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« Reply #280 on: May 17, 2010, 09:37:48 AM »

Last question out of me..seems so common sense, but with talk of possibly peacebonding plushies and such I figured I'd check.

For my Sunday costume, I plan to carry a harp. It's a small harp, probably a foot and a half tall, made of wood and fully functional.. as in yes, I could play it, so long as it stays tuned (it's very new so it has problems with that right now).  Here's a photo of it:



Thoughts on if it will need peacebonding? It's certainly not a weapon, but it does qualify in the prop department.

Two things going against me in the bonding department:

1. Costume has very little to it to attach to me (see icon, that's the character). No belts, no hooks, just a velvet dress and a zentai bodysuit.
2. Prop is a functional instrument. Makes me a little nervous about zipties on it.


I have a carrying case for when I'm not actively posing with it..just a black canvas bag with a handle, so if I'm just walking from one place to another it would likely go in there because that's where it's safest.  As for when I'm sitting/posing, an option that I thought would work would be to tie a ribbon or cord between my wrist and the back of the harp, just above the soundbox (if you're looking at the photo, that's the part on the left) as that part would be facing me.
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« Reply #281 on: May 17, 2010, 09:48:26 AM »

I'm cosplaying as Hungary from APH and I was wondering if frying pans were allowed??
Frying pans fall under "mundane, every day items which we are not really worried about, but would like to put a tag on just to establish that you do in fact understand our prop rules"

I'm really, really sorry if this question has already been answered since I'm really not willing to read through 14 pages of this. >.>;
Will Hibari's Tonfa be allowed? Kinda like this: http://www.cosplayhouse.com/Katekyo-Hitman-Reborn-Cosplay-Accessories-Kyoua-Hibari-Tofna-Version-2.html
They're hollow and light... >.> And blunt. Utterly and totally blunt. =_=;
Those are "tonfa" and are on the explicitly not-allowed list. This is regardless of what material they are made out of, unfortunately. (Even if it was a paper towel tube with a toilet-paper-tube-handle)

Quote from: fanime weapons policy
The effectiveness of the prop or the skill of the person in possession of the prop is irrelevant when determining whether the prop may be carried.

Quick Question: Those metal fans you can buy in the dealer's hall are not permissible to carry around/are not eligible for peacebonding correct?
Correct. Paper fans are OK, but as cool as those metal fans are, they are not eligible.

Last question out of me..seems so common sense, but with talk of possibly peacebonding plushies and such I figured I'd check.

For my Sunday costume, I plan to carry a harp. It's a small harp, probably a foot and a half tall, made of wood and fully functional.. as in yes, I could play it, so long as it stays tuned (it's very new so it has problems with that right now).  Here's a photo of it:

(Image removed from quote.)

Thoughts on if it will need peacebonding? It's certainly not a weapon, but it does qualify in the prop department.

I have a carrying case for when I'm not actively posing with it..just a black canvas bag with a handle, so if I'm just walking from one place to another it would likely go in there because that's where it's safest.  As for when I'm sitting/posing, an option that I thought would work would be to tie a ribbon or cord between my wrist and the back of the harp, just above the soundbox (if you're looking at the photo, that's the part on the left) as that part would be facing me.

We wouldn't have to attach it to you. We wouldn't even have to tag it if we couldn't find a safe way to do so. We could throw a small tag on a bag-handle to be sure you've got a tag, but other than that, there is no issue. Musical instruments represent the sort of mundane object which we do not feel is a "weapon" and must only be marked.

On another note;

I feel like there are a lot of you who are under the misconception that every prop is going to be attached to you. The only sort of props which will be attached are guns, and certain sword-props. I would like to put a peace-tie on most props, because I want everyone to listen to my "don't be an idiot, don't be a jerk" lecture that you get when I'm peace-tying you.

Oh, and:
alright then am i ok w/ 8'3" or do i need to shave a few inches off? thanks for all your help by the way guys!
Yes, we are unfortunately going to be that strict. If it is possible to shave a few inches off, please do so. If you cannot do so without causing serious harm to yourself or your prop, please come talk to me. (I feel like I'm saying that a lot recently) I try to work *with* you guys, not against you.

