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Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: lying is an art form on December 27, 2006, 01:36:29 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2006/12/20/pokemon-diamond-and-pearl-coming-in-april-2007/

Now that it's officially announced that we'll have a whole month to max out Pokemon stats and all bring 100+ level Pokemon to Fanime, let's get a list of people who know for sure they'll be getting the game and want to participate in a tournament of sorts at Fanime =D
Title: Re: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: G.I.R on December 29, 2006, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: "lying is an art form"Now that it's officially announced that we'll have a whole month to max out Pokemon stats and all bring 100+ level Pokemon to Fanime, let's get a list of people who know for sure they'll be getting the game and want to participate in a tournament of sorts at Fanime =D

April 22nd!?!  Gaaaah!  How will I have time to get even a few level 100 Pokemon in five weeks (assuming I get Diamond, or Pearl on the first day).   :x
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: mDuo13 on December 29, 2006, 04:15:47 PM
Oh man.

I know what I'm doing before, during, and after finals, leading up to Fanime.

Jeez.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: lying is an art form on December 30, 2006, 02:54:18 AM
I can get 15% off any of them since I have a friend working at EB.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Tsubasa on December 31, 2006, 06:23:45 PM
I'll have it at the con, but whether I'll feel like I'm ready to participate in a tourney or not is entirely up in the air.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Shinigami on February 12, 2007, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: "Tsubasa"I'll have it at the con, but whether I'll feel like I'm ready to participate in a tourney or not is entirely up in the air.

Same here. April doesn't give us a lot of time...especially for those of us trying to juggle college, work, and our personal life, and barely have time any more for video games as it is. But yeah I think we should have different tourneys....like a level 1 - 10 tourney, 10 - 20, etc. Something like that maybe. Because not all of us will have 100s by Fanime. ^_^;;

But you know, Pokemon D/P will also have fun wireless activities not available through wi-fi such as an underground area with rare items, Pokemon, fossils, and a capture the flag game.  :D I don't know if I'll be up for a tourney, but I'll definitely play some cap the flag with some people.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Malocide on February 19, 2007, 04:51:29 PM
Can I play woth my Jappanes Pokemon than sure. I dont understan what there doing but hey.

I would love to compeat I will proably buy the english veriosn so I will just use that.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Heartbreak_despair on March 11, 2007, 12:46:16 AM
damn it....rare candy doesn't work anymore since missing no evolved into wikipedia...
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Zekke on March 19, 2007, 07:16:42 AM
Yes! Just got a DS and put money on Diamond. Now the only question is how to get lvl 100's by con :x

We really need lower lvl tournaments, like 10-20, etc, like Shinigami said. other than that, Im totally up for it.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: serajwl on March 23, 2007, 08:01:11 AM
Hmm, I think I could participate. I could just play constantly. Too bad it's not coming out earlier, I could have been able to oplay it over spring break *sad*
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: shortpachoo on March 23, 2007, 01:58:31 PM
I wouldn't mind participating in this as well.  Also it would be nice to have different lvl tournaments
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Sygmus on April 01, 2007, 05:28:06 PM
Just pre-ordered Pokemon Pearl last week!  I would love being in a tournament, seeing as I've never been in one before.  In about five weeks, and taking finals into account, I'll probably get my pokemon to the 30s or 40s by con time.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: mDuo13 on April 03, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
Even though I'm really broke, I'm going to have to get this game.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: G.I.R on April 22, 2007, 05:41:05 PM
Okay.  So who got their copy today (and which version)?

Edit:Forgot to post mine.  Got Diamond on Sunday.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Thoth on April 22, 2007, 09:30:49 PM
I got Pearl.

We need a Friend code exchange.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: swordmanjoe on April 22, 2007, 09:46:15 PM
i got pearl to
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: abcbadcat on April 24, 2007, 12:28:25 AM
I got Diamond.

Im sooooo down for a tourney!!!

