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Quote from: echoshadow on March 04, 2014, 10:48:10 PMGuess you where not there at the feedback panel at the end of Fanime. The board of directors answered the same exact questions. It may not be word for word but the gist is this. What they said, Clockwork Alchemy has it's own staff, finances, etc. What Fanime does share is it's web support and it's promotion. So there you have it. That is at lest what they told the people at the room.
Quote from: dfens on March 06, 2014, 05:07:40 PMYes Clockwork Alchemy is taking money from Fanime, if they tell you otherwise they just don't want to admit it or they are telling a boldface lie. You see they take some of the money from Fanime to use for whatever they need it for. As for what specifically I didn't ask in detail. How much money? They didn't say I didn't press the issue.
Quote from: dfens on March 06, 2014, 05:07:40 PMAs for the registration cluster F*** last year the staff and people in charge know about it. This person told me this year they plan to hire professionals to do the registration, which I hope they follow through because waiting another 3 1/2 to 4 hours again to get my badge is BS. The time I wasted I could have worked more hours which I don't need to but could have been more comfortable at work then stuck in a never ending line to no where, to pay for a mailed badge or some more staff/better equipment. You think after doing the Con for so many years they would have it down and not screw things up, and know what works and doesn't works. All I know is that everyone I know and talked to said that if the lines continue to be just as bad this year and onward then we will just stop going to Fanime all together. And I think people flying in or who travel long distances will do the same. They better do something before they start to loose attendees. I know Japan Expo at least got the registration and line issues squared away their first year, as for the events, location, and things to see/do their is need for much improvement.
Quote from: dfens on March 06, 2014, 05:07:40 PMThe final thing which confirmed my suspicions about why the Steam Punk Con? As a person who pays for a Anime Con I want to attend a Anime Con. Not this or that whatever scene/theme, or whatever else they try to force in to get people through the door. So why the change and addition of Clockwork Alchemy a Steam Punk Con?I'll tell you some of the people involved where also upset but couldn't do anything about it. You see who ever is the big shot in charge at the very top for Fanime wanted to put on his resume that he ran 2 cons at the same time. And to hell if put a strain on the Con that has being going on for more than a decade and is the primary bread winner that attracts all the attendees. So nothing more than the sole benefit for one individual vs the attendees in general.It was hilarious that they had a off site registration for the Clockwork Alchemy which was also valid for Fanime, where the line was 15-20 minutes but at the Fairmont it was a average of 3-6 stinking hours. Oh it was a short line offsite by the airport because almost no one knew about it, so some got lucky while the majority of people where screwed.
Quote from: SpiritOfKairi on March 06, 2014, 05:54:23 PMIf that's true about the main organizer simply wanting two cons on his resume, that's a bit dumb. While I can understand wanting more on there, doesn't running one con well for decades look a lot better than trying to run two, and both stumbling in the process? I'm a bit skeptical about if this is true, but if it is, it just seems like a bad reason to bring another con into the mix.
Quote from: kookiekween99 on March 06, 2014, 10:19:36 PMFanime's chair team changes every three years to try and keep things fresh. CA was the current chair's brainchild. This is his third year though, so next year Fanime will be under new management.
Quote from: megamanjoe415 on March 08, 2014, 03:47:00 PMI have tried to talk to people in staff and they don't know whats going on.
Quoteour registration staff has been spending this entire planning year on working on them
QuoteWe're really close to launching with a *ton* of information. There's no real excuse for ever being late and it being under my division, I take blame.
