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Title: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on May 31, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
Please Use this thread only for feedback for the 2011 Dance and suggestions for 2012, so that it can directed to the right people.

Good afternoon. As the 2011 FanimeCon Dance Co-Head, I am looking to get more productive
feedback about our 2011 event and soliciting suggestions for next year.  The 2012 Dance head
has not been selected yet; this feedback will be provided to the 2012 staff(so past efforts
won't be wasted).

Basic Information (what people may not know):
- The 2011 Dance was held in 2 locations, The Hilton Market Room and the J Ballroom of the
  convention center.
- The dance started earlier to accomodate additional DJs.
- The budget for the dance was (is) significantly limited to covering the substantial cost of the tech
  and facilities of the J (since we need to use Union approved equipment suppliers and contractors)
- DJs, Staff, and volunteers are not paid, but their badge/membership/liability coverage represents
  a cost to con.
- DJ equipment in the J Ballroom and Hilton Market Room for provided for use by the co-head of dance.
- Sound and Lighting equipment in the Hilton Market Room were provided for use without cash payment
  and at the owner's risk.

Feedback Area 1 (Multiple Rooms)

Lessons learned from this year were that
- the Hilton Market room draws people if promoted, but is still too far from the main con floor
   to draw enough people to make it truly successful
- The Hilton Market room opened too early and represented more of a nuisance to restaraunt patrons
   than a benefit to the con attendees.

Specific Questions:
- Should there continue to be multiple dance rooms?
- Should it return to being Hip Hop/Top 40s only or 18+?
- Why did/didn't you check out the Hilton Market Room in 2011?

Feedback Area 2 (Headliners)

Lessons learned from this year were that
- Headliners must represent a fiscal benefit to the con (meaning the draw or return must be a
   direct reflection of an increased number of attendees who come to con to see this guest rather
   than regular attendees.
- If people want headliners (like hardcore synergy/red alice/etc) they must provide that direct
   feedback to upper-con management through the form of a suggestion card at con or feedback emails.

Specific Questions:
- How will a headliner DJ benefit the con (not the dance)?
- Why should money be spent on a headliner dj versus an anime-related panel guest or musicfest artist?

Feedback Area 3 (Misc)
What improvements from the previous years' dances to you like?
what changes did you not like?
what other fedback can you provide?
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: abcbadcat on May 31, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
LESS HARDSTYLE

MORE Electro/House/Dubstep


PLEASEEEE



Also, not being able to use small/regular sized glowsticks in the dance was terrible :\
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on May 31, 2011, 04:09:59 PM
>Also, not being able to use small/regular sized glowsticks in the dance was terrible :\

This was a miscommunication on Sat. Glowsticks were allowed back in on Sunday
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: abcbadcat on May 31, 2011, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: eHash on May 31, 2011, 04:09:59 PM
>Also, not being able to use small/regular sized glowsticks in the dance was terrible :\

This was a miscommunication on Sat. Glowsticks were allowed back in on Sunday


Oh it was just Saturday that happened? Being sore and assuming I would not being able to use my glow sticks kept me from going back to the dance on Sunday


And since this is the feedback thread, I'll respond to you from the other topic here as well

Quote from: eHashwhen we solicited feedback for 2010, most people said NO Dubstep, Asian Pop, HipHop/Top40s.
I went out on a limb this year booking Asian Pop, playing HipHop/Top40s...
If I'm on the dance staff for 2012 I promise we'll be looking into dubstep again.

The dubstep scene from 2010 to 2011 has grown significantly. I do agree that a full hour of dubstep is over kill but a mixture with some DnB, other styles, or a dubstep remix of an anime song or more well known electronic track would be very much appreciated.

I personally would not be a fan of Hip Hop/Top40s for the Fanime dance as it's more of an electronic feel. If some perfume or an SNSD remix played, I would be very hype for that. Also, electro/house would probably mesh very well with the style/feel of Fanime and the Fanime dance.