My highest level so far is 43
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Heartbreak_despair on April 24, 2007, 11:51:15 AM
I gots me Diamond
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: swordmanjoe on April 24, 2007, 05:16:07 PM
dang 43?! My highest right now is like 18... lol
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Zekke on April 24, 2007, 08:33:06 PM
*Huff huff* must... keep...training...!
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: trupnoi on April 26, 2007, 04:42:07 AM
man you guys are pro... barely got mine yesterday :P i'm horrible i'll see what i can do to level them up before the con....
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: mDuo13 on April 26, 2007, 12:04:54 PM
Got about 19 hours in so far, my highest level pokemon is about level 35, most are only about 30. I don't think most (if any) of these Pokémon are going to be in my competitive team, though. We shall see. Right now I'm just rushing through the gym badges and whatnot trying to find my way to a place I can powerlevel - then I'll go back, get all the crap that I missed, and train a real team.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Jun-Watarase on April 26, 2007, 12:30:46 PM
OMGGGG. Time for grinding!!!
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: swordmanjoe on April 28, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
if anyone wants to exchange Fc's mines 5455-5870-3324
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Knightfire on April 29, 2007, 07:25:19 PM
I'm up for it : ) Also up for Tourney brackets like those found in Pokemon Stadium  :o
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Zekke on April 29, 2007, 07:47:15 PM
ok I know someone told me this before but I cant remember, where do I go to get my own FC?

also what are some of the nick names you've given ure pokemon?

Luxray - Lux
Snover - Squatch
Gible - Nible
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: lying is an art form on April 29, 2007, 09:32:46 PM
Pearl, been power leveling and rushing through the entire game. I'll settle down and like actually EV train and whatever after I beat E4
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: swordmanjoe on April 29, 2007, 09:56:26 PM
your friend code's in palpad (in your key items)
Torrtera-Philbert
Kricketune-Jimmeny
Luxray-Kimba
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Ska_Kitti on April 29, 2007, 11:15:03 PM
I'm pondering the idea of the entire gathering going spelunking in the cave to meet 32 people for something... anyone catch the drift? :]
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: swordmanjoe on April 29, 2007, 11:44:48 PM
i can dig it
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Zekke on April 30, 2007, 06:48:47 PM
Thats a good idea.*Grabs helmet* To the underground!
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: trupnoi on May 01, 2007, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: "Ska_Kitti"I'm pondering the idea of the entire gathering going spelunking in the cave to meet 32 people for something... anyone catch the drift? :]

oh hellz yeah i'm down there lol...

i'm gonna try to wander around the con with Link Searcher always on lol...
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Zekke on May 02, 2007, 09:54:57 PM
So how is everyones training going? As of right now, Im probably going to be in the tourny with the high 50's Low 60's by con time. yea im not much of a power lvler but it'll do for now.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Jehuty on May 10, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
Training's tough...I heart the E4 for Power Leveling, though...My guys are holding around level 55 average.

I'm all for the spelunking for 32 ppl, as I REALLY want that stupid Spiritomb...
Need to get ready for this though, go my red Gyarados, go!
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: mDuo13 on May 11, 2007, 04:02:48 PM
My team was in shambles recently, but I'm getting closer to having the real deal for con time.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: M on May 11, 2007, 04:39:05 PM
I just hope someone doesn't try to cheat when you all play. I've seen Pokemon online with all max stats and only lv 3. Nintendo supposedly has a filter to prevent this, but this person obviously got around it.

And you should be able to tell if someone's cheat (max stats, etc.), but there are ways that you can cheat without it being obvious. :(
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Blue Impulse on May 13, 2007, 05:27:55 PM
Capture the Flag anyone ? :D
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Chpal on May 14, 2007, 04:26:03 PM
Capture the flag? I heard about that. how does that game work in the games?
currently my team is only lvl 25-30ish, hopefully ill become stronger before the con
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: CompyFranko on May 15, 2007, 11:20:54 AM
A Pokemon tournament?  Awesome, I'm there.  My friends and I have been playing competitively for years now.  You know you'll see me there.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 15, 2007, 03:26:32 PM
Uh, you guys know if you play online you can set your levels to 50 or 100, which means everyone can battle with everyone.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: CompyFranko on May 18, 2007, 07:14:18 AM
The only way to set levels to 50 or 100 automatically is to play over a wireless network connected to the internet.  It is doubtful that there will be a network at the con we can just tap into.  I have been trying to create a portable wireless network, but it has proven difficult so far, and requires something otaku don't have a lot of: cash.

