Anyone else let down by this year's Fanime?

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monotone

Quote from: tifachan101 on May 31, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SquallLHeart on May 31, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
Who was the awesome rover in the purple shirt on saturday for the yuya signing? she did an awesome job keeping everyone in check :DD
oh.. i know her! yes.. she's awesome. :P

please tell her i said thank you and that she did an awesome job :DDD

I was wondering was it saturday or do you mean sunday because saturday there was a girl in a dress. was that her?

I was wearing a purple dress on Saturday, but I worked the Yokota signing C:

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PyronIkari

Quote from: bebop on May 31, 2011, 10:32:57 PM
Why must I even go into specifics or provide hardcore proof that it wasn't good? I'm not here to convince you that Fanime 2011 sucks, I'm here to Re:Anyone else let down by this year's Fanime? Lmao, suck it up. Can't handle handle the way I feel about things or what? I'm sorry but I don't feel like being optimistic about it since last year when it actually started getting bad.
Ok, so you're just complaining baselessly, offering no feedback and just whining like a child then. How does that help anyone? If you have complaints, then explain them so people can improve on them.

Quoteedit: However I did learn one thing, it is not the DJ to entirely blame for, it is the Con Management and their lame restrictions on limiting what people want to actually play.

The music sucks, my friends hated it, random people said they hated it, and other people on the forum said they don't like to dance to "techno" (Lol, it's not even techno). I personally don't hate it, but it just wasn't innovating, captivating, melodic, euphoric, dreamy, hard, or progressive. You think I'm the only one complaining about this? Wow, you'd be surprised bro!
Uh... the con management restricted them on what they can play? Says who? Oh, you of the all knowing obviously know better than the staff members of the con apparently... and the djs...

QuoteNo I actually don't know what a Maid Cafe is. You didn't know that I didn't know? I went probably since it started, as I recall it was in its early awakening in 2009-present. (Not sure if it was there 2008-before though.)

I don't need to explain to you. If you don't agree with me then get off my nuts. If I don't like it, I'll say I don't like it. Just because it was good for you horny maid defending otakus in shining armor, doesn't mean that it's gonna be good for everybody. Some people just enjoy mediocrity, and some expect higher.
Actually you do need to explain it to me... because I'm co-head of the maid cafe. And how my girls act with patrons is important to me. So I will request some information. Who was your maid. Because I was in the cafe for a good majority of the time, and my staff was in there a good majority of the time.

QuoteWhen I went to the Maid Cafe, they didn't really smile, and the Maids looked rather pissed off and annoyed because of who-knows-why. Maybe it's because otakus like you keep trying to hit on them. I understand because they are in dresses, heels, being stalked/checked out by creeps, and are under pressure and stress from many other responsibilities. But who told the maids they had to be that busy? If they can't pull it off then perhaps they should tone it down.

No smiles, no friendly vibe, and they didn't even check my table after they seated me. I don't want to go more into details, so shut up.
OH PLEASE DO GO INTO MORE DETAILS. Because this is my cafe and I need to know what's going on it. Again, please tell me who your maid was. She tells you her name when you enter the cafe and almost all of them wore name tags. Also, I'd like to know what time you were in the cafe and what day. I need to take these complaints seriously as I absolutely do strive for perfection.

QuoteRestaurant and Cafe is nearly the same thing. Actually, it is even easier to do a Cafe than it is to do a restaurant. So really, it shouldn't be that hard at all for them. You still have to have customer service skills, social skills, common sense, friendliness, and lots of patience. How many tables are at the Maid Cafe anyway? How many Maids were even working?
There were 12 tables with the capability of seating 10 people each. There were a total of 59 maids including the staff maids, not all at the cafe all the time of course. What time were you asking about and I can tell you how many maids were working. Almost all of my girls were rather competent, all of them are sociable and friendly.

QuoteLMAO is this guy serious? I'M A COOK IN A HIGH CLASS RESTAURANT, I MAKE FROZEN MEDIOCRE FOOD AND OVERCHARGE BECAUSE I GOT CUTE LITTLE MAIDS WHO WILL MAKE UP FOR MY MEDIOCRITY! THOSE IDIOTS WILL NEVER KNOW!

please, you're a sick joke. get out of here
And you seriously need to learn to read. You're comparing a restaurant with a small catering stand in a convention center. CURIOUS... where do you work? You don't have to answer this of course, but if you have any balls at all you will.

