So..you probably know that Weiss Kreuz the original is my favourite series ^^ Needless to say, I was at first excited about the whole Gluhen thing.
Then I saw the character drawings. Then I saw the first episode. Those pretty much turned me off it until recently when someone sent me all the episodes on VCD and told me to watch them.
You know..this isn't Weiss. Yeah, they've got the old characters and they've got some assassination along with some familiar groups and such, but the darkness that was in the original series just isn't there, if that makes sense. I didn't connect with the characters at all the way I did in the first. Sena..well..Sena is Omi (including angst about his past) with the addition of Xena-esque fighting rings. Kyo is somewhat more useful than Botan but only by a little.
Aya..what in god's name have they done to Aya? Part of the reason he was such an interesting character was the struggle he was going through to reconcile himself with what he's doing. And now suddenly he's all fine with it and even smiles a good deal (for Aya). Yeah, I know his sister's awake and all but really..pretty fast change, Ayan-chan.
And don't even get me started on Yohji's new, urine-yellow hairdo. God, what did they do to my boy? On the plus side, they left him at least with the suffering that he went through in the first - the scene where he wakes up with his hands around Tsujii's throat is eerie because I wrote a scene like that into a fic before I saw the series. Yohji is still dealing with his past and it *makes sense*. Out of all the old characters, his characterization is best when viewed in the light of the original series.
Is Gluhen a good series? Yes. The animation is nice and the plotline is good. The scene where they find Todou and Kyo dead was powerful, in my opinion. The voice acting, as always, is incredible, and the music is excellent as well. But it isn't Weiss Kreuz - they've taken the characters and basic premise (a group killing bad people) and removed the emotional side of it. It's entertaining but it doesn't grip me like the original does.
So..yeah. I'd say watch it for itself, but don't expect it to be like the original or you'll be pretty disappointed. It's an good series but it lacks the emotion of Weiss Kreuz the original. While I no longer want to go and throttle Takehito-sama because of it, it's still..not Weiss =/
I have the first six episodes and have only watched the first 3.
When I first saw the new chara designs, I was shocked. So much change, especially in Omi and Youji. They looked awful. x_x; Aya and Ken were okay, but Omi and Youji... @_@ After I downloaded the OP movie, seeing the animation in motion wasn't as bad.
The first episode was umm... I dun know how to describe it, but you don't see suicides taking place in a first ep very often. Dark. Yeah, it's pretty dark. I don't remember what else happened in the next 3 eps. ^^; I should go watch 'em but they haven't been working on my comp upstairs and when I'm on this comp, I'm online.
I want to see Schwarz and Knight though! X3
(Schu Schu looks... bad. x_x)
::sniff sniff:: Schwarz and Knight are in the series but they come out like the 4 episodes of the series. For now, Weiss Kreuz Gluhen and OVA are being discussed about being licensed by Media Blasters again.
Quote from: "GokuMew2"I should go watch 'em but they haven't been working on my comp upstairs and when I'm on this comp, I'm online.
You should ^^ Because despite my bitching that it's not Weiss anymore, it's a good series XD if you'd like, I could try to make copies of the VCDs I have for you? I've got up to episode 12 ^^
Have you like gotten up to 13?
No, I've only got eps 1-12 >< Just realised that earlier today. I'm searching for a subbed version of 13 but having no luck thus far.
www.animesuki.com <----this is where I get most of my animes. and this is where I get all of Weiss Kreuz Gluhen.
I couldn't force myself to watch more than an episode. *shudders*
The same "old characters come back, but its mostly new ones" thing has turned me off to a show since they did it with Digimon. And the CHARACTER DESIGNS *twitch* I'll take the first season, thanks.
I would say watch it Jessa ^^ I was the same way, but..so long as you don't go through it comparing to the first, it's actually pretty good.
There was emotional suffering over killing people in the original series? *blink blink* I guess so... but I didn't really see it too much.... No, wait. I can remember it... I just never <b>believed</b> it. Think about it: Aya kills people with a sword... probably the most human weapon used by Weiss. Ken uses those claws... so realistically he's gotta be right up next to someone tearing them apart... that can't be pretty. Yohji's got to strangle people with his little cord, which certainly isn't a nice way to die... expessially since with a cord like that it should bite into the skin. And then there's Omi. I can see the arrows, but his other weapons are darts, ne? Are they poisoned? I hope so... otherwise "death-by-darts" would probably take a while.