I do not have DJ equipment but I do "DJ" for SJSU's radio station, KSJS, and play electronic music. I wish I had the equipment and skill to DJ for the dance but hopefully I can apply for Fanime 2013 (or maybe even learn Virtual DJ/Traktor like a pro by the end of the summer. Would a strictly laptop "DJ/mixer" be allowed?
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: lonemeditater on May 31, 2011, 05:36:55 PM
I know dubstep was already mentioned here, but I feel the need to mention it again, for emphasis. I was a little disappointed to go raving twice without hearing any dubstep. I also didn't hear much asian pop, which I was kind of expecting, but I guess that's my fault for assuming things.
First FanimeCon raves, I was dissapoint -_-...
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: kookiekween99 on May 31, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
I went to the smaller room on Saturday at around 5-ish... I felt scared at first because it was so bright in there and there were only like, two people on the floor. I was like, "OMG. Everyone's going to be looking at me with me poor shuffling skills. >_<" So I invited some of my friends in, and I felt a little more comfortable.

I knew I was a little dehydrated beforehand, so I made sure to try and drink a lot of water. And I mean a lot. Big mistake. After half an hour (I can usually dance for at least an hour, no problem), I got really tired and had to sit down. My friends asked if I was okay, and I said I wasn't quite sure. After a few minutes of resting, I felt really nauseous. My friends decided to help me back to our room. We were heading toward the elevator, but I didn't think I would make it.

I saw a trash can next to the drinking station in the lobby, and I decided to throw up in it rather than in the elevator. I immediately felt better after I threw up, but my friends insisted I go upstairs to lay down anyway. One friend helped me upstairs while the other searched for a member of either Hilton or Fanime staff to inform about the trash can so it could be changed rather than just sit there and smell.


Another note about when I went on Saturday: There was no one at the door. I wasn't quite sure I was in the right place because there was no one there to check my badge. I get that there was only a handful of people there, but I still felt like there should have been someone there. When I went back on Sunday, there was someone there.

When I was looking for the Market Room, Info Desk by the Hilton and Maid Cafe told me it was in the Hilton somewhere and that it didn't start until 7. Pretty vague. >_>; I knew he was wrong about the time since I had the schedule printed out back in my room, but I said thank you and walked off to try and find it myself. After I got very lost, I went back and asked the very same person, and he told me it was down in the Hilton lobby, which was a bit more helpful. He tried to tell me once again that it didn't start until 7, so then I showed him on the schedule right in front of him that it did indeed start at 4. I found it kinda sad that I knew more than him, but I didn't really make a big issue out of it.


I went back to the Market Room Dance on Sunday around 11, and I had a blast. My friend and I stayed until the end of Dark0's set. He played at least two S3RL songs, which made me freak out with joy. ;D We made sure to rest when we were tired and only take in as much water as we needed. I did not want a repeat of the previous night. We had so much fun, with no bad incidents. I wanted to request a song, but I didn't know if Dark0 took requests, plus I'm really shy, so I didn't.


Overall, what I saw of the Dance was a pretty fun experience, aside from making myself sick. My friends thought I was crazy because I wanted to get back in there. :P "But there's so many epic beats I'm missing at this very moment!"


Oh yeah, and I just want to add in some defense of Hardstyle/Hardcore/Happy Hardcore/etc. I love it so much! <3


Sorry for all the text here! I just wanted to share my experience! :3
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: questionette on May 31, 2011, 08:32:57 PM
I LOVED the dances.  There were a few djs that didn't bring as much oomf as they could have, but all in all I had a fun time.  Especially after getting a pair of gloves from the dealer's room :D  I do think more electro/house could have been played, since those are the dance genres that a lot of ravers are used to in the scene, but I honestly can't complain too hard because I was able to dance for five hours straight and forget about time all together.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: DJ Reign on May 31, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
In the defense of Electro House not being played or lack thereof, I played it for 2 straight hours in the Market room Friday night from 12am - 2am, and I played some more on Sunday between 7pm - 10pm.