QuoteLol, how hard is it to just check up on tables 2-3 times, talk to the customers nicely with a smile, show a passion for the work, walk back and forth and bring frozen sandwiches and cold drinks out of a fridge, ignore annoying creeps that harass, or better yet, take the harassment lightly and just joke around with them casually. I get harassed or hit on by girl customers at work, and I just take it lightly and play along or make jokes with it. It really isn't that hard. Either the maids are shy, or they just don't have those kinds of social skills. What I do notice about the Maid Service at the Cafe is they give me a vibe that they just want to do their work, finish us off, and get us the hell out of here so they could finish. I get a vibe that they just want it to be over with, so they could leave.
If you knew anything, and actually were at the cafe (yes at this point I'm calling you out straight forwardly now) you would know that girls don't "check up on tables" at the maid cafe. It was absolutely more than obvious that the maids sat down with patrons. WAIT WAIT WAIT... you work at a 4-4.5 star restaurant and are saying that harassment of the wait staff is common? This doesn't happen in high class restaurants sir. And now you're just making crap up that they want you to get out of there. But hey, you're obviously the expert despite almost everything you saying not adding up.

QuoteIf you don't wanna accept feedback, and you like to face the wall of ignorance, then just ignore what I have to say. I wasn't directing toward you anyway in the first place anyway.
No, I love feedback. Did you not notice how I put up a thread for feedback? What I want is GOOD FEEDBACK legitimate feedback about what went wrong and what went right. What you wrote doesn't make sense. You state things happened and that the cafe was a certain way, when it wasn't, and just observing the cafe for 10 minutes you would know those things. So please explain what happened in detail. And strangely you were directing everything towards me, because again... I'm co-head of the maid cafe. Everything you said was DIRECTLY TOWARDS ME.

QuoteBut, it's ok, I understand, if I complain and make feedback, it is my fault, not theirs.  ::) ::) ::) Kinda ironic,  ::) because at restaurants/cafes if something is going bad, it is usually the workers that should take the blame. (Even if it wasn't the worker's fault. The customer will feel better that they are not responsible.)

Anyways.... just for the record, I'm an otaku too... kind of, not as much as before, so no need to call me a hypocritical person. (Look at my sig yo!)

Yes, it is the workers fault usually, but sometimes it's not. And quite frankly, I have a few guesses as to who you may be, and with some slight digging, I can probably figure it out, but again, if you have any integrity, you'll answer the questions I asked so I can get to the bottom of what happened during your visit to the cafe and fix this problem for next year. I have a good memory, but i'm terrible with names. So I'll make it easy and list out the information I would like and you don't even need to tell me who you are \o/

What time you came into the cafe.
Which table you sat at.
Who your maid was.

Thank you.

eHash

>edit: However I did learn one thing, it is not the DJ to entirely blame for, it is the Con Management and their lame restrictions on limiting what people want to actually play.

you misunderstood my personal message to you...but it is somewhat true, that the djs aren't entirely to blame.  it's also the mixed crowd atmosphere not necessarily the con-management.  for as many people you find that hated the music or say it sucks there's tons who liked it.  one thing that is consistent, you'll always piss off someone.

"I personally don't hate it, but it just wasn't innovating, captivating, melodic, euphoric, dreamy, hard, or progressive. You think I'm the only one complaining about this? Wow, you'd be surprised bro!"

never surprised bro.

Being in the service industry YOU (Bebop) know very well there are times when the loudest customer is the one that's heard and that it's sometimes unfair that a single person can represent the many...Please rethink your comments about the dance, from your post on the the forums it sounds like you spent a lot of time there, however in your personal message you admitted, you may not have spent as much time as you represent. Just as an example, take 2 similar food places like C_y and B_ C_, you'd find people who love and those who hate things about each...However, if I only eat 2 pieces of shrimp from one and it's not good i won't yelp that it "sucked ass".  

