Late Night Pleasures?

Started by xichisex, May 22, 2011, 09:40:02 AM

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Mango Bunny

Quote from: xichisex on May 24, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 23, 2011, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: xichisex on May 23, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
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Quote from: Xeluu on May 23, 2011, 12:58:26 PM
http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,10782.0.html
There's the old thread on the concept of Yuri related events. The second page really brings up the points of why something like Yuri bingo wouldn't work.
yea i agree that the girls are at more of a risk. I think the main reason why we guys want it is because we dont think its fair the yoai is so common at fanime while yuri is only sold on DVD and no manga or yuri events. I think if more yuri events and other things happened it wouldnt be a problem. But without it guys (yes im male to) will eather say yuri strip bingo to or not do both. I saw yuri bingo is 100% ok just take out the problem no REAL girls getting nakied and yuri prizes.

Ok more on topic. GL at bingo!!! i can assure you i wont be there unless i get riped in 2.5 hours and stay that way and become one of the guys.
I don't know. I personally consider the Maid Cafe yuri enough. The staff have said completely that there would never be a Host Club, but they allow the girls to serve men instead of ever having men serve women. Though they girls are naked or hitting on each other it is still one of the only female events at fanime.

Na i think guys are allowed to join but they have the were the maid outfit. And they are naked and hitting on each other WAAA the year i went all i got was a sandwich they put on a table infront of me and said enjoy
Guys are not allowed to join in at the Maid Cafe. Even if they crossdress. It isn't a crossdressing cafe, it's a FEMALE maid cafe. There is another name for a crossdressing cafe. Can't quite remember it, but it was talked about on Sankaku. And my maid didn't do that at all. Or rather maids. ;3 They gave me food, walked me to the table, I ate a few bites while she walked away and let my friend and I chat, then came back and bowed and asked if we wanted to play a game. We said yes, then we played little board games with her like, "Pop the Pirate" and "Pop the Dragon". :D It was fun. Then we took pictures with her and she walked us out.

The difference between a host club and a maid cafe are always going to be different. They are not alike in any way. A host Club hires men who intentionally flirt with the customers to get their temperatures rising. While a maid cafe is merely cutesey which is why some can find it erogenous. The maids don't flirt, but rather give out the adorably outrageous cute factor to make their customers happy, not horny, happy. A HOSTESS club on the other hand is like as host club, but that's far too dangerous for Fanime to ever do because in a hostess club some men are allowed to touch women and they are dressed extremely provocatively. Now a hostess club is also not a strip club.

The whole reason Fanime doesn't want something like a host club or a female/yuri bingo is because it holds a risk of danger. There are some people at fanime, that I know from experience, that are downright creepy and touchy. I've had people randomly come up and hug me and to me that is frightening. Especially if they grab you from behind and hug around your chest, or hug you from the front and squeeze you tightly. It hard for girls to get hugs without her chest being involved because to me the lower the guys hands are when he hugs a stranger, the creepier it is. Now this is just my personal opinion. So to have a yuri bingo who knows what kind of creeper watching could, perhaps, stalk to girl to her room later, or if she is at the convention alone, walk to her car later, and some guy tries to hit on her and such. That isn't acceptable and unlike the men they can't always defend themselves. Or if she is walking around the con' in general and the same guy keeps following her and taking pictures of her without her permission.

Okay, now for the host club thing. A lot of girls, even I, agree that a host club would be a wonderful idea, however, even though the men can defend themselves and such, the idea of being hit on and then told to leave probably isn't the best self-esteem booster for most woman and I think the fanime people probably recognize that. Unlike the maid cafe where girls don't hit on the boys, but instead just act cute and giggle, the boys in a host club usually touch girls hands, say sweet things to them to make them all giddy and get their temperature up. Fanime isn't about that. Unless it is in the Hentai/Yaoi night stuff, but even there, there isn't someone personally going around and touching you. AND a lot of girls don't have boyfriend at fanime and vice-versa to men, so to have a host club for women who have no boyfriends, some could be just as creepy as men and stalk them too.

And also.. A half naked man isn't the same as a half naked woman. Men can show their chest, women can't. Even though it's practically equal to wearing a bathing suit, the idea of guys taking pictures of the half naked girls and posting them on the internet after the yuri event is also a huge concern because this would be invading privacy. And... I can't think of too many girls who would willingly let their pictures be taken in their underwear at fanime and let you post them on the internet or have you keep them as keepsakes. It's just wrong.

