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Title: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 17, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules

The FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest will take place on Friday, May 25. Up to 40 will vie for the right to be crowned the best singing act of FanimeCon! All finalists will receive prizes, and this year's winner will receive a beautiful microphone trophy.

All contest-related events (signups, check in, and the contest itself) will be in the Karaoke room (Hall C in the San Jose Convention Center).

Schedule

Before Con:
5/6: Online sign ups open and run until full, or until 5/18, whichever comes first.
5/21: Contest Start List posted

At Con:
5/25, 2PM to 5PM: Check-in, warm ups, and at con sign ups.
5/25, 5PM: Deadline for online sign ups to check in.
5/25, 5:30PM: If spots are available, we will add any waiting list people.
5/25, 6PM: Preliminary Round
5/25, 9:00PM: Final Round


Eligibility

You must have a valid FanimeCon badge for Friday.

FanimeCon Karaoke staff, Guests of Honor, and Industry members with professional singing or voice acting experience are ineligible to compete in the contest.

If you compete as a group, all singing members of the group must sing both songs, either as lead or as backup vocals. You may not add or change singing group members between rounds.

Signing Up/Checking In

The online signup link will be posted on this forum on 5/6. To sign up, you must complete the online form completely, including your real name and mailing address, and song IDs, if you are using our library (http://anime-karaoke.com/songLists.php). Incomplete entries will not be accepted.

Contestants who pre-register for the contest must check in with us by 5PM on the day of the contest. To check-in for the contest, you will need your FanimeCon badge and your contest music (either on a CD, or the song numbers from our song library).  If you don't check in, then at 5 your spot may be canceled and given to the entries on the waiting list.

Any at-con sign-ups in excess of 40 will be placed on a waiting list. Waiting list entrants must be present in the Karaoke room at 5:30 to find out if they are in the contest.

Song Selection

Songs must be from the following categories: anime, vocaloid, video game, or J-rock/J-pop.

Songs limits: 2:30 (preliminary), 5:00 (finals). Songs longer than these limits will be faded out when the limit is reached.

You may not use the same song in both rounds of the contest.

English songs which were not originally created for an anime series or video game, or straight covers of such songs (for example, Fly Me To The Moon) are not allowed. Japanese adaptations of such a song are okay.

Original songs created for a localized version of an anime series or game are okay (For example, songs from Robotech or the North American Sailor Moon).

No a cappella singing. a cappella singers are invited to join our Acoustikaraoke! Contest instead.

Acoustic-only instruments (those not using an amp) are allowed if played by the singer(s) themselves. Performers part of a larger group or who desire a more complex musical setup are invited to join our Acoustikaraoke! Contest instead.

You should generally follow the song's original lyrics-this is not a "filk" contest.

If contestants bring their own music, they must provide their own music, preferably karaoke version, on an audio CD. No phones or mp3 players please. Unclaimed CDs will be disposed of at our discretion after the convention.

Contestants may also choose songs from our open mic library (http://anime-karaoke.com/songLists.php). Just tell us the song ID number at signup/check-in. We are not responsible if the song sounds different from your expectations, or does not have lyrics. If you are unsure, you should try it out during the warmup period before the contest.

All contestants who do not use karaoke versions of their songs will perform with vocal dampening turned on. We want to hear you, not the original singer.
Note: Vocal dampening has been known to have unexpected effects with some songs, so if you plan to use vocal dampening, we strongly suggest that you test out your song at home before you sign up.

No song changes are allowed once the contest starts.

Scoring and Judging
Each contestant will be scored by each judge in the following categories:

•   Vocal: musical quality of performance, breath control, pitch and tone (60%)
•   Visual Performance: stage presence; overall entertainment value; style and poise (30%)
•   Song selection/difficulty (10%)

The top 10 scores advance to the Finals.

In the Finals, the winners will be determined by the sum of their preliminary round score and their final round score.

In case of a tie in the preliminary round, the tied acts will advance to the final round. In the event of a tie in the finals, the final round score is the tiebreaker. If the final round scores are the same, then a vote of the judges will determine final placement.