Also, it's kind of hard to make a case for dubstep by saying that it's on the rise when damn near everyone I talk to about dubstep either dislikes it, hates it, or can't stand 5 minutes of it.  And I talk to A LOT of people.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on May 31, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
thanks reign!
electro house and asian pop both had a lot of hours.  people complain..but look at the schedule.
unlike other departments..our schedule was printed on page 26 (the centerfold) of the program guide.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: questionette on June 01, 2011, 12:44:43 AM
Hey I was wondering...who were the guys taking pictures at the dance? They got quite a few of me and I'm interested in seeing them :P
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: Skyline on June 01, 2011, 12:59:50 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 31, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
LESS HARDSTYLE

I actually disagree.  Everyone needs to get a little hardcore once in a while :3
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on June 01, 2011, 01:00:10 AM
the photographers were officially with the dance so I couldn't tell you.  check the member posted photo galleries.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: Aeredon on June 01, 2011, 11:08:53 AM
Would like more dubstep, dnb, and MOOMBAH!
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: abcbadcat on June 01, 2011, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: Skyline on June 01, 2011, 12:59:50 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 31, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
LESS HARDSTYLE

I actually disagree.  Everyone needs to get a little hardcore once in a while :3

Happy hardcore is legit :P
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: Skyline on June 01, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: kookiekween99 on May 31, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
After half an hour (I can usually dance for at least an hour, no problem), I got really tired and had to sit down. My friends asked if I was okay, and I said I wasn't quite sure. After a few minutes of resting, I felt really nauseous. My friends decided to help me back to our room. We were heading toward the elevator, but I didn't think I would make it.

This is no joke, folks.  I experienced this myself, both at con and at various rave events.  Once that adrenaline dies down it's a runaway train, you'd be surprised how fast that crash is.  Even five minutes of cooldown time makes a big difference.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: GoodAsianDriver on June 01, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
I was asked not to play any dubstep but I played some here and there-- especially when you fanboys asked for it (sorry, Erik. ;p). As a Dj during those moments, it was clear the crowd wasn't digging the dubstep. I think what we may be able to do in the future is to introduce wobbles for 20 second shifts if the dj is skilled enough, and then get the regular kick-snare thumping again so as not to loose people from the floor. Though I'm not sure if those 20 second shifts are long enough for the dubstep fanboys. What do you dubstep-heads think?

I played an ss501 dubstep/deadmau5 remix of Love ya, and that pretty much cleared the floor... even with a kpop/deadmau5 crowd. There were a couple times I dropped a dubstep section remix of Big Bang's "Tonight" and you could see everyone kind of looking around going: "wat wat? D:"
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: GoodAsianDriver on June 01, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 31, 2011, 05:02:24 PM

I do not have DJ equipment but I do "DJ" for SJSU's radio station, KSJS, and play electronic music. I wish I had the equipment and skill to DJ for the dance but hopefully I can apply for Fanime 2013 (or maybe even learn Virtual DJ/Traktor like a pro by the end of the summer. Would a strictly laptop "DJ/mixer" be allowed?

If I'm brought back as a dj next year, I'd be willing to share my latptop and mixer gear with ya. I use traktor and I spin at the rival college radio station, KSCU 103.3fm. As a fellow radio dj though, you should know that there's a big difference between radio playing and playing for a live crowd. FYI. I recommend practicing at house parties and for friends first. :)
Quote from: kookiekween99 on May 31, 2011, 07:50:18 PM

I went back to the Market Room Dance on Sunday around 11, and I had a blast. My friend and I stayed until the end of Dark0's set. He played at least two S3RL songs, which made me freak out with joy. ;D We made sure to rest when we were tired and only take in as much water as we needed. I did not want a repeat of the previous night. We had so much fun, with no bad incidents. I wanted to request a song, but I didn't know if Dark0 took requests, plus I'm really shy, so I didn't.

I've worked with Dj Dark0 before. I'm pretty sure he would have been happy to hear your request, and your excitement for his mixing. Don't be afraid to ask! Btw, he and I spin at a house party about every month or so if you're interested..
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on June 01, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
no offense taken peter; you already went out on a limb playing kpop and kpop/mashups, i wouldn't want the overall impression of you to have been the dj that played what everybody didn't want/expect to hear.  Each DJ could play what they wanted when it was all said and done.  Everyone was warned that dubstep had a very horrible response from the masses, and those in the forum that are adamant about it, remember we have to cater to all and not just you.  Lots of DJs attempted dub step here and there including myself (i dropped the dubstep remix of turbulence and left the dubstep break of britney in)....we even broke the format and played hip hop by request on sunday. 

