Rules for this forum. UPDATED as of 5/12/2010. PLEASE READ BEFORE MAKING TOPIC!

Started by Mizuki, February 10, 2009, 10:40:17 PM

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Hi, welcome to the Trading Outlet!

This is where you can buy, sell, and trade your collection of whatever.

Please put WTT (Want to Trade)/WTS (Want to Sell)/WTB (Want to buy) in topic. Makes it easier for people to look around and see what thread is what.

Posting prices are necessary. We don't want this to turn into Ebay.

After all items are sold, please close your thread.

Only material objects can be sold here. I really don't want to see a bunch of "WTS my level 99 shaman on WoW"

Also these are some guidelines I got from another forum I frequent.

"1. always send merchandise with a confirmation number (.60 cents).

2. If you don't have packing supplies, use newspaper for shipping supplies instead of peanuts and bubble sheets.

3. Try to avoid sending cash and using western union.

4. Keep track of what you bought. Save the PMs from people you buy and sell until the transaction is complete.

5. Read people's feedback threads. It's very important to know the sellers history on selling items if you can, it could prevent a scam waiting to happen."

*Please try to get all your info up before posting a for sale topic. You can always update later.

*Images of your items help a lot. That is at your discretion.


Mail Fraud F.A.Q.

:: How To File For Mail Fraud ::

Are you a victim of online fraud, or think you are a potential victim due to a single person or a company? Well, you have come to the right place to see what you can do to get your item/money back from the thieves.

:: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) ::

1. I think I have been ripped off. What should I do?
Go to any of the mail fraud sites listed below to file a complaint. I suggest filing for as many as you can.
2. When should I file for mail fraud?
If you have sent out numerous e-mails regarding your payment being received and/or item being sent and never received the item/e-mail within a 15-20 days from the date you shipped the item/payment, send out ONE LAST e-mail informing them that you will take action if they do not respond to your e-mails. If after 2-3 days of no response, start to file for mail fraud. The faster you file the mail fraud, the faster you will get what is owed to you.
3. The other party responds to my e-mails, but keeps giving me excuses and/or the run around. What should I do?
It's more than likely they just trying to buy more time. If they reply to your e-mails but keeps telling you that it will be shipped soon, over and over, notify them that you will be filing for mail fraud. File for mail fraud as soon as possible. Especially with PayPal and their 30-day policy (see FAQ #6). If you keep on letting them buy more time, they'll just keep giving you that same answer over and over until either the PayPal 30-day complaint is over, or if you forget about it and give up trying to get the item.
4. What do I need when I file a complaint?
Most of the time it's a win-win situation if you have most, if not all of the following..
You will need the following contact information of the other party:

Phone Number (if available)
You will need any of the following proof and/or evidence: (the more the better)

Email and/or Instant Message conversations
Proof of shipment of item
Proof of payment (Credit Card Bill, Check Statements, PayPal, Receipts, etc.)
5. I paid for something online with a credit card, money order, check or cash and I never received the item. What should I do?
If you paid with credit card, notify the credit card company, and inform them of the situation. Tell them you want to dispute the charge, and they will investigate.
If you paid with a money order, you can go back to the place you bought the money order from or call the number that is on the receipt stub from the money order and have them do a 'stop payment'. What 'stop payment' does is, it prevents the person from cashing it in. But if the money order has been cashed already, there is nothing that can be done, unless you file for mail fraud. Also, the receipt stub that was on the money order can also be used as proof of payment, as well as proof of them cashing it when they track the money order.
If you paid with a check, its similiar to a money order. You can do a 'stop payment'. If the check has been cashed, there is nothing that can be done, unless you file for mail fraud. If the check has been cashed, you can ask your bank for a bank statement concerning the check. This will be used as proof that the person cashed your check.
If you paid in cash, this will be harder as there is no proof/receipt that you sent it. So, send at your own risk.
6. I ordered something online using PayPal. What should I do?
PayPal's policy is that, you have 30-days to file a complaint. If after 30-days, you are out of luck. If you have not received a response and/or item within 20-days, file a complaint with PayPal. If by any chance, you do receive the item, you can cancel the complaint with PayPal. If the other party is at fault, PayPal will recover whatever money is owed to you, IF the money is in the other party's account. If there is no money in the account, there is nothing that can be done unless you used your credit card on PayPal to pay for the item (see FAQ #5).
7. Does there have to be a certain value before I can file for mail fraud?
No. It's not the cost and/or value of the item, inorder for you to file for mail fraud. It's the principle. You can file for mail fraud whether your lost or the item costs, $5.00, $100.00, or even $1,000.00. Mail fraud is a crime and a federal offense. Legal action can be taken against the the other party if they are found guilty if they do not return what is owed to the respectful ower.
8. When is it a good time to send out an item once I have received payment from buyer via PayPal?
There have been instances where a seller has sold an item (most of the time expensive items) to a buyer, whether it be a hard to find game, cellphone, systems, electronics, etc., and a couple days later, the payment was reversed. Most of the time, the payment is reversed due to stolen credit cards, stolen bank account information or just plain scam.

