Tan?  Who's being snooty?  And honestly, if you're cosplaying, you're an 'attention whore'.  If you weren't you'd dress in t-shirts and jeans and stay in the background.

Quote... I never shoot down someone for lack of knowledge. I shoot down people who claim to be knowledgable, when they clearly aren't. There's a huge difference between someone wanting to learn more, and someone acting like they know all about something. However, it shouldn't be *our* job to educate someone who lacks knowledge. There's plenty of outposts to learn about something. For god's sake they're on the internet, that in itself is an infinite well of resources, though there is a flaw. The internet has as much BAD/FALSE information as it does good. Some people are just too stupid to filter it out correctly and believe everything they read.

I will shoot down people who cosplay stupid things for stupid reasons with no actual reasoning or support as to why they are doing it. They make my fandom look bad, which reflects negatively on a lot of things.

Define actual reasoning besides:  'Because I wanted to do it that way.'  And one of the reasons for forums like this is so fans can ask questions and get answers.

Quote... And the apology at the end which is supposed to justify everything... why do you people do this? It's so god damned stupid. You make a rant, bitch, and call out people for things, then apologize at the end assuming that this prevents you from doing anything offensive. It doesn't, it just makes you look like a stupid wuss.

I justify nothing, I post when I want to say something.  I was ranting, yes, just as you are ranting, but I apologized in case I ranted about something that may have been explained in a post that I did not read. If I want to be offensive, well, I've got some good examples here in this thread.
Life is too important to take seriously.  Seriously.

JiiiWiz

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-sighs- I believe that people who want to learn something, they would ask. Like how I asked Ms. Kazuko. It can't hurt learning from something and people like her can actually lead us to something better. :D
"Please don't.."

ZukoLKirafan1

Quote from: Kazuko on July 06, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
lol well I have one image of Leonidus so...

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...Lawl.

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pockystix

At first I thought the thread title said Lolified Characters, which probably isn't a bad ide-- *shot*

Anyway, I'm indifferent to lolita'd cosplays, but you have to admit that Naruto "lolita" has awfully tacky colors, and lolita is a fashion more than a cosplay...

Then again I find it funny that "lolita-fied" cosplay is shot down, while gansta Mario characters were not. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hypebeast style cosplay soon.
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JiiiWiz

Quote from: pockystix on July 20, 2008, 03:10:24 AM
At first I thought the thread title said Lolified Characters, which probably isn't a bad ide-- *shot*

Anyway, I'm indifferent to lolita'd cosplays, but you have to admit that Naruto "lolita" has awfully tacky colors, and lolita is a fashion more than a cosplay...

Then again I find it funny that "lolita-fied" cosplay is shot down, while gansta Mario characters were not. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hypebeast style cosplay soon.


I thought it was a good idea. If a person does it right then hurray.

Well some Naruto Lolitas have super bright tacky colors to it. It somewhat goes along with the character itself. But of course, some Naruto Lolified characters weren't coordinated right, making it a bit off.

LOL, I can't believe the gangster Mario characters were not shot down. It just makes me laugh. XD But I wouldn't mind seeing what people come up with next. Bleach characters Fan Service? XD Eh..
"Please don't.."

PyronIkari

Quote from: pockystix on July 20, 2008, 03:10:24 AM
At first I thought the thread title said Lolified Characters, which probably isn't a bad ide-- *shot*

Anyway, I'm indifferent to lolita'd cosplays, but you have to admit that Naruto "lolita" has awfully tacky colors, and lolita is a fashion more than a cosplay...

Then again I find it funny that "lolita-fied" cosplay is shot down, while gansta Mario characters were not. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hypebeast style cosplay soon.

They weren't? They're all the same. Bad attention whores, are bad attention whores. There's no integrity in anything anymore.

Shi_Musouka

I suppose we can pretty much say the same thing for Pimp Ash. lol.

Kazuko

#54
well i didnt see a picture but lolified characters, sexy no jutsu's, and sexy pokemon are all AutoFAIL (with the exception of some like lolita joker :U man that was hawt)

=\ mainly because like i said most dont do it right, short skirts and cheap lace, Oh OH gaudy colors bleeegh


Lolita Fashion is not sexual its supposed to be princess like, looking like a little doll NOT some cheap hooker type thing I could pull together last minute with a halloween costume and RACE

;__; can we just let the thread die please

strawrose

I am thinking about commissioning lolita-esque ouran. <_< With venise and cluny lace, the right shape shape, cotton fabric and everything. Or would that just be ouran-inspired lolita? XD

*gets smacked by parasols and rocking horse shoes*

Jun-Watarase

Quote from: strawrose on July 25, 2008, 03:41:41 PM
I am thinking about commissioning lolita-esque ouran. <_< With venise and cluny lace, the right shape shape, cotton fabric and everything. Or would that just be ouran-inspired lolita? XD

*gets smacked by parasols and rocking horse shoes*

Well, you're commissioning something so you should abide by whatever your client wants done. My opinion, though, at least don't make lolita-esque versions... of their uniforms. Not only would that be tacky, it just wouldn't make any sense.