Just to add a bit about Yuri Bingo...

It's very true. Men and women are not the same. Us, the women are the ones who have had virginity pressed on us for ages. Men are supposed to cavort around with people. I'm not trying to be feminist here, I'm just saying that because of this fact, women are still much more of a forbidden fruit. If an attractive guy is in a swimsuit and walking around some girls might giggle over it, but mostly people would be like "Why is that guy in a swimsuit? There's no pool here." If it was an attractive girl in a swimsuit it would be more like "OH MY GOD WE NEED TO GET A POOL HERE SO SHE'S LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME." I've seen things like this first-hand from some of my guy friends when they see a pretty girl, or a girl who is in a short skirt. There's also the fact that while some women are strong and some men are weak, generally it's an accepted notion that women are less intimidating. The society we've grown out of was one where men are the hunters, the protectors, and they are in charge. Because of this, even if you had a very confident, strong woman playing Yuri Bingo, it would still be a very skewed environment. 5 girls prancing around for a room of mostly men? Mmm. Not so savory.

Also, let's face it, in the real world a man's strip club is just funny, and that's sort of the sentiment people take with them when they go. Whenever I've heard a bachelorette party being planned it's always been "I AM SO GETTING HER A FIREMAN STRIPPER THIS WILL BE SO FUNNY"
I think we all know about the lady strip clubs. Mhhmm.

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fearghoul

Okay can someone explain why these events are called "Yaoi" Bingo and the canceled one "Yuri" Bingo. From the descriptions it sounds like they are mostly striptease events with no homosexual activity involved whatsoever. The "Yuri" Bingo in particular seems like a complete naming misnomer. It wouldn't be "Yuri" Bingo unless they only allowed women to attend and play, and while I'm sure a few ladies wouldn't mind seeing ladies strip on stage, I bet the majority aren't that interested in such an event. And I agree that the idea of girls stripping down on stage for men seems a little inappropriate for a convention, even if it is an 18+ event. Go to a stripclub if you want to see that, but something like that at an anime convention would only sully its reputation.


zeroelement

Quote from: fearghoul on May 25, 2011, 10:01:39 AM
Okay can someone explain why these events are called "Yaoi" Bingo and the canceled one "Yuri" Bingo. From the descriptions it sounds like they are mostly striptease events with no homosexual activity involved whatsoever. The "Yuri" Bingo in particular seems like a complete naming misnomer. It wouldn't be "Yuri" Bingo unless they only allowed women to attend and play, and while I'm sure a few ladies wouldn't mind seeing ladies strip on stage, I bet the majority aren't that interested in such an event. And I agree that the idea of girls stripping down on stage for men seems a little inappropriate for a convention, even if it is an 18+ event. Go to a stripclub if you want to see that, but something like that at an anime convention would only sully its reputation.


The yoai is the prize  the prizes are guys getting undressed.
The yuri is a no go till i post a way to safly do it (without girls getting half naked)
I dont think there is any lower yoai yuri and hentai can go so to "sully" it all people got to do is google it with safe search off
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Mango Bunny

The other thing about Yaoi bingo and why it is Yaoi Bingo is because, from my understanding, it's hosted by Yaoi Con.

So it's like, Yaoi-themed bingo with pretty men. I went last time and there were a few occasions where the men stripped the other men if I recall. So it's kind of an overall yaoi theme, with yaoi prizes.

Again, imagine how different it would be if women stripped women. Argh. Much less funny, much more.....suspect.

zeroelement

Quote from: Mango Bunny on May 25, 2011, 12:35:18 PM
The other thing about Yaoi bingo and why it is Yaoi Bingo is because, from my understanding, it's hosted by Yaoi Con.

So it's like, Yaoi-themed bingo with pretty men. I went last time and there were a few occasions where the men stripped the other men if I recall. So it's kind of an overall yaoi theme, with yaoi prizes.