I can't blast other Fanime Dept's in the forums, but I will agree with one of Bebop's points around customer service.  This is problematic for the maid cafe.  On one hand they are volunteers, they don't get paid, they pay for their outfits, and are not professional waitresses, but on the other hand...since food is paid for, it's a featured concession on the concourse, and they serve food, the Maid Cafe needs to keeps little customer service in mind. Those in the customer service industry get extremely irritated when they get bad service because they may take it personally.  But, Bebop, I've gone to YOUR resteraunt and gotten bad service (when I even know the owner)...do I yelp that? (a) you could have emailed me your comments personally, (b) the way you phrased it on here I have to admit is one of the least productive ways to complain. (c) I played 14 songs on your list of requests (more than 1/2) and you're still bitching about the music? o, but you weren't there...that's like yelping that C_'s food sucks because you didn't get to eat it because they ran out while you waited 2 hours to get a seat.



jes.panda

Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SquallLHeart on May 31, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
Who was the awesome rover in the purple shirt on saturday for the yuya signing? she did an awesome job keeping everyone in check :DD
oh.. i know her! yes.. she's awesome. :P

please tell her i said thank you and that she did an awesome job :DDD
lol, I think it was me.  BTW thanks, it feels nice to be recognized.

dealerJason

As always after I read a, "What went wrong this year" thread, my first thought is, please join staff!  Especially if you think you could fix what everyone is griping about!

Congestion-We hear you on this.  But folks, we had 10,000 on the first day!  Are we talking about spreading things out?  To be sure, but will you enjoy the extra walking to have more space?

Training-We want to train everyone well, but we have lives too.  I wish I could live and breath Fanime, but I have a family, a job, and the desire to run a small con at my school.  Does that leave a lot of time for training and organizing?  We all do what we can when we can.

Schedules-Heartbreaking, especially since it had been 5 years since that SNAFU happened last.  I remember sitting on Stage Zero in 2006, telling everyone we finally had schedules, only to be out again.  Yeah, I made that schedule myself too.   That sucked because it sucked.

Yoshiki-I have to tell you guys, when someone like Yoshiki drops out of the sky for your con, you do what you can to grab him, even it it means you do not think it all through.  Yes it could have been handled better, and would have been if it had not been so last minute.  But seriously, would you want us to turn down a guest just because we don't have all the logistics planned?  I think you would shoot us.  

Folks, I do this for you, I do it to hear your cheers, to hear your squeals of laughter and joy that his con brings you.  For most of you, this past weekend is Christmas, New Year's, and your birthday all rolled up into one.  Believe me, that is in the back of my head during every planning session.  We have yet to put on the perfect con, but we do strive to every year.  Next year, it will be a new list of gripes, but I guarantee there will be many more smiles.

Jason Ebner
Fanime Staffer *retired*
I was blamed for EVERYTHING! :-)
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jes.panda

Quote from: monotone on May 31, 2011, 10:46:29 PM
Quote from: tifachan101 on May 31, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SquallLHeart on May 31, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
Who was the awesome rover in the purple shirt on saturday for the yuya signing? she did an awesome job keeping everyone in check :DD
oh.. i know her! yes.. she's awesome. :P

please tell her i said thank you and that she did an awesome job :DDD

I was wondering was it saturday or do you mean sunday because saturday there was a girl in a dress. was that her?

I was wearing a purple dress on Saturday, but I worked the Yokota signing C:

[ P.S. Dood, add me on facebook! ]
I worked Yuya's signing and was wearing a purple scarf as a shirt.  interesting...

eHash

"Folks, I do this for you, I do it to hear your cheers, to hear your squeals of laughter and joy that his con brings you.  For most of you, this past weekend is Christmas, New Year's, and your birthday all rolled up into one.  Believe me, that is in the back of my head during every planning session.  We have yet to put on the perfect con, but we do strive to every year.  Next year, it will be a new list of gripes, but I guarantee there will be many more smiles."

I remember there were years I got the wrong toy from Santa....but people please be constructive when ranting...it's more helpful...

monotone

Quote from: jes.panda on June 01, 2011, 12:27:56 AM
Quote from: monotone on May 31, 2011, 10:46:29 PM
Quote from: tifachan101 on May 31, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SquallLHeart on May 31, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: otaku_duckie on May 31, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
Who was the awesome rover in the purple shirt on saturday for the yuya signing? she did an awesome job keeping everyone in check :DD
oh.. i know her! yes.. she's awesome. :P

please tell her i said thank you and that she did an awesome job :DDD

I was wondering was it saturday or do you mean sunday because saturday there was a girl in a dress. was that her?