edit

I just heard that San Jose has city wide wi-fi access.  I'm not sure if its true, but if it is, I might be able to tap into it and get a wi-fi network going for us.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 18, 2007, 11:27:49 AM
great I got my DS and pearl on tuesday...and I only have 6 badges Dx And I have 7 days to get my lvl 100 pokemon O.O NOT GOOD DX
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 18, 2007, 11:28:04 AM
great I got my DS and pearl on tuesday...and I only have 6 badges Dx And I have 7 days to get my lvl 100 pokemon O.O NOT GOOD DX
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: trupnoi on May 18, 2007, 02:45:11 PM
i've been migrating alot of my O.D. [read not Hacked] Pokemon... which we should be able to use right?!
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: abcbadcat on May 18, 2007, 04:27:59 PM
Not all of downtown san jose has wifi and the wifi must be compatable with the DS which isn't always the fact.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Magical Senpai on May 20, 2007, 07:16:04 PM
Anyone up for a massive Underground party? I need to meet 28 more people until I can go into that one place where you can catch Spiritomb. I'm also good for a massive CTF match as well.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Blue Impulse on May 20, 2007, 10:22:19 PM
Is this gonna be like... official tourney style... I.E. No banned characters, this includes, legendaries and some others, I can't remember which but I believe wabofet ..... thats all I can remember haha
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Kanzake on May 21, 2007, 10:16:43 PM
rules please? >.o i trained my Legendaries (only palkia and dialga) to 100... and if theyre banned i needa quickly swap em out of my party for some mid lvl chars
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: trupnoi on May 22, 2007, 11:16:45 AM
this sounds pretty accurate to me:

# You are not to have the same item held by more than one Pokemon on your team.
# No one hit KO moves are permitted.
# You are not allowed to use more than one Pokemon of the same species.  For example, you can't have two Metagross' on the same team etc.
# Double Team and Minimize are banned.
# Action Replay or Gameshark Stat "Benefitters" are not allowed.  For example, Metagross's Max Attack is 405, His attack should not be over that mark.
# The Battle will be a 6 on 6 Double Battle (For Strategy Reasons.)  Pokemon are encouraged to be on Level 100.
# Once you know who your opponent is, contact them and link up.
# No Legendary Pokemon are allowed, even Trio Pokemon including Lati@s.  Here is a List for an example:
Zapados
Articuno
Moltres
Mewtwo
Mew
Suicune
Entei
Raikou
Lugia
Ho-oh
Celebi
Latios
Latias
Regirock
Registeel
Regice
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys
Mesprit
Uxie
Azelf
Dialga
Palkia
Heatran
Regigigas
Giratina
Cresselia
Phione
Manaphy
Shaymin
Darkrai
Arceus
Wobbuffet
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 22, 2007, 11:29:04 AM
Dude....You cant ban Minimize and Double team >.> No offense but thats just a dumb idea....If you did that you know what you would possibly see more of?
Garchomp+Sandstorm....Or in double battles, Garchomp+That one hippo pokemon that casts sandstorm when it comes out.
And I think you should be able to hold the same item with more then one pokemon
btw I think it should also be pokemon stadium style. You list 6 pokemon that you are going to use. And when you challenge your opponent, you use only 3 out of those 6 pokemon. And to help determine what pokemon you are going to use, you may look at your opponent's roaster of 6 and then determine the best 3 pokemon that you have that would stand up to his possible selection of 3
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: rctan9 on May 22, 2007, 04:24:24 PM
These are the standard rules people see online, and a small example on each.

Standard Wi-Fi Rules
- Species Clause ONE Pokemon of any given number per team.
- No Ubers Ubers are Pokemon with MASSIVE stats. They are often deemed unfair.

   #150 Mewtwo
   #151 Mew
   #202 Wobbuffet
   #249 Lugia
   #250 Ho-oh
   #360 Wynaut
   #380 Latias
   #381 Latios
   #382 Kyogre
   #383 Groudon
   #384 Rayquaza
   #386 Deoxys (All forms)
   #483 Dialga
   #484 Palkia
   #487 Giratina
   #491 Darkrai
   #493 Arceus

Evade clause Moves like Double Team are banned, as they are REALLY annoying.