Again, imagine how different it would be if women stripped women. Argh. Much less funny, much more.....suspect.
fearghoul was ether just confused or trolling(one post)
We all understand the women are at more risk XD so take out the women and it will work XD
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D oh

If there's is a Yaoi screening how come there isn't  a Yuri Screening? I already looked at the schedule and couldn't find it.

xichisex

Quote from: D oh on May 26, 2011, 02:26:16 AM
If there's is a Yaoi screening how come there isn't  a Yuri Screening? I already looked at the schedule and couldn't find it.
Because unlike Hentai night and Yaoi night I guess there is a higher chance at people masturbating secretly? The yaoi stuff is basically just filled with fangirls squeeing the whole time and the hentai stuff they show is HILARIOUS! There are too many yuri animes that aren't not serious and guys do like their girl/girl action. Not saying chicks dont, but its a little harder for THEM to do anything unless they come prepared or somethin'.

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zeroelement

Quote from: xichisex on May 26, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: D oh on May 26, 2011, 02:26:16 AM
If there's is a Yaoi screening how come there isn't  a Yuri Screening? I already looked at the schedule and couldn't find it.
Because unlike Hentai night and Yaoi night I guess there is a higher chance at people masturbating secretly? The yaoi stuff is basically just filled with fangirls squeeing the whole time and the hentai stuff they show is HILARIOUS! There are too many yuri animes that aren't not serious and guys do like their girl/girl action. Not saying chicks dont, but its a little harder for THEM to do anything unless they come prepared or somethin'.
70% of the hentai is yuri
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Just out of curiosity, how are the guys removing clothes picked?

Mango Bunny

Quote from: Raynovac on May 26, 2011, 08:20:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, how are the guys removing clothes picked?

They're official Yaoicon bishounen if I'm not mistaken

zeroelement

Quote from: Mango Bunny on May 26, 2011, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: Raynovac on May 26, 2011, 08:20:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, how are the guys removing clothes picked?

They're official Yaoicon bishounen if I'm not mistaken
to be a bishounen i think you have to volunteer like a rover)
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Quote from: zeroelement on May 26, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: xichisex on May 26, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: D oh on May 26, 2011, 02:26:16 AM
If there's is a Yaoi screening how come there isn't  a Yuri Screening? I already looked at the schedule and couldn't find it.
Because unlike Hentai night and Yaoi night I guess there is a higher chance at people masturbating secretly? The yaoi stuff is basically just filled with fangirls squeeing the whole time and the hentai stuff they show is HILARIOUS! There are too many yuri animes that aren't not serious and guys do like their girl/girl action. Not saying chicks dont, but its a little harder for THEM to do anything unless they come prepared or somethin'.
70% of the hentai is yuri
not sure which hentai you are watching, but my experience says it is at most 25%, unless you also consider a threesome yuri, in which case it goes up to 55%.


On a different not, we had a regular host club panel with girls dressing as the male characters, that was loads of fun.

zeroelement

Quote from: daiphyer.com on May 29, 2011, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 26, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: xichisex on May 26, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: D oh on May 26, 2011, 02:26:16 AM
If there's is a Yaoi screening how come there isn't  a Yuri Screening? I already looked at the schedule and couldn't find it.
Because unlike Hentai night and Yaoi night I guess there is a higher chance at people masturbating secretly? The yaoi stuff is basically just filled with fangirls squeeing the whole time and the hentai stuff they show is HILARIOUS! There are too many yuri animes that aren't not serious and guys do like their girl/girl action. Not saying chicks dont, but its a little harder for THEM to do anything unless they come prepared or somethin'.
70% of the hentai is yuri
not sure which hentai you are watching, but my experience says it is at most 25%, unless you also consider a threesome yuri, in which case it goes up to 55%.


On a different not, we had a regular host club panel with girls dressing as the male characters, that was loads of fun.
The hentai they(fanime) show is often 70% yuri
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Salty Pearl

Quote from: xichisex on May 24, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 23, 2011, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: xichisex on May 23, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 23, 2011, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: Xeluu on May 23, 2011, 12:58:26 PM
http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,10782.0.html
There's the old thread on the concept of Yuri related events. The second page really brings up the points of why something like Yuri bingo wouldn't work.
yea i agree that the girls are at more of a risk. I think the main reason why we guys want it is because we dont think its fair the yoai is so common at fanime while yuri is only sold on DVD and no manga or yuri events. I think if more yuri events and other things happened it wouldnt be a problem. But without it guys (yes im male to) will eather say yuri strip bingo to or not do both. I saw yuri bingo is 100% ok just take out the problem no REAL girls getting nakied and yuri prizes.