All decisions made by the judges are final.

Conduct
As a convention for anime fans of all ages, FanimeCon has certain standards of behavior which all convention attendees should abide by at all times. Karaoke is no exception.

All aspects of the act, including, but not limited to: costume, conduct on stage, and song lyrics, are to abide by no worse than a PG-13 standard. If you are in doubt as to whether something is suitable, just ask yourself: Would you do this in front of your mother?  If you're still in doubt, please email or post and tell us what you have in mind, and we'll make a decision.

If any violations of this policy occur, FanimeCon Karaoke staff reserves the right to disqualify offenders from the contest and/or terminate the act in mid-song. In extreme cases, offenders may also be subject to convention penalties including loss of badge and removal from the convention.

During the contest, no physical interaction with the judges or the announcer is allowed. Contestants may not leave the stage.

Contestants may not use an audience member in their act. Actions that encourage general audience participation as a whole (such as asking the crowd to sing along) are okay.

The only persons allowed in the performing stage are FanimeCon staff and contestants.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Alexie828 on April 17, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
Weeee awesome! Thanks!
Is there's a maximum to how many people in a group? Are three members acceptable?
Also, for songs that we have to apply our own karaoke effects to, how much will it affect our score if an echo of the original voice can be heard at moments? My friends and I are trying our best to sing over it, but it is really loud at certain parts as this distant echo in the background. As long as our voices dominate, is that fine?  
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on April 17, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
OMG FINALLY!!!

thanks galewolf :D

ohh another question
could you possibly post closer to the date like an exact time or something that the link will go up?
thanks
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Enkai on April 17, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
This probably goes without saying, but just to be certain: songs from staged musical adaptations of anime are okay, correct?

If we want to do a song that doesn't have a karaoke version, is it okay if we save a pre-dampened version to CD for the contest?  If the issue is making sure the vocals are dampened, would it be possible to save both versions (undampened to live dampen at the contest, and pre-dampened) and then test the quality on the pre-dampened version?

Thanks!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: yoshi4sushi on April 18, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
I am happy that the contest is on this year. I signed up last year, I had to bail out cause of an emergency, but now, I will compete and participate this year. I will give it my all, so watch out people. I am coming!  :D
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: arcadiapandora on April 18, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
Usually there are some rules on adjustment of tracks - ie, editing, etc.

What are the rules this year?

Personally, I'm fairly interested in wondering if I can put a bar of tapping in front of my song since it's one of those where you need to sing from the first second - and if there are volume issues I'd be concerned about missing it. A lead in would help a lot.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: ultimatejunmaster on April 18, 2012, 02:08:25 PM
OOORRRRRAAAAA!!!!!!! I WILL GET MY DEBUT THIS TIME!!!!!

Btw points won't be deducted as long as we stop singing before the song completely fades, right?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 19, 2012, 01:02:15 AM
Alright here are some answers:

Quote from: Alexie828 on April 17, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
Is there's a maximum to how many people in a group? Are three members acceptable?

We have three microphones on stage, so three group members is the practical maximum.

QuoteAlso, for songs that we have to apply our own karaoke effects to, how much will it affect our score if an echo of the original voice can be heard at moments? My friends and I are trying our best to sing over it, but it is really loud at certain parts as this distant echo in the background. As long as our voices dominate, is that fine?

You shouldn't be applying any karaoke effects to your song. The only exception is if there is no official karaoke version of your song, then you may ONLY remove the vocals from the track. You may not remix or rearrange the track in any other way. Our judges are pretty experienced, they are not there to judge you on whether you didn't remove the original lyrics completely. They're there to judge your voices.

Quote from: princesskitty18 on April 17, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
could you possibly post closer to the date like an exact time or something that the link will go up?

Yes, I think we could possibly do that.  :P

Quote from: Enkai on April 17, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
If we want to do a song that doesn't have a karaoke version, is it okay if we save a pre-dampened version to CD for the contest?  If the issue is making sure the vocals are dampened, would it be possible to save both versions (undampened to live dampen at the contest, and pre-dampened) and then test the quality on the pre-dampened version?

