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« on: June 25, 2003, 04:41:47 PM »

I guess I'll make a poll from this. Anyway I don't mind either format. I'd just like to know which one you like and why. Don't be mean to someone just cause they like a certain form ok?
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2003, 06:06:53 PM »

Both, because some things are just intended to be heard in the language that the anime is targeted towards (Japanese usually), and sometimes things are hilarious if you hear it in your native language.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2003, 06:07:39 PM »

BOTH....nuff said..
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2003, 06:42:45 PM »

I like my anime in this order: subbed/raw then dubbed.  I'm not one of them dub haters.  I honestly respect all the hard work and talent that go into making a dub track, but I can't say that I care to watch my anime in english.  I like listening to Japanese.  I find it to be a very fascinating language.  By listening to the Japanese track, I generally pick up a lot more because I have some knowledge of the language.  Things such as how characters talk and refer to themselves and others, cultural references, and word puns cannot be rendered well enough in english.  Also, Japanese voices can sound so cute/cool.  I'm sure you peoples have noticed that girls lose some of their cuteness when they are dubbed over.  And a lot of guys lose their coolness when they are dubbed over too (I'm still annoyed by the dubbed Kaga on Iron Chef when I hear him).
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2003, 08:32:42 PM »

I prefer my anime subbed but only dubbed anime that I can tolerate watching would be original transformers and Robotech.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2003, 08:49:33 PM »

I prefer (NEITHER) cause I can understand the thing to begin with :D

 But if I had to, I would go with the sub.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2003, 09:00:47 PM »

Quote from: "Tsubasa"
I like my anime in this order: subbed/raw then dubbed.  I'm not one of them dub haters.  I honestly respect all the hard work and talent that go into making a dub track, but I can't say that I care to watch my anime in english.  I like listening to Japanese.  I find it to be a very fascinating language.  By listening to the Japanese track, I generally pick up a lot more because I have some knowledge of the language.  Things such as how characters talk and refer to themselves and others, cultural references, and word puns cannot be rendered well enough in english.  Also, Japanese voices can sound so cute/cool.  I'm sure you peoples have noticed that girls lose some of their cuteness when they are dubbed over.  And a lot of guys lose their coolness when they are dubbed over too (I'm still annoyed by the dubbed Kaga on Iron Chef when I hear him).


oh wow...i couldnt have said it better.  its like he read my mind.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2003, 09:06:22 PM »

I tend to prefer subbed, but I appreciate a well-done dub as well.  Good thing that dubbing has been getting better over the years.  Not perfect, but better.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2003, 09:44:27 AM »

Both, as long as i can watch my anime, i'm happy.   :D
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2003, 09:46:46 AM »

It really varies for me o.O Often depends on how I first saw it - for example, I don't mind Gundam Wing dubs because that's the way I first viewed the series.

However, if someone even mentions the Weiss Kreuz dubs I'm liable to break a bottle over their head.  God help them if they say that they like them.

But those are phenomenally bad anyways, even if I did see fansubs first.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2003, 09:49:03 AM »

Here is a long quote that I take from "Ask John Archive" http://animenation.net/news/askjohn.php?id=694

"On a more subjective level, I prefer the sound of Japanese language in anime. It's interesting that you bring up the Cowboy Bebop English language dub because I recently experienced it for the first time when I saw the Cowboy Bebop movie in a local theater. Regretfully I have to disagree with the numerous people who argue that Cowboy Bebop is better in English. I believe that Japanese voice acting is carefully directed to create an aural atmosphere and mood. English dubbing is directed to convey story, with tone and atmosphere being only a distant secondary concern, if it's a concern at all. In its original Japanese language, the Cowboy Bebop movie creates a tone of despair. The film is about two living dead men whose ideals clash. The dialogue and its delivery emphasize that Spike and Vincent are similar. Both are men who survived tragedies that should have killed them. Both are men who continue to live on willpower and determination alone, devoid of hope. Vincent embraces his nihilism. Spike disguises his with a superficial jovial facade. Unfortunately, none of this comes through clearly in the English voice-over. In English, Vincent is simply a madman bent on apocalypse. His dialogue says that he's seeking redemption, but his English voice expresses none of the haunting regret and sadness that's in his original Japanese voice. In English, Spike is a carefree playboy. His taunts that he doesn't care about others or the fate of the world come across as casual off-the-cuff bluffs, unlike his weighty, solemn statements in the Japanese version which dare his opponent to call the bluff that partially isn't a bluff. The difference in vocal performance is also extremely apparent in the voice of Jet Black. In the original Japanese, Jet is a weary grandfather figure concerned about the well being of his charges, but also prepared to let them make their own choices and experience their own failures. His English voice, in my ears, comes across as whiney and jealous for lack of attention. The original Japanese language Cowboy Bebop movie uses its audio to create an ever constricting atmosphere of impending tragedy. Lines of dialogue get heavier and more carefully spoken as the film progresses. In my opinion, the English language Cowboy Bebop movie has no continuity and no evolving feel of events becoming more significant and dangerous. Even at its climax, the English dubbed Cowboy Bebop has a whimsical tone that never creates a sense of fear or dread the way the Japanese version does. The Japanese Cowboy Bebop movie is deadly serious and dramatic. The English language version simply is not so. Since the video footage is identical, the only explanation is the fact that the English voice over just doesn't convey the raw emotion and serious tone that the movie's creators designed the film to express."

