Poll
Question:
Have you felt lonely?
Option 1: Yeah...all the time.
Option 2: Yeah, I know the feeling.
Option 3: Sometimes.
Option 4: I'm sorry you feel lonely.
Option 5: Not really.
Option 6: Dude, YOU SUCK for being lonely, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Hey, is anyone lonely? I sure as hell am. Seems like everyone that I IM, chooses to not respond. One person, 2, even 3 I could understand. But...everyone? Sigh. I tried to start gatherings, and nobody shows up. The only responses I get are people who JUST HAVE TO put in their 2 cents about why my gatherings don't work. DOES NOT HELP IN THE LEAST!!
This is the "Lonely Thread."
Lonely thread is lonely.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:05:40 AM
Hey, is anyone lonely? I sure as hell am. Seems like everyone that I IM, chooses to not respond. One person, 2, even 3 I could understand. But...everyone? Sigh. I tried to start gatherings, and nobody shows up. The only responses I get are people who JUST HAVE TO put in their 2 cents about why my gatherings don't work. DOES NOT HELP IN THE LEAST!!
This is the "Lonely Thread."
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Just FYI...your Sig is just plain flaming. Gay that is.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:18:40 AM
Just FYI...your Sig is just plain flaming. Gay that is.
Okay ^^. Was that a poor sad attempt at an insult or something? OHNOS... a sig that I didn't put up there was called homosexual!
I FEEL SO HORRIBLE NOW... I MUST DO SOMETHING TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER!
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:::reads the first post again:::
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Mission complete.
Why do people feel it necessary to publicize their loneliness.
Go out, socialize, find people who honestly care. Have you ever thought there's a reason people may not be responding to you or not going to your gatherings?
Think people before you post, and it makes life much more easier for everyone.
Well, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread? Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Well, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread? Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.
wwwwwwwwwww...
Well he's a moderator, so he sorta... has to. It's not that we don't care... no one said he doesn't care, nor did I. You didn't even attempt to read what he said, because you might learn something from it.
PS... this is why no one responds to you. This is why no one goes to your gatherings. You're a creepy loser, that acts all high and mighty when people try to tell you that, it might be the way YOU are that causes people not to like you.
You made a thread whining about how no one likes you... what was your intention in doing this? Did you expect people to tell you how you're wrong, and that you're cool, and that they want to be friends? People don't like whiny people. People don't like people that use manipulation as a way to get closer to people.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Well, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread?
Possibly because this is a public forum, I do not see anywhere in the rules of this forum that restricts me from posting my ideas. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.
I think you very well know who I am talking to, plus there has been multiple occurrences where these type of posts have been made. If you actually read my post I gave you advice (it honestly worked for me, seriously) and then you attack me, where in my post did I warrant this type of response?
I wish I could just have a thread that opens dialogue. Nope. Just opens up for insults.
As far as for reasons for why people don't come to the gatherings, I honestly don't know. I put it up far enough in advance, and nobody knew me enough to make a positive or negative judgement. I mean, that's just my honest thought, I'm not being whiny on that one.
The thread deviated from the main point I was trying to put out there.
What I guess I meant to ask was does anyone ELSE feel lonely? Have they done things like I have and had the same result?
QuoteWell, if you didn't care...why did you reply to the thread? Hmm? BTW, my name isn't "people," so I don't know who you're talking to.
I honestly don't see an "insult" in there. But if you did, oh well. If you're reffering to the "people" line, sorry. That's part of a pet peeve of mine where at work, i'm often called, "hey you" or something similar, like I don't have a name or job title. My bad
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 01:57:33 AM
I wish I could just have a thread that opens dialogue. Nope. Just opens up for insults.
I won't go too far into this but... with the way you've expressed yourself, so far, can you really expect otherwise? Everyone feels lonely from time to time, some moreso than others, and some very much so. Loneliness to a great extent can be a horrible feeling, but you should be able to feel opportunities to change that and find other people to enjoy the company of. Even those who do have a lot of friends, people to be with, and are very social may still feel lonely-- it requires time and effort to find people you're really compatible with that help rid of loneliness.
