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Admiral Donuts:
Then pick-up for group registrations couldn't happen, and you'd have to wear the same paper bracelet from Thursday to Sunday.

Nina Star 9:
SacAnime uses plastic wristbands as their badges, and they're fairly durable, so they'll last a whole weekend.

I didn't bother doing any age-restricted events when I went to AX last year, so I don't know how their wristband system worked, and I don't usually attend age-restricted events at Fanime so I don't know how clogged the lines can get from ID checking.

But I can say, that as someone who attends SacAnime and has to deal with their wristband system, I don't like this idea, especially if it's pretty much expected that all 18+ attendees will wear a wristband. First and foremost, Fanime is a big con for cosplay, and having a wristband required makes that a lot more difficult for a lot of people, whether it's problems with the wristband being visible in photos or problems with physically wearing the wristband with a costume (especially things like bodysuits and armor). It's also not that effective of a system, since the wristbands are pretty easy to slip off. You can make them tight enough to not slip off, yes, but as someone with sensitive skin and poor circulation, I always request my wristbands at SA to be loose for comfort reasons. It would also make group reg difficult if the wristbands are handed out at registration, since reg wouldn't be able to simply hand someone a handful of loose wristbands and trust that they won't do anything illicit with them. I know that I wouldn't want to be expected to wear a wristband to prove I'm over 18 (probably not 21+ wristbands since this is technically a dry con...) or to advertise to others that I'm over 18 to other attendees.

I think that if something like this were to be implemented, it should be more like the AX system where getting a wristband is voluntary if you want to go to 18+ events. Even then...it seems really easy to just slip off the wristband and hand it to someone else, but then again, I didn't do any of this at AX so I'm not sure how secure it is.

LordDawn:

--- Quote from: Nina Star 9 on January 27, 2017, 08:56:15 AM ---SacAnime uses plastic wristbands as their badges, and they're fairly durable, so they'll last a whole weekend.

I didn't bother doing any age-restricted events when I went to AX last year, so I don't know how their wristband system worked, and I don't usually attend age-restricted events at Fanime so I don't know how clogged the lines can get from ID checking.

But I can say, that as someone who attends SacAnime and has to deal with their wristband system, I don't like this idea, especially if it's pretty much expected that all 18+ attendees will wear a wristband. First and foremost, Fanime is a big con for cosplay, and having a wristband required makes that a lot more difficult for a lot of people, whether it's problems with the wristband being visible in photos or problems with physically wearing the wristband with a costume (especially things like bodysuits and armor). It's also not that effective of a system, since the wristbands are pretty easy to slip off. You can make them tight enough to not slip off, yes, but as someone with sensitive skin and poor circulation, I always request my wristbands at SA to be loose for comfort reasons. It would also make group reg difficult if the wristbands are handed out at registration, since reg wouldn't be able to simply hand someone a handful of loose wristbands and trust that they won't do anything illicit with them. I know that I wouldn't want to be expected to wear a wristband to prove I'm over 18 (probably not 21+ wristbands since this is technically a dry con...) or to advertise to others that I'm over 18 to other attendees.

I think that if something like this were to be implemented, it should be more like the AX system where getting a wristband is voluntary if you want to go to 18+ events. Even then...it seems really easy to just slip off the wristband and hand it to someone else, but then again, I didn't do any of this at AX so I'm not sure how secure it is.

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I was implying that it would be like the AX system, I only suggested that they could hand them out at the badge pick up so that they wouldn't have to make a separate booth for the 18+ wristbands like the do at AX (which was annoying, they put the booth for it on the opposite side of the convention hall) for the staff's convenience.

As for the cosplay concern, as someone who cosplays and primarily hangs out at cons with fellow cosplayers, I haven't had an issue or known someone to have an issue with wristbands while cosplaying (both at AX and SacAnime). I get that it might be annoying to some people, but based on inefficiency of the 18+ events (where you had to have your ID on you which is more stressful than a wristband while your cosplaying) I think a minor inconvenience to some people would be ok.

I know a decent amount of people who didn't attend the various 18+ events at Fanime last year (primarily the dance) due to the extended process it took to get in.

WorldDominationStudios:
Making the wristbands optional seems to be the best idea. It would improve efficiency without impairing anyone's cosplay.

There are wristbands that cannot simply be "slipped off". I wore one earlier today during a hospital visit.

eHash:

--- Quote from: LordDawn on January 26, 2017, 05:04:05 PM ---I also forgot to mention that I think it would be a good idea in regards to the dance that their be an all ages portion prior to the 18+/21+ dance. Again similar to how AX did it, with the wristbands in mind, they had an all ages portion, then by a certain time they asked all attendees to leave momentarily (at this point they switched out DJ's, adjusted the lighting, and made other preparations. They then asked everyone wishing to (re)enter to have their badges and identifying wristbands to have them visible.

If I remember correctly it was something like 6pm-10pm was all ages, then from then until closing it was 18+ (obviously these times would be adjusted to the Fanime schedule, but this is just to give you a general idea)

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last year, the ax dance has an occupancy limit of <400 (four hundred) with a second 21+ room of ~300.  I don't remember them closing to kick anyone out at 10, they just didn't let anyone under 18 in after 10.  the fanime dance on sat. had >4000 (four thousand), it takes 30 minutes to clear the room and asking everyone to exit and WAIT IN LINE again is a bad use of resources (and it won't make a lot of people happy).  Besides, the dance is not a dating service and please state the benefit for having age restrictions on the dance after a certain time and how wristbands could be financially feasible and justifiable.  as someone that works with tyvek wristbands every weekend, there are ways to easily take them off and besides, if you put it on too tight, they sue you.  as for the plastic ones at a hospital (since i used to work at one) you only need a pair of needle nose pliers or a quality hole puncher.

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