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Title: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 26, 2008, 08:15:19 PM
Last year outright SUCKED, and we all know it. But that changed, this year. We might've not had gotten as big of a crazy crowd as we did last year, but almost everyone that had come was pleased with the wonderful service the maids had brought this year. I feel especially proud, having done the maid-behavioral training. Thanks for all who managed to organize it, even if things turned out to be last minute. 20 volunteers dropped out at the last minute from the lack of good timing, but we did well regardless. You all worked really hard.

So what changed this year? For one, BIGGER SPACE, nicer decor, and maids actually got to play the role of being maids instead of just waitresses in cute uniforms. We also had leeway for time, so people could sit and relax, and the maids can provide their patrons company by playing games and having conversations. Thanks to all the customers who had so much fun with us, and those who took the effort to give us so many fabulous gifts.

I even got to talk to a couple of press members, starting with, "Let's be honest. Last year was terrible." and ended with "But this year is awesome. Expect a good review."

So, what did you think? What should be improve on NEXT year? For one, we need more time to prepare things up closer to near-perfection. We WILL do it, so be sure to come visit us next year! Thank you.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Nina Star 9 on May 26, 2008, 08:34:35 PM
It was pretty nice to sit there and chill with the maids for a bit. However, I have two complaints, and I'm not sure if one of them can really be changed:

1. The prices. When we first saw the prices, we thought that it was pretty average with the rest of the con, but then when we got our food, it was tiny! I realize that you probably have no control over the prices, but still, it seemed a bit much for something so tiny.

2. Two girls in our group ordered the exact same thing. One of them got her sandwich on time, with the rest of the group. The other girl, however, had to wait for a long time to get hers, and the maids kept coming over to apologize and to entertain us while waiting. Other guests were getting their food, but this poor girl didn't get hers for a long time, even though we looked around and saw others with the same thing. I have no idea what happened there, but please try to keep everything together next time so that one person isn't waiting around a long while after everyone else has finished.


I may or may not go back next year, but I do have to say that the maids were cute, polite, and entertaining, and it was fun in a group. Going by myself as I had originally planned might not have been as good.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 26, 2008, 08:40:32 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm sorry about the complications that had happened, though. Unfortunately, I wasn't there when that had happened to help assess the issue, but hopefully nothing as bad happens next year.

As for the prices of the food, that isn't up to us. The organization that provides the food to us is a completely different organization and can charge it however they want. I agree it's expensive, but I realize that it's a catering service and they tend to price it that way.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kaura117 on May 26, 2008, 08:44:42 PM
The solo experience wasn't too bad either, actually. The maids were attentive, professional and personable. The price/quantity ratio is... um... unpleasant, but even with restaurant work experience, I can't think of any easy ways to lower the cost given the context, especially given a separate company for catering.

The Alice in Wonderland cosplay group was awesome. Not sure if that was actually part of the deal (pretty sure it wasn't), but it added a wonderful element of surreality.

I admit major skepticism to the concept when I first heard about it, and last year's accounts didn't help matters much. But my curiosity got the best of me this year, and it was rewarded accordingly. Great job this time, and I hope to see ye girls next year.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: SukieNeko on May 26, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
This was the first time I went to the maid cafe and I really enjoyed it. Getting to take pictures with the maids was a nice touch:P One thing I would reccomend is try to have the maids learn a few Japanese phrases such as Okaerinasaimase (welcome home. Something that maids usually say to customers when they first arrive.) Perhaps you did this, but I don't recall my maid using any Japanese. That was perfectly fine though and is just a suggestion. Still, it was great and I enjoyed myself.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kaura117 on May 26, 2008, 08:48:31 PM
Quote from: SukieNeko on May 26, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
This was the first time I went to the maid cafe and I really enjoyed it. Getting to take pictures with the maids was a nice touch:P One thing I would reccomend is try to have the maids learn a few Japanese phrases such as Okaerinasaimase (welcome home. Something that maids usually say to customers when they first arrive.) Perhaps you did this, but I don't recall my maid using any Japanese. That was perfectly fine though and is just a suggestion. Still, it was great and I enjoyed myself.

They did use the usual assortment of Japanese phrases. Not all the time, obviously, but that's a good thing to my reckoning.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 26, 2008, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: SukieNeko on May 26, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
This was the first time I went to the maid cafe and I really enjoyed it. Getting to take pictures with the maids was a nice touch:P One thing I would reccomend is try to have the maids learn a few Japanese phrases such as Okaerinasaimase (welcome home. Something that maids usually say to customers when they first arrive.) Perhaps you did this, but I don't recall my maid using any Japanese. That was perfectly fine though and is just a suggestion. Still, it was great and I enjoyed myself.

Actually, I did train them to use "Okaerinasai" and "Itterasshaimase", and referring to their customers as "Goshujinsama" and "Ojousama" but time was limited to press them to practice one-on-one. Also, a few had trouble pronouncing the phrases, so we gave them the option of saying the English counterparts in place of the Japanese ones, instead of forcing them to speak a new language.

Also, it was encouraged to speak English the majority of the time, outside of the phrases, to prevent a distanced relationship with customers that don't understand Japanese. The only ones I would've recommended speaking further Japanese with were with the guests from Japan that only spoke English. The Gainax people had a pretty fun sense of humor.

I'm really happy with the feedback so far, though. I had fun talking to my own customers as well.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Nina Star 9 on May 26, 2008, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 26, 2008, 08:40:32 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm sorry about the complications that had happened, though. Unfortunately, I wasn't there when that had happened to help assess the issue, but hopefully nothing as bad happens next year.

As for the prices of the food, that isn't up to us. The organization that provides the food to us is a completely different organization and can charge it however they want. I agree it's expensive, but I realize that it's a catering service and they tend to price it that way.
I figured that the food prices couldn't be helped, but it was a bit dissapointing. I cannot comment on the taste of the food, though, since I only ordered a drink, but it all looked rather tasty, at least. :D
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: The Sax on May 27, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
Hey Jun, it's teh Reimu with no balls.

After meeting with you on Saturday, I also went back with friends to have a snack at the cafe. We all enjoyed ourselves there. Food prices were, again, a bit on the steep side; if there's anything that needs improvement, you guys really need to plan what's being offered in terms of food and lower prices. Even if it costs variety, I'd prefer to sit and have cheap and reasonable food with good service.

I commend the 2.25 sodas. Cheapest sodas in the con by far. Not enough to make the price palatable still. I realize it's more work, but looking into lowering prices should definitely create a draw.

As for maid service, indeed, a vast improvement. Most of the pro-points you all told me or have listed here, so I don't have to go into it.

I do feel though that ordering system needs to be improved. Lining up, ordering food, then sitting down at a table proved to confuse some of the people in my group. I'll admit that some of the people in my group were.... a bit retarded... but to people who don't know what maid cafes are, there are some terrible potential slip-ups. In the case of ordering food, the staff working at the reg sometimes gave us the food or drink before we even sat down, sort of defeating the purpose of having maids serve us. Then, we had one of my party members walk off trying to get his own seat with his food. I think an improvement to this structure would be taking orders after people are sat down. Of course, this may get a bit more messier when you're handling the bill at the end.