Ok more on topic. GL at bingo!!! i can assure you i wont be there unless i get riped in 2.5 hours and stay that way and become one of the guys.
I don't know. I personally consider the Maid Cafe yuri enough. The staff have said completely that there would never be a Host Club, but they allow the girls to serve men instead of ever having men serve women. Though they girls are naked or hitting on each other it is still one of the only female events at fanime.

Na i think guys are allowed to join but they have the were the maid outfit. And they are naked and hitting on each other WAAA the year i went all i got was a sandwich they put on a table infront of me and said enjoy
Guys are not allowed to join in at the Maid Cafe. Even if they crossdress. It isn't a crossdressing cafe, it's a FEMALE maid cafe. There is another name for a crossdressing cafe. Can't quite remember it, but it was talked about on Sankaku. And my maid didn't do that at all. Or rather maids. ;3 They gave me food, walked me to the table, I ate a few bites while she walked away and let my friend and I chat, then came back and bowed and asked if we wanted to play a game. We said yes, then we played little board games with her like, "Pop the Pirate" and "Pop the Dragon". :D It was fun. Then we took pictures with her and she walked us out.

The difference between a host club and a maid cafe are always going to be different. They are not alike in any way. A host Club hires men who intentionally flirt with the customers to get their temperatures rising. While a maid cafe is merely cutesey which is why some can find it erogenous. The maids don't flirt, but rather give out the adorably outrageous cute factor to make their customers happy, not horny, happy. A HOSTESS club on the other hand is like as host club, but that's far too dangerous for Fanime to ever do because in a hostess club some men are allowed to touch women and they are dressed extremely provocatively. Now a hostess club is also not a strip club.

The whole reason Fanime doesn't want something like a host club or a female/yuri bingo is because it holds a risk of danger. There are some people at fanime, that I know from experience, that are downright creepy and touchy. I've had people randomly come up and hug me and to me that is frightening. Especially if they grab you from behind and hug around your chest, or hug you from the front and squeeze you tightly. It hard for girls to get hugs without her chest being involved because to me the lower the guys hands are when he hugs a stranger, the creepier it is. Now this is just my personal opinion. So to have a yuri bingo who knows what kind of creeper watching could, perhaps, stalk to girl to her room later, or if she is at the convention alone, walk to her car later, and some guy tries to hit on her and such. That isn't acceptable and unlike the men they can't always defend themselves. Or if she is walking around the con' in general and the same guy keeps following her and taking pictures of her without her permission.

Okay, now for the host club thing. A lot of girls, even I, agree that a host club would be a wonderful idea, however, even though the men can defend themselves and such, the idea of being hit on and then told to leave probably isn't the best self-esteem booster for most woman and I think the fanime people probably recognize that. Unlike the maid cafe where girls don't hit on the boys, but instead just act cute and giggle, the boys in a host club usually touch girls hands, say sweet things to them to make them all giddy and get their temperature up. Fanime isn't about that. Unless it is in the Hentai/Yaoi night stuff, but even there, there isn't someone personally going around and touching you. AND a lot of girls don't have boyfriend at fanime and vice-versa to men, so to have a host club for women who have no boyfriends, some could be just as creepy as men and stalk them too.

And also.. A half naked man isn't the same as a half naked woman. Men can show their chest, women can't. Even though it's practically equal to wearing a bathing suit, the idea of guys taking pictures of the half naked girls and posting them on the internet after the yuri event is also a huge concern because this would be invading privacy. And... I can't think of too many girls who would willingly let their pictures be taken in their underwear at fanime and let you post them on the internet or have you keep them as keepsakes. It's just wrong.

I strongly agree to all of the above. And it's true - host clubs aren't permitted for good reasons. I remember last year I visited the Maid Cafe and my friend suggested that they should initiate a Men's Cafe or Host Cafe so I could join.

But our maid explained that Fanime is trying to keep the cafe interactions very family oriented and open to everyone. She also tried to elaborate that having men serve and flirt directly with customers was way too racy - apparently another con tried it and that didn't end well...

But overall, the steamy events are reserved for night for a reason, whatever the staff decides on it's probably on very reasonable grounds.