As much fun as most of the show was, stuff like that always bugged me. Seriously... whenever one of them felt grievous about killing someone I would be like, "DUDE?! You strangled someone to death just the other day?! Why is it bugging you NOW?!?!?!"
Hmmm... now I want to know why exactly they were given such brutal weapons to use....
I think it makes more sense to have it hit them in random times rather than have them angst constantly - many people deal with pain/anger/whichever by ignoring it until it becomes waaay too strong and sort of explodes and I always thought that people in their positions would have to do that as a simple matter of survival. Constantly-angsting assassins would be dead assassins, ne? It's logical in my head that they express that sort of randomly because constant emotional turmoil would make them less effective.
As for the weapons thing, I'm of the opinion that they gave Yohji wire solely for the scene where he's strangling Neu over his back ~L~ But I actually read a piece once where someone went into the deeper significance of giving each Weiss member their respective weapons and it made a lot of sense. I had it saved on Kyo, my old computer, though, so I lost the link when his harddrive crapped out on me. I do remember that one of the things they went into about Yohji's weapon was how the killing method it was based off of (garotting) was something that was used on dishonourable females often at some point or something like that o.O It's been two years since I read this thing so I'm probably misremembering.
Whee~ early morning ramblings ~L~
Edit: And it is NOT weird to assign gender to my computers *sniffs at non-forum person snickering at her in ICQ*
Quote from: "Tendai"Constantly-angsting assassins would be dead assassins, ne?
I suppose that you're right... you'd just think that with the way they're killing people that you'd be forced to with deal with it or suffer a break down much quicker. I just assumed that since they were super-duper assassins and everything that they'd been doing it for a while.... *shrugs*
...and no, it's not wierd to assign a gender to your computer. In fact, my roommate's computer is named Fred Lowe... and like the "Outlaw Star" character of the same name, she claims that her computer is gay. That's odd.
XD that's what makes them super-duper assassins - they can turn the angst on and off at will? ~L~
Yay! XD And a gay computer isn't odd at all! Poor Duo-Emiru here has multiple personalities brought on by the fact that I couldn't decide which name to give him and smacked both on there.
Quote from: "Tendai"You should ^^ Because despite my bitching that it's not Weiss anymore, it's a good series XD if you'd like, I could try to make copies of the VCDs I have for you? I've got up to episode 12 ^^
Thanks, but I don't have a VCD player. ^^; I like DivX files just fine. Thanks for the offer though. *hugs* And I've seen 13 subbed somewhere. I believe Xenon Fansubs finished the series.
I download mine from AnimeWorld. I sort of didn't like their comments at the end of series but I didn't let go through. Dur...what do you expect from Weiss series to have a happy ending? It wasn't that much happy to begin with. Well, that's my opinion.
Shuldich is creepy :shock:
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Quote from: "Miyamato_Mushasi"Shuldich is creepy :shock:
:( :? :) :D :cry: :x :evil: :twisted:
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True true.... That's why I go with Nagi. Hehe.... :wink:
And more thoughts on charas and other things after getting last defective VCD replaced:
Omi - Still whiny and overdramatic. I still wanted to slap him at times especially during the scene right before they go to face Epitaph. "I have chosen to live as Takatori Mamoru"..blah blah blah. Okay kid. We all know you have an identity crisis. Now just choose a name and personality and stick with it.
Fight between Yohji and Aya - Loved it. Something I'd seen in my head for a while made real. Wonderful ^^
Crawford - Uh..okay. Blond. Monocle. Is it just me or is he trying to become a rural British nobleman? Bad, bad, bad. As much a travesty as Yohji's redesign was.
Schuldig - Wow..he looks like a badly dressed Top who's about to go into a particularly flamboyant gay bar. It must be the idiotic hat - reminds me of the ones I saw at Folsom before.