In any case, you guys did good this year. I'll be writing my article with fairly high marks and I'll forward you guys a copy when I'm done.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 27, 2008, 01:21:07 AM
Quote from: The Sax on May 27, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
Hey Jun, it's teh Reimu with no balls.

After meeting with you on Saturday, I also went back with friends to have a snack at the cafe. We all enjoyed ourselves there. Food prices were, again, a bit on the steep side; if there's anything that needs improvement, you guys really need to plan what's being offered in terms of food and lower prices. Even if it costs variety, I'd prefer to sit and have cheap and reasonable food with good service.

I commend the 2.25 sodas. Cheapest sodas in the con by far. Not enough to make the price palatable still. I realize it's more work, but looking into lowering prices should definitely create a draw.

As for maid service, indeed, a vast improvement. Most of the pro-points you all told me or have listed here, so I don't have to go into it.

I do feel though that ordering system needs to be improved. Lining up, ordering food, then sitting down at a table proved to confuse some of the people in my group. I'll admit that some of the people in my group were.... a bit retarded... but to people who don't know what maid cafes are, there are some terrible potential slip-ups. In the case of ordering food, the staff working at the reg sometimes gave us the food or drink before we even sat down, sort of defeating the purpose of having maids serve us. Then, we had one of my party members walk off trying to get his own seat with his food. I think an improvement to this structure would be taking orders after people are sat down. Of course, this may get a bit more messier when you're handling the bill at the end.

In any case, you guys did good this year. I'll be writing my article with fairly high marks and I'll forward you guys a copy when I'm done.

Hey, thanks. As for the food prices and how they were served, it actually wasn't really up to us. That's their own organization, of which we have to follow how they plan how they want to handle the food. Yeah, sucks, I know. Can't really do much about it, but hopefully we can try to change that next year.

As for them serving you...? If I were there when that had happened, I wouldn't have allowed it. I really wonder if they even had the permission to do that, because I doubt anyone else would've approved of it, either. But yeah, thanks for your input. I really enjoyed talking to you about the cafe, and am glad that you appreciate the improvements. My e-mail is [email protected] so feel free to e-mail me the article once you're done. I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

Oh yeah, are you hitting up AX or Otakon? It was pretty fun hanging out with you, too.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: SukieNeko on May 27, 2008, 04:44:26 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 26, 2008, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: SukieNeko on May 26, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
This was the first time I went to the maid cafe and I really enjoyed it. Getting to take pictures with the maids was a nice touch:P One thing I would reccomend is try to have the maids learn a few Japanese phrases such as Okaerinasaimase (welcome home. Something that maids usually say to customers when they first arrive.) Perhaps you did this, but I don't recall my maid using any Japanese. That was perfectly fine though and is just a suggestion. Still, it was great and I enjoyed myself.

Actually, I did train them to use "Okaerinasai" and "Itterasshaimase", and referring to their customers as "Goshujinsama" and "Ojousama" but time was limited to press them to practice one-on-one. Also, a few had trouble pronouncing the phrases, so we gave them the option of saying the English counterparts in place of the Japanese ones, instead of forcing them to speak a new language.

Also, it was encouraged to speak English the majority of the time, outside of the phrases, to prevent a distanced relationship with customers that don't understand Japanese. The only ones I would've recommended speaking further Japanese with were with the guests from Japan that only spoke English. The Gainax people had a pretty fun sense of humor.

I'm really happy with the feedback so far, though. I had fun talking to my own customers as well.

Cool, cool. It's definitely understandable that some of them chose to use english more than the Japanese. Still, it was a great cafe and I enjoyed myself.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Touya no Miko on May 27, 2008, 09:52:43 AM
Hey guys, one of the maids here. You might remember me as the maid with the rose in her hair. Anyway, working at the maid cafe this year was fun. Tiring, but fun. I really enjoyed serving food to everyone and having conversations with them like fellow con goers. Don't have many complaints, except it was pretty complicated when we opened on Saturday. We didn't use a numbering system like on Sunday, so trying to memorize what the guests ordered was difficult, especially if you have a short memory (points to self).

A shame most of our maids dropped out, since I heard that there was only one maid to serve everyone on Sunday around 11:00. It was a good thing that it was slow. But the guests were friendly and they really liked my maid outfit. One guest made my picture into his screensaver o_o! Meeting the other maids was fun too, you'll be seeing me next year for sure!
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Eurobeat King on May 27, 2008, 09:57:26 AM
Jun: sorry i wasn't able to come by and say hello or take pictures of the maids during the morning shifts..  I was so busy throughout the days taking pictures of cosplayers by the Fountains area, and the only time I stopped by the Maid Cafe was on Saturday & Sunday when I was returning to my room at the Hilton to rest & recharge for the evening.  I took a few pictures of the maids who were there, and then had to go. 

Again, sorry I missed you and the morning-shift maids this year.   :'(
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kandybar on May 27, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
I think we must have stopped by at a busy time (it was ~3:30 on Saturday) because we didn't actually get very much attention from our maid - we did have one seat us and bring us our food, but other than greeting us and asking if we needed anything else, we didn't have any contact.  A different maid took away our dishes when we left.  I suspect it was probably the guest to maid ratio but some interaction would have been nice.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 27, 2008, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: Kandybar on May 27, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
I think we must have stopped by at a busy time (it was ~3:30 on Saturday) because we didn't actually get very much attention from our maid - we did have one seat us and bring us our food, but other than greeting us and asking if we needed anything else, we didn't have any contact.  A different maid took away our dishes when we left.  I suspect it was probably the guest to maid ratio but some interaction would have been nice.

It might've been busy. Truth is, 20 maids dropped out of the project the day before the event happened due to timing or not being able to/wanting to work. I'm sorry you hadn't gotten interaction with your maid. What they should've done was ask you if they would like your company, but also, in mind that if people already look preoccupied and interacting with themselves, maids tend not to feel inclined to interrupt outside of asking if you need anything or helping you serve more food. Still, I hope you had a good time. The ratio did make things tougher, but next time, we will all try harder to make everyone satisfied.

Quote from: Eurobeat King on May 27, 2008, 09:57:26 AM
Jun: sorry i wasn't able to come by and say hello or take pictures of the maids during the morning shifts..  I was so busy throughout the days taking pictures of cosplayers by the Fountains area, and the only time I stopped by the Maid Cafe was on Saturday & Sunday when I was returning to my room at the Hilton to rest & recharge for the evening.  I took a few pictures of the maids who were there, and then had to go. 