Quote from: MPLe on March 09, 2014, 12:56:09 PMLocking this post so I can reply. I'll unlock it after I'm done replying.[Edit: Unlocking now. For real this time.]Going to make comments on random things here and there on dfens post. I'm hoping that these will squish some of the rumors going around and each and every one of you is free to always send me a PM.- dfens post is largely incorrect. FanimeCon and Clockwork Alchemy each have their own budgeting and Clockwork Alchemy doesn't "take" any money from FanimeCon's budget. This wouldn't be a smart move as an ever growing convention such as FanimeCon usually needs more money, not less.- The guests being "lame" is a separate issue that has been covered many times. There is simply no way of getting the "perfect" guests for each of our attendees, which is why we constantly make posts and reach out to attendees to see what type of guests they would like. Our GR team then uses that + market trends to get guests that we hope would be amazing enough for you guys to enjoy them. Keep in mind that although it happens, it's less common for people to comment when a guest is good than bad.- No one on staff has ever denied that the registration issues were bad. I, myself, have commented many times that they were bad and that our registration staff has been spending this entire planning year on working on them. The current goal right now is to post a "what's new" on Registration so people can be familiar with the new space that it's moving into (as well as how the line flow will work).- The comment about the FanimeCon convention chair wanting to put that "he ran 2 cons at the same time" is laughable as Clockwork Alchemy has their own set of convention staffers (including chair) and most of us don't work in industries where our convention experience is relevant enough to put on our resumes (although in all fairness, it's always a bit of a cool thing to bring up ;)).- FanimeCon and Clockwork Alchemy do share the same registration backend. The Clockwork Alchemy registration was more of a soft test to see if it would work. If we had 25% of the people at the Fairmont over there and something massive happened, we would have been screwed. We know now what ended up happening at the Fairmont after the fact.- The website launch is super late this year. I know it, the webteam knows, it, you know it, everyone else knows it. We're really close to launching with a *ton* of information. There's no real excuse for ever being late and it being under my division, I take blame.
QuoteI really am curious about how Clockwork receives their money to operate then? If they're not taking money from FanimeCon registration, how can they afford to run their convention? Even with table fee's accounted for, it still seems a bit unnerving.
Quote from: Kraken on March 09, 2014, 11:09:56 PM[Edit by MPLe: I am confirming that this is who he says he is. I won't be able to get to responses until tomorrow evening.]Hi I am the current Chair of Clockwork Alchemy. MPLe has helped to clear many of misconceptions and rumors regarding FanimeCon and Clockwork Alchemy. I will attempt to do the same for the question asked directly about Clockwork Alchemy. QuoteI really am curious about how Clockwork receives their money to operate then? If they're not taking money from FanimeCon registration, how can they afford to run their convention? Even with table fee's accounted for, it still seems a bit unnerving. Our small budget is not coming from your registration for FanimeCon. The bay area has a relatively large Steampunk community and it is from that community that we staff our convention and get the vast majority of the fans that register specifically for Clockwork Alchemy. Clockwork Alchemy gets its funds from these registrations, from table fees as you mentioned, and even from our own pockets as we endeavor to put on the best event we can. Relative to FanimeCon we have a much smaller attendance and as such we also have a much much smaller budget. FanimeCon has given us infrastructure to use but it was existing things like space on a server, access to a registration system and yes advice when we ask. Something we are infinitely grateful for. It was our responsibility to staff it and use these resources. In return we are happy that we can offer, for those who want it, an opportunity to come and enjoy the events at Clockwork Alchemy. I hope that we add something for FanimeCon attendees as having the opportunity to share what we love has been an amazing experience. I spent 10 years on FanimeCon staff before Clockwork Alchemy and was happy to introduced the Steampunk community to FanimeCon several years ago when I learned that Steampunk was the theme. Something we did then without using any of FanimeCons budget as well, even with the live performance. ;)I hope that I have helped clear up any misconceptions.
Quote from: kookiekween99 on March 10, 2014, 08:08:04 PMSo in other words, selecting which con you're attending in online registration determines which con gets the money from us? That actually makes a heck of a lot of sense.Also, I'm glad that we got a response from high-level staff from both cons.
QuoteHas it always been that way though? I don't remember 'choosing a con' being there until this year o_0
Quote from: Admiral Donuts on March 11, 2014, 06:09:01 AMThis is the first year they have it set up this way.
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