Though, people do respond positively toward personalities they like... If people do not respond positively, have you ever questioned yourself as to why? Because even with the unkind void of positivity in this thread, if anything, your show of personality may possibly be pushing even more people away-- not even now, but possibly in the past as well.
本気は・・・キモチワル・・・
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:07:04 AM
I won't go too far into this but... with the way you've expressed yourself, so far, can you really expect otherwise? Everyone feels lonely from time to time, some moreso than others, and some very much so. Loneliness to a great extent can be a horrible feeling, but you should be able to feel opportunities to change that and find other people to enjoy the company of. Even those who do have a lot of friends, people to be with, and are very social may still feel lonely-- it requires time and effort to find people you're really compatible with that help rid of loneliness.
Though, people do respond positively toward personalities they like... If people do not respond positively, have you ever questioned yourself as to why? Because even with the unkind void of positivity in this thread, if anything, your show of personality may possibly be pushing even more people away-- not even now, but possibly in the past as well.
Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:22:53 AM
Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.
This line of thinking is so stupid that it annoys me when people say crap like "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, YOU DON'T KNOW ME?!?!?"
Because for one, I don't need to "know you". What you say says things about you. Unless the post was completely random and unlike anything you do (i.e. a sarcastic joke) than it says a lot about who you are.
I don't NEED to know someone, to know that part of their personality is or isn't a certain way. Sadly, this post isn't the only evidence of your personality that I know of.
Here you go, blaming other people again. There's a reason why they laugh... there's a reason why they avoid you. It's not just because you said hello, but rather how... and when. What you said right after that, or how you acted doing so. People don't just "do things" for no reason like that.
Hint: It's because of you.
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 02, 2009, 02:29:28 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:22:53 AM
Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.
This line of thinking is so stupid that it annoys me when people say crap like "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, YOU DON'T KNOW ME?!?!?"
Because for one, I don't need to "know you". What you say says things about you. Unless the post was completely random and unlike anything you do (i.e. a sarcastic joke) than it says a lot about who you are.
I don't NEED to know someone, to know that part of their personality is or isn't a certain way. Sadly, this post isn't the only evidence of your personality that I know of.
Here you go, blaming other people again. There's a reason why they laugh... there's a reason why they avoid you. It's not just because you said hello, but rather how... and when. What you said right after that, or how you acted doing so. People don't just "do things" for no reason like that.
Hint: It's because of you.
Sigh. I'm trying not to be hateful or sink to your level of dislike. If you REALLY have a problem with this thread...why are you wasting your time with it? I'm trying to open CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue. The purpose of this thread is to find out if there are OTHER PEOPLE that have felt like this at one time or another.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:22:53 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:07:04 AM
I won't go too far into this but... with the way you've expressed yourself, so far, can you really expect otherwise? Everyone feels lonely from time to time, some moreso than others, and some very much so. Loneliness to a great extent can be a horrible feeling, but you should be able to feel opportunities to change that and find other people to enjoy the company of. Even those who do have a lot of friends, people to be with, and are very social may still feel lonely-- it requires time and effort to find people you're really compatible with that help rid of loneliness.
Though, people do respond positively toward personalities they like... If people do not respond positively, have you ever questioned yourself as to why? Because even with the unkind void of positivity in this thread, if anything, your show of personality may possibly be pushing even more people away-- not even now, but possibly in the past as well.
Makes sense, and I understand what you're saying. But...I guess what I'm curious about is why people respond negatively before they even know anything about the person? Like if you say "Hello" and they just laugh at you or avoid you because you said hello. I wish I could say what I'm actually feeling or trying to say, but then someone will just say I'm "whining," so expressing oneself honestly is not an option.