The available choices are: official karaoke version, official vocal version with live pre-dampening, or if you wish you may ONLY remove the vocals from the official version, without any other changes.

Quote from: Enkai on April 17, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
This probably goes without saying, but just to be certain: songs from staged musical adaptations of anime are okay, correct?

Yes.

Quote from: arcadiapandora on April 18, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
Personally, I'm fairly interested in wondering if I can put a bar of tapping in front of my song since it's one of those where you need to sing from the first second - and if there are volume issues I'd be concerned about missing it. A lead in would help a lot.

We don't judge whether you are right on cue for a lead in- we all know it's an inexact science at best. I wouldn't worry about it.

QuoteBtw points won't be deducted as long as we stop singing before the song completely fades, right?

Sing until it fades. Or, if you want to stop early, step away from the mic and bow. This will indicate to the judges that your performance is over.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on April 19, 2012, 02:53:27 AM
much appreciated galewolf :D

excited..as always :)
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: mlarad on April 19, 2012, 11:42:01 AM

Are we going to have the option of selecting if we want to go in the first, middle or last group like in previous years when we sign up?

Are we allowed to bring small props with us to stage?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 20, 2012, 01:09:32 AM
Quote from: mlarad on April 19, 2012, 11:42:01 AM

Are we going to have the option of selecting if we want to go in the first, middle or last group like in previous years when we sign up?

Are we allowed to bring small props with us to stage?

Yes to both.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Cloud on April 20, 2012, 06:40:05 PM
Thanks for the information!
I saw that musical adaptations of anime are allowed... An example of that would be songs from the Prince of Tennis Musicals or Rock Musical Bleach, correct?
Just making sure I did not misinterpret anything. Thank you very much!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 21, 2012, 04:59:54 PM
Quote from: Cloud on April 20, 2012, 06:40:05 PM
Thanks for the information!
I saw that musical adaptations of anime are allowed... An example of that would be songs from the Prince of Tennis Musicals or Rock Musical Bleach, correct?
Just making sure I did not misinterpret anything. Thank you very much!

Yep, these are fine.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Unyaa on April 22, 2012, 01:15:57 AM
Hi, so if we have a group can one member represent everyone to check in? Or does all member have to be present?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Elwen on April 23, 2012, 12:18:57 AM
What are the rules with respect to fitting a song into the 2:30 time limit for prelims?  Can I cut an instrumental portion in the middle of the song?  Can I start the song at the second verse (basically cut out the initial part on the CD I submit)?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 23, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
Quote from: Unyaa on April 22, 2012, 01:15:57 AM
Hi, so if we have a group can one member represent everyone to check in? Or does all member have to be present?

One member may check in for the group, but we reserve the right to check badges for the other group members when they arrive.

Quote from: Elwen on April 23, 2012, 12:18:57 AM
What are the rules with respect to fitting a song into the 2:30 time limit for prelims?  Can I cut an instrumental portion in the middle of the song?  Can I start the song at the second verse (basically cut out the initial part on the CD I submit)?

No to both of these.
You may, however, start at the first vocals/verse if the song has a long instrumental introduction.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: CrunchiMochi on April 24, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
Are you allowed to use the karaoke version with official harmonies from the original?

Also, if anybody needs help making their own karaoke version, I'm pretty good at it, and wouldn't mind lending a helping hand! Just PM me. :)
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Sygmus on April 25, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
Quote from: CrunchiMochi on April 24, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
Are you allowed to use the karaoke version with official harmonies from the original?

I'd like to know this too.  I was playing around with Audacity and managed to almost eliminate the main singer of a song I'm using, but the harmony singers still come in clear.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: SuperSheba on April 26, 2012, 11:03:19 AM
Heya, GaleWolf!  This isn't so much a question as a thanks.  Thanks for running this contest year after year!  I cannot wait!  

Quote from: Sygmus on April 25, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
Quote from: CrunchiMochi on April 24, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
Are you allowed to use the karaoke version with official harmonies from the original?

