Lonely Thread

Started by SukebeStudios, March 02, 2009, 01:05:40 AM

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Have you felt lonely?

Yeah...all the time.
Yeah, I know the feeling.
Sometimes.
I'm sorry you feel lonely.
Not really.
Dude, YOU SUCK for being lonely, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

SukebeStudios

Hey, is anyone lonely? I sure as hell am. Seems like everyone that I IM, chooses to not respond. One person, 2, even 3 I could understand. But...everyone? Sigh.  I tried to start gatherings, and nobody shows up. The only responses I get are people who JUST HAVE TO put in their 2 cents about why my gatherings don't work. DOES NOT HELP IN THE LEAST!!



This is the "Lonely Thread."

JTchinoy

Lonely thread is lonely.

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PyronIkari

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:05:40 AM
Hey, is anyone lonely? I sure as hell am. Seems like everyone that I IM, chooses to not respond. One person, 2, even 3 I could understand. But...everyone? Sigh.  I tried to start gatherings, and nobody shows up. The only responses I get are people who JUST HAVE TO put in their 2 cents about why my gatherings don't work. DOES NOT HELP IN THE LEAST!!



This is the "Lonely Thread."

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SukebeStudios

Just FYI...your Sig is just plain flaming.  Gay that is.

PyronIkari

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:18:40 AM
Just FYI...your Sig is just plain flaming.  Gay that is.

Okay ^^. Was that a poor sad attempt at an insult or something? OHNOS... a sig that I didn't put up there was called homosexual!

I FEEL SO HORRIBLE NOW... I MUST DO SOMETHING TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER!

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:::reads the first post again:::


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Mission complete.

Mizuki

Why do people feel it necessary to publicize their loneliness.

Go out, socialize, find people who honestly care. Have you ever thought there's a reason people may not be responding to you or not going to your gatherings?

Think people before you post, and it makes life much more easier for everyone.

SukebeStudios

Well, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread? Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.

PyronIkari

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Well, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread? Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.

wwwwwwwwwww...

Well he's a moderator, so he sorta... has to. It's not that we don't care... no one said he doesn't care, nor did I. You didn't even attempt to read what he said, because you might learn something from it.

PS... this is why no one responds to you. This is why no one goes to your gatherings. You're a creepy loser, that acts all high and mighty when people try to tell you that, it might be the way YOU are that causes people not to like you.

You made a thread whining about how no one likes you... what was your intention in doing this? Did you expect people to tell you how you're wrong, and that you're cool, and that they want to be friends? People don't like whiny people. People don't like people that use manipulation as a way to get closer to people.

Mizuki

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Well, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread?

Possibly because this is a public forum, I do not see anywhere in the rules of this forum that restricts me from posting my ideas. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.

I think you very well know who I am talking to, plus there has been multiple occurrences where these type of posts have been made. If you actually read my post I gave you advice (it honestly worked for me, seriously) and then you attack me, where in my post did I warrant this type of response?

SukebeStudios

I wish I could just have a thread that opens dialogue. Nope. Just opens up for insults.

As far as for reasons for why people don't come to the gatherings, I honestly don't know. I put it up far enough in advance, and nobody knew me enough to make a positive or negative judgement. I mean, that's just my honest thought, I'm not being whiny on that one.

The thread deviated from the main point I was trying to put out there.

What I guess I meant to ask was does anyone ELSE feel lonely? Have they done things like I have and had the same result?

QuoteWell, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread? Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.
I honestly don't see an "insult" in there. But if you did, oh well. If you're reffering to the "people" line, sorry. That's part of a pet peeve of mine where at work, i'm often called, "hey you" or something similar, like I don't have a name or job title. My bad

Jun-Watarase

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:57:33 AM
I wish I could just have a thread that opens dialogue. Nope. Just opens up for insults.

I won't go too far into this but... with the way you've expressed yourself, so far, can you really expect otherwise? Everyone feels lonely from time to time, some moreso than others, and some very much so. Loneliness to a great extent can be a horrible feeling, but you should be able to feel opportunities to change that and find other people to enjoy the company of. Even those who do have a lot of friends, people to be with, and are very social may still feel lonely-- it requires time and effort to find people you're really compatible with that help rid of loneliness.

Though, people do respond positively toward personalities they like... If people do not respond positively, have you ever questioned yourself as to why? Because even with the unkind void of positivity in this thread, if anything, your show of personality may possibly be pushing even more people away-- not even now, but possibly in the past as well.