I don't mean to discourage you, but a lot of people that I've met that have experienced similar things tend to be simply socially awkward, and it's difficult for them to change it. The only thing you can really do is try, learn from your environment and the actions of other people, how to read people's expressions and feelings, and pick up social tact and awareness. If you keep trying, at the very least, you can use your experiences to gain something from them-- learning about what you may be doing right or wrong, and the type of person you want to be.
Even whilst still having difficultly, everyone is able to have a chance at finding others that accept them and like them for who they are, (in most cases) no matter how bad or flawed they may be. With being tactful, you should be aware that... everything you say and do, is an expression of yourself. It doesn't matter if it's a direct one, or not "in-depth" enough for people to really "know" you before they judge you-- because the thing is, it isn't illogical to judge others by what they see and hear, even if it may not be entirely truthful. And even simple "hello"s based on the circumstances, may not even be tactful... like wrong timing, or an awkward attitude.
The truth is, though, to be completely socially accepted, it is not acceptable to most to be completely yourself. You
should still "be yourself", but at the same time, there are ways a person is pushed to act, like not expressing every bit of their opinions of others, minding their manners, being tactful in general-- it may be partially dishonest, but honesty isn't always what is liked. Tact is knowing what and what not to say, what to express and what to keep to yourself, how to be a good person, and knowing when to be honest, and when not to be. Even the most outspoken people may need to reserve themselves once in a while. You don't have to become someone other than yourself to get people to like you. You just need to improve who you are. These are things people learn by personal experiences by interacting with others and their environment.
And that's all you can do, really-- work with the circumstances you are given.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:37:39 AM
Sigh. I'm trying not to be hateful or sink to your level of dislike. If you REALLY have a problem with this thread...why are you wasting your time with it? I'm trying to open CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue. The purpose of this thread is to find out if there are OTHER PEOPLE that have felt like this at one time or another.
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.
It makes me wonder why I bother.
Why am I wasting my time with it? ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT you'll actually listen and learn something. Silly me though. Who am I to think someone like you would listen to advice and learn something.
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:38:56 AM
I don't mean to discourage you, but a lot of people that I've met that have experienced similar things tend to be simply socially awkward, and it's difficult for them to change it. The only thing you can really do is try, learn from your environment and the actions of other people, how to read people's expressions and feelings, and pick up social tact and awareness. If you keep trying, at the very least, you can use your experiences to gain something from them-- learning about what you may be doing right or wrong, and the type of person you want to be.
Even whilst still having difficultly, everyone is able to have a chance at finding others that accept them and like them for who they are, (in most cases) no matter how bad or flawed they may be. With being tactful, you should be aware that... everything you say and do, is an expression of yourself. It doesn't matter if it's a direct one, or not "in-depth" enough for people to really "know" you before they judge you-- because the thing is, it isn't illogical to judge others by what they see and hear, even if it may not be entirely truthful. And even simple "hello"s based on the circumstances, may not even be tactful... like wrong timing, or an awkward attitude.
The truth is, though, to be completely socially accepted, it is not acceptable to most to be completely yourself. You should still "be yourself", but at the same time, there are ways a person is pushed to act, like not expressing every bit of their opinions of others, minding their manners, being tactful in general-- it may be partially dishonest, but honesty isn't always what is liked. Tact is knowing what and what not to say, what to express and what to keep to yourself, how to be a good person, and knowing when to be honest, and when not to be. Even the most outspoken people may need to reserve themselves once in a while. You don't have to become someone other than yourself to get people to like you. You just need to improve who you are. These are things people learn by personal experiences by interacting with others and their environment.
And that's all you can do, really-- work with the circumstances you are given.
See, there's a constructive post. Thank you
I think you're hitting the nail right on the head. I will admit, yes, I'm socially awkward. That's probably one of if not the MAIN reason. It makes sense in public, in the real world, why it is difficult for me to make new friends. But in the online world...I'm afraid I still don't understand how saying "Hello" is a bad thing. Now I'm only using the "Hello" phrase as an example.