Never be afraid to request a song, just don't be offended if the dj doesn't have it or play it.  I mean, the worst that can happen is that they don't play it.  However, try not to request a song that was just played (in case you were wondering why certain kpop songs got repeated 3 times in an hour in the 2nd room)
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: DJ Dark0 on June 03, 2011, 04:31:01 PM
First off, I'd like to thank everyone for coming out to see my set Saturday night.  It was off the hook for all two hours and I owe it all to everyone in attendance as well as the dance staff for giving me the opportunity.  Also, it was awesome seeing some people sneak into the Market room to catch some of my sets.

Making an EDM line-up becomes harder and harder as the years go by.  As the times change, music also changes and you get people with much stronger affinities for certain genres of EDM.  So we're always going to have folks who 'hate' or 'love' genres.  The most important thing is that we strive to please as many parties as possible.

I play hardcore in its fullest spectrum along with darker tinged drum & bass.  'Happy' hardcore, ever since 2008, has been on a complete downward spiral as far as bookings and overall respect for the genre.  Drum & Bass has also been on the decline albeit a much slower progression in favor of half-tempo Drumstep and slower BPM Dubstep.  What I'm trying to say here is that times change and whether you are a party-goer or a deejay, we are always going to like what we like and that in itself is very important. And by saying this, this is a convention and there are going to be more types of people here besides your typical EDM snob thus making said notion even more important.

In the defense of those who really hoped to hear popular anime opening themes and the such, I have to say I whole-heartedly agree with this notion and that we should strive to find skilled talent in this realm.  We need to find not only deejays that can beat-match and make mash-ups of these songs but also be able to make fantastic and interesting mixes while not being able to match the beats because of highly varying BPMs.

In the future, I think the most important changes would have to be better genre coverage as well as timeslot lengths that make more sense.  Longer times for deejays who have spun at Fanime before (if they happen to be chosen again), peak-time spots being an hour and a half to two hours while others being the traditional hour long.  By having more hour long spots, we'll be able to fit in more genres, thus pleasing more people.

Tell me what you guys think.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: Training on June 11, 2011, 04:43:47 AM
Extraordinary dances, just bring u into the vibe... I would love to hear more house beats but it was a fun experience so congratulations!
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on June 13, 2011, 02:32:19 PM
instead of starting a new thread I will edit this one (first post, this reply) to reflect some of the information I am directly looking for:

Good afternoon. As the 2011 FanimeCon Dance Co-Head, I am looking to get more productive
feedback about our 2011 event and soliciting suggestions for next year.  The 2012 Dance head
has not been selected yet; this feedback will be provided to the 2012 staff(so past efforts
won't be wasted).

Basic Information (what people may not know):
- The 2011 Dance was held in 2 locations, The Hilton Market Room and the J Ballroom of the
 convention center.
- The dance started earlier to accomodate additional DJs.
- The budget for the dance was (is) significantly limited to covering the substantial cost of the tech
 and facilities of the J (since we need to use Union approved equipment suppliers and contractors)
- DJs, Staff, and volunteers are not paid, but their badge/membership/liability coverage represents
 a cost to con.
- DJ equipment in the J Ballroom and Hilton Market Room for provided for use by the co-head of dance.
- Sound and Lighting equipment in the Hilton Market Room were provided for use without cash payment
 and at the owner's risk.

Feedback Area 1 (Multiple Rooms)

Lessons learned from this year were that
- the Hilton Market room draws people if promoted, but is still too far from the main con floor
  to draw enough people to make it truly successful
- The Hilton Market room opened too early and represented more of a nuisance to restaraunt patrons
  than a benefit to the con attendees.

Specific Questions:
- Should there continue to be multiple dance rooms?
- Should it return to being Hip Hop/Top 40s only or 18+?
- Why did/didn't you check out the Hilton Market Room in 2011?

Feedback Area 2 (Headliners)

Lessons learned from this year were that
- Headliners must represent a fiscal benefit to the con (meaning the draw or return must be a
  direct reflection of an increased number of attendees who come to con to see this guest rather
  than regular attendees.
- If people want headliners (like hardcore synergy/red alice/etc) they must provide that direct
  feedback to upper-con management through the form of a suggestion card at con or feedback emails.