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SukebeStudios

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:07:04 AM

I won't go too far into this but... with the way you've expressed yourself, so far, can you really expect otherwise? Everyone feels lonely from time to time, some moreso than others, and some very much so. Loneliness to a great extent can be a horrible feeling, but you should be able to feel opportunities to change that and find other people to enjoy the company of. Even those who do have a lot of friends, people to be with, and are very social may still feel lonely-- it requires time and effort to find people you're really compatible with that help rid of loneliness.

Though, people do respond positively toward personalities they like... If people do not respond positively, have you ever questioned yourself as to why? Because even with the unkind void of positivity in this thread, if anything, your show of personality may possibly be pushing even more people away-- not even now, but possibly in the past as well.

Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.

PyronIkari

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:22:53 AM

Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.

This line of thinking is so stupid that it annoys me when people say crap like "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, YOU DON'T KNOW ME?!?!?"

Because for one, I don't need to "know you". What you say says things about you. Unless the post was completely random and unlike anything you do (i.e. a sarcastic joke) than it says a lot about who you are.

I don't NEED to know someone, to know that part of their personality is or isn't a certain way. Sadly, this post isn't the only evidence of your personality that I know of.

Here you go, blaming other people again. There's a reason why they laugh... there's a reason why they avoid you. It's not just because you said hello, but rather how... and when. What you said right after that, or how you acted doing so. People don't just "do things" for no reason like that.

Hint: It's because of you.

SukebeStudios

Quote from: PyronIkari on March 02, 2009, 02:29:28 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:22:53 AM

Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.

This line of thinking is so stupid that it annoys me when people say crap like "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, YOU DON'T KNOW ME?!?!?"

Because for one, I don't need to "know you". What you say says things about you. Unless the post was completely random and unlike anything you do (i.e. a sarcastic joke) than it says a lot about who you are.

I don't NEED to know someone, to know that part of their personality is or isn't a certain way. Sadly, this post isn't the only evidence of your personality that I know of.

Here you go, blaming other people again. There's a reason why they laugh... there's a reason why they avoid you. It's not just because you said hello, but rather how... and when. What you said right after that, or how you acted doing so. People don't just "do things" for no reason like that.

Hint: It's because of you.

Sigh. I'm trying not to be hateful or sink to your level of dislike. If you REALLY have a problem with this thread...why are you wasting your time with it? I'm trying to open CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue. The purpose of this thread is to find out if there are OTHER PEOPLE that have felt like this at one time or another.

Jun-Watarase

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:22:53 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:07:04 AM

I won't go too far into this but... with the way you've expressed yourself, so far, can you really expect otherwise? Everyone feels lonely from time to time, some moreso than others, and some very much so. Loneliness to a great extent can be a horrible feeling, but you should be able to feel opportunities to change that and find other people to enjoy the company of. Even those who do have a lot of friends, people to be with, and are very social may still feel lonely-- it requires time and effort to find people you're really compatible with that help rid of loneliness.

Though, people do respond positively toward personalities they like... If people do not respond positively, have you ever questioned yourself as to why? Because even with the unkind void of positivity in this thread, if anything, your show of personality may possibly be pushing even more people away-- not even now, but possibly in the past as well.

Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.

I don't mean to discourage you, but a lot of people that I've met that have experienced similar things tend to be simply socially awkward, and it's difficult for them to change it. The only thing you can really do is try, learn from your environment and the actions of other people, how to read people's expressions and feelings, and pick up social tact and awareness. If you keep trying, at the very least, you can use your experiences to gain something from them-- learning about what you may be doing right or wrong, and the type of person you want to be.

Even whilst still having difficultly, everyone is able to have a chance at finding others that accept them and like them for who they are, (in most cases) no matter how bad or flawed they may be. With being tactful, you should be aware that... everything you say and do, is an expression of yourself. It doesn't matter if it's a direct one, or not "in-depth" enough for people to really "know" you before they judge you-- because the thing is, it isn't illogical to judge others by what they see and hear, even if it may not be entirely truthful. And even simple "hello"s based on the circumstances, may not even be tactful... like wrong timing, or an awkward attitude.

The truth is, though, to be completely socially accepted, it is not acceptable to most to be completely yourself. You should still "be yourself", but at the same time, there are ways a person is pushed to act, like not expressing every bit of their opinions of others, minding their manners, being tactful in general-- it may be partially dishonest, but honesty isn't always what is liked. Tact is knowing what and what not to say, what to express and what to keep to yourself, how to be a good person, and knowing when to be honest, and when not to be. Even the most outspoken people may need to reserve themselves once in a while. You don't have to become someone other than yourself to get people to like you. You just need to improve who you are. These are things people learn by personal experiences by interacting with others and their environment.

