What Anime Would You Want Brought to the States?

[Jun-Watarase]

The reason he is wall of texting you is because you're showing signs of ignorance. I really don't need to add anything else other than do your research and actually pay attention when you watch anime before you think such-and-such series should be brought over.

Having Lucky Star brought over is a joke, it's all japanese culture/japanese memes that not many americans will get, heck I didn't even get 1/2 of the stuff they were talking about, while there's people running around thinking they know what each of them are.

Again, thanks for pointing these things out, but again, the topic is "What Anime Would You Want Brought to the States?"
I mean, do I really have to reiterate this? This forum is like a wish list of what I personally would like to see come here. Whether you agree or not, it doesn't really matter, and that's why I think it's funny and gave all of them smiley's, cos it seems like they want to bring in drama for something so simple as a comment that I made about how I'd like to see Kodomo no Jikan, Moetan and Detroit Metal City come to the states. If I'm showing signs of ignorance, it's because, well, look at the argument that was started. Seriously, it's an argument about what I'd like to see here and apparently how stupid, n00b and un-l33t I am for even mentioning these. Will what I want even come here? I doubt it. Is it wrong for me to want it here? No. Why are we even arguing this? Because Pyrex doesn't agree with me? Really, I don't even know who that guy is, nor do I care. I don't know who Jun or even you are. All I know is that, I voiced my opinion, and like a communist government, I was shot down.
And for that... you too get some smileys!
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Er, well.... for one thing, no one was trying to govern your opinion. I replied with my opinion, which I am also entitled to. It's the way YOU reacted to it, if anything, and the stupidity YOU chose to show that started any "drama". If you're acting stupid, you can't exactly blame others for pointing it out.

P.S. And do you not see the irony? You blame other people for trolling you, but if anything, you b*tching and whining about how people don't agree with you (which wasn't supposed to be a big deal in the first place, if anything) and throwing smileys at people you don't like to somehow reassure yourself that you're "above" opinions, and what's awesome is that you even chose to troll a mod.

I mean, come on. You're entitled to your opinion, but so are others. Make a stupid statement or suggestion? That's your choice. Someone else pointing it out and why? That's their choice too. World doesn't revolve around you.

The world doesn't revolve around me, I know that. And, as far as replying back, that too is free game. I reacted because it seemed like I was being attacked, in my opinion, for my views. Then I have some guy name Pyrex, or whatever, send some ridiculous wall. I mean, if you guys are used to having people take your fire backs, ok, but I'm not that person. If you want to argue still and drag out the drama, go ahead. I didn't ignore any of you because I just don't. Drama is drama, and a stupid reply to an honest answer is going to get a stupid argument. Complaining about it? Why shouldn't I? It sure beats getting beaten up on.
And as far as smileys? Well... they are just fun, and showing you that this is silly... So here you go!
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Well, initially, there wasn't really anything malicious about replying to your post. The only thing I didn't agree with in response to you was the random stating of ":U well jp dvds are by region so unless you can modify the settings on your media player or have a dvd player that plays any region well good luck" (sorry Kazuko) in response to your comment about sticking to Japanese DVDs. I replied with my opinion of what I thought about your suggestion, and I gave you reasons why I felt that I didn't agree. That, alone, really isn't a big deal. However, the way you reacted to the situation was immature and irritating. That includes the annoying string of smiley faces.

Other people responded to your reaction. You got defensive and even tried to preach me as if I was uninformed. Others responded to your defensiveness in their right. Point is, despite whatever it is that you may want, there are opinions that point out the fact that some series don't work if they were brought over to the states, which is completely logical.

You can easily say something like "We should have onsen in the states" and others have the right to tell you why it wouldn't work and how your suggestion wasn't exactly well thought-out. Very simple, in fact.

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[Stormfalcon]

It's simple, folks.  The ignore list is there for a reason.  Use it before someone sucks you into another useless browbeating.

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[Mizuki]

Oh man, Kodomo no Jikan. Didn't you hear about it's attempt to be brought to the states and FAIL? Do you know how not "american" it is? DO YOU NOT THINK OF HOW THE SERIES WOULD TURN OUT POST TRANSLATION?