I'd like to know this too.  I was playing around with Audacity and managed to almost eliminate the main singer of a song I'm using, but the harmony singers still come in clear.

In response to this, I can't say for sure, but I would imagine that it would be fine, as official karaoke versions usually come with harmonies in the track.  That is, however, if you didn't take the harmonies from the original track and edit them in.  If it is like the years before, then editing them in would not be allowed.  

Also, guys, I'm going to make a thread for all of us contestants to interact in so we don't muddle up this thread with non-rule related posts. 

Go here: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,17182.0.html (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,17182.0.html)

Hope to see you guys there for a chat!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 26, 2012, 11:50:06 PM
Quote from: CrunchiMochi on April 24, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
Are you allowed to use the karaoke version with official harmonies from the original?

If there's an official karaoke version, you should use the official karaoke version as is.
If there is no karaoke version, you may remove the vocals from the regular version, but may not rearrange/remove portions/edit otherwise.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: KusanagiShiro on April 27, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
Hey fellow karaoke contestants...I'm afraid I have some bad news. I'm afraid I won't be able to make the con this year.

Due to a heavier-than-normal workload during the last semester at college, and the subsequent severe burnout I have been suffering for the past month, I am afraid I must withdraw from FanimeCon 2012, and the karaoke contest, in order to focus on recovering. That, and the con just isn't in the cards financially.

Sorry guys, but for the first time in eleven years, I'm missing Fanime.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: SuperSheba on April 27, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
That's too bad, Kusanagishiro!  I hope to see you next year, then.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Elwen on April 28, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
Quote from: GaleWolf on April 23, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
You may, however, start at the first vocals/verse if the song has a long instrumental introduction.

If we decide to do this, should we submit an edited version that starts where we want it?  Or submit the whole song with a note of where to start?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Alexie828 on April 29, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
One more question!
We can trim the intro instrumental to the first vocals/verse, but can we also trim the prelim song to 2:30, and make it fade out ourselves to ensure a smooth ending? That is, the only things being changed about the song is that it is trimmed in both the beginning and the end in order for it to be exactly 2:30. 
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Xanreo on April 29, 2012, 11:24:09 PM
Quote from: Alexie828 on April 29, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
One more question!
We can trim the intro instrumental to the first vocals/verse, but can we also trim the prelim song to 2:30, and make it fade out ourselves to ensure a smooth ending? That is, the only things being changed about the song is that it is trimmed in both the beginning and the end in order for it to be exactly 2:30. 

I think it has been stated several times that the only editing that may be done to the song are the removal of the vocals only.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on April 30, 2012, 02:30:04 PM
Quote from: Elwen on April 28, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
Quote from: GaleWolf on April 23, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
You may, however, start at the first vocals/verse if the song has a long instrumental introduction.

If we decide to do this, should we submit an edited version that starts where we want it?  Or submit the whole song with a note of where to start?

Submit the whole song and before you're up, tell our tech staff where to start.

Quote from: Alexie828 on April 29, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
We can trim the intro instrumental to the first vocals/verse, but can we also trim the prelim song to 2:30, and make it fade out ourselves to ensure a smooth ending? That is, the only things being changed about the song is that it is trimmed in both the beginning and the end in order for it to be exactly 2:30. 

You don't really need to go to the trouble of doing this. We fade out all songs naturally at 2:30. And as mentioned above you can just tell us exactly where to start the first vocals/verse.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on May 01, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
hey galewolf
can you post a time frame of the sign-ups?
because you know that its gonna go fast
thanks!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 01, 2012, 07:01:36 PM

I haven't forgotten  ;) There should be an update by Friday.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Cloud on May 01, 2012, 09:52:26 PM
It would be awesome if you included an option to put our preference on when we'd like to sing (towards the beginning or end) like last year's sign ups. Really hoping you'll include that again this year!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 02, 2012, 12:14:45 AM
Quote from: Cloud on May 01, 2012, 09:52:26 PM
It would be awesome if you included an option to put our preference on when we'd like to sing (towards the beginning or end) like last year's sign ups. Really hoping you'll include that again this year!