Again, sorry I missed you and the morning-shift maids this year.   :'(

Nah, it's coo. There's always next year, and it is expected to be awesome.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Sucrose on May 27, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
It's a shame Fructose and I weren't able to dedicate ourselves to being maids this year like we were last year, but we did our part by coming by on Saturday afternoon...I can't comment on how it was as a patron last year, but with the larger space and all it looked as though it was a lot easier for the patrons to spend time chatting and eating. Since the maids didn't have to shuffle people in and out super-quickly, it looked like there was more leeway to sit down and get acquainted, which was great (although it's a shame to hear that so many maids dropped out so early--but it seemed like the participating maids were handling things capably and smoothly, at least when we were there). I think our maid's name was Nicole? or some N name (I'm sorry, I'm terrible with names), and she was awesome. She was really friendly and attentive, and gave us little flower pins at the end. It was the little details like that that made the experience really memorable; I'm going to remember the chatting and the flower pin rather than how much we paid for our tiny little shared piece of cake. I hope the Cafe can keep the larger space next year, and if I'm able I'd really like to be able to participate as a maid again.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 27, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
Quote from: Sucrose on May 27, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
It's a shame Fructose and I weren't able to dedicate ourselves to being maids this year like we were last year, but we did our part by coming by on Saturday afternoon...I can't comment on how it was as a patron last year, but with the larger space and all it looked as though it was a lot easier for the patrons to spend time chatting and eating. Since the maids didn't have to shuffle people in and out super-quickly, it looked like there was more leeway to sit down and get acquainted, which was great (although it's a shame to hear that so many maids dropped out so early--but it seemed like the participating maids were handling things capably and smoothly, at least when we were there). I think our maid's name was Nicole? or some N name (I'm sorry, I'm terrible with names), and she was awesome. She was really friendly and attentive, and gave us little flower pins at the end. It was the little details like that that made the experience really memorable; I'm going to remember the chatting and the flower pin rather than how much we paid for our tiny little shared piece of cake. I hope the Cafe can keep the larger space next year, and if I'm able I'd really like to be able to participate as a maid again.

Please do! Both our maids and patrons had fun interacting and exchanging gifts this year, and chances are, we might make even more fun plans to advance into our next year. I'm glad you had an enjoyable stay. It would be nice to have you back.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Mordyan on May 27, 2008, 08:12:25 PM
I thought the space was really nice this year. While the slightly high prices were a bit daunting the cake was very good and the girls were super polite. We came at a busy time when almost all the tables were full, so the girls didnt get to the full attention at our table as I have heard from others but it was a very enjoyable. It was also nice not having to wait in line this year. I look forward to it next year.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: mDuo13 on May 27, 2008, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: Kandybar on May 27, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
I think we must have stopped by at a busy time (it was ~3:30 on Saturday) because we didn't actually get very much attention from our maid - we did have one seat us and bring us our food, but other than greeting us and asking if we needed anything else, we didn't have any contact.  A different maid took away our dishes when we left.  I suspect it was probably the guest to maid ratio but some interaction would have been nice.
My experience was almost pretty similar to this until Jerry sat down to chat with us (to take one of his enforced breaks, God knows he deserved it) and Jun dropped by, too. None of the other maids offered more interaction than simple (and shy) restaurant-style service though. Saturday afternoon was definitely really busy - so I guess recruitment of more maids would be a top priority for next year.

The food was, as expected, vastly overpriced, but actually not horrible quality, which was a welcome surprise.

The improved, larger space was awesome though.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 27, 2008, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Mordyan on May 27, 2008, 08:12:25 PM
I thought the space was really nice this year. While the slightly high prices were a bit daunting the cake was very good and the girls were super polite. We came at a busy time when almost all the tables were full, so the girls didnt get to the full attention at our table as I have heard from others but it was a very enjoyable. It was also nice not having to wait in line this year. I look forward to it next year.

The lack of interaction was probably due to our shortage of maids, but this will definitely change next year. The space and line were a big improvement many people appreciated. I hope you had enjoyed your stay at the cafe this year.

Quote from: mDuo13 on May 27, 2008, 08:32:41 PM
My experience was almost pretty similar to this until Jerry sat down to chat with us (to take one of his enforced breaks, God knows he deserved it) and Jun dropped by, too. None of the other maids offered more interaction than simple (and shy) restaurant-style service though. Saturday afternoon was definitely really busy - so I guess recruitment of more maids would be a top priority for next year.

The food was, as expected, vastly overpriced, but actually not horrible quality, which was a welcome surprise.

The improved, larger space was awesome though.

Yes. Jerry definitely needed a break. Sorry I couldn't stick around for long, as I had to sit down with other customers at the time. FOR SURE, recruiting an adequate amount of maids is absolute top priority. Having 20 maids drop out at the last minute was very distressing. As for food, that was possibly the main complaint of the cafe every year. Sadly, I'm not sure if anything could be done about that as the service that serves food is apart from the maid cafe itself. The space was a nice improvement-- less cramp and a nice atmosphere. I'm glad you enjoyed the cafe, though. Stop by next year, and I'll be sure to manage more maids to interact with our patrons.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Tony on May 28, 2008, 03:22:28 PM
Unfortunately the facilities request got a little messed up at the last minute and there were additional tables added... that didn't help with the shortage of maids. Kudos to Jun, Sydney, and the maid cafe staff for making do!
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Steve.Young on May 28, 2008, 03:33:03 PM
Maid Cafe needs more sexy bouncers IMO.

;D
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kazuko on May 28, 2008, 03:41:59 PM
I went sunday and yeah the price for a juice thing was redonculous but ANYWHO

My critique was only one maid came and talked to us at our table, shes so cute. but everyone else was either waiting near the front when there was no people or just walked arround. I felt like I was eating at a dennys but yeah the atmosphere was pretty dull in regards that no one was there XP so i felt a bit dissapointed.

Super Kudos to Jun for their traning although body language should be put in as well. One of the girls stood too stifly i wanted to relaaax but oh well.

I liked it none the less
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Well... err, I guess you'll be disappointed when you come every year, then, because this is a... maid cafe. It isn't a butler cafe. If you want one, then make a request or ask someone capable to join staff and organize it. As for them leaning over you, trying to be sexy, somehow I think you misinterpreted it, but I'll see that nothing promiscuous ever happens with our maids within the cafe while serving their patrons next year. As for you wanting them to leave you alone, the POINT of a maid cafe is to have a girl playing the role as a maid serving you and having interactions with your customers. These are all to be expected when you're visiting a maid cafe, otherwise, something is very wrong.

Sorry you were disappointed, but if you wanted a regular cafe, maybe you should've went to Hydration.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Well... err, I guess you'll be disappointed when you come every year, then, because this is a... maid cafe. It isn't a butler cafe. If you want one, then make a request or ask someone capable to join staff and organize it. As for them leaning over you, trying to be sexy, somehow I think you misinterpreted it, but I'll see that nothing promiscuous ever happens with our maids within the cafe while serving their patrons next year. As for you wanting them to leave you alone, the POINT of a maid cafe is to have a girl playing the role as a maid serving you and having interactions with your customers. These are all to be expected when you're visiting a maid cafe, otherwise, something is very wrong.

Sorry you were disappointed, but if you wanted a regular cafe, maybe you should've went to Hydration.