I was wearing a purple dress on Saturday, but I worked the Yokota signing C:

[ P.S. Dood, add me on facebook! ]
I worked Yuya's signing and was wearing a purple scarf as a shirt.  interesting...

Sounds like it was you, then C: Well deserved recognition, J-pan!
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Kanzake

Quote from: Mango Bunny on May 31, 2011, 08:13:36 PM
Add: I liked that rover guy walking around the masquerade line and yelling us the rules. He was cool, and while obviously tired was still good-humored about it.

Im glad someone liked me and didnt hate me :)
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In regards to the complaints involving staff. I can understand that it can be rather halting and upsetting when a rover is curt with you or yelling at you for something. Please think of it this way. You can have all the training in the world by the best rovers around, but nothing will prepare you for day one when hundreds of excited fans line up to enter. Is there room for improvement? Yes. Did we do the best we can? I'd like to think so. Also to whomever complained regarding the rover that threw a high five regarding escorting out a person taking a video of the concert? Number one everyone is told the rules regarding the musicfest concert and thus feigning ignorance of rules isn't really acceptable. These rules have been consistent. Number two, there were A LOT of people at that concert, some with glow sticks, others dancing and waving their hands. The sheer fact that a person was spotted with a camera in their hands in a dark room with constant shadowy movement IS something to be proud of. We did our jobs the best of our ability.

Yuu

As usual I had a lot of fun. Faanime has always been my favorite con because of the friendly staff and multitude of interactive events/games. A fact i am always bragging about those stuck at Sakuracon in Seattle.

However, by the end of con I was referring to Fanime as " peace bonding 2011'

" Did you enjoy Peace Bonding this year? I think it was the best Peace Bonding ever. The staff this really made sure that everyone knew what Peace Bonding is all about; Peace bonding. Yep .I'll never forget it"

I was actually approached by staff about peace bonding no less that 7 times while I was holding my tiny little sword at my side and looking through artwork/merchandise.

While waiting for an elevator in the hotel I was harassed another three times by staffers who wee NOT even on the clock.
An angry cosplayer even asked if my sword was peace bonded because his had been taken away. I was not there so I can't say for sure, but I can guess by how much I was harassed, and the rareness of a prop actually being taken away that it wasn't deserved.

This was all nothing compared to Saturday night. I was playing a game of ninja and as I was used to having my sword, I played with  it in my hand.
Eventually I was approached by..some big guy and an actual police officer; or at least he played the part as he was obviously trying to intimidate me- who waited until I was sitting on my knees, obviously so they could look down on me and feel even bigger.

There was no 'excuse me' no 'can we speak with you' nothing to even let me know they were there. They simply stood right behind me and demanded " Is that peace bonded!?"
I showed them that it was and, rather than ask that I not play with it in my hand they got incredibly rude and accusatory insisting that I had been intentionally using it to attack people.
" No it's attached ot my hand" ( as it was due to the costume)
" So it's peace bonded TO your hand?"
After explaining to them three times it was not 'peace bonded to my hand' ( it was tied that way) they actually accused me of lying and saying I was using it as an excuse to swing it around. In teh end I just got up and left.
I know that at this point it's my word versus theirs but had the intent been to hit someone, people would have been hit.
That NEVER happened.  It was poor judgment on my part to hold onto it but there was nothing malicious about it. It merely hadn't occurred to me. I was just, you know having fun; what a con is supposed to be about.
This is not 'the street' this is an anime convention. People are there t enjoy themselves. Not to be harassed or accused of violence.
Were I there supervisor I would be incredibly ashamed of such an unprofessional and immature attitude. Had they simply asked me to stop, or reminded me of the rules, it would have simply been "Right my mistake" and I'd have put the sword away but the way they approached and immediately jumped into accusations would tell anyone that they wanted to start a fight and throw their wieght around.

I have never had any issues of this sort at any convention I have ever attended-and I have been to Sakuracon-so I don't know what the deal is; if there was a new contract or something but I will be incredibly disappointed if it's allowed to continue next year and ruin  the  name of Fanime as a fun and friendly convention.