It's been the same signup form since like 2008, so yes I think that's very likely.   :D
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Nina Star 9 on May 02, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
This might be an impossible question, but~

About how long (time-wise) are the beginning, middle, and end blocks? Say there was a gathering I wanted to attend that started at 6, and I signed up and got into a spot in the end block, is there any way to estimate how many contestants would be before me so I could know when to show up and if I could make it? (I guess once I checked in, I'd know my number and I'd be able to multiply that by 2.5 minutes to get a rough estimate of how long it would take, but that wouldn't help me now to decide if I want to sign up at all and which event I wanted to do or if I could do both!)

Thanks. :D
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 03, 2012, 01:34:55 AM
Quote from: Nina Star 9 on May 02, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
This might be an impossible question, but~

About how long (time-wise) are the beginning, middle, and end blocks? Say there was a gathering I wanted to attend that started at 6, and I signed up and got into a spot in the end block, is there any way to estimate how many contestants would be before me so I could know when to show up and if I could make it? (I guess once I checked in, I'd know my number and I'd be able to multiply that by 2.5 minutes to get a rough estimate of how long it would take, but that wouldn't help me now to decide if I want to sign up at all and which event I wanted to do or if I could do both!)

Thanks. :D

Yeah, this is impossible to determine right now without anyone signed up. If it helps, the contest order will be posted Monday before con and you can make a projection then based on that.

Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: wings_of_an_angel on May 05, 2012, 11:44:38 PM
are printed lyrics ok to use? :o
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 06, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
Quote from: wings_of_an_angel on May 05, 2012, 11:44:38 PM
are printed lyrics ok to use? :o

Yes, but you need to provide them yourself. We do not guarantee lyrics availability for the contest.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Cloud on May 06, 2012, 12:47:32 PM
When listing a song on the sign ups, if the song is sung by multiple people and they do not have a group name, would it be okay to just write the anime series name that the song comes from?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 06, 2012, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Cloud on May 06, 2012, 12:47:32 PM
When listing a song on the sign ups, if the song is sung by multiple people and they do not have a group name, would it be okay to just write the anime series name that the song comes from?

Yes, either the artist or series name would be fine.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: HiddenThunder on May 06, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Question for song choice. I want to sing two remixed versions of NES era game soundtracks with added lyrics. The songs are Megaman 3 (opening theme) and Final Fantasy 1 (Opening). I would like to sing the "with lyrics" versions of these songs, made by Brentalfloss. Are these considered legal song choices, since they are from video games?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 06, 2012, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: HiddenThunder on May 06, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Question for song choice. I want to sing two remixed versions of NES era game soundtracks with added lyrics. The songs are Megaman 3 (opening theme) and Final Fantasy 1 (Opening). I would like to sing the "with lyrics" versions of these songs, made by Brentalfloss. Are these considered legal song choices, since they are from video games?

Added lyrics? If this is an official version, yes. If it's fan made lyrics, no.

Also: One change to the schedule. Finals will start at 9PM, not 9:30PM. Please note this change.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on May 06, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
i think i always get this confused
but for the first round, when u say 2:30, does that mean 2 mins and 30 seconds of SINGING or 2 mins and 30 seconds of the song itself?

i feel like i always get cut off when i kno ive prepared 2:30 and stuff..

thanks man :D

and get ready for the onslaught :)
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Armored-Heart on May 06, 2012, 10:31:17 PM
Question; is there an estimated end time for the contest? I'm co-hosting a panel at 11 on Friday, and my co-host will be (hopefully, if his entry was accepted!) entering the Karaoke contest. I'm assuming some overlap between the time slots will be inevitable, but it'd be nice to be able to gauge how much, so we can confirm whether or not I'll need to find someone to fill in for him.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 07, 2012, 02:09:08 AM
Quote from: Armored-Heart on May 06, 2012, 10:31:17 PM
Question; is there an estimated end time for the contest? I'm co-hosting a panel at 11 on Friday, and my co-host will be (hopefully, if his entry was accepted!) entering the Karaoke contest. I'm assuming some overlap between the time slots will be inevitable, but it'd be nice to be able to gauge how much, so we can confirm whether or not I'll need to find someone to fill in for him.