Sleep Clause You are only allowed to put one Opponent Pokemon to sleep (or freeze) at any given time. REST DOES NOT COUNT, if you use Rest, switch, and they put another of your Pokemon to sleep, you used Rest, not the problem of your opponent.

Self KO Clause Only 1 Pokemon may use a Suicide combo (such as Explosion or a combo with Perish song). Also if you cause a double KO with an above said move on the last Pokemon standing, YOU LOSE.
Generally banned Items Focus Band, Quick Claw, Brightpowder

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Use these rules. They are the MOST FAIR rules and it's pretty much unarguable.

If there is Wifi and lvl 50/100 adjust, I'm in. If not, I don't have 6 level 100's so I will just spectate and trade
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: rctan9 on May 22, 2007, 04:25:20 PM
whoops double post
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 23, 2007, 12:16:34 AM
Yes and from there we'll get the legendary dogs, birds, the psychic trio of celebi, mew, and jirachi and yeah...So...
-No Legendaries
-No using 2 of the same pokemon
The rest should be legal -_- Except for the Ko part which is something I agree with
However if they are using things like Double Team and what not, you should be using things such as swift, and shockwave to hit them...
It should be pokemon stadium rules!
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Smikey on May 23, 2007, 12:19:16 AM
Quote from: "rctan9"
Use these rules. They are the MOST FAIR rules and it's pretty much unarguable.

If there is Wifi and lvl 50/100 adjust, I'm in. If not, I don't have 6 level 100's so I will just spectate and trade

Oh, it's arguable. Sad to say this is how my first post has to end out...Seriously, for instance, banning quick claw. Guess what this means, slower pokemon have to go last, and it gives the opponent the chance to OHKO them, with their weakness or an attack that does x4 not even counting STAB.

The Sleep Clause, is pretty lame too. Some peoples teams rely on status affects. It also takes the fun out of a team, it makes people rethink there strategies to what if's and makes people so a lot of strategizing...

QuoteAlso if you cause a double KO with an above said move on the last Pokemon standing, YOU LOSE.

One word. Lame. It is part of the game, you are basically turning the game into most powerful pokemon wins contest and not best strategy. Lol, the newbies shall flow.

EDIT:

I think Asa_Gohan has the best idea for the team selection, Select 6 then out of that 6 use 3 and you have to use it the entire tournament. Then, No using 2 of the same pokemon, then not banning Double Team and the such, and bringing a team with Swift and Shockwave. Makes it more fun.

But, the list of Ubers/Legendaries that rctan9 posted should be enforced and none of them be allowed to be on any team.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 23, 2007, 12:33:15 AM
Again Stadium Rules ftw ^^ and yes this enforces the no legendaries rule because yeah I have to agree that legendaries are over powered....However they are legendaries for a reason...
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Smikey on May 23, 2007, 12:50:10 AM
Yes, they are. There are a few legendaries which are total crap tho...Regigigas anyone?
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: lying is an art form on May 23, 2007, 12:53:52 AM
rctan9's rules aren't lame, they're standard and what most people deem fair.

If you have a problem with slower Pokemon going last, use the move that makes slower Pokemon go first. AND it's your fault for not EV training them properly if you're worried for their speed.

Relying on status effects means you pretty much don't have the skills to train your Pokemon correctly.

How is losing because of a double KO lame? Would you prefer a draw? Draws are lame. Again you're relying on cheap tactics to win.

The idea is we ban ALL evasion tactics. Do you know how annoying it is to try and hit a mofo with six Double Team layers? AND I don't think we all carry roasters in our pockets to show each other before a Pokemon battle.