The logic for the 8' limit, btw, is that weapons over that length get *so* unwieldy that you cause a bit of a hazard when going through doorways, which are over 7' tall.
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« Reply #282 on: May 17, 2010, 09:55:32 AM »

On another note;

I feel like there are a lot of you who are under the misconception that every prop is going to be attached to you. The only sort of props which will be attached are guns, and certain sword-props. I would like to put a peace-tie on most props, because I want everyone to listen to my "don't be an idiot, don't be a jerk" lecture that you get when I'm peace-tying you.

I think it stems from a combination of weird past experiences and "erring on the side of caution" so that nothing comes from left field.

I'll listen to a full speech if I know everything will get in safely (and yes, by ALL means if the harp bag can be tagged, I'm totally fine with this!!!).
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« Reply #283 on: May 17, 2010, 09:56:06 AM »

Aella, um... My prop gun that I would be bringing is a hand gun prop that is fifteen inches long. Here is a few links with photos of it. http://dark-lord-of-sith.deviantart.com/art/hellsing-Jackal-prop-cast-3-164153873   http://Dark-Lord-of-Sith.deviantart.com/art/Hellsing-Jackal-prop-cast-2-164153735   http://Dark-Lord-of-Sith.deviantart.com/art/Hellsing-Jackal-prop-cast-1-164153603   ... I would be using a simple sword holster for it if you need it in a holster. Also if you want to see photos of it in the holster so you have an idea of what that would look like I will gladly do that. All I really have to do to the gun is the paint job. It will be all black with an orange tip. Just tell me how long the tip needs to be so I can paint it the right size.

Those will have to be in a holster of some sort. It doesn't have to be fancy, but it does have to contain  your guns. We will have to peace-bond them into a holster. (Or rather, 2 holsters, since there are 2 guns)
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« Reply #284 on: May 17, 2010, 10:00:12 AM »

On another note;

I feel like there are a lot of you who are under the misconception that every prop is going to be attached to you. The only sort of props which will be attached are guns, and certain sword-props. I would like to put a peace-tie on most props, because I want everyone to listen to my "don't be an idiot, don't be a jerk" lecture that you get when I'm peace-tying you.

I think it stems from a combination of weird past experiences and "erring on the side of caution" so that nothing comes from left field.

I'll listen to a full speech if I know everything will get in safely (and yes, by ALL means if the harp bag can be tagged, I'm totally fine with this!!!).

I do think there were a lot of "weird past experiences", so I see where that one's coming from. There are some reasons for those experiences, but to share would be gossipy and would probably result in a few lectures. (If you want to know the weird stuff about fanime, try staffing it)

I'm trying to establish a system of tagging *props* and not just *weapons* because the borderland between them is so vague. Technically speaking, you can bludgeon someone with that harp, but I don't consider it a weapon because it's expensive and would be damaged if you hit someone. Unfortunately, that same argument could be used for some prop swords or guns, so it's not a valid argument to exclude it. (This whole policy is pretty crazy, and has logic behind every single rule, even when they don't make apparent sense to you guys)

Our first and foremost goal is Congoer Safety, followed by Police Safety followed by Not Damaging Props. (One of the peace-bonding commandments this year is thou shalt not damage people's props)
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« Reply #285 on: May 17, 2010, 11:23:06 AM »

so i modded the rifle prop that i have that falls under all the rules, i stuck a heavy duty velcro on on side of it and the other side was added to my armour. So the heavy duty velcro is my holster, and its still hard to take off but its not permenant. Will that be ok? i just dont want the guns to be peacebonded to me again like the past year...for two reasons 1# i need it for %80 of my cosplays which will have the same velcro system and 2# when it was peacebonded to me it cracked the handle because it was too tight and when i sat down it snapped...id have to take off most my armour just to sit with the method of peacebonding it to my armour. also to make things easier for my non-moving prop/non loadable (at anytime ever) non-airsoft toy gun i dipped the front half of the muzzle in red plasti dip.
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« Reply #286 on: May 17, 2010, 12:19:01 PM »

Loner, that sounds ok, but I'm going to have to see it to give you the 100% OK
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« Reply #287 on: May 17, 2010, 07:31:54 PM »

How large does the orange tip have to be on hand gun props?
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« Reply #288 on: May 17, 2010, 11:43:23 PM »

How large does the orange tip have to be on hand gun props?