Farfarello - Didn't get a close enough look >< But he looked..odd.
Nagi - Eeeh Nagi got sexy! Sure, he has Due le quartz-esque sweepy hair over the eye, but I can deal with it cause mmm! I like him! And I think they got his attitude right.
and..
The Rosenkreuz team - Sexy. Evil. Everything that Schwarz was in the original and isn't in this series. Belga's voice is yummy, as is Belga himself. I want one. The girl reminds me of a mix of Farfie and the little girl who speaks in the beginning of Berry by Dir en grey. The pyro guy I didn't really have an opinion on.
Now to wait for episode 13 from my friend Yil. I swear, if Yohji is actually dead I'm locking myself in my room and never coming out *gr!*
Quote from: "Miyamato_Mushasi"Shuldich is creepy
I love Schuldig! XD Midorikawa sama~~~ Schu Schu is crazy/psycho. Crazy/psycho is GOOD. Bwehehehe~ I like how he kidnapped Omi and all that. Mmm... Midorikawa sama sounded awesome as him too. All deep 'n stuff. =d That was pretty close to his really deep seme voice! Yum.
QuoteSchuldig - Wow..he looks like a badly dressed Top who's about to go into a particularly flamboyant gay bar. It must be the idiotic hat - reminds me of the ones I saw at Folsom before.
WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BISHIE *sobs* He looks like he raided Trowa Barton's circus clothes, got drunk and acessorized. *shudder* Poor baby...
At least Schu's hair and face look VAGUELY the same. I've a friend who's close to killing someone over what they did to Crawford.
*stomps up and down on Project Weiss for not paying Tsuchiya-sama royalties for her designs and losing the rights for them!*
Does it sucks that Schwarz comes out the last few episodes? Oh Nagi....I just love how you make an entrance in episode 10! -dreams- He's one sexy boy who is all grown up.
Hehe...I still love Ken but it just that all you are talking about Schwarz. So, I stick to the subject.
I'm sort of happy it was just the last few - if it had been sooner, I would have been irritated by the changes even longer XD and damn right. Nagi = teh s3xx0r.
Belga x Nagi.
Mrrrrr.
Must write!
I admit Nagi is very....yummy. I like him more in the first series though, cause he's closer to my age ^_^
He was too young for me in the first series. So happy that they made him all grown up and sexy in the second one. Oh...there's a manga coming for Weiss Side B. I saw it on a website. Hmm...let me see if I have the link..... Somehow, Ken looks like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat and Aya looks like the Phantom of the Opera dude with Katana.
Ah...the link to the manga---> http://www.jpqueen.com/onlineshop/productinfo.asp?PID=29089
I didn't look at the link yet, but I noticed in most manga pictures, Omi tends to look older. At least it's (slightly) better than his Card Captor Sakura look in the series! I mean he stole her hairdo and her hat, and not to mention the whole Genki blond-ish kid thing...
Not that I have TOO much against Omi, he's alright.
And I just thought about something! List the Weiss/Schwartz boys in the order you like them! Mine are:
1. Schuldig (*drool* I say no more)
2. Yohji (I love his attitude, but I'm too young for him ;_;)
3. Farfarello (YIYIYIYIYIYIYI)
4. Nagi (I like his telekenetic power-y stuff!)
5. Crawford (I named my cat after him XD)
6. Aya (Eh..he's alright)
7. Omi (Too high maitenence and has too many mental breakdowns for me)
8. Ken (I don't know why he's my least favorite, he just is. He's not really that special to me)
Quote from: "Jessa_chan"List the Weiss/Schwartz boys in the order you like them!
01. Schuldig - Psychos rock, and when they're voiced by my fave seiyuu, it's an added bonus. ^^
02. Aya - I have a thing for guys with swords. =d And two words: "Takatori!!! SHINNNNNNEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
03. Ken - He has a cool weapon and Seki sama! =D
04. Omi & Nagi - They're cute ^^ I knew Sasaki sama did Nagi's voice the moment he screamed. ^^; I was like, "It's Yuusuke!!"