;p It wasn't sexy, nor cute though.. V_V I guess that's just how i see it. Hm, my apologies.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: lacus on May 28, 2008, 05:34:19 PM
My friends came by and they said the food are actually pretty good comparing to other places in the convention.
(and yes they are overpriced as other places too)

i brought a tuna salad sandwich after my shift (as my friends recommended) and it tastes really good with fresh lemon juice =D I was surprised!
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: PyronIkari on May 28, 2008, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Reading this. You seem to not understand what a Maid Cafe is at all.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kaura117 on May 28, 2008, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Well... err, I guess you'll be disappointed when you come every year, then, because this is a... maid cafe. It isn't a butler cafe. If you want one, then make a request or ask someone capable to join staff and organize it. As for them leaning over you, trying to be sexy, somehow I think you misinterpreted it, but I'll see that nothing promiscuous ever happens with our maids within the cafe while serving their patrons next year. As for you wanting them to leave you alone, the POINT of a maid cafe is to have a girl playing the role as a maid serving you and having interactions with your customers. These are all to be expected when you're visiting a maid cafe, otherwise, something is very wrong.

Sorry you were disappointed, but if you wanted a regular cafe, maybe you should've went to Hydration.

;p It wasn't sexy, nor cute though.. V_V I guess that's just how i see it. Hm, my apologies.

You... uh... you're not too informed about what a Maid Cafe's supposed to be about, are you? They're... maids. They're supposed to make the guest feel welcomed and attended to, basically. And, uh, that's it. The libido isn't the focus.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Mister_E on May 28, 2008, 08:10:22 PM
I enjoyed my time there, the food wasn't crazy expensive the service was kind and helpful.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kaura117 on May 28, 2008, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Well... err, I guess you'll be disappointed when you come every year, then, because this is a... maid cafe. It isn't a butler cafe. If you want one, then make a request or ask someone capable to join staff and organize it. As for them leaning over you, trying to be sexy, somehow I think you misinterpreted it, but I'll see that nothing promiscuous ever happens with our maids within the cafe while serving their patrons next year. As for you wanting them to leave you alone, the POINT of a maid cafe is to have a girl playing the role as a maid serving you and having interactions with your customers. These are all to be expected when you're visiting a maid cafe, otherwise, something is very wrong.

Sorry you were disappointed, but if you wanted a regular cafe, maybe you should've went to Hydration.

Actually, on the note of butler cafes, have there been any demand for any? It might just be me, but I've seen what appears to be a greater parity in gender representation at anime cons- and my initial suspicion is that there has been requests for a butler cafe for the ladyfolks.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: Kaura117 on May 28, 2008, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Well... err, I guess you'll be disappointed when you come every year, then, because this is a... maid cafe. It isn't a butler cafe. If you want one, then make a request or ask someone capable to join staff and organize it. As for them leaning over you, trying to be sexy, somehow I think you misinterpreted it, but I'll see that nothing promiscuous ever happens with our maids within the cafe while serving their patrons next year. As for you wanting them to leave you alone, the POINT of a maid cafe is to have a girl playing the role as a maid serving you and having interactions with your customers. These are all to be expected when you're visiting a maid cafe, otherwise, something is very wrong.

Sorry you were disappointed, but if you wanted a regular cafe, maybe you should've went to Hydration.

Actually, on the note of butler cafes, have there been any demand for any? It might just be me, but I've seen what appears to be a greater parity in gender representation at anime cons- and my initial suspicion is that there has been requests for a butler cafe for the ladyfolks.

There has been a demand on a butler cafe, but at the moment, it'd be too difficult to run one properly as it's more complicated to do so than a maid cafe. Maid cafes already have a pretty intricate culture to them, but with butler cafes, it is very important to find adequate people to work in them, rather than just having them undergo rigorous training.

Though, if it is possible for us to do so, I'll discuss with Pyron what his opinion of how it should be done in terms of training, but at the moment, the circumstances don't grant the possibility of one happening any time soon. Maybe a spin-off cafe with guys, but not specifically a butler cafe persay.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kaura117 on May 28, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: Kaura117 on May 28, 2008, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: o0Mutsu0o on May 28, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Guh, i can say i was dissapointed...


V___V Maybe this is mean, or i dont know enough about it..

But the fact that i paid an arm for a piece of cake wasn't what got me...

it was the fact that...


>___< Where were the males? /sob

Something about another female leaning over to me..trying to be sexy.. ( that and the fact that they literally looked 10...) was slightly creepy... just give me my cake..and let me dust off my boots....

xD even a cute one would have done...bah, maybe i'm just mean... But me and my pals were sitting there like " UGHHH???" when i went on about it.... oh well... maybe i'm just stupid?

Well... err, I guess you'll be disappointed when you come every year, then, because this is a... maid cafe. It isn't a butler cafe. If you want one, then make a request or ask someone capable to join staff and organize it. As for them leaning over you, trying to be sexy, somehow I think you misinterpreted it, but I'll see that nothing promiscuous ever happens with our maids within the cafe while serving their patrons next year. As for you wanting them to leave you alone, the POINT of a maid cafe is to have a girl playing the role as a maid serving you and having interactions with your customers. These are all to be expected when you're visiting a maid cafe, otherwise, something is very wrong.

Sorry you were disappointed, but if you wanted a regular cafe, maybe you should've went to Hydration.

Actually, on the note of butler cafes, have there been any demand for any? It might just be me, but I've seen what appears to be a greater parity in gender representation at anime cons- and my initial suspicion is that there has been requests for a butler cafe for the ladyfolks.

There has been a demand on a butler cafe, but at the moment, it'd be too difficult to run one properly as it's more complicated to do so than a maid cafe. Maid cafes already have a pretty intricate culture to them, but with butler cafes, it is very important to find adequate people to work in them, rather than just having them undergo rigorous training.

Though, if it is possible for us to do so, I'll discuss with Pyron what his opinion of how it should be done in terms of training, but at the moment, the circumstances don't grant the possibility of one happening any time soon. Maybe a spin-off cafe with guys, but not specifically a butler cafe persay.

Ah-hah. I figured as much. Thanks for answerin'.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: swtluck on May 28, 2008, 10:24:26 PM
hello,

i'm one of the maids from the maid cafe. this was my first year to participate for the maid cafe. it was awkward at first, but i got used to it quickly. and i have to say i throughly enjoyed it especially interacting with other con-goers. it nice to meet and social with other con-goers that way.

i also heard it was super busy on saturday after i left around 2:30ish to 5... i'm truly sorry to hear that. due to that we were short handed. the girls were so happy  to see me when i came back onto shift to help.

i'm will be volunteering next time for the maid cafe. and i know there will be more improvements. and hopefully there weren't  be a major drops of volunteers the next time  around.

see you guys the next fanime.... and hopefully i will be your maid or something. and i will bring my paper stars... i'll make a stars for you out of paper. lol if i remember to bring them.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 28, 2008, 10:30:09 PM
Quote from: swtluck on May 28, 2008, 10:24:26 PM
hello,

i'm one of the maids from the maid cafe. this was my first year to participate for the maid cafe. it was awkward at first, but i got used to it quickly. and i have to say i throughly enjoyed it especially interacting with other con-goers. it nice to meet and social with other con-goers that way.

i also heard it was super busy on saturday after i left around 2:30ish to 5... i'm truly sorry to hear that. due to that we were short handed. the girls were so happy  to see me when i came back onto shift to help.

i'm will be volunteering next time for the maid cafe. and i know there will be more improvements. and hopefully there weren't  be a major drops of volunteers the next time  around.

see you guys the next fanime.... and hopefully i will be your maid or something. and i will bring my paper stars... i'll make a stars for you out of paper. lol if i remember to bring them.