But I mean, what can you do, really? If that's what your client wants, you'll have to try to meet their expectations. If they decide to go with something like that, it isn't your responsibility to be worried whether or not they look retarded. The only reason that should be a concern is if you're running a business and having them advertise your work by wearing it, and you don't want to ruin the integrity of it by making them look stupid. The only way I can really see it somewhat working is just making original (and not based off any outfit in canon) lolita outfits suitable for each character, and them making it as distinguishing as possible with their wigs or something.

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Quote from: Jun-Watarase on July 25, 2008, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: strawrose on July 25, 2008, 03:41:41 PM
I am thinking about commissioning lolita-esque ouran. <_< With venise and cluny lace, the right shape shape, cotton fabric and everything. Or would that just be ouran-inspired lolita? XD

*gets smacked by parasols and rocking horse shoes*

Well, you're commissioning something so you should abide by whatever your client wants done. My opinion, though, at least don't make lolita-esque versions... of their uniforms. Not only would that be tacky, it just wouldn't make any sense.

But I mean, what can you do, really? If that's what your client wants, you'll have to try to meet their expectations. If they decide to go with something like that, it isn't your responsibility to be worried whether or not they look retarded. The only reason that should be a concern is if you're running a business and having them advertise your work by wearing it, and you don't want to ruin the integrity of it by making them look stupid. The only way I can really see it somewhat working is just making original (and not based off any outfit in canon) lolita outfits suitable for each character, and them making it as distinguishing as possible with their wigs or something.

It would be a rendition of the female uniforms. I don't wear over-the-top dresses like Angelic Pretty. What i was thinking is that the costume must look like 3000 dollar uniforms that they're portraying. Fine lace that you find in lolita would do just that. What I mean is a Ouran version of this type of onepiece with lace on the bottom, the collar, and the sleeves:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/strawrose/a.jpg

Lolified-costumes don't HAVE to be tacky.

Kazuko

Innocent world is actual brand though, ooh but its cute :d it looks like its hand knit but the print is fooling me

Lolita inspired cosplay dosent have to be tacky but there are people who make it tacky such as adding legwarmers or cat ears, making it poor quality or a smaller skirt and my "favorite" Lace explosion, A cosplay of lolita inspiration needs to have the basic shapes such as a cupcake or bell shape for the skirt, My advice look up lolita handbook and it will help you alot or this http://www.lolitafashion.org/index.php

for lace I suggest cotton lace since rachel is a bit scratchy and the cotton is a nice soft touch (shakes a half fist at metamorphose)

If you are looking for a comission i Strongly suggest In the starlight, Fan Plus friend is kind of aweful at times, a girl I know spent 150 on a dress and it didnt even come close to the stock photo they had on their site

strawrose

Quote from: Kazuko on July 26, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Innocent world is actual brand though, ooh but its cute :d it looks like its hand knit but the print is fooling me

Lolita inspired cosplay dosent have to be tacky but there are people who make it tacky such as adding legwarmers or cat ears, making it poor quality or a smaller skirt and my "favorite" Lace explosion, A cosplay of lolita inspiration needs to have the basic shapes such as a cupcake or bell shape for the skirt, My advice look up lolita handbook and it will help you alot or this http://www.lolitafashion.org/index.php

for lace I suggest cotton lace since rachel is a bit scratchy and the cotton is a nice soft touch (shakes a half fist at metamorphose)

If you are looking for a comission i Strongly suggest In the starlight, Fan Plus friend is kind of aweful at times, a girl I know spent 150 on a dress and it didnt even come close to the stock photo they had on their site

Hrm... it's probably eyelet?

Thanks for your help. ^_^ Actually, I am a fellow lolita who wears the fashion about three times a month. lol. I thought a lolita-inspired Ouran uniform would be perfect. I can't wait for In the Starlight to open again. ^_^ Do you think they'll still take commissions?