That aside, I actually enjoyed it a lot more than last year. I do get bored very easily at conventions but I was entetrained round teh clock this year.
" Your aren't taking sides if you spread out violence evenly"

apsykes

I was really let down by the security of the con, sure i know one of my buddies are a rover, he did a great job, but when a friend was quad-suiting in a Arcanine, some guy came out of nowhere and started to dryhump HER from behind, i did report it to a rover, Hopefully he was stopped by them or something. it was sunday night, Gaming room, late night.
secondly, this year wasn't that energetic, A total Con-killer to my friends that traveled all the way from Arizona from MY recommendation.
And i quote from my friend: "I'm thinking we should stick with SakuraCon, it was more fun there.  people there weren't all stiff"
Even got me thinking to reg for Saturday only next year.
I mean, Third time's the charm, right?

and as every year, Staff+Rovers are like this:
Thursday: Happy! happy! joy! joy!
Friday: Happy happy meh meh.
Saturday: What do you want?!
Sunday: *Censored Censored Censored AWAY FROM ME*
Monday: Finally! it's over!
I did see a few of contradictions, like a few rovers/staff that were still kind and polite to the attendees.

Also to a few of my furry friends in their suits, did get put down like "Yiff in hell Furf@%s" (Seriously? That was so 2003.)
Put downs and drunks @ Night
Mass mob of photographers @ Day (not a bad thing, except when they were dying of dehydration and gave me the Death sign to escort them quick to water and away from people)

Also, Fanime, A Dry Convention? didnt seem like it this year, i saw my fursuit friends get harassed (till i had to intervene), Three drunk guys harassing a ninja outside, And a drunk chick drinking beer in the convention center out of a ceramic coffee machine cup (Not to mention, Spilling some... vodka(?) on her 1,200$ suit.

Before anyone flames at me for anything on this or possibly banning me from the fourms, think of this as a critique, Take what you see in here that's bad, and FIX IT!

Also Peace bonding was sorta DERP, my friend brought her L4D fake gun to get it peace bonded and they said it was too realistic, but when i brought the same thing in, it was peace bonded under my badge ID (Serious? really? she was a girl too, more chillax to her!)
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i had problems with drunk ppl too, not at the con itself but in my hotel lobby. two drunk guys from the con (they had their badged on) tried to follow me into my hotel room! i didnt come out of my room till my guy friends came back >.< it really scared me
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bebop

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Oh, just forget everything I said then.

eHash, I stayed at the dance indeed for a few good hours, yes, and on other days too such as Friday and Sunday night. However, it slipped my mind that you were closing the sets on Friday night. And totally didn't know you were closing the sets in the main dance floor upstairs on all other nights. If I would have known, I would have definitely went to check out your set. I appreciate that you played some of the songs I requested. In fact, I feel like a total idiot for missing out. I have no excuses. I missed your part and damn I shouldn't have.

I didn't indicate this earlier but when I was giving a critique for the dance scene, it was only prior to the parts when I was there. I was there on Friday from 9-11 PM, and on Sunday from 11:30-12:00AM. I wasn't there during your set. (Damn I wish I was though)

So it's my fault, and perhaps I shouldn't have been so harsh with things. I apologize, and let's just forget what's happened here and let's move on to what we can do for next year.

I know the restaurant I work at is well known for some bad customer service at times. I'm a newer worker though, and I've been doing everything I can on the customer service improvement. It's been showing, I see results on yelp, but it is nothing beyond a conceivable level yet. After all, I only started a short while ago.

Quote from: PyronIkariOH PLEASE DO GO INTO MORE DETAILS. Because this is my cafe and I need to know what's going on it. Again, please tell me who your maid was. She tells you her name when you enter the cafe and almost all of them wore name tags. Also, I'd like to know what time you were in the cafe and what day. I need to take these complaints seriously as I absolutely do strive for perfection.

Perfection my ass. You're not striving for anything. You claim that I'm talking out of my ass? Look, if you have a customer complaining, then you really need to take into consideration into what they're saying. Why do I have to answer you all these personal questions? I shouldn't. Normally, the person is supposed to accept constructive criticism, accept it, whether it may be true or not, find out if they can make improvements. If it was a lie, then the improvements were not needed to be made, but at least it is the thought that counts. If it was true, then damn, you know what the problem is, so go fix it!

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No, I love feedback. Did you not notice how I put up a thread for feedback? What I want is GOOD FEEDBACK legitimate feedback about what went wrong and what went right. What you wrote doesn't make sense. You state things happened and that the cafe was a certain way, when it wasn't, and just observing the cafe for 10 minutes you would know those things. So please explain what happened in detail. And strangely you were directing everything towards me, because again... I'm co-head of the maid cafe. Everything you said was DIRECTLY TOWARDS ME.