Hello! I'm glad to hear that you had fun being a maid, this year. Hope you will have an even better time in the next. Expect to work a little harder, though! A lot of things were done at the last minute, but this will change this year. Thanks for all your hard work so far in helping our little cafe become a huge success.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: thelifeoftehparty on May 29, 2008, 02:40:07 AM
Hi hi! Another maid here~ (the one with the strip of pink hair, if anyone recalls). Anyway, this was my first year as a maid as well, and i had super fun. :D
Sorry i changed shifts on Sunday, i didn't even wake up until 11, and i got there at 12. Dx 

But anyways, i could tell that a lot of the patrons (or mine, at least) don't really know what a maid cafe is like... because none of them really wanted to talk with me or anything. ;__; It kind of made me feel unloved. 3: However most of my patrons were really nice though.... one group requested i teach them the Soulja boy and Hare Hare Yukai... and another wanted me to tell them jokes... Ahaha. But i'm looking forward to working again next year! 8Db



And i loved that Alice in Wonderland cosplay group as well. =w= I was happy i got to mix their tea. Teehee~!
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: *rei* on May 29, 2008, 10:56:05 AM
hello! another maid checkin in!

This year was my first year volunteering as a maid at the cafe. It was a great experience for me to have been able to meet other con goers through the cafe.

Quote from: thelifeoftehparty on May 29, 2008, 02:40:07 AM
But anyways, i could tell that a lot of the patrons (or mine, at least) don't really know what a maid cafe is like... because none of them really wanted to talk with me or anything.

I agree with thelifeoftehparty that I feel most of our patrons didnt know what to expect from a maid cafe. All of my patrons were very nice and I had enjoyed talking with them. I had a party of two who were from the press that didnt know anything about maid cafes, they had me explain the concept to them. From then on I really enjoyed interacting with them as they did with me. I was asked to make a paper crane for them (after finding out we lacked pencils or pens to draw with). In return one of the patrons made a paper plane for me. It was an enjoyable experience!

I am looking forward to helping again next year for longer hours. If I had known we had a shortage early in the morning I would have been available to help, but alas my shift started at 2pm. Till next year!  :)
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: swtluck on May 29, 2008, 11:13:30 AM
*rei*- hon,  did you get the email with the pics i send ya?  (b'_'b)

Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: RoverRoy009 on May 29, 2008, 11:30:35 AM
After speaking with our Maid Managers: Kegan and Courtney - yes improvments and new suggests are always good.

Line Control was not an issue compared to Reg lines or An Cafe.

We DO have to improve the orders/food placement. Kegan made up a good idea with service numbers (like a fast food restaurant) with receipt to make sure everyone got their items correctly and promptly. Kudo's to Kegan.

Yes. we were drastically understaffed this year. With the larger space it seemed like we didnt have enough maids and pockets of guest didnt get the attention they were looking for, but at least had a nice quiet place to enjoy their expensive meals.

Male servants/Maids have been joked or mentioned before, but again we didnt get any request from volunteers and we did have 1 butler but he didnt have an "servant training" to what would go along with the 'maid cafe' feel. Maybe Jun could look into it and if possible we'll add it to the event next year. Kudos to ZoupZoup.

Other than that overall a vast improvement, but due to the location and lack of staff it felt smaller and pleasantly "cozy" but we'll throw out more ideas in the efforts of making this a worthwhile event/cafe.

As for me, I'm also sorry for leaving early, but battling a line of 1500+ was quite a feat. I'll try to actually work LESS next year.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Sen on May 29, 2008, 12:52:54 PM
This was my first time at the Maid Cafe. Francesca was the maid for my party (because I asked her to  ;D). She did an excellent job and even lifted my friend's origami curse so that he can now fold origami. We later decorated our centerpiece with our folded pieces.

I definitely had a relaxing and fun time there. I felt refreshed before going back to my duties at con. I loved how we could leave whenever we wanted to since it wasn't too busy. I'm also trying to find the group picture that we took, but I can't remember who's camera it is on. Antonio, the head of reg, was there on a forced break and he thoroughly enjoyed it.  I think it's a lot more fun to have a large group of people with you.

The food left much to be desired, but that is not your fault. As a side note: I've seen the food prices for maid cafes in Tokyo and they're actually comparable. Weird.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: o0Mutsu0o on May 29, 2008, 01:05:38 PM
As I said, my apologies ;p
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: outcast on May 29, 2008, 02:10:45 PM
I believe that the maid cafe was a hit. The maids made you feel welcome and it was nice that they were smiling and having a good time. The food was good and it wasn't too expensive compared to the other food at the con.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: *rei* on May 29, 2008, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: swtluck on May 29, 2008, 11:13:30 AM
*rei*- hon,  did you get the email with the pics i send ya?  (b'_'b)

yes, dear! i did receive them! thank you soo much! i thought I wouldnt have any pictures of the maid cafe!
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: swtluck on May 29, 2008, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: *rei* on May 29, 2008, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: swtluck on May 29, 2008, 11:13:30 AM
*rei*- hon,  did you get the email with the pics i send ya?  (b'_'b)

yes, dear! i did receive them! thank you soo much! i thought I wouldnt have any pictures of the maid cafe!

goody!!

i want to thank all of our patrons who came to visit the maid cafe. i hope to see you guys all again next year and to the maids.... hope to see you guys again. ^^

also i have some of the pictures from the maid cafe. if you need or want please contact me!!!
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: openhappy on May 29, 2008, 09:46:58 PM
Arrr. I missed it. I went on monday and everything is gone. :(

The only pictures I have is her at the bottom.

http://www.openhappy.com/cosplay/fanime_2008_d1_08.php (http://www.openhappy.com/cosplay/fanime_2008_d1_08.php)

Very attractive indeed. Any more pictures from anyone? Hope to catch you guys next year.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on June 02, 2008, 10:45:40 PM
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee298%2Fshoegazer_tokyo%2Fmaidcafephoto_resize.jpg&hash=aa8d4a880fa39a6782c170a59de4c5514ce9e6c7)
Photo Courtesy of Richie a.k.a CaptainAhoge / RichieLikesMaids

Thank you, Fanime 2008!

