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Re: code of conduct suggestion
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2014, 12:53:08 PM »

Look, I already said the back-and-forth isn't going to change anything. If you approve of pedophilia I'm not going to change your mind.

I personally believe Fanime should not include child pornography in its celebration of anime and manga. Fanime, by approving the pedophilia that is sold and promoted in its convention, vicariously promotes it, and it shouldn't. That's obviously my standard and it's not shared by everyone. Am I arguing that my standard should be imposed on everyone else at the convention?

Yes.

Go cry me a river because I oppose child pornography and object to my city's anime convention supporting it.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2014, 01:23:05 PM »

I don't remember saying anywhere that I approve of pedophilia.  I don't.  What I do remember saying is that, legally speaking, drawn material featuring made up characters is not considered pedophilia.

Your second paragraph just makes me think you're a troll.  I can't believe that anyone would be so selfish as to think that their likes and dislikes trumps those of the rest of the 25K+ Fanime attendees.  Though, I guess your belief in your superiority makes sense considering you've ignored every valid suggestion I've made to you regarding how to prevent real life minors from being victimized because it's far easier to focus on the rights of the made up, non-victimized cartoon minors.

Like I said, if you don't like the fact that Fanime allows vendor to sell hentai featuring minors and/or featuring programming with animated, fantasy minors engaging in adult situations, you do not have to attend Fanime.  I'm sure that with Fanime's 25K+ attendance, your $60 admission fee will be sorely missed.
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2014, 01:31:19 PM »

I'm not addressing every single point you make because arguing why cartoon child pornography is inappropriate is not a difficult argument to make...except to people who are so immersed in Internet culture that they have become disconnected from real life society. But those people will never change their mind, so I'm not going to waste my effort.

Either Fanime will take action or it won't. I'm not going to spend too much time trying to change things when I can just not go. But I figure there are many people who agree with me, so I'm throwing the idea out there.
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2014, 06:06:08 PM »

I'm not addressing every single point you make because arguing why cartoon child pornography is inappropriate is not a difficult argument to make...except to people who are so immersed in Internet culture that they have become disconnected from real life society. But those people will never change their mind, so I'm not going to waste my effort.

Read: Your points are valid and I can't legitimately address them, so I won't and act superior while doing so.

(And BTW, you haven't addressed any of the valid points I've made ^_~ )

Show me a US case where a convicted child molester has said "I began to molest real children because I read it in a doujinshi I saw at a convention" and I'll acknowledge your argument as being valid.  People who molest real children are sick.  People who enjoy bondage doujinshi featuring cartoon 14 year old boys or girls (who unrealistically all have adult looking bodies) usually realize it's a fantasy and enjoy the material for what it's worth.  They do not attempt to act out these fantasies with real people because they understand that that is wrong.

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Either Fanime will take action or it won't. I'm not going to spend too much time trying to change things when I can just not go. But I figure there are many people who agree with me, so I'm throwing the idea out there.

And there are many others who will remain silent and agree with me.  The point here is that, as long as both Fanime staff and vendors check attendee ID to verify that they can look and/or buy restricted cartoon material, it should be allowed.  If the items in question are distasteful to you, you do not have to attend the panel, watch the anime, buy from the vendor or attend the convention. One, or even several, person's personal preferences do not trump those of everyone else.

However, since you've decided not to attend Fanime 2015 because they're not going to ban all doujinshi featuring minors (the majority of anime and manga feature minor characters), I suppose the point is moot and the topic should be closed.
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Re: code of conduct suggestion
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2014, 06:14:33 PM »

Thanks everybody for your input. We will take your comments into consideration. Thanks!
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