And that's all you can do, really-- work with the circumstances you are given.

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PyronIkari

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:37:39 AM

Sigh. I'm trying not to be hateful or sink to your level of dislike. If you REALLY have a problem with this thread...why are you wasting your time with it? I'm trying to open CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue. The purpose of this thread is to find out if there are OTHER PEOPLE that have felt like this at one time or another.

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It makes me wonder why I bother.

Why am I wasting my time with it? ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT you'll actually listen and learn something. Silly me though. Who am I to think someone like you would listen to advice and learn something.

SukebeStudios

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:38:56 AM

I don't mean to discourage you, but a lot of people that I've met that have experienced similar things tend to be simply socially awkward, and it's difficult for them to change it. The only thing you can really do is try, learn from your environment and the actions of other people, how to read people's expressions and feelings, and pick up social tact and awareness. If you keep trying, at the very least, you can use your experiences to gain something from them-- learning about what you may be doing right or wrong, and the type of person you want to be.

Even whilst still having difficultly, everyone is able to have a chance at finding others that accept them and like them for who they are, (in most cases) no matter how bad or flawed they may be. With being tactful, you should be aware that... everything you say and do, is an expression of yourself. It doesn't matter if it's a direct one, or not "in-depth" enough for people to really "know" you before they judge you-- because the thing is, it isn't illogical to judge others by what they see and hear, even if it may not be entirely truthful. And even simple "hello"s based on the circumstances, may not even be tactful... like wrong timing, or an awkward attitude.

The truth is, though, to be completely socially accepted, it is not acceptable to most to be completely yourself. You should still "be yourself", but at the same time, there are ways a person is pushed to act, like not expressing every bit of their opinions of others, minding their manners, being tactful in general-- it may be partially dishonest, but honesty isn't always what is liked. Tact is knowing what and what not to say, what to express and what to keep to yourself, how to be a good person, and knowing when to be honest, and when not to be. Even the most outspoken people may need to reserve themselves once in a while. You don't have to become someone other than yourself to get people to like you. You just need to improve who you are. These are things people learn by personal experiences by interacting with others and their environment.

And that's all you can do, really-- work with the circumstances you are given.

See, there's a constructive post. Thank you

I think you're hitting the nail right on the head. I will admit, yes, I'm socially awkward. That's probably one of if not the MAIN reason. It makes sense in public, in the real world, why it is difficult for me to make new friends. But in the online world...I'm afraid I still don't understand how saying "Hello" is a bad thing. Now I'm only using the "Hello" phrase as an example.
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 02, 2009, 02:43:02 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:37:39 AM

Sigh. I'm trying not to be hateful or sink to your level of dislike. If you REALLY have a problem with this thread...why are you wasting your time with it? I'm trying to open CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue. The purpose of this thread is to find out if there are OTHER PEOPLE that have felt like this at one time or another.

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.

It makes me wonder why I bother.

Why am I wasting my time with it? ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT you'll actually listen and learn something. Silly me though. Who am I to think someone like you would listen to advice and learn something.

"It's not us, YOU suck." Doesn't seem the best way to teach someone anything. I know you don't have to be nice or anything, but some people just tune you out when you start off attacking them like that.

PyronIkari

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:51:03 AM

"It's not us, YOU suck." Doesn't seem the best way to teach someone anything. I know you don't have to be nice or anything, but some people just tune you out when you start off attacking them like that.

Yes, we call these people "stupid". Some of the best advice/lessons comes in forms people don't like.

SukebeStudios

Quote from: PyronIkari on March 02, 2009, 02:58:42 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:51:03 AM

"It's not us, YOU suck." Doesn't seem the best way to teach someone anything. I know you don't have to be nice or anything, but some people just tune you out when you start off attacking them like that.

Yes, we call these people "stupid". Some of the best advice/lessons comes in forms people don't like.

I can't disagree with you honestly. But not ALL the best advice has to be in a form people don't like. And let's just leave it there. This back and forth between us isn't really solving anything.

Stormfalcon

Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 03:07:57 AM
I can't disagree with you honestly. But not ALL the best advice has to be in a form people don't like. And let's just leave it there. This back and forth between us isn't really solving anything.

And that is one of the reasons why we have an ignore list now.  If you know that the person in question is not going to be one bit helpful and that discussing something with them is going to go nowhere, use the ignore list and nip it in the bud before it gets dragged out, or worse.
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