Our goal is to end by 11PM. In the past we've run slightly past, so this year we have an earlier start time for both rounds.

Quote from: princesskitty18 on May 06, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
but for the first round, when u say 2:30, does that mean 2 mins and 30 seconds of SINGING or 2 mins and 30 seconds of the song itself?

The song itself. However, we may let the song run a little longer if right at the 2:30 mark you are in the middle of a verse.
So if you want to be safe, know the first 3 minutes.



Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: marisuga on May 07, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
If our song for the first round is over 2:30, can we edit the backing track to be shorter or is that not allowed?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 08, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 07, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
If our song for the first round is over 2:30, can we edit the backing track to be shorter or is that not allowed?

No, but if the song has a long intro, you may request us to start the song when the vocals start.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: marisuga on May 08, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 08, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 07, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
If our song for the first round is over 2:30, can we edit the backing track to be shorter or is that not allowed?

No, but if the song has a long intro, you may request us to start the song when the vocals start.

Are we allowed to use the TV size of a song?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Xanreo on May 10, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
The rules state that Jpop is accepted so would an official Japanese release of a Kpop song by the same artist be applicable?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 10, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 08, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 08, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 07, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
If our song for the first round is over 2:30, can we edit the backing track to be shorter or is that not allowed?

No, but if the song has a long intro, you may request us to start the song when the vocals start.

Are we allowed to use the TV size of a song?

Yes, highly encouraged.

Quote from: Xanreo on May 10, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
The rules state that Jpop is accepted so would an official Japanese release of a Kpop song by the same artist be applicable?

Assuming it's in Japanese, yes.

ALSO: Regarding costumes, the question is answered in the judging guidelines portion of the rules.

Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: loconeko on May 10, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
I hope this isn't too petty of a question, but here it goes.

After reading this thread VERY carefully, I decided to change my final song.  My problem is I want to sing the English version of "Yakusoku no Basho" from Final Fantasy XIII-2, but I have the instrumental for the Japanese version.  They sound extremely similar, but the English version has a slight R&B sound to it.  Would I be allowed to use the Japanese instrumental to sing the English version?

This is assuming I make it as far as the finals of course.  =P
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: wings_of_an_angel on May 11, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: loconeko on May 10, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
I hope this isn't too petty of a question, but here it goes.

After reading this thread VERY carefully, I decided to change my final song.  My problem is I want to sing the English version of "Yakusoku no Basho" from Final Fantasy XIII-2, but I have the instrumental for the Japanese version.  They sound extremely similar, but the English version has a slight R&B sound to it.  Would I be allowed to use the Japanese instrumental to sing the English version?

This is assuming I make it as far as the finals of course.  =P

ooo~ you're planning to sing new world? lol ironic i'm singing the jpn version yakusoku no basho for the final round if i get there!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: loconeko on May 11, 2012, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: wings_of_an_angel on May 11, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: loconeko on May 10, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
I hope this isn't too petty of a question, but here it goes.

After reading this thread VERY carefully, I decided to change my final song.  My problem is I want to sing the English version of "Yakusoku no Basho" from Final Fantasy XIII-2, but I have the instrumental for the Japanese version.  They sound extremely similar, but the English version has a slight R&B sound to it.  Would I be allowed to use the Japanese instrumental to sing the English version?

This is assuming I make it as far as the finals of course.  =P

ooo~ you're planning to sing new world? lol ironic i'm singing the jpn version yakusoku no basho for the final round if i get there!

Lol! What a coincidence! There's no instrumental to new world though. So I'm thinking about just learning yakusoku no basho and add more power in my voice. :P

What's your prelim song?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: marisuga on May 12, 2012, 10:53:18 AM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 10, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 08, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 08, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 07, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
If our song for the first round is over 2:30, can we edit the backing track to be shorter or is that not allowed?

No, but if the song has a long intro, you may request us to start the song when the vocals start.