The official Wi-Fi rules should be followed because if you're joining to play in this tournament, you might as well be prepped for online battles.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: mDuo13 on May 23, 2007, 01:21:14 AM
There was a big, long debate about double team on GameFAQs, and the general concensus is that it makes matches just stupid boring. Especially when you can Baton Pass your evasion on to another pokemon (Umbreon is the case in this category). With items like Leftovers out there, pokemon can survive basically indefinitely; even when both players run out of PP, they might be able to keep going. And that's not fun. Sure, there are moves like Swift, Shockwave, Aerial Ace, and Aura Sphere that can get through evasion, but those moves are weak compared to similar moves in their types, and therefore you create three types of teams: Double Team, Anti-Double Team, and Normal (neither). Double Team beats Normal, Anti-Double Team beats Double Team, and Normal beats Anti-Double Team, which basically converts the entire tournament into a huge game of rock-paper-scissors. "More fun?" I think not.

Just like why Wobbuffet is considered an uber even though his stats aren't that amazing: Wynaut -> Wobbufet means that he can have Encore; combine that with Shadow Tag and you can trap an opponent into a situation where he literally CANNOT do anything, even switch out, and continue to do so for turn after turn. Just not fun.

rctan9 has the right idea and his rules should be followed.

More importantly however, when is this tournament going to be held?
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Smikey on May 23, 2007, 01:29:21 AM
Quote from: "lying is an art form"rctan9's rules aren't lame, they're standard and what most people deem fair.

If you have a problem with slower Pokemon going last, use the move that makes slower Pokemon go first. AND it's your fault for not EV training them properly if you're worried for their speed.

Relying on status effects means you pretty much don't have the skills to train your Pokemon correctly.

How is losing because of a double KO lame? Would you prefer a draw? Draws are lame. Again you're relying on cheap tactics to win.

The idea is we ban ALL evasion tactics. Do you know how annoying it is to try and hit a mofo with six Double Team layers? AND I don't think we all carry roasters in our pockets to show each other before a Pokemon battle.

The official Wi-Fi rules should be followed because if you're joining to play in this tournament, you might as well be prepped for online battles.

Slower pokemon can be EV trained for speed, what if the opponent did the same thing. Not gonna matter, slow pokemon are naturally slow, regardless of extra Stat Boosts.

Setting up Status effects take skill. Again, you are proving my point that only power matters. Prepare your team with berries to avoid certain status's.

Losing to a Double KO's is part of the game, if you are down to one pokemon and the opponent has one or more than you if you guys are equal skill then chances are you are gonna lose anyways.

Double Team, more reason for people to run Swift and the such.

No one carries Roster's sure, but if you are gonna have a tourney have a reg process, with like binder paper with people showing the team, and if someone has a complaint of someone using a legendary, ask to see their team, then check their boxes and then ask the accuser what the level of the legendary was and what attacks it had. Simple. It may be a slight hassle, but it stops Legendary users.

QuoteJust like why Wobbuffet is considered an uber even though his stats aren't that amazing: Wynaut -> Wobbufet means that he can have Encore; combine that with Shadow Tag and you can trap an opponent into a situation where he literally CANNOT do anything, even switch out, and continue to do so for turn after turn. Just not fun.

Which is why is on the Uber/Banned list, which probably be enforced.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 23, 2007, 01:35:35 AM
Quote from: "Smikey"Yes, they are. There are a few legendaries which are total crap tho...Regigigas anyone?
Wait what? Regigigas isnt crap...He has the 12th best stats out of all the pokemon in the game >.>
btw
Im for the double KO rule
The no legendaries rule
and I guess now Im against the double team rule...
though Im still against the banning of items
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Smikey on May 23, 2007, 01:46:21 AM
Quote from: "Asa_Gohan"
Quote from: "Smikey"Yes, they are. There are a few legendaries which are total crap tho...Regigigas anyone?
Wait what? Regigigas isnt crap...He has the 12th best stats out of all the pokemon in the game >.>
btw
Im for the double KO rule
The no legendaries rule
and I guess now Im against the double team rule...
though Im still against the banning of items

He isn't good, for a Legendary. He isn't even on the Uber list. :P

Double Team isn't that bad. It can get annoying. But, hey all the attacks are part of the game.

The item banning is bull though. As for the no doubles of items, I find that sort of lame, but I can see why it would be banned.

Double KO, if it's the last pokemon, I can see that, and if it's Double Battle that is even lamer. But, we should make this tourney move faster. Stadium rules.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: lying is an art form on May 23, 2007, 01:57:03 AM
Quote from: "Smikey"
Quote from: "lying is an art form"rctan9's rules aren't lame, they're standard and what most people deem fair.