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 02, 2009, 02:43:02 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:37:39 AM
Sigh. I'm trying not to be hateful or sink to your level of dislike. If you REALLY have a problem with this thread...why are you wasting your time with it? I'm trying to open CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue. The purpose of this thread is to find out if there are OTHER PEOPLE that have felt like this at one time or another.
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.
It makes me wonder why I bother.
Why am I wasting my time with it? ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT you'll actually listen and learn something. Silly me though. Who am I to think someone like you would listen to advice and learn something.
"It's not us, YOU suck." Doesn't seem the best way to teach someone anything. I know you don't have to be nice or anything, but some people just tune you out when you start off attacking them like that.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:51:03 AM
"It's not us, YOU suck." Doesn't seem the best way to teach someone anything. I know you don't have to be nice or anything, but some people just tune you out when you start off attacking them like that.
Yes, we call these people "stupid". Some of the best advice/lessons comes in forms people don't like.
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 02, 2009, 02:58:42 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 02:51:03 AM
"It's not us, YOU suck." Doesn't seem the best way to teach someone anything. I know you don't have to be nice or anything, but some people just tune you out when you start off attacking them like that.
Yes, we call these people "stupid". Some of the best advice/lessons comes in forms people don't like.
I can't disagree with you honestly. But not ALL the best advice has to be in a form people don't like. And let's just leave it there. This back and forth between us isn't really solving anything.
Quote from: SukebeStudios on March 02, 2009, 03:07:57 AM
I can't disagree with you honestly. But not ALL the best advice has to be in a form people don't like. And let's just leave it there. This back and forth between us isn't really solving anything.
And that is one of the reasons why we have an ignore list now. If you know that the person in question is not going to be one bit helpful and that discussing something with them is going to go nowhere, use the ignore list and nip it in the bud before it gets dragged out, or worse.
Wait... so this isn't a joke topic? O.o
Quote from: LordKefka on March 02, 2009, 08:36:01 AM
Wait... so this isn't a joke topic? O.o
Apparently not.
Maybe I should've gone with my original post and give actual advice. Oh well.
I've given him [SukebeStudios] random advice when it comes the threads for gatherings. It's sort/semi ?? obviously he would like to meet/make new friends and have successful hangouts. But not everyone can meet people out of thin air and thus, i suppose anyone may feel lonely everyone once in a while....
It all depends what u do urself in order to change that.
but IMO this thread sorta pop up from outta the blue. not the best thing to put your heart on your sleeve in a public forum, and again IMO u should really consult your own family and friends before getting drilled and flamed by our love-able flamer himself [Pyron]
at the same time, your purposely directing attention to yourself and whether or not the intent was honest/sincere... it does just come off as 'odd' to say the least.
heck, I'll take credit for saying/posting some pretty stupid/un-thought out things... but you kinda opended a can of worms on the internet...
and lets just say the vultures will have no regrets biting your head off, making fun of you and literally taking a poo in your bed.
Thing is, though, Pyron isn't exactly wrong in everything he had said, even if he may have been a jerk in saying it. I don't mean to be biased, because he's my partner, but people in similar situations don't realize that... advice really isn't given in a way that is liked. I know it isn't great to listen to negative comments thrown at you, especially if it's baseless bullying-- but sometimes it isn't. Somethings it may be someone else pointing out that what you may be doing, may actually be wrong, and push you to question it.
Yes, don't listen to every negative thing thrown at you, because in most cases, it's only there to drag you down. But most people like this need to learn how to be strong enough to at least acknowledge the difference between destructive criticism, and constructive (even in really harsh forms of it) and see past the attitude and understand what it really means. Though, I don't blame you for wanting to tune out Pyron in his posts on this thread. Not many people feel willing to see past what he does as a jerk to try to understand what his point may be, and not many should really feel obliged to. But people on this public forum aren't obliged to take this thread very seriously, and may just ridicule you, because in truth, the fact that you bothered to make a thread on this on the internet... is laughable.