Okay, let's do this. How about having lets say Futurama. There's a lot of jokes and whatnot in the show about american culture that people wouldn't get. Think about it.

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[lyricaldanichan]

You can say the same about The Simpsons since there is a lot of American culture in-jokes with that as well. Worse with King of the Hill, but I think we can agree that middle-class/lower middle class people in all cultures can relate to situations in those shows.

Okay, let's do this. How about having lets say Futurama. There's a lot of jokes and whatnot in the show about american culture that people wouldn't get. Think about it.

[Mizuki]

You can say the same about The Simpsons since there is a lot of American culture in-jokes with that as well. Worse with King of the Hill, but I think we can agree that middle-class/lower middle class people in all cultures can relate to situations in those shows.

Okay, let's do this. How about having lets say Futurama. There's a lot of jokes and whatnot in the show about american culture that people wouldn't get. Think about it.

Totally 100% true. I'm just a little bit more familiar with Futurama.

[lyricaldanichan]

Futurama I think can translate to other cultures, most likley it would get tweeked. But from what I understood about US shows imported to other countries that they love watching American situations even if some of it doesn't make sense. I think it is the same with shows from other countries that get imported here. Who would of thought that people would get into a show like Urusei Yatsura (as a example) here in the US?

You can say the same about The Simpsons since there is a lot of American culture in-jokes with that as well. Worse with King of the Hill, but I think we can agree that middle-class/lower middle class people in all cultures can relate to situations in those shows.

Okay, let's do this. How about having lets say Futurama. There's a lot of jokes and whatnot in the show about american culture that people wouldn't get. Think about it.

Totally 100% true. I'm just a little bit more familiar with Futurama.

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[PyronIkari]

YAY, THE TOPIC IS NOW ABOUT LOCALIZATION.

The Simpsons as a whole has many cultural references, but it is not the base of what The Simpsons is about. Futurama, same story. Both of them can be localized, as the references do not make up a large mass of what happens in episodes.

What you are looking for though, is Family Guy. A show that can never be localized anywhere outside of the United States. The entire show is reference after reference after reference to US pop culture from the 70/80/90/00's.

It's funny that you mention Genshiken. Because this is an example of something that is bastardized, and completely misunderstood, but the misunderstanding is now taken as the norm. Seriously, do you really get the point of Genshiken? I mean... really get it? The series makes fun of its own kind for legitimate reasons. It revolves around displaying how, 'yes it's true, otaku are still people with lives and thoughts... BUT THEY ARE STILL PATHETIC LOSERS'. It's about coming to terms with what people are, and accepting them for really what they are. Everyone in Genshiken has  a chance to change to see the other perspective, and Saki is the only one that grows and learns from the cultural difference. The rest cower back to being losers, because in the end, that's what they are. Minus Kosaka, who's such an extreme that he was pretty much only used as a gateway to introduce Saki into the group.

That's now how it's accepted in the US. US people are like "THEY'RE NERDS LIKE ME!!! THIS IS SO COOL!" and that's it... completely missing the point. They used Genshiken as a reason to be more nerdy and to promote their nerdiness.

Urusei Yatsura isn't too culturally based despite what people think, but the thing is, it never caught on. Most people know "OF" Urusei Yatsura, but most people have never really watched the series. Maybe a few eps here and there.

And then Syko lists a bunch of crap that has nothing to do about this conversation. Just listing a bunch of stuff that was localized as if it means a damned thing and missing the point of "what can/should be localized vs. things that shouldn't/can't be localized".

Yes, frankly syko, I AM attacking your opinion, because your opinion is stupid. What is the point in bringing over a show to the states that won't work in the states. It does more bad than good.

I would NOT want KoJika to be localized. If it some how did, do you realize the backlash it would get? Chances are people would fight to get it banned from bookstores, which opens up pandora's box to get ALL JP comics banned from bookstores... and bring us back to the early 90's...

...because "That stuff is just cartoon porn".

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[sysadmin]

I don't know who Jun or even you are. All I know is that, I voiced my opinion, and like a communist government, I was shot down.
And for that... you too get some smileys!
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Hi.  I'm the sysadmin.  I ban people when they act like a total douche.  Please enjoy your 36-hour break from the forums.