His article helps me to realise why I hate dub.  
The English acting voice either flat(no emotion) or it's personality totally different than the japanese.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2003, 11:33:02 AM »

Subs or Dubs? Ohhh such a deep question, and one that has divided the anime community in america for...well, it has for as long as I've been into anime (though that's NOT really all that long compared to many Otaku on this board and in the community in general). But, I've had the joy of experiencing both Subtitled and Dubbed.
And it's my expert opinion to say that Subtitled is better, but both have their good points. With Subbed (or raw) you don't really lose out on as much. You get the emotion and the personality and the general atmosphere as it was meant to be (As Kei had mentioned or the article he'd used had mentioned). Dubs also have to be altered to fit with the movement of the lips and often times it'll affect the fluidity of the story and things like that. And then there's the actual voices... *cringe* If any of you have ever seen the Yami no Matsuei dub *shutter* It is the single, most terrifying and saddening thing I'd ever witnessed (and I only watched 10 minutes of it)
Dub can be really good as well... though, mostly only when I don't feel like reading. If I'm trying to do something or focus on the animation over the story, then I'll watch the dub. I think, if voice directors and even the actors would watch the original in Japanese, and at least attempt to get a similar voice (not identical or anything, but if someone has a soft voice, it'd be nice if they KEPT a soft voice), then dubs would probably be  a lot more enjoyable.

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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2003, 11:57:06 AM »

Iagree with Banana and Kei about subtitles. But depending on the anime, some dub isn't so bad. Like I was watching spirited away in English and it wasn't so bad, I went through my DVD of it, to see the actors and directors point of view and what not and they tried to get as close as they could to the japanese version, plus they compared it and I was like, if most anime dubbing companies did what Disney did, dubbing would be a whole lot better. So I was really impressed.But until dubbing gets better, I'm sticking with Subtitles. That or if Disney gets the rights to more animes or redo the dubbing XD.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2004, 06:48:09 PM »

Dubed is easier for me because I don't have to be constantly looking at the subtittles
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2004, 09:09:13 PM »

Too bad there won't be a dub room at the con this year.
I forgot to make a poll for this (didn't know how to back when I made this thread).
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2004, 09:18:00 AM »

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Too bad there won't be a dub room at the con this year.


Too bad indeed. Personally I prefer subtitles but I'm bring my little brother with me who won't be able to read fast enough to keep up with what's going on. Hopefully they will indicate on the scedual what will be dubbed and what will be subbed. If not I'm going ot go made wlaking from room to room trying to find one showing somehting my brother can watch. All I need, yet  another thing to stress about.

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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2004, 10:17:25 AM »

I prefer raw and subbed before dubbed, simply because the dubbed version can get so butchered and can lose some elements in translation.  However, there are some really good dubs (FLCL comes to mind) that I don't care which version I watch.
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2004, 07:00:59 PM »

I prefer subbed or raw for the extra practice at Japanese, but whether it's on Cartoon Network or it's what my friends prefer to set a DVD to, I have no problem with watching a dubbed version.

American dubs (which are mostly done in Canada  :P ) have reached a point where unless the original Japanese voice acting was pretty exceptional (Kenshin comes to mind here) you generally can't complain about a difference in quality.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2004, 06:57:22 PM »

I usually like good fansubs because too many companies these days seem to have a tendency to censor their subs, if only a little bit, which drives me nuts. Otherwise, I don't really care- if the dub is horrible for a certain anime (or there's only a dub for the butchered version of an anime) then I'll gladly take the sub, but I don't mind good dubs at all.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2004, 04:10:59 PM »

I prefer subs, but I like dubs that are REALLY high quality, such as with Spirited Away and other anime brought to the US on a high budget.
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