At the very least, for your sake, it didn't turn into something where everyone made fun of you, posted just "so ronery ;_;", like it would anywhere else. Though, thing is... that's another thing about tact. This thread is just untactful, and most people don't like negative threads, or threads that call out to others to expose vulnerability in public. Again, everything you do is a direct expression of who you are-- making this thread, and even saying hello.
Normally, I'd just make fun of you. But you know, out of the two things that I know can really make a person break down is loneliness (in varying situations), and extreme boredom. You're not going to go anywhere by just sitting there and complaining about it, though. Plus, I must remind you, there are other forms of socializing and communication other than the internet... You're really lucky that despite the fact that you've put one of THE worst possible things you can put yourself up to on the internet, you're barely having any rotten tomatoes thrown at you. You're putting yourself up for criticism that if there were enough people here, they'd make you want to off yourself.
The best thing you can really do for yourself is work with the circumstances, try to progress with what you have... go out and meet other people, become close and appreciate the friends that you already have, and make your own life the best it can be.
You know, I bet not everyone wants to admit it, but almost every single person on this thread has experienced some large form of loneliness at some point, and some may still feel that way to an extent. But I know for a fact that a good load of them do something about it. They go out, meet others, and bond with people they feel they can trust. It's people you become close to, and even people who you aren't so close to that understand that makes you feel less lonely. Sitting there and whining about it won't make you feel any better, and it'll push people away-- you have to get up, and change things for yourself. It may be harder for some than others, but what you have to do isn't much different than what anyone else had to do. Make friends, and eventually find the people who help you feel less lonely, and don't take them for granted.
Where the heck do you live? If you're anywhere near the major cities, it isn't hard to socialize at all. Things are happening all the time-- you just have to look for them.
P.S. Jerry's post here is possibly THE post that made the most sense... he has ever had on the internet, and he's right. You should really appreciate that. lmao
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 02, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
P.S. Jerry's post here is possibly THE post that made the most sense... he has ever had on the internet, and he's right. You should really appreciate that. lmao
O_O holy crap.
its the end of the world as we know it....
and i guess i feel fine. :P
Agreed, we all feel lonely at times. Figuring out why we're lonely and changing that is the thing you should do (did someone say that already? jun and mikey write more than i care to read). By changing it could mean changing yourself, how you approach a conversation, what you talk about, your attitude during a conversation, maybe how you dress if it's necessary. Or just who you try to hang out with. The cool crowds aren't always as cool as they seem to be.
again, u should really stop by the 3/8/09 if its withing your power.
you might not want to say ur board name, heck im confident to use my real name. :P but again just go with the flow and prove [them] or yourself wrong and just socialize and hang out meet some of us if you wish.
til then, find something else instead to distract urself instead of the I'm sad because I'm lonely routine.
trust me, your NOT the first person do to this 'silly woe as me' routine... :-[
and something tells me you WILL NOT be the last either. :P
Can I make a woe is me thread later?
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 02, 2009, 03:31:39 PM
Can I make a woe is me thread later?
sure, but i wouldnt believe it JT. You're too cool for words. 8)
JT stop being lonely when I call you :c at 2am with your maplestory
anyway based from your gathering thread it wasent really well organized, there was no meet up place, a DECENT time frame (dont assume people are going to go to a midnight screening of a film especially if its a school night/working/last minute ect) All you had was "oh im wearing this" or something like that, it isnt very specific I mean post a picture of yourself on the member boards so that way it could be easier to find you I mean there could have been a buttload of people wearing a ryu headbands or whatever. Gatherings sometimes take planning like weeks is in advance not just last minute especially when you can get an official head count. If they bomb they bomb deal with it and try to plan a better one next time and include feedback from people
Anywho the feeling of being lonely sucks (I have been there before) but try to talk to family or friends like what jerry said, read a book or try to do something to get your mind off of it because doing nothing increases it more to dwell on being lonely. You could try to not come off as desperate for friends because it can turn some people away since it is a bit borderline creepy imo. If its an IM dont try to ask people to be roomates so to split hotel costs for fanime (like you asked me) It comes off as creepy and not alot of people want to room with strangers. anyway back on the lonely part its something YOU have to work on like changing your attiude be more positive cause positive thinking helps alot, change up your looks and stuff its really not too hard but not too simple either.