If you have a problem with slower Pokemon going last, use the move that makes slower Pokemon go first. AND it's your fault for not EV training them properly if you're worried for their speed.

Relying on status effects means you pretty much don't have the skills to train your Pokemon correctly.

How is losing because of a double KO lame? Would you prefer a draw? Draws are lame. Again you're relying on cheap tactics to win.

The idea is we ban ALL evasion tactics. Do you know how annoying it is to try and hit a mofo with six Double Team layers? AND I don't think we all carry roasters in our pockets to show each other before a Pokemon battle.

The official Wi-Fi rules should be followed because if you're joining to play in this tournament, you might as well be prepped for online battles.

Slower pokemon can be EV trained for speed, what if the opponent did the same thing. Not gonna matter, slow pokemon are naturally slow, regardless of extra Stat Boosts.

Setting up Status effects take skill. Again, you are proving my point that only power matters. Prepare your team with berries to avoid certain status's.

Losing to a Double KO's is part of the game, if you are down to one pokemon and the opponent has one or more than you if you guys are equal skill then chances are you are gonna lose anyways.

Double Team, more reason for people to run Swift and the such.

No one carries Roster's sure, but if you are gonna have a tourney have a reg process, with like binder paper with people showing the team, and if someone has a complaint of someone using a legendary, ask to see their team, then check their boxes and then ask the accuser what the level of the legendary was and what attacks it had. Simple. It may be a slight hassle, but it stops Legendary users.

QuoteJust like why Wobbuffet is considered an uber even though his stats aren't that amazing: Wynaut -> Wobbufet means that he can have Encore; combine that with Shadow Tag and you can trap an opponent into a situation where he literally CANNOT do anything, even switch out, and continue to do so for turn after turn. Just not fun.

I said roAsters, not rosters. I'm not the one with spelling problems here.
Which is why is on the Uber/Banned list, which probably be enforced.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 23, 2007, 02:00:51 AM
pst...
http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/all.shtml
he has the 12th highest base...the worst one is Rotom, that one new grass pokemon, and Azlef
btw no OHKOs?
EDIT: Oops spelling Error >.>
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Smikey on May 23, 2007, 02:08:20 AM
Oh, my bad. But, what I said applies anyway :P XD
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: rctan9 on May 23, 2007, 12:57:28 PM
Couple things:


The rules I listed are not made by me. It is the rules that I copied and pasted from major pokemon sites (Serebii and Smogon), and it is the same rules that are used in major online tournaments.

Items such as Quick Claw and Focus Band are generally looked down upon because they are COMPLETELY based off of luck. The chances of them activating are like… 10%, which luck would need to be on your side to occur anyways. There are NEW items in D/P that are MUCH better anyways. Focus SASH GUARANTEES that you have 1 HP left IF you you had full HP prior to the attack. Choice Scarf also increases speed by 1.5x, and for slower pokemon you can actually outspeed some of the mainstream pokes.

Besides, it’s not like ALL slow pokemon are bad. That’s not even CLOSE to the case. If there is an obvious 4x weakness or something, SWITCH. It’s an option that’s available to you… I have a Camerupt on the field, my opponent sends out Empoleon. Hmmm, I wonder what move he’s going to use? I think I’ll switch to my Venasuar who will eat that STAB surf for breakfast. Of course that’s a VERY broad scenario, but you get the idea. If you honestly believe pokemon are in jeopardy because they can’t attack first, then well… you’re wrong.

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Ok, I’ve come up with a COMPRIMISE tournament, with custom Fanime Rules. Of course It’s free to be changed as I am by no means the “leader” of this thing, but I think it should make the majority of people satisfied.

Fanime Con 2007 Pokemon D/P Tournament:[/b]

Format:

6v6 or 3v3 (your vote)

-6v6 OPEN LEVEL (If there is Wifi available, then it will be 6v6 lvl 100 adjustment).
or…
-3v3 OPEN LEVEL - Stadium Rules (if Wifi available, lvl 100 adjustment is applied)
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Single Elmination or Swiss Rounds+Cut into top 4. (your vote or your additional suggestions)

For Swiss we can do a point base system, where a win gets you X points, a loss gets you Y points and a draw gets you Z points.