Here's a photo of some of the maids on the first shift on Saturday, Fanime 2008. Hope all of you enjoyed being at/working with the maid cafe, and hopefully we'll see you next year! o/
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Ninj4 on June 06, 2008, 02:53:00 AM
Well hell.  If you're looking for support for the male equivalent of a Maid Cafe, I'm willing to offer my help and participation to see it get up and running.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jerry on June 06, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: Ninj4 on June 06, 2008, 02:53:00 AM
Well hell.  If you're looking for support for the male equivalent of a Maid Cafe, I'm willing to offer my help and participation to see it get up and running.

First things first. -
Jun will take measurements on the upper torso for measurments
and Pyron will take measurements on the lower (watch out for pinching instead of cupping).

Maid training will be fun/better next year. Bring your own- protective gear.
Jun WILL whip you into shape.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Ninj4 on June 06, 2008, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Jerry on June 06, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: Ninj4 on June 06, 2008, 02:53:00 AM
Well hell.  If you're looking for support for the male equivalent of a Maid Cafe, I'm willing to offer my help and participation to see it get up and running.

First things first. -
Jun will take measurements on the upper torso for measurments
and Pyron will take measurements on the lower (watch out for pinching instead of cupping).

Maid training will be fun/better next year. Bring your own- protective gear.
Jun WILL whip you into shape.

... When I said male equivalent of Maid cafe, I was thinking a host club, not a male maid cafe...  *shudder*

I don't think I'd be very pretty in a maid outfit. D:
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on June 06, 2008, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: Ninj4 on June 06, 2008, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Jerry on June 06, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: Ninj4 on June 06, 2008, 02:53:00 AM
Well hell.  If you're looking for support for the male equivalent of a Maid Cafe, I'm willing to offer my help and participation to see it get up and running.

First things first. -
Jun will take measurements on the upper torso for measurments
and Pyron will take measurements on the lower (watch out for pinching instead of cupping).

Maid training will be fun/better next year. Bring your own- protective gear.
Jun WILL whip you into shape.

... When I said male equivalent of Maid cafe, I was thinking a host club, not a male maid cafe...  *shudder*

I don't think I'd be very pretty in a maid outfit. D:

Again, maid cafes are already complicated enough to properly manage at a convention, in terms of culture and having volunteers understand what they're obligated to do. A host club is impossible. There are many reasons behind me saying that.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 04:30:33 PM
... A host club is NOT the male equivalent of a Maid Cafe. A host club is a male equivalent of a hostess bar. VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY different things.

The male equivalent of a maid cafe is a butler cafe.

A host/hostess club would be impossible to do in the states, because the decency laws and the what not we'd be breaking would be huge in number. A butler Cafe is feesible, but takes a lot of work and is rather different than a maid cafe.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 04:30:33 PM
... A host club is NOT the male equivalent of a Maid Cafe. A host club is a male equivalent of a hostess bar. VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY different things.

The male equivalent of a maid cafe is a butler cafe.

A host/hostess club would be impossible to do in the states, because the decency laws and the what not we'd be breaking would be huge in number. A butler Cafe is feasible, but takes a lot of work and is rather different than a maid cafe.
The main difference is instead of maids(women), you get butlers(men); Just curious, but what are the overall differences between a Maid Cafe and a Butler Cafe in terms of service, conduct/mannerisms, etc.?

(you seem to be the forum expert on this topic, so i pose this question to you)
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 08:55:53 PM

The main difference is instead of maids(women), you get butlers(men); Just curious, but what are the overall differences between a Maid Cafe and a Butler Cafe in terms of service, conduct/mannerisms, etc.?

(you seem to be the forum expert on this topic, so i pose this question to you)

Maids are expected to act more femininely and this allows them to show more character, personality and emotion. Butlers are different though. Butlers are expected to be extremely prim and proper, never speaking out of place, and doing and saying only what is absolutely needed. Maids are like mother figures(if they only lived to serve you). Butlers on the other hand don't have that leway. But within all of this, they have to be extremely charming and charismatic. Someone to look up to, but someone who doesn't show personality. It's conflicting, and it takes actual charisma and talent to be able to pull something off like that.

Or a simpler form, maids can be cute, butler's need to be very cool and collective, but not overstep their bounds.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 08:55:53 PM

The main difference is instead of maids(women), you get butlers(men); Just curious, but what are the overall differences between a Maid Cafe and a Butler Cafe in terms of service, conduct/mannerisms, etc.?

(you seem to be the forum expert on this topic, so i pose this question to you)

Maids are expected to act more femininely and this allows them to show more character, personality and emotion. Butlers are different though. Butlers are expected to be extremely prim and proper, never speaking out of place, and doing and saying only what is absolutely needed. Maids are like mother figures(if they only lived to serve you). Butlers on the other hand don't have that leway. But within all of this, they have to be extremely charming and charismatic. Someone to look up to, but someone who doesn't show personality. It's conflicting, and it takes actual charisma and talent to be able to pull something off like that.

Or a simpler form, maids can be cute, butler's need to be very cool and collective, but not overstep their bounds.
Taking into account the overall results/feedback of this year as well as last years' Maid Cafe, would it be feasible(in your personal opinion) to attempt a split format with one day being Maid Cafe and the other consisting of a Butler Cafe, to switch to a Butler Cafe for both days, or to keep it as is?
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on June 06, 2008, 10:33:10 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 08:55:53 PM

The main difference is instead of maids(women), you get butlers(men); Just curious, but what are the overall differences between a Maid Cafe and a Butler Cafe in terms of service, conduct/mannerisms, etc.?

(you seem to be the forum expert on this topic, so i pose this question to you)

Maids are expected to act more femininely and this allows them to show more character, personality and emotion. Butlers are different though. Butlers are expected to be extremely prim and proper, never speaking out of place, and doing and saying only what is absolutely needed. Maids are like mother figures(if they only lived to serve you). Butlers on the other hand don't have that leway. But within all of this, they have to be extremely charming and charismatic. Someone to look up to, but someone who doesn't show personality. It's conflicting, and it takes actual charisma and talent to be able to pull something off like that.

Or a simpler form, maids can be cute, butler's need to be very cool and collective, but not overstep their bounds.
Taking into account the overall results/feedback of this year as well as last years' Maid Cafe, would it be feasible(in your personal opinion) to attempt a split format with one day being Maid Cafe and the other consisting of a Butler Cafe, to switch to a Butler Cafe for both days, or to keep it as is?

No, please no.

I'll let Mikey explain it. I'm exhausted.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
Besides the fact that no one will run it(outside of maybe me, and I wouldn't want to do a butler cafe), who would volunteer and be able to do the job? Frankly... the Fanime group isn't the most... charismatic of people to say the least.

There's enough trouble running the Maid Cafe as it is *insert me talking shit about how it's run here*. Unless it's actually run well, and everything happens... say... before a month and a half before the con, then there might be a possibility in 2 years. Again though, not going to happen. I doubt qualified volunteers will show up.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: otakuapprentice on June 06, 2008, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on June 06, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
Besides the fact that no one will run it(outside of maybe me, and I wouldn't want to do a butler cafe), who would volunteer and be able to do the job? Frankly... the Fanime group isn't the most... charismatic of people to say the least.