Quote from: Jerry on March 02, 2009, 03:35:48 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 02, 2009, 03:31:39 PM
Can I make a woe is me thread later?
sure, but i wouldnt believe it JT. You're too cool for words. 8)
even cool people have insecurities :'(
Quote from: Kazuko on March 02, 2009, 04:03:23 PM
You could try to not come off as desperate for friends because it can turn some people away since it is a bit borderline creepy imo. If its an IM dont try to ask people to be roomates so to split hotel costs for fanime (like you asked me) It comes off as creepy and not alot of people want to room with strangers.
This.
Quote from: Jerry on March 02, 2009, 03:09:59 PM
and something tells me you WILL NOT be the last either. :P
But we all hope it is.
See the issue is... he NEEDS to be yelled at. Guys like him are so full of themselves in the wrong kind of way. He's a "nice guy". He uses self-pity to appeal to others, and thinks that is what makes him a great guy.
If you look at his post history, all of his posts are generally the same. Him seeking out people and then bitching about how other people don't like him, despite him being a nice guy... but because girls want only good looking guys, and assholes.
for the lazy...
http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,10149.msg261030.html#msg261030
The first post is how he hates women... because they only like good looking guys, not "average looking guys" with great personalities... like him. Because CLEARLY he has an AMAZINGLY WONDERFUL PERSONALITY, and everyone else in the world is wrong. All this guy does is blame other people. Never does he question himself in a way that is productive. People like this don't need to be told "Don't worry it'll get better", because all that does is fortify their mentality, that the rest of the world is wrong.
And then every reply he gets, he argues with and keeps repeating how they are wrong, and women are stupid. He claims women don't care about anything but looks or money, and he is sad and lonely only because women are stupid and don't like genuine personality.
TO HELL WITH GUYS LIKE THIS. And frankly, it's ironic that I OF ALL PEOPLE, try to help them with actual legitimate advice. Only none of them listen, because they're so full of themselves that they have to blame the rest of the world. Frankly, advice to the rest of you... don't pity him. Don't pander to his ways. If he wants to hang out, don't do it just because you feel sorry for him. He acts this way on purpose, he chooses to do so, and until he grows up and realizes he's the problem, you shouldn't let him manipulate you into acting like he might be right.
If this dumbass wants to make friends... he should make friends on legitimate grounds. He shouldn't try to force people to like him. Let this loser be the loser that he is. When he mans up and admits he's a pathetic loser and that people don't like him, BECAUSE HE'S A CREEPY ASSHOLE that tries to con people into hanging out with him out of desperation...
Then maybe he can start trying to grow up and accept things.
Well, yes. I agree that people like this do need to yelled at, rather than babied and given "Oh... no, you're not horrible.". But no one in this thread is doing that, anyway. No one is telling him not listen to others, keep being a loser, or that what he's doing now is right. The point is to make him question what he may be doing wrong, that maybe that something he's doing is causing why he feels that way, and advice as to how to change how things are.
Even though what Pyron says may be right, though, most people-- especially people like SukebeStudios, are going to throw anything that scolds him as an attack and lump it in with bullying and destructive criticism. Like I said in my previous post, people like this need to grow to become strong enough to know the difference between bullying, and constructive criticism. People that don't, end up not listening, and never notice the difference until someone points it out to them in a way they're willing to listen.
Really, I wanted to provide the other side of things. Truthfully, I think that he already does know that he's a loser, in his position. No one would really want to be friends with someone who expresses themselves this way, other than out of pity-- but there is no harm in giving neutral advice he can use while he's picking himself up and socializing for the right reasons, and from where, building GENUINE friendships. If anything, this sort of thing cannot be taught through pity and babying-- it's about enduring, and sucking it up and learning from your environment.