05. Crawford - He's cool. And Okiayu sama.
06. Youji - I love the way he uses the wires. It's awesome.
Of course there are others I like, but I can't really rank them. In fact, after Ken, I'm not exactly sure how the ranking goes. ^^;
And tell me. What happened to Aya (Ran's sister) in Gluhen?!?! She was such a big part of the plot in the first series and then there's no mention of her in the second series? Baaaah. =\
Quote from: "Jessa_chan"List the Weiss/Schwartz boys in the order you like them!
1. Ken-- I don't know but I just love him when he first came out. His seiyuu is an added plus!
2. Nagi-- Episode 10 in Gluhen made me love him even more!!!
3. Farfarello-- There is something about psycho makes me go crazy. hehe..
Umm...the rest is hard to put in order. Oh...Ran's sister came out in the last episode of Gluhen where she works in the flower shop with her boyfriend? I think.
QuoteList the Weiss/Schwartz boys in the order you like them! Mine are:
Oookay..Going JUST by the original series and not counting Gluhen.
1. Yohji - Is and will always be my favourite for every reason that it is possible for Yohji to be someone's favourite. And people who badmouth Shin'ichiro-sama will have to answer to me XD because he CAN sing, damn it.
2. Schuldig - Schu kicks ass. He is everything that a sexy villain should be. Rowrrrr.
3. Aya - Angsty. Sexy. And voiced by my seiyuu god. There is no more to say.
4. Crawford - See what I wrote for Schu ^^
5. Nagi - Honestly, Nagi's one of my favourites. In my world, Schu/Aya/Crawford are tied for second and Nagi should be third. I love the humanity they gave him.
6. Farfarello - YIYIYIYIYIYIYI! Farfie kicks ass but is, in the end, my least favourite of the Schwarz boys.
7. Omi - Omi. Stop whining. No one cares about your father.
9. Ken - Meh, Ken's always been so blah for me.[/b][/code]
Quote from: "KyraEnsui"Oh...Ran's sister came out in the last episode of Gluhen where she works in the flower shop with her boyfriend? I think.
Oh did she? Okay then... But last ep? >_>;
I need a new HD so I can continue downloading anime. Bah!
Quote from: "Tendai"And people who badmouth Shin'ichiro-sama will have to answer to me XD because he CAN sing, damn it.
He sure can! ^^
I've gotten quite into Miki sama lately. Perhaps it's because he's in almost every new anime! LoL. He sounds real good singing the Loki ED,
Believe in Heaven. My fave songs by him are:
Believe in Heaven,
Sweet feeling (w/ Ishida Akira sama), and
Understanding -Ai to Tame ni- (w/ Ueda Yuuji sama). The last two songs are from the Suki na Mono wa Suki Dakara Shouganai!! (aka Sukisho!) song album, -HEAVENLY BREATH-. Awesomeness. =3
And I just realized that
Understanding -Ai no Tame ni- would be a pretty good song to karaoke. Wonder if my friend would be interested in singing it with me.
It's sad that I'm missing sooooo many Weiß songs (by the group and from the series).
PS Miki sama has an awwwwesome seme voice. =d Just listen to Papa to KISS IN THE DARK. (Buwahahaha!! Midorikawa ukeeee! XD) *nod*
QuoteIt's sad that I'm missing sooooo many Weiß songs (by the group and from the series).
I have the TV soundtrack, instrumental CD and a good portion of the songs from all the drama CDs, so if there's anything you're looking for I'd be happy to send it to you ^^
XD the first time I saw Shin'ichiro-sama I knew that he was Yohji's seiyuu even though I couldn't read the chara names in the article they had pictures of all the WK seiyuu in. It just..fits..I mean, look at him!
Quote from: "Tendai"I have the TV soundtrack, instrumental CD and a good portion of the songs from all the drama CDs, so if there's anything you're looking for I'd be happy to send it to you ^^
XD the first time I saw Shin'ichiro-sama I knew that he was Yohji's seiyuu even though I couldn't read the chara names in the article they had pictures of all the WK seiyuu in. It just..fits..I mean, look at him!
Cool, thanks. ^^ *WinAMP plays
Glühen* ^^; It's a sign!!