There's enough trouble running the Maid Cafe as it is *insert me talking shit about how it's run here*. Unless it's actually run well, and everything happens... say... before a month and a half before the con, then there might be a possibility in 2 years. Again though, not going to happen. I doubt qualified volunteers will show up.
and this is the response i expected; meh, didn't hurt to ask, so i drop the subject for now.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: swtluck on June 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..

yes, maid in akihabara. it about six episode long and its about  a woman named Saki, an ex-bar girl, tries to find a job to hide from a group of yakuza. She ends up getting a job at a Maid cafe called Meido no miyage (Maid's gift). She is the third maid to be joining the cafe. She was homeless and starts living in a 24-hour internet cafe.

i have it watched it all; very cute, a little odd at time, but its worth watching to see how it is at a maid cafe. i have it on my portable hard drive. i'll show it to you guys next time when we have are meeting next year if you guys didn't watch yet. ^^
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: lacus on June 08, 2008, 11:39:35 PM
Quote from: swtluck on June 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..

yes, maid in akihabara. it about six episode long and its about  a woman named Saki, an ex-bar girl, tries to find a job to hide from a group of yakuza. She ends up getting a job at a Maid cafe called Meido no miyage (Maid's gift). She is the third maid to be joining the cafe. She was homeless and starts living in a 24-hour internet cafe.

i have it watched it all; very cute, a little odd at time, but its worth watching to see how it is at a maid cafe. i have it on my portable hard drive. i'll show it to you guys next time when we have are meeting next year if you guys didn't watch yet. ^^

The video is actually an interview with one of the maid cafes in akihabara.

And yes! I know the "maid in akihabara" videos you are talking about ^_____^ I just got a DVD from my friend and he said it is extremely funny. I'm gonna watch it now xD
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on June 09, 2008, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: swtluck on June 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..

yes, maid in akihabara. it about six episode long and its about  a woman named Saki, an ex-bar girl, tries to find a job to hide from a group of yakuza. She ends up getting a job at a Maid cafe called Meido no miyage (Maid's gift). She is the third maid to be joining the cafe. She was homeless and starts living in a 24-hour internet cafe.

i have it watched it all; very cute, a little odd at time, but its worth watching to see how it is at a maid cafe. i have it on my portable hard drive. i'll show it to you guys next time when we have are meeting next year if you guys didn't watch yet. ^^

No offense, but why are you referring to Maid in Akihabara? The video that she posted isn't.

But yeah, while that series was relatively entertaining, I find it to be poor material to be using when teaching a maid's duties. It does describe them well, but they can be interpreted in many ways-- and that isn't the safest way to be teaching a working procedure. It could be shown for entertainment, but not for information.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: PyronIkari on June 09, 2008, 02:22:06 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on June 09, 2008, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: swtluck on June 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..

yes, maid in akihabara. it about six episode long and its about  a woman named Saki, an ex-bar girl, tries to find a job to hide from a group of yakuza. She ends up getting a job at a Maid cafe called Meido no miyage (Maid's gift). She is the third maid to be joining the cafe. She was homeless and starts living in a 24-hour internet cafe.

i have it watched it all; very cute, a little odd at time, but its worth watching to see how it is at a maid cafe. i have it on my portable hard drive. i'll show it to you guys next time when we have are meeting next year if you guys didn't watch yet. ^^

No offense, but why are you referring to Maid in Akihabara? The video that she posted isn't.

But yeah, while that series was relatively entertaining, I find it to be poor material to be using when teaching a maid's duties. It does describe them well, but they can be interpreted in many ways-- and that isn't the safest way to be teaching a working procedure. It could be shown for entertainment, but not for information.

One of the good things about Maid in Akihabara, is that it differentiates the idea of a "hostess" and a "maid". It shows that a maid although is supposed to be sexually appealing, they aren't supposed to act or be seen as sexual. Compared to a hostess who is basically using sexual appeal as the whole reason she's serving.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on June 09, 2008, 02:27:00 AM
Quote from: PyronIkari on June 09, 2008, 02:22:06 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on June 09, 2008, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: swtluck on June 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..

yes, maid in akihabara. it about six episode long and its about  a woman named Saki, an ex-bar girl, tries to find a job to hide from a group of yakuza. She ends up getting a job at a Maid cafe called Meido no miyage (Maid's gift). She is the third maid to be joining the cafe. She was homeless and starts living in a 24-hour internet cafe.

i have it watched it all; very cute, a little odd at time, but its worth watching to see how it is at a maid cafe. i have it on my portable hard drive. i'll show it to you guys next time when we have are meeting next year if you guys didn't watch yet. ^^

No offense, but why are you referring to Maid in Akihabara? The video that she posted isn't.

But yeah, while that series was relatively entertaining, I find it to be poor material to be using when teaching a maid's duties. It does describe them well, but they can be interpreted in many ways-- and that isn't the safest way to be teaching a working procedure. It could be shown for entertainment, but not for information.

One of the good things about Maid in Akihabara, is that it differentiates the idea of a "hostess" and a "maid". It shows that a maid although is supposed to be sexually appealing, they aren't supposed to act or be seen as sexual. Compared to a hostess who is basically using sexual appeal as the whole reason she's serving.

I've already had that in mind from the beginning of this project, but to those who are very new to the idea of maid cafes in general, I'm afraid of using material like this because of how widely they can be misinterpreted and judged differently from differences in interests and culture. It's hard for me to say this on the public forum, but while our volunteers are very willing to give the cafe their all, their interests may not be of that of moe/akiba-kei, find this sort of material intimidating and scare them off. Ha. Ha.

Yes, it does make the distinct differences between maid cafes and hostess bars... but I do refer to the differences in my lesson and stress how important the differences are. No need to even show Maid in Akihabara.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: swtluck on June 09, 2008, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on June 09, 2008, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: swtluck on June 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: lacus on June 08, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
I just saw this vid online..akihabara maid cafe

I think maybe we could show it during the next maid cafe training or promotion.
So the maids have some idea about how it is like in akihabara ^__________^

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cfrl_cosplaycafe_travel

I have some maid cafe pictures too..im going to post theme later..

yes, maid in akihabara. it about six episode long and its about  a woman named Saki, an ex-bar girl, tries to find a job to hide from a group of yakuza. She ends up getting a job at a Maid cafe called Meido no miyage (Maid's gift). She is the third maid to be joining the cafe. She was homeless and starts living in a 24-hour internet cafe.

i have it watched it all; very cute, a little odd at time, but its worth watching to see how it is at a maid cafe. i have it on my portable hard drive. i'll show it to you guys next time when we have are meeting next year if you guys didn't watch yet. ^^

No offense, but why are you referring to Maid in Akihabara? The video that she posted isn't.

But yeah, while that series was relatively entertaining, I find it to be poor material to be using when teaching a maid's duties. It does describe them well, but they can be interpreted in many ways-- and that isn't the safest way to be teaching a working procedure. It could be shown for entertainment, but not for information.

its a misunderstand. at first i thought she was talking about maid in akihabara. but i actually looked into the link after i posted the message.

Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: swtluck on June 09, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
so sorry.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: lacus on June 10, 2008, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: swtluck on June 09, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
so sorry.

its okay dont worry about it!
[maid in akihabara] is the most famous video clips about maid cafe anyway.
i just finished the series...its really funny. although some of the parts are kinda ridiculous that make me sweat and laugh lol
and I like the ending too~~ =D
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on June 10, 2008, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: swtluck on June 09, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
so sorry.

Nah, nothing to be sorry about at all. It's good to see our volunteers doing their best to be helpful. I WILL show videos at next year's training, though. I intended to, this year, but we didn't have the equipment to do so. I might bring my laptop, most likely... if I can't get my hands on a TV set to connect to.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: yoshi on September 20, 2008, 12:47:19 AM
Hi all. I think that the maid cafe should actually be in a more enclosed area, such as a panel room. The reason for this is so that the environment can be better controlled. You could put stuff up on the walls, set up special lighting, and create a more exclusive environment. That's what the maid cafe needs most. Having the maid cafe (as in the last two years) in an open area just does not help create the right environment. No maid cafes in Japan are out in the open.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on September 20, 2008, 02:53:13 AM
Quote from: yoshi on September 20, 2008, 12:47:19 AM
Hi all. I think that the maid cafe should actually be in a more enclosed area, such as a panel room. The reason for this is so that the environment can be better controlled. You could put stuff up on the walls, set up special lighting, and create a more exclusive environment. That's what the maid cafe needs most. Having the maid cafe (as in the last two years) in an open area just does not help create the right environment. No maid cafes in Japan are out in the open.

Thank you for the suggestion.

However, while I am fully aware of how a standard maid cafe's environment should be, some things are out of our control. Space assigned is dependent on the convention's circumstances, but perhaps we will try to suggest occupying a panel room the following year. The reason for the large space this year was due to the fact that the previous year had trafficking issues, and the obvious improvement was to expand the available space. I'm not entirely sure how space is managed, as I was not the organizer for this or the previous year.

I am also aware of how a maid cafe's decor should ideally be, however the organization that we work with to provide the space for us does not allow anything to be on the walls, and electrical equipment would also be beyond our control. I can't say that I'm satisfied with the conditions, myself, and I also do agree that they are inadequate-- however, I do believe FanimeCon is doing whatever they can to improve what they are able to control. The maid cafe is a very new project in FanimeCon, so I do not expect to be able to acquire every single detail as desired. We are taking the necessarily steps to gain the ability to portray an authentic maid cafe as closely as possible, I assure you. Sorry if the conditions aren't up to par as of yet, but as this project develops, I'm sure improvements will be made in the future to be up to standards.

- Maid trainer, Jun
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 12:18:38 PM
I know this would offend many people, but my brother and his friends didn't think most of the girls were cute/pretty enough. Of course trying to expect Fanime's maid cafe to be on the level of one of Japan's is a bit foolish and I don't think we're in a position to pick and choose since they're all volunteers.

But yeah, just something to put out there. I'm sure there are a lot of guys like him that attend. (lol socialite azns) ;l
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on November 23, 2008, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 12:18:38 PM
I know this would offend many people, but my brother and his friends didn't think most of the girls were cute/pretty enough. Of course trying to expect Fanime's maid cafe to be on the level of one of Japan's is a bit foolish and I don't think we're in a position to pick and choose since they're all volunteers.

But yeah, just something to put out there. I'm sure there are a lot of guys like him that attend. (lol socialite azns) ;l

I'll send you a PM.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kazuko on November 23, 2008, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 12:18:38 PM
I know this would offend many people, but my brother and his friends didn't think most of the girls were cute/pretty enough. Of course trying to expect Fanime's maid cafe to be on the level of one of Japan's is a bit foolish and I don't think we're in a position to pick and choose since they're all volunteers.

But yeah, just something to put out there. I'm sure there are a lot of guys like him that attend. (lol socialite azns) ;l
One of my friends said that too actually, weeeiird
vivian baby you should be a maid ;3
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 06:16:27 PM
lolol I'll sign up when I'm 18, so I don't need no parental signature. D;
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Kazuko on November 23, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 06:16:27 PM
lolol I'll sign up when I'm 18, so I don't need no parental signature. D;
Want me to be the guardian again X) ww it worked last time babyyyy
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on November 23, 2008, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 06:16:27 PM
lolol I'll sign up when I'm 18, so I don't need no parental signature. D;

Actually, I'm going to try to look into this year and see if it's actually necessary to get parental signatures for those over 16. I personally don't feel it's necessary to have forms if you're at a somewhat responsible age and already allowed to attend Fanime. If it isn't required, I'll announce so.

Quote from: Kazuko on November 23, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Meirin on November 23, 2008, 06:16:27 PM
lolol I'll sign up when I'm 18, so I don't need no parental signature. D;
Want me to be the guardian again X) ww it worked last time babyyyy

Kazuko, I don't feel it is very wise to admit to lying or planning lie to FanimeCon staff on their public forum.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: mowse on February 22, 2009, 11:47:37 PM
Quote from: thelifeoftehparty on May 29, 2008, 02:40:07 AM




And i loved that Alice in Wonderland cosplay group as well. =w= I was happy i got to mix their tea. Teehee~!

I was the Door Mouse of that group and I know this is like a million years late but you and the other maids were fantastic and we all loved you guys to death. Thanks for putting up with our shenanigans and we definitely intend to show up this coming Fanime. See you there. :)

Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: Jun-Watarase on February 23, 2009, 12:40:56 AM
Quote from: mowse on February 22, 2009, 11:47:37 PM
Quote from: thelifeoftehparty on May 29, 2008, 02:40:07 AM




And i loved that Alice in Wonderland cosplay group as well. =w= I was happy i got to mix their tea. Teehee~!

I was the Door Mouse of that group and I know this is like a million years late but you and the other maids were fantastic and we all loved you guys to death. Thanks for putting up with our shenanigans and we definitely intend to show up this coming Fanime. See you there. :)



Thank you for your support! You will be glad to hear that we will be adding new features to our cafe, this coming Fanime. Be sure to check it out! We'll be glad to have you.
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: PrincessCake on April 27, 2009, 02:24:28 PM
I plan on signing up for the maid cafe for 2010. I wanted to do it this year, but thing is I live all the way in Sacramento and I didn't have a very apporiate maid outfit. What would you suggest?
Title: Re: Maid Cafe 2008 Feedback
Post by: TheMaKaKi on March 18, 2010, 11:39:17 PM
Hey Princess Cake,

I live in the Davis area, near Sacramento. If you need a ride to Fanime, we can probably work something out! However for the tryouts on March 28th, I cannot help with offering rides :(. If you can get to Amtrak and get to San Jose, then we can work something out so we can get to Fanime Tryouts. Good luck!

-Asura

Quote from: PrincessCake on April 27, 2009, 02:24:28 PM
I plan on signing up for the maid cafe for 2010. I wanted to do it this year, but thing is I live all the way in Sacramento and I didn't have a very apporiate maid outfit. What would you suggest?