To contribute, as for anime I want brought to the states, clearly, the answer is School Days.
Or Popotan.

[Stormfalcon]

Popotan was brought over to the states.  Unfortunately, it was brought over by Geneon, which has since pulled out of publishing & distribution.  Funimation is in a deal with Geneon for publishing & distribution, but Popotan hasn't shown up on their list of Geneon rereleases yet.

[Jun-Watarase]

Now y'alls just trippin'.

Well, then again, I suppose more people know about Popotan due to the Caramel Dansen. But there is no equivalent to Momomomomoi's voice~ Who ever to play Mii will just sound irritating, unfortnately. A lot of voices in Jappo animation, espeeeeecially Akiba-kei, end up to sound very irritating and disturbing when done in English. Stoic voices don't do so well, either... Good example of both, the Haruhi dub with both Mikuru and Yuki. I admit that Haruhi, herself, sounded decent enough though.

School Days, though. That's just crazy. There are a lot of themes within School Days, if not all of them, that are incompatible with the average US audience except with the fact that it's dark, emotional, "psychologically stimulating" (it's not supposed to be), and violent. But again, the reasons for as to why its emotional-- most people who will watch it will not be able to understand the feelings of most characters. They won't understand Sekai's position without just thinking that she's a b*tch, they won't understand Kotonoha's patience with Otome's bullying (which in itself, is culturally different) without concluding that she's just spineless, why a lot of the confrontation between characters is actually a big deal (confrontation is treated differently, here, as it's more open), and why the hell no one tried to intervene will just baffle the audience. Most fans in America don't understand the mentality of many Japanese people when it comes to conflicts, how most of them cowardly stay clear of trouble and try not to get involved, how they avoid confrontation because it's such a big deal, they'll just be dooming themselves, how bullies have a weaker sense of morale and attack pretty much every aspect to make someone miserable, and how gossip has the power to destroy a person for years if not their entire life. When you hear in the news of a stabbing, a lot of the criminals respond to the media with things like "I wanted to see what it was like" or "I felt that my reasons were more important than this person's life" or "I'm sick of people" being common phrases amongst similar crimes. School Days is probably one of the most realistic animations I've seen up until now. The game is even worse without the explicit chunks censored out like in the animation, which only made the story even more sadistic.

But despite that, it'd still prove to be entertaining, I'm sure. But those sort of things won't be considered-- it'd be more or less, "Man, this shit is f*cked up. Why the hell doesn't anyone do anything about this sh*t, mang. If they did then there'd be no bullsh*t. Girls are crazy." or "Wow... this is deep. I understand their pain, as mine is a deep void of darkness spiraling into a deep oblivion of which I cannot return from, thus I must cut myself to feel their pain because it is so deep". Of course, violence is entertaining in any language.

[Nanashi]

I don't know who Jun or even you are. All I know is that, I voiced my opinion, and like a communist government, I was shot down.
And for that... you too get some smileys!
:D :D :D

(User was exiled to byo/b/ for this post)

Hi.  I'm the sysadmin.  I ban people when they act like a total douche.  Please enjoy your 36-hour break from the forums.

To contribute, as for anime I want brought to the states, clearly, the answer is School Days.
Or Popotan.

Uh...Popotan is already here...

[Jun-Watarase]

I don't know who Jun or even you are. All I know is that, I voiced my opinion, and like a communist government, I was shot down.
And for that... you too get some smileys!
:D :D :D

(User was exiled to byo/b/ for this post)

Hi.  I'm the sysadmin.  I ban people when they act like a total douche.  Please enjoy your 36-hour break from the forums.

To contribute, as for anime I want brought to the states, clearly, the answer is School Days.
Or Popotan.

Uh...Popotan is already here...

Oh yeah, huh. But you know, any series with Poyoyon Rock's style is going to be ear-bleeding to watch in English. w

Example: Komugi.

[Barnes]

I've been scared to say this for a while, but to hell with it:

Anejiru (it's a hentai)  XD

Ok then.

[Kaura117]

Eve no Jikan does have an international release planned, but that doesn't mean I can't be impatient. Want. Do want. Want moar episodes already.

[Meirin]

Mahoraba, foo'. Mahoraba.