Then at the end of 3 or so battles the top 4 people with highest points go into a single elimination for the #1 spot.
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Prize: To be determined. We can do in game items (such as power items, choice items, masterball, rare candy(s)), legendary pokemon, or we can charge entrance fee and do cash prize. Up to you guys.
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-All teams MUST be registered on a piece of paper prior to the tournament.

Write one roster out for tournament head, and one out for yourself/your opponent to see AFTER the match if they feel you were cheating in any way. (if you want to show them prior to the battle then my ALL means go ahead lol)

You should list your pokemon as follows:

Pokemon (level)@ Item
Nature
Individual Stats (HP/Atk/Def/Sp.Atk/Sp.Def/Speed)
-Move 1
-Move 2
-Move 3
-Move 4


So an example would be….

Charizard lvl 100@ Salac Berry
Adamant
100/200/300/400/500/600 (of course these stats are fake)
-Belly Drum
-Earthquake
-Rockslide
-Substitute

upon any suspition of ANYTHING, you are allowed to compare roster with actual pokes.

Item Restrictions:
-ONE lucksack item per team. This includes Quick Claw/Focus Band/Brightpowder etc. You cannot have one pokemon hold Quick Claw and another hold Focus Band. It’s ONE of these items per team.

-Up to TWO non restricted Items. i.e. up to two Pokemon can hold leftovers, but only ONE can hold Quick Claw.

*if anyone feels that more items should be restricted/banned, discuss.

Move Restriction:

-ONE pokemon per team can have double team OR minimize.

*up for debate: The pokemon who DOES have double team CANNOT have BATON PASS as well.

-ONE pokemon can have Explosion, Self Destruct OR Perish Song

Pokemon Restrictions:

-Species Clause: ONE pokemon of any given number per team. However, if you want Charmander AND Charizard on your team, that’s fine…. But it’s your funeral…

-No UBERS: Once again here is the uber list… it cannot be changed.

#150 Mewtwo
#151 Mew
#202 Wobbuffet
#249 Lugia
#250 Ho-oh
#360 Wynaut
#380 Latias
#381 Latios
#382 Kyogre
#383 Groudon
#384 Rayquaza
#386 Deoxys (All forms)
#483 Dialga
#484 Palkia
#487 Giratina
#491 Darkrai
#493 Arceus

-*I believe that Arcues is not even obtainable at this point of time without cheating.

-The Dogs, Birds, Regis and… Azelf/Uxie/Mespirit, Jirachi, Manaphy, Celebi and Shaymin are NOT UBERS. Jirachi and Manaphy are restricted by their very limited and predictable movepool and Celebi has horrible typing. When these pokemon are compared to pokes such as Tyranitar, Salamence, Dragonite, Metagross along with other "standards" they are balanced in terms of base stats, typing and movepool. Not to mention that Blissey can beat 75% of non Uber legendaries.

BUT... because some people see legendaries as overpowered and unfair no matter the circumstances, for this tournament, the following rule will be applied.

-ONE NON-UBER LEGENDARY PER TEAM.
This team is ok-to-go: Charizard/Rhyperior/Blissey/Weavile/Torterra/Suicune

where as this team is a big NO: Suicune/Raikou/Moltres/Celebi/Jirachi/Regice.

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*HERE IS A LIST OF ALL EVENT POKEMON AND THEIR ORIGINAL ID and OT.

http://www.serebii.net/games/events-pkmn.shtml

use this if you suspect your opponent to be using hacked legendaries.
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Ok, so those are my suggestions. Once again, I acknowledge that I have no right to just barge in and make all the rules, but I think it’s a fair compromise based on the posts that I have read.

The MOST IMPORTANT THING however, is setting up a time and location, as well as a list of those who wish to enter.

Suggestions on that anyone?