At least 1/2" visible from the side of the gun.
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« Reply #289 on: May 18, 2010, 04:41:29 PM »

i have a pocketknife as a prop. but the blade is completely covered by air-dry clay and only the handle shows. can i bring this to fanime?
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« Reply #290 on: May 18, 2010, 05:59:02 PM »

i have a pocketknife as a prop. but the blade is completely covered by air-dry clay and only the handle shows. can i bring this to fanime?

Because of the "having a real knife inside" I would really have to say no. If you were to create a knife out of *just* air dry clay, I could say yes.
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« Reply #291 on: May 18, 2010, 06:03:39 PM »

I have a question about the wording from the gun peacebonding rules.

"Items which are too large to be holstered may be dealt with in another way." What does this entail?
Depends on how large of a prop we're talking about. Did you have a specific prop in mind??

Like Nerf shotgun?
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« Reply #292 on: May 18, 2010, 06:27:38 PM »

I have a question about the wording from the gun peacebonding rules.

"Items which are too large to be holstered may be dealt with in another way." What does this entail?
Depends on how large of a prop we're talking about. Did you have a specific prop in mind??
Like Nerf shotgun?
Hahahah. I just looked at your sig and figured out why you're asking. Everything but your gaia cosplay is going to have a gun of some sort, huh?

Hand-gun sized prop-guns (which meet all other requirements) must be holstered.
Shotgun/Rifle sized prop-guns (which meet all other requirements) may be hand-carried.
Absurdly Huge prop-guns (which meet all other requirements) get a tag and a lecture for paying attention to your surroundings.

Does that make sense?
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« Reply #293 on: May 18, 2010, 07:39:38 PM »

Would these props be okay?

Rifle:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Rifle-WIP-2-164539421
I'm going to paint is like this when i finish assembling it: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/timebmb757/Sniper_IMG.png
It's made from wood and PVC pipe. Would it be okay to carry it around if i painted the tip orange? Or will it look to real?

Butterfly Knife:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Butterfly-Knife-WIP-139754830
Whole thing is made of wood and the tip of the blade is rounded.

Revolver:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Ambassador-WIP-2-139754606
It is in the process of being painted to look like this: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7091/ambassador.jpg
Do i have to add an orange tip to this? It would look ridiculous if i tried to paint one on.

Hidden Blade:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Hidden-Blade-and-Forearm-Armor-157705543
I'm cosplaying Altair from Assassin's Creed and i'm wonder if it will be legal to carry that around. The blade is made from wood and it has a locking mechanism. The blade won't come out unless i pull on the mechanism. This prop is gravity operated.
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« Reply #294 on: May 18, 2010, 08:15:39 PM »

probably not on the hidden blade or the knife but i dont know....(due to them being wood)
but in the same topic i have paper kunai attached to a belt via metal rings you cant take it out, its for display only since its only paper and a paper hidden blade of the same kind from Aphaestus's post but completely made out of paper and scotch tape and layered over with silver duct tape, that should be ok right? it even bends because its made out of paper!

Would these props be okay?

Rifle:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Rifle-WIP-2-164539421
I'm going to paint is like this when i finish assembling it: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/timebmb757/Sniper_IMG.png
It's made from wood and PVC pipe. Would it be okay to carry it around if i painted the tip orange? Or will it look to real?

Butterfly Knife:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Butterfly-Knife-WIP-139754830
Whole thing is made of wood and the tip of the blade is rounded.

Revolver:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Ambassador-WIP-2-139754606
It is in the process of being painted to look like this: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7091/ambassador.jpg
Do i have to add an orange tip to this? It would look ridiculous if i tried to paint one on.