The hell? You don't even know how long I was there for. How are you to judge that I'm just sitting there for 10 minutes acting like I know everything? First off all, I can't believe you are actually judging your own customer that invested time in money into your own organization, and has the courage to actually stand up and speak the truth, but you just blame me for being an idiot, and start interrogating me about who what where how and why. Think about it. Do you think I'm just sitting here making stuff up? Do you actually think I would enjoy hating on people for no reason? Dude, that's not fun at all. But honestly, get a reality check.

If I was you and someone complained to me like this, I would definitely take the blame and do everything I can to fix the problem. I would never, NEVER start to interrogate, and say stupid shit like "Imagine if you were this working in high heels with expensive dresses and had special performances to attend to." OR worse yet, mock the customer and try to make them feel like an idiot. How is a service industry going to improve, if all the comments they are getting is "You are a winner! You're the best! No one can beat you!" The business would never improve man. Bruce Lee, the wise once said, "Like everyone else you want to learn the way to win. But never to accept the way to lose." My god dude, why would you even hire people in the first place if they can't even do it correctly? I noticed that nobody else has said anything about the Maid Cafe on this thread, but among my friends and peers, all of them had a lot of negative feelings for it. Open your eyes, I'm trying to help you. A lot of people don't want to say anything bad, so they'll just lie modestly or they simply don't have the time or the courage to step up.

Just so you know, I never claimed that I work at a "high class" restaurant. I work at a decent restaurant at best, and it is rated that way on Yelp! I'm not here to boast that I am the best worker either. And yes, I do get hit on by girl customers, whether they are serious or not, I take it lightly, and I choose to play along with it or joke around. A restaurant doesn't have to be "high class" in order to have customers who don't have a physical or mental interest in the workers. I don't see any golden rule saying "You cannot hit or flirt with workers because it is blasphemy and thou shalt burn in hell." And if it is blasphemy, then damn, I feel bad for my customers.

I still can't believe you are asking me where I work, and you have the audacity that only "real men with balls" would admit where they work. Are you seriously the head of the Maid Cafe? What the hell. This is like blasphemy and corruption in the Catholic church. I feel like I'm going to get lynched because I said the Earth was round. So if another customer complains, are you gonna call them a pussy because they didn't go much into details by giving you their family name, their social security number, and their birth certificate? Do you have to REALLY know these things just to "strive for perfection?"

This is ridiculous. I don't have to give you any of my personal information at all. Not that I am an ass about it... but would you seriously interrogate a customer like that? Honestly...

Quote from: PyronIkariYes, it is the workers fault usually, but sometimes it's not. And quite frankly, I have a few guesses as to who you may be, and with some slight digging, I can probably figure it out, but again, if you have any integrity, you'll answer the questions I asked so I can get to the bottom of what happened during your visit to the cafe and fix this problem for next year. I have a good memory, but i'm terrible with names. So I'll make it easy and list out the information I would like and you don't even need to tell me who you are \o/

Wow, this is bullshit. You're threatening to find out who I actually am and where I work by "doing some slight digging" ? Dude, that's just creepy. What is this, CSI? You gonna call a lawyer, or detective on me? Forgive me, all I wanted to do was say how I felt about the Maid Cafe. I do no harm. Do you really want to actually search up my TCP/IP address? Is it really worth it?

Look, man, I'm not trying to do anything bad. In fact, I'm trying to help you. If it is too hard for you to realize it, then just forget about me. Just think of me as that dumbass who doesn't know what the hell he is talking about, and he has no balls because he doesn't wanna give his identity to anybody. Add me to your ignore filter or some shit.

Personally, I don't care if you find out who I am and where I live, work, how much I weigh, or my social security number. I just really find it unnecessary. You are always accepting the way to win, but not accepting the way to lose. You should really consider doing your work, instead of flaming a customer.

Mod edit: It's called a dance:)
Awakening to otaku inside. ^-^

Yuu

Quote from: bebop on June 01, 2011, 02:22:26 AM
What is this, CSI?