* oh yes and I am available on wifi for practice matches in the next couple days. I don’t use legendaries, lucksack items OR double team just pm me to play.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Smikey on May 23, 2007, 03:26:43 PM
The rules seem decent. When I have more time I will look them over, but from what I saw very nice. ;)
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 23, 2007, 10:46:11 PM
@rctan9
Well then..you got a focus sash I can borrow =D
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Blue Impulse on May 23, 2007, 10:54:22 PM
I'm glad I mentioned that shit, but my pokemon are definetly not the types or levels I want them to be at yet, i'll just have fun in the underrgound :D
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: abcbadcat on May 23, 2007, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: "Blue Impulse"I'm glad I mentioned that shit, but my pokemon are definetly not the types or levels I want them to be at yet, i'll just have fun in the underrgound :D
BLUE IMPULSE IS LAME!

LOL sup Taylor. BTW im going this year.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: abcbadcat on May 23, 2007, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: "Blue Impulse"I'm glad I mentioned that shit, but my pokemon are definetly not the types or levels I want them to be at yet, i'll just have fun in the underrgound :D
BLUE IMPULSE IS LAME!

LOL sup Taylor. BTW im going this year.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: rctan9 on May 23, 2007, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: "Asa_Gohan"@rctan9
Well then..you got a focus sash I can borrow =D

Yes I do. I'll give it to you before the tournament if there is one.

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If nobody disagrees with the tournament rules then I guess we can start a sign up sheet here.

Time and place suggestions anyone?
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: abcbadcat on May 23, 2007, 11:21:28 PM
I would join but I haven't had much time to play since finals end tomorrow and I have been doing school work for the past two weeks straight.

I even had the game before most people due to my M3 Simply... and I only have my 6th badge

T_T
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: rctan9 on May 24, 2007, 12:49:14 AM
Quote from: "abcbadcat"I would join but I haven't had much time to play since finals end tomorrow and I have been doing school work for the past two weeks straight.

I even had the game before most people due to my M3 Simply... and I only have my 6th badge

T_T

Well if there is Wifi at con then all your pokemon will be adjusted to level 100 for the tournament, so you just need to TM some moves onto your pokemon as you see fits.

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I might arrange something in which I give people some items/tm's prior to the tournament seeing as how I have a lot of stuff that I can share, I've traded well over 300 times on wifi so I have a lot.
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Blue Impulse on May 24, 2007, 06:33:16 AM
Quote from: "rctan9"
Quote from: "abcbadcat"I would join but I haven't had much time to play since finals end tomorrow and I have been doing school work for the past two weeks straight.

I even had the game before most people due to my M3 Simply... and I only have my 6th badge

T_T

Well if there is Wifi at con then all your pokemon will be adjusted to level 100 for the tournament, so you just need to TM some moves onto your pokemon as you see fits.

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I might arrange something in which I give people some items/tm's prior to the tournament seeing as how I have a lot of stuff that I can share, I've traded well over 300 times on wifi so I have a lot.


Holy crap I didn't know that... Thats awesome! Too bad all my pokes' have crappy HMs on them right now. Making the super team comes after I can farm the E4 :P


Drewbadcatfool! Look forward to seein ya man, you should have hit me up when I was living in RWC, but now i'm back in windsor lol
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Blue Impulse on May 24, 2007, 06:57:48 AM
Quote from: "rctan9"
Quote from: "abcbadcat"I would join but I haven't had much time to play since finals end tomorrow and I have been doing school work for the past two weeks straight.

I even had the game before most people due to my M3 Simply... and I only have my 6th badge

T_T

Well if there is Wifi at con then all your pokemon will be adjusted to level 100 for the tournament, so you just need to TM some moves onto your pokemon as you see fits.

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I might arrange something in which I give people some items/tm's prior to the tournament seeing as how I have a lot of stuff that I can share, I've traded well over 300 times on wifi so I have a lot.


Holy crap I didn't know that... Thats awesome! Too bad all my pokes' have crappy HMs on them right now. Making the super team comes after I can farm the E4 :P


Drewbadcatfool! Look forward to seein ya man, you should have hit me up when I was living in RWC, but now i'm back in windsor lol
Title: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournamet @ Fanime 2007
Post by: Zekke on May 25, 2007, 10:10:12 AM
Hey where is the room for this gonna be? Is it in a seperate room from all the other games or what?