Hidden Blade:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Hidden-Blade-and-Forearm-Armor-157705543
I'm cosplaying Altair from Assassin's Creed and i'm wonder if it will be legal to carry that around. The blade is made from wood and it has a locking mechanism. The blade won't come out unless i pull on the mechanism. This prop is gravity operated.
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« Reply #295 on: May 19, 2010, 11:29:16 AM »

I have a question, hopefully it's not as completely ridiculous as it sounds :x

'Live' ammunition!

I'm making "smoke flares" for my Lord Yupa costume to go in my shirt breast pockets. If you're familiar with the character (he's from Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind) you might recall that they look an *awful* lot like shotgun shells. Which I happen to have.

I've cut some of said shells open and extracted all shot, wadding, and charge from them with painstaking detail. I have yet to discharge the priming cap. Once that's done they'll be completely inert, just harmless shells of steel and plastic.... that still look like shotgun shells.

Is this acceptable?
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« Reply #296 on: May 19, 2010, 11:33:10 AM »

so for my guns, i ended up buying 2 more toy rifles that are none firing. im going to take the trigger off it and paint it gold, then im going to plasi dip the muzzle thick red like the others and strap it on my back with velcro straps. The rifles arent meant to come off but i dont want those peacebonded either, like i said peacebonding props to costumes damages something and im just paranoid since my gun broke last time this happend....ill show you aelia that it cracked when i ask for you, thats why id rather find alternate ways to strap it on my back myself, so please excuse my paranoia.
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« Reply #297 on: May 19, 2010, 11:34:08 AM »

Would these props be okay?

Rifle:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Rifle-WIP-2-164539421
I'm going to paint is like this when i finish assembling it: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/timebmb757/Sniper_IMG.png
It's made from wood and PVC pipe. Would it be okay to carry it around if i painted the tip orange? Or will it look to real?

Butterfly Knife:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Butterfly-Knife-WIP-139754830
Whole thing is made of wood and the tip of the blade is rounded.

Revolver:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Ambassador-WIP-2-139754606
It is in the process of being painted to look like this: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7091/ambassador.jpg
Do i have to add an orange tip to this? It would look ridiculous if i tried to paint one on.

Hidden Blade:
http://aphaestus.deviantart.com/art/Hidden-Blade-and-Forearm-Armor-157705543
I'm cosplaying Altair from Assassin's Creed and i'm wonder if it will be legal to carry that around. The blade is made from wood and it has a locking mechanism. The blade won't come out unless i pull on the mechanism. This prop is gravity operated.

That is some beautiful woodcraft, sir. Are you professional?
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« Reply #298 on: May 19, 2010, 11:35:57 AM »

this is gonna be like last year's incident when they allowed a decomissioned rpg, the fact that it was real at one point i think they will say no....just sayin

I have a question, hopefully it's not as completely ridiculous as it sounds :x

'Live' ammunition!

I'm making "smoke flares" for my Lord Yupa costume to go in my shirt breast pockets. If you're familiar with the character (he's from Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind) you might recall that they look an *awful* lot like shotgun shells. Which I happen to have.

I've cut some of said shells open and extracted all shot, wadding, and charge from them with painstaking detail. I have yet to discharge the priming cap. Once that's done they'll be completely inert, just harmless shells of steel and plastic.... that still look like shotgun shells.

Is this acceptable?
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« Reply #299 on: May 19, 2010, 11:45:15 AM »

I have a question about the wording from the gun peacebonding rules.

"Items which are too large to be holstered may be dealt with in another way." What does this entail?
Depends on how large of a prop we're talking about. Did you have a specific prop in mind??
Like Nerf shotgun?
Hahahah. I just looked at your sig and figured out why you're asking. Everything but your gaia cosplay is going to have a gun of some sort, huh?

Hand-gun sized prop-guns (which meet all other requirements) must be holstered.
Shotgun/Rifle sized prop-guns (which meet all other requirements) may be hand-carried.
Absurdly Huge prop-guns (which meet all other requirements) get a tag and a lecture for paying attention to your surroundings.

Does that make sense?

Yes! Thank you so much!

For Gaia I have an enormous sword I'm making from fiberglass work (Currently working on) Under 6'
For TF2 I of course have the flamethrower that meets the requirements of being oversized
For L4D I have a shotgun
For Metal Slug I'll probably just use the shotgun
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