So if OP reads last Pyron's post and gets offended and walks off... you haven't learned a thing, because that is nowhere near what bullying is. It really isn't. It's frustration with stupid people, but he's not leaving you with nothing. If anything, he's challenging you to become a better person.
Well, I haven't run away. I've just been at work. I'm trying to work on being a better person. And I do admit, even though he's an utter asshole...Pyron does make sense. ::Shrug:: Asshole can make sense too. But he is right nonetheless. I need to take stock of myself and try to understand what it is about myself that is undesireable, in combination with the type of people I'm trying to hang out with. So...*mumbleneverthoughti'deversayitmumble*
THANK
YOU
PYRON
Don't expect to hear that often though.
HOLY CRAP.
I stop trolling for a day, and a thread of this proportion pops up. Dayum, you guys are GOOD.
*Applauds*.
-Steve
You should have more confidence in yourself, it's more attractive.
Quote from: Steve.Young on March 03, 2009, 12:00:41 AM
You should have more confidence in yourself, it's more attractive.
Don't turn GAR for him.
TV is my friend. TV is my friend. TV is my friend. :D
But I have friends, too. :D
Oh ho, I see. No "Thank you Jun", huh.
WHAT IS THIS. THANKING PYRON, AND JERRY MAKING SENSE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 03, 2009, 12:43:18 AM
Oh ho, I see. No "Thank you Jun", huh.
WHAT IS THIS. THANKING PYRON, AND JERRY MAKING SENSE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ok, lol, if you wanna hear it,
THANK
YOU
J-
*THIS POST HAS BEEN INTURUPPTED BY...UH...NO ONE?*
Thank You Jun.
;)
I know, Jerry making sense IS scary.
(lol that ryhmed)
Don't I get paid or anything? :(
I'd give you a nature valley granola bar...but I eated it.
and I left the cookies 25 miles away on my last venture.
...
Quote from: Steve.Young on March 05, 2009, 10:50:11 AM
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yah i know, me making sense?
I would be speechless to steve. :P
Quote from: G.I.R on March 06, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on March 05, 2009, 11:02:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry on March 05, 2009, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Steve.Young on March 05, 2009, 10:50:11 AM
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yah i know, me making sense?
I would be speechless to steve. :P
Jerry makes less sense when drunk.
Does he make sense when you're sober? ;D
Jerry makes more sense sober than drunk(plus he doesn't add 'the' to every other word); as for me, I haven't reached the point of being 'drunk', so I don't know if I more more/less sense.
Does that mean you think clearly when you're drunk? lol
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on March 06, 2009, 01:50:39 PM
Does that mean you think clearly when you're drunk? lol
Like I said, I haven't reached the point of being 'drunk'; I have gotten tipsy, but that's about it.
i find it funny this went from the lonely thread to the drunken Jerry thread. :P
Lonely Thread isn't so Lonely now aktuly.
I make sense when drunk! XD
*pulls out change in pocket*
Tadaa~
Quote from: XpHoBiaX on March 08, 2009, 11:34:55 PM
I make sense when drunk! XD
*pulls out change in pocket*
Tadaa~
I see what you did there.
;)
Lonely thread doesn't seem to be so lonely anymore. lol
I stand alone on a lot of things. So yeah...
Now I've told you this once before
You can't control me
If you try to take me down you're gonna break
Now I feel your hatred nothing that you're doing for me
I'm thinkin you outta make your own way
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
You're always hiding behind your so called goddess
So what you don't think that we can see your face
Resurrected back before the final fallen
I'll never rest until I can make my own way
I'm not afraid of fading
I stand alone
Feeling your sting down inside of me
I'm not dying for it
I stand alone
Everything that I believe is fading
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
And now its my time (now its my time)
It's my time to dream (my time to dream)
Dream of the sky (dream of the sky)
Make me believe that this place isn't plagued
By the poison in me
Help me decide if my fire will burn out
Before you can breathe
Breathe into me
I stand alone
Steve.Young wins! 8)
'Ronery, so 'ronery...