Specific Questions:
- How will a headliner DJ benefit the con (not the dance)?
- Why should money be spent on a headliner dj versus an anime-related panel guest or musicfest artist?

Feedback Area 3 (Misc)
What improvements from the previous years' dances to you like?
what changes did you not like?
what other fedback can you provide?
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: YuffieK on June 17, 2011, 10:39:27 PM
The one and only reason my friend and I even went to the dances was because we saw 'Asian Pop' in the schedule, and we assumed that included k-pop. We had a BLAST dancing the night away to k-pop/asian-pop, and even the songs we weren't familiar with were still fun! It's very disappointing to hear that k-pop hasn't done so well overall at Fanime's dances, but I would definitely suggest bringing it back for 2012! Other than my friend and I, our whole group of friends was not at all into k-pop/j-pop, BUT after dragging them to the k-pop panel/musicfest/hearing all of the k-pop during the Masquerade- they're all hooked! (I don't know if there's a huge difference between the type of people that go to the dances and the ones that go watch the Masquerade, but SO many skits had k-pop this year and the crowd would go nuts every time!) K-pop/asian-pop is expanding more now than ever before, especially with so many artists doing the openings/endings for anime. Also, pretty much every k-pop group nowadays promotes in Japan, as well, so k-pop and j-pop are very much intertwined. Hopefully Asian pop gets another chance!!

Oh, also, I really loved the idea of the different dance rooms. However, I feel that the Hilton room could have been advertised/announced more clearly. It seems like most people are familiar with the main ballroom, so maybe posting up some signs there letting people know of the alternate rooms? (My friend and I asked the staff at the ballroom about any other rooms and they told us that they didn't even know there were other rooms.... -_-';; )
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: bluefir111 on June 20, 2011, 10:01:05 PM
the only suggestions that ive been getting from the facebook event page ( https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=124092381005785 ) are these
1) high intensity glowstringers need to switch to flowlights
2) keep glowstick bracelets and necklaces
3)more dubstep
4) more hardstyle
5) more happy hardcore
6) more lasers
7) volume was perfect keep it there
if there are any more ill post here
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: bebop on June 21, 2011, 01:28:51 AM
I think the Dubstep amount was fine just the way it was
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: bluefir111 on June 21, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: bebop on June 21, 2011, 01:28:51 AM
I think the Dubstep amount was fine just the way it was

i found it fine too but people either as asking for more or less of it. i personally would like to see some newer mixes out there like from pandora.com under the playlist of x-treme (exclusive club)
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on August 08, 2011, 04:24:57 PM
As the 2011 Co-Head of Dance, I am once again reaching out for feedback.
Positive feedback (especially for the staff) would be appreciated. 
Most of the feedback we have received has been extremely negative.

The entire staff put in a lot of hours and effort to make it successful. 
Where the Con didn't provide equipment, the staff filled in the gaps (Gabe
provided the mixer for the market room, I provided the entire sound and lighting
for that room and the dj equipment +6 lights for the main room.  As staff we
were not monetarily compensated for our time, equipment, or effort. 

We can't make everyone happy, but honestly, the feedback is discouraging.
Your positive feedback would be uplifting and encouraging amidst the flurry of criticism.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: kookiekween99 on August 10, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
Sorry if I sounded negative before. I tend to only point out issues that need fixing, so anything I didn't mention was pretty awesome. I did enjoy my overall experience at the dance, and I regret not spending more time there.

My only request is that you don't start taking any of the amazingness out of it. The Dance is one of my favorite events, and I would hate to see it die.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: DayDreamerNessa on September 14, 2011, 09:25:34 AM
For me I go to the dance if I'm passing by and my friends are willing to join, cause it's fun to pop in for a bit. I think almost every year since '06 i've at least popped into the dance just for a bit! I enjoy more mainstream songs that are recognizable from the various dance genre of music, and pop/j-pop songs.

I roomed at the hilton and Friday night we were having drinks in the hilton area, and could hear the music we were on the couches right next to the door, me and my friends were drawn in when Michael Jackson's thriller came on.