No,. He is just a troll. Your better off paying him no mind at all. You'll only waste your time and energy.
" Your aren't taking sides if you spread out violence evenly"

bebop

I'll be damned if I just successfully got trolled.
Awakening to otaku inside. ^-^

Yuu

Quote from: bebop on June 01, 2011, 02:51:46 AM
I'll be damned if I just successfully got trolled.

Eh, he successfully trolls quite often. You have to be here a while to learn just to ignore him/.
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Piccahoe

Quote from: bebop on June 01, 2011, 02:22:26 AM
"Imagine if you were this working in high heels with expensive dresses and had special performances to attend to."

I said that, and I have no affiliation with the maid cafe.  I was just trying to put you in their shoes and get you to sympathized with the maids, that's all.  Again, I have no affiliation, I am not even a staff of the con. I hope this clear things up and I'm not going to post again.
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PyronIkari

Quote from: bebop on June 01, 2011, 02:22:26 AMLots of words
Yes I am co-head of the maid cafe. And my issues are clear. You claimed you worked at a 4star restaurant. A 4 star restaurant on yelp is not a "4 star restaurant". So excuse me for misunderstanding what you meant.

My claim was not that you were at the cafe for 10 minutes, but you made "observations" that are untrue and stated that a maid only has to check up on the table a few times. This is actually quite wrong and a maid should not do this. What they should do is sit down with the patron AFTER they have finished their food and converse/play with the patron for 20 or so minutes before they leave. I'll break down the basics. A patron takes about 8-12 minutes to eat on average if they get a full meal. This is rarely the case. Usually it's just a sandwich or a desert if they order food. In which case a desert is about 5 minutes, and a sandwich is about 7 minutes (these are estimations based on the general amount of time that I actually recorded for my own data).

After the meal is near completion the maid comes and takes their trash and throws it away and returns asking if they would like company. They then sit with the patron and talk for a good 15-20 minutes. A patron roughly stays for about 30 minutes. From the time they are seated at the table.

Your complaints don't match up with this at all. And my statement was that anyone that stayed in the cafe would have easily observed this. So while I want feedback on the negative(and trust me I do) your claims and complaints don't even sound legitimate. It sounds as if you weren't in the cafe at all, or you really did have absolutely no clue what the cafe was/is supposed to be like despite going.

So on that note, my questions are fully legitimate. On the case that you did attend the cafe, your maid sat you and never returned, I need to find out why this happened. In which case I need to know when/who your maid was/ and where you sat.

My statement about finding out who you are, is qutie simple. I know people. It's not hard for me to ask around who you are, because i'm 99% sure, I have a friend that knows who you are and will tell me who you are. This is about legitmacy.

You said that you don't just hate and aren't just trying to complain, but that's exactly what you sound like you're doing. I've gotten feedback on things that went wrong, and I know a lot that went wrong and have gone through changing up how I'm dealing with some issues.

Your feed back wasn't even criticism because it didn't address anything, it was just complaining. So I need legitimacy in complaints. If you do not want to tell me who your maid was, when you came in, and which table you sat at, that is fine, but that means nothing gets accomplished and you're no longer offering criticism. There's no way to prove legitimacy in your complaint and your words will just be ignored as trolling.

Pengin-san

This negativity is just killing me. I was just telling my friend how I can't imagine what kind of work goes into making a convention successful. I can't even BEGIN to imagine. Was I upset that there were no printed schedules? Sure. Did I think it had an impact on the turnout to my panel? Perhaps, since I dropped from a completely full house to about thirty. However, I really don't think Fanime was as horrible as some of you are making it out to be. I have never been on staff so I don't know all of the details, but I saw rovers getting pissed off when attendees were doing and saying some pretty egregious things, so the attendees aren't completely innocent. I would seriously flip out if I had to deal with a thousand screaming fans.

To address the maid cafe, I think it looked great and I wish I could have gotten a chance to sit at it. The maids looked cute, I saw plenty of smiles and laughter, and some seriously happy guests. I'm really inspired to be a maid now.

This year was not THE best, but really for my own personal reasons. I did think the crowd was a little lack-luster compared to previous years, but sometimes that just happens. I was sad that my panel died, but that's fine. I loved seeing FLOW again. I LOVED meeting Yoshiki. The artist alley was brilliant, and, once again, I met some great people.  I can't wait for next year, and I hope all of the people screaming about how horrible it was will just run off and make their own convention.
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