Most sellers ship the item the next day after receiving the payment. Its good to be quick on shipping, but its also bad. If the payment was a scam/reversed, it takes PayPal 1-day to find out, email you and reverse the payment (2 days max..but rarely). Once payment is reversed, PayPal will do an investigation to see if it indeed was a fraudulent payment. If you're lucky to read the email before it is sent out, than you've saved yourself from losing an item. If not, and the package is already on the way to the scammer, go back to the place where you shipped the package and request it back do to an investigation and fraudulent payment.
Best suggestion is to:

Ship item 2-3 business days after you have received the payment. This will give you enough time to see if there is problems with the payment.
Overseas countries are places to watch out for. Those are where most scammers are located and are hard to get back your item once its shipped. Some countries are:
Send package with Delivery Confirmation. This will show the tracking of the package, proof of shipment and proof of arrival to buyer. This is a major factor when it comes to providing proof of shipment.
9. I have a question but its not mentioned above. Can you help me?
Sure. Just post your question and I will gladly try to help you answer any of your questions you might have.
:: Domestic ::

Contact your nearest local law enforcement agency such as Police Department or Sheriffs Department and inform them of the situation. Some local law enforcements do have Fraud Departments to help you with your cases.

Contact your nearest local law enforcement agency such as Police Department or Sheriffs Department and inform them of the situation. Some local law enforcements do have Fraud Departments to help you with your cases.

International Fraud -- Complaint Form
International Web Police
Canadian Consumer Information Complaint Form
P.O. Box 686
North Bay, Ontario
P1B 8J8

Toll Free Phone: (888) 495-8501
Toll Free Fax: (888) 654-9426
Email: [email protected]

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Ottawa, Ontario
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Phone: (613) 789-5151
Fax: (613) 789-7044
Email: [email protected]

:: Miscellaneous ::

SquareTrade -- File a dispute. SquareTrade will be the mediator.
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PayPal Email Help Form
PayPal Service Center:
PayPal Customer Service Agents are available to help you during the following times:

7:00 AM EST to 1:00 AM EST Monday through Friday
9:00 AM EST to 11:00 PM EST on Saturday and Sunday
Call us toll-free at: 1-888-221-1161

We may only discuss an account with the account-holder. Please have the following information available when you call:
Your telephone number
Your email address
The last 4 digits of your credit card or bank account registered with PayPal
For security reasons, we must verify the above details before discussing any account-specific information.


Also, any form of scamming (either buyer or seller) will warrant a permanent ban from these forums.

Further action after that is also possible.

Come on, this is a new forum.  Let the honest people have a chance first.


This is a new update concerning what is and isn't acceptable to be in this sub-forum:

Firstly, no counter-fit/bootleg items of any kind is allowed. This include such things as anime DVDs, figures, posters, CDs, so on and so forth ( but not limited to these things). Please make sure what you own and plan to sell is legitimate before you have it up. To buyers, please confirm what you plan to buy is something legit as well. You are just as responsible as the person who is selling it so make sure you are buying what you expect. The excuse of " I didn't know it was a bootleg" won't fly here with either party. You take a chance with the words and pictures of that person. It's your responsibility, not ours, so please be able to accept and deal with your decision to buy. With this said, we also encourage regulars who are knowledgeable about counter-fit items to speak up if they do recognize something that is unacceptable.

Secondly, this sub-forum isn't a place for businesses to advertise their products. We aren't running a mini-Amazon. It's a place for fans to trade, sell and hope to gain something new. It's supposed to be a fun, exciting, and interactive with an opportunity to recognize common interests between people. If your business has something to sell, please go through with booking a booth in the dealer's room for Fanimecon. Your topic will be deleted accordingly if you decide to break this rule. Thank you for your understanding.

Finally, please follow the previous instructions our moderators have set forth on how to appropriately structure your topic title. If your title is in a different format than EVERYONE ELSE'S, chances are you were too lazy to read about how to set it up correctly. If you somehow decide to not care about reading those few sentences of instructions, we will simply delete your topic.

Thank you for following these rules accordingly.  

EDIT: In addition, please do not offer any form of service for $$ so please do not take advantage of the title " Willing to Sell" as a way to " willing to sell <blank> service". You can make those kind of posts in the Everything Else forum if the moderator who governs it allows it.
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