You know, Miki sama is one of the few seiyuu who look good having their hair dyed. Others would probably be Morikawa Toshiyuki sama and Sakurai Takahiro sama. (Sakurai sama's a cutie, btw. XD) Some people, such as Midorikawa sama and Okiayu sama, look horrible. x_x Highlights are maybe okay, but fully dying their hair a color looks just awful!
I have not seen them with their hairs dyed. >_< Just hope that Seki Tomokazu don't have it. Er...
Quote from: "KyraEnsui"I have not seen them with their hairs dyed. >_< Just hope that Seki Tomokazu don't have it. Er...
Nope, not Seki sama. (Thank God.)
Have you *seen* Midorikawa sama's hair at Anime North?! Kyaa~ It was a disaster! I think he's changed it since though.
Quote from: "GokuMew2"Quote from: "KyraEnsui"I have not seen them with their hairs dyed. >_< Just hope that Seki Tomokazu don't have it. Er...
Nope, not Seki sama. (Thank God.)
Have you *seen* Midorikawa sama's hair at Anime North?! Kyaa~ It was a disaster! I think he's changed it since though.
No I haven't. Er... I want to see.....hmm...do you have a pix? Hehe.... Oh speaking of Midorikawa-sama...I found this really interesting about him and his role in this anime.
http://www.boysonboysonfilm.com/reviews/afterschool.html
QuoteHave you *seen* Midorikawa sama's hair at Anime North?! Kyaa~ It was a disaster!
Nooo, THIS is a disaster ;_; Look what sexy sexy Takehito-sama did to his hair.
http://www.kekkai.org/wkcorner/anime/yickykoyasu.jpg
He looks like he's trying to crossplay as Velma from Scooby Doo.
Quote from: "KyraEnsui"No I haven't. Er... I want to see.....hmm...do you have a pix? Hehe.... Oh speaking of Midorikawa-sama...I found this really interesting about him and his role in this anime.
http://www.boysonboysonfilm.com/reviews/afterschool.html
Huh. ^^; And interesting URL. LoL.
Quote from: "Tendai"Nooo, THIS is a disaster ;_; Look what sexy sexy Takehito-sama did to his hair.
http://www.kekkai.org/wkcorner/anime/yickykoyasu.jpg
He looks like he's trying to crossplay as Velma from Scooby Doo.
LOL! XDXD
I still kinda think Okiayu sama's hair was worse. Lemme see if I can find a pic. Bah. I looked around and can't find it right now, but believe me, it was awful. x_x
But check out Midorikawa sama's hair!
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Blah. x_x I like it better when he just has some highlights.
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Seki sama looks like a mushroom. XD Ishida sama is quite round himself. ^^;;;
I just realized how many new afureko pics there are. Must save them. *collects seiyuu cast pics*
Old pic, but I'll share. Yamaguchi sama gets a hug from Koyasu sama. =3
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Wow...what a collection. Err...I don't like that hair style for Seki-sama. Awww... I like that last picture. That's so kawaii! :D
*kicks Yamaguchi out of there and replaces with herself XD*
Quote from: "Tendai"*kicks Yamaguchi out of there and replaces with herself XD*
LoL! You wish. ^^;
Well... I patiently finished watching Gluhen before. The Drawing and sketches are Nice... better than the Season 1. But heck! in WK, the Guys look Cooler and Better than the WKG.
At first I thought SENA was OMI... thats why I really did my best watching the First Episode... [well Omi is one of the MOST reason I have watched the Anime in the first place.]
ahh... Too bad Kyo and Todo [clone] died. I started to like them both on their last ends.
and What happen to Schwarz in Gluhen?!
Brad... he looked like a Old Guy who is working in a Mansion.
Schuldich... The hecks with the HAT?! What happen to his glasses and Bandana?
Nagi... the looking so Innocent Nagi turning to a Emo Looking Guy!!!!
and WHERE THE HELL"S FARFARELLO?>??!!!
ROSENKREUZ being a group of Antagonist SUCKS! They cant Beat Schwarz even in LOOKS!
TT-TT WK/OVA is still the BEST!