When we popped in, there was.. i think 2 people on the floor, but that didn't stop us. There was a good amount of people sitting in chairs at the back wall though.

My opinion about the location: it's a good size room if it's not crowded. If your not in the dance room and outside in the lobby it is quite loud. But I have to say if I wasn't rooming at the hilton I probably would've never of known of it.

Regardless me and my friends had fun ^^
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: demonchildling on December 03, 2011, 09:41:40 PM
Sorry for waiting so long to write a reply to this thread. I actually planned to make a review right after Fanime but school took my mind off of it.

I have to say, I had the most fun at the dances this year, and it was my 7th year at the con. I have no idea what the glow stick restriction was about, since my friends and I got through with our little glow sticks no problem. I did think it was interesting that this year, Fanime switched the placement of the stage. I remember in past years, it was on the far end of the room, but this year it was on the closer wall. That was a good idea, since it felt like more people could dance close to the music (while in the other formation there was a giant empty area near the entrance).

As for the music, I think the DJs did very well. There was the usual electronic/techno stuff (sorry, not a music buff) and some dubstep (which I don't think is a type of music made for dancing). But what really stuck out to me was the kpop mixes. It had to have been either Saturday or Sunday night, but right in the middle of the normal Fanime rave music, the DJ began to spin Kpop into there. And my friends and I just went wild. I'm talking about screaming at the top of our lungs, jumping around like we were high, and crying tears of joy type of wild. Because honestly, that mix was so easy to dance to, plus we were already familiar with the music so we followed along with moves from the music videos. I distinctly remember hearing After School and Kara in that mix. So thank you very much, DJ Peter Lo, or whoever that awesome person was. That mix made the dance one of the most memorable moments of the con.

Unfortunately, I missed out on the smaller dance room. however, a few of my friends went there, and told me about it afterwards. Apparently it was small, and a very intimate setting. For some, they thought that atmosphere was awkward. I had another friend who thought it made that dance the best thing in the world. The location did seem to be a bit weird though; right in the middle of the dining area. Maybe that can be improved in the future?

As for music for next year, here's what I would suggest. Keep playing that rave-ish music, whatever that is. I took a quick look at the 'request music for 2012' thread, and I had to laugh at some of the responses. Unless you can make an electronic remix of jazz, just leave that slow and instrumental music for the black and white ball. Also, please continue to play Kpop sets. The Korean music scene is becoming extremely popular, and many people that I know even listen to it more than Jpop now. Plus, many of the songs are great for dancing to. As for the Jpop, it might be a good idea to look at popular new anime themes (new anime series in the winter or spring, for example) as well as mix it with older anime songs that have a good history with the dance crowd. I'd also love to hear some of the top 40 songs in there as well. I'm talking stuff that you'd hear at a college party (Lady Gaga, Rihanna, an so on...).

I feel like, at the moment, headliner DJs would not be very beneficial to the con. People who may recognize them represent a small portion of the convention crowd, and many people just go to the dances without knowing who is playing, just looking for something good to dance to.Unless that person can incorporate different music into their sets to make it more diverse (tailor is to the Fanime crowd), just save the budget money for something else. Almost everyone going to the convention watches anime, so having an artist who is related to anime would bring much larger crowds.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: chifunii on December 04, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: demonchildling on December 03, 2011, 09:41:40 PM
I feel like, at the moment, headliner DJs would not be very beneficial to the con. People who may recognize them represent a small portion of the convention crowd, and many people just go to the dances without knowing who is playing, just looking for something good to dance to.Unless that person can incorporate different music into their sets to make it more diverse (tailor is to the Fanime crowd), just save the budget money for something else. Almost everyone going to the convention watches anime, so having an artist who is related to anime would bring much larger crowds.

Took the words right out of my mouth--  ::)
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: alvaang on December 08, 2011, 05:58:38 PM
It was ok but fun. Biggest issue i had was the SMELL. It was rly bad there should be deodorant spray stations..Also i wanna hear stuff i like mixed with a dubstep or rave beat. I want to hear mortal combat, pokemon theme song, mario, zelda, ff, etc mixed to dance too!
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on December 12, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
QuoteI feel like, at the moment, headliner DJs would not be very beneficial to the con. People who may recognize them represent a small portion of the convention crowd, and many people just go to the dances without knowing who is playing, just looking for something good to dance to.Unless that person can incorporate different music into their sets to make it more diverse (tailor is to the Fanime crowd), just save the budget money for something else. Almost everyone going to the convention watches anime, so having an artist who is related to anime would bring much larger crowds.

A headliner is less likely to be diverse and most likely stay true to what they are known for.  The dance does not have a budget, any headliner would most likely be paid for by the dance staff out of their own pockets or taken from another department's budget (also not likely).

My question comes from your argument that an anime-related artist would bring a larger crowd.  Is this from the existing con attendee pool or outside of the con?  Many people have presented this idea, yet few have been able to demonstrate how an anime-related headliner=more people to the con.  I am seeking your arguments in order to better represent this issue if it seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: demonchildling on December 13, 2011, 10:34:39 PM
I'm talking about people from the existing convention attendee pool. Certainly, there might be some people who are more motivated to attend a convention (who have not been to Fanime before) if they knew that an artist who has performed the theme songs to their anime. However, I see any increase due largely in part to this reason to be minimal at best. Unless you can get an artist who is outrageously popular, so popular that people would go to the convention solely to see the artist perform, I don't see the attendee numbers rising just for this.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: GoodAsianDriver on January 26, 2012, 03:43:29 AM
Quote from: demonchildling on December 03, 2011, 09:41:40 PM
It had to have been either Saturday or Sunday night, but right in the middle of the normal Fanime rave music, the DJ began to spin Kpop into there. And my friends and I just went wild. I'm talking about screaming at the top of our lungs, jumping around like we were high, and crying tears of joy type of wild. Because honestly, that mix was so easy to dance to, plus we were already familiar with the music so we followed along with moves from the music videos. I distinctly remember hearing After School and Kara in that mix. So thank you very much, DJ Peter Lo, or whoever that awesome person was. That mix made the dance one of the most memorable moments of the con.


Yup that was me. Thanks for the comment! It is greatly appreciated, knowing that the peoples are happy makes me happy. Before I went on that night you heard Stormy Rayner who played trance. MOAR KPOP FOR 2012. Also, will you be attending kpopcon this weekend?
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: CommandantCat on January 26, 2012, 09:39:24 PM
I personally had a wonderful time at the dances!

My only note is keep away from the lyrics and stick to the beats. No one cares what the hell someone is saying as long at the rhythm is sick and beats are hard.

Personally, I love more indie for listening pleasure, but pump up the dubstep, house, and occasional trance. Hardstyle never hurts either.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: Malocide on February 02, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
I hated that I could not bring in food or drink most people do not really have a place to store stuff close to con and asking them to throw out there food to dance is rather nuts. Have a check bag area or something if its really such a problem. I understand why but the silly thing is I had prescription pills(I take them at night) on me which could very well been illegal drugs and they were not found. If your gonna try to get drug dealers PLEASE GET THEM! but don't hurt the con goers with no where to put there bags filled with all their belongings. When I first went to Fanime and AX I was always crashing in rooms I could not really keep my stuff safe so I carried everything with me including my food for the con and asking me to throw it out back then would have been devastating.
Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: eHash on February 06, 2012, 11:47:29 AM
Malocide:

Food and drinks are not allowed in the dance due to liability issues with the venue in terms of the carpet. 
-> This will not change <-

Even though security checks bags, things can slip by.  Your comment is noted.
We are attempting to evaluate the feasibility of a bag/prop check this year, but if we are unsuccessful,
I encourage you to consider checking your bag at the front desk of one of the hotels.


Title: Re: FANIMECON DANCE 2011 FEEDBACK
Post by: Malocide on February 09, 2012, 12:54:02 AM
Thank you the food thing makes sense. I hope you can do some kind of bag check it would be way appreciated. This year I will try hard to just have a close room or car but as I said I am concerned about those new con goers with like I was carrying everything in their backpack.Thanks for taking all I have said into consideration and I am sorry to let you know about the pill thing.

Besides that keep it up I love the dances and recommend them anyone who loves dancing. My sister who is not big in the anime scene might go just because the dances sound so fun and worth the cost of the con.