Are we allowed to use the TV size of a song?

Yes, highly encouraged.

Quote from: Xanreo on May 10, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
The rules state that Jpop is accepted so would an official Japanese release of a Kpop song by the same artist be applicable?

Assuming it's in Japanese, yes.

ALSO: Regarding costumes, the question is answered in the judging guidelines portion of the rules.



I don't see anything about costumes in the judging guidelines... how am I missing this haha
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: marisuga on May 12, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 10, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 08, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 08, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 07, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
If our song for the first round is over 2:30, can we edit the backing track to be shorter or is that not allowed?

No, but if the song has a long intro, you may request us to start the song when the vocals start.

Are we allowed to use the TV size of a song?

Yes, highly encouraged.

Quote from: Xanreo on May 10, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
The rules state that Jpop is accepted so would an official Japanese release of a Kpop song by the same artist be applicable?

Assuming it's in Japanese, yes.

ALSO: Regarding costumes, the question is answered in the judging guidelines portion of the rules.



I don't see anything about costumes in the judging guidelines... how am I missing this haha
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 13, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: loconeko on May 10, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
I hope this isn't too petty of a question, but here it goes.

After reading this thread VERY carefully, I decided to change my final song.  My problem is I want to sing the English version of "Yakusoku no Basho" from Final Fantasy XIII-2, but I have the instrumental for the Japanese version.  They sound extremely similar, but the English version has a slight R&B sound to it.  Would I be allowed to use the Japanese instrumental to sing the English version?

This is assuming I make it as far as the finals of course.  =P

This should be okay as long as the actual arrangement isn't too different.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: loconeko on May 14, 2012, 06:27:42 AM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 13, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: loconeko on May 10, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
I hope this isn't too petty of a question, but here it goes.

After reading this thread VERY carefully, I decided to change my final song.  My problem is I want to sing the English version of "Yakusoku no Basho" from Final Fantasy XIII-2, but I have the instrumental for the Japanese version.  They sound extremely similar, but the English version has a slight R&B sound to it.  Would I be allowed to use the Japanese instrumental to sing the English version?

This is assuming I make it as far as the finals of course.  =P

This should be okay as long as the actual arrangement isn't too different.

Cool! Thank you. =)
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Nina Star 9 on May 14, 2012, 10:01:57 AM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 07, 2012, 02:09:08 AM
Quote from: princesskitty18 on May 06, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
but for the first round, when u say 2:30, does that mean 2 mins and 30 seconds of SINGING or 2 mins and 30 seconds of the song itself?

The song itself. However, we may let the song run a little longer if right at the 2:30 mark you are in the middle of a verse.
So if you want to be safe, know the first 3 minutes.
Does this go for the finals round, as well? Let's say that 5:00 exactly is right in the middle of the last chorus, the singing goes until ~5:25, and the most logical place to stop before that is at ~3:30, would it be best to learn the song all the way through and hope that you guys extend it to the end of the singing, or should I cut it off really early (after the first chorus/before an instrumental portion)? It doesn't -really- matter to me, I'm mostly just wondering if I should brush up on my final verses or not.

Also, we won't get penalized in the prelims if the 2:30 cutoff is at kind of an odd spot, right? (It's not in the middle of a verse or anything, but it's kind of an odd note that's before a short silent section that leads into the final chorus) Again, trying to figure out if I should cut it off earlier, after the first chorus/before an instrumental/before the slightly awkward final verses (which is a little before 1:25, which doesn't seem like much singing at all!), or if I should stick it out to the end of those final verses. On this song, there's pretty much no danger of me having to go over the time, though.

Thank you!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: marisuga on May 14, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
I feel kind of stupid for having to ask this, but since this is a Karaoke contest, do the lyrics need to be memorized?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on May 14, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 14, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
I feel kind of stupid for having to ask this, but since this is a Karaoke contest, do the lyrics need to be memorized?

preferred but not required
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Lexy on May 14, 2012, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 14, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
I feel kind of stupid for having to ask this, but since this is a Karaoke contest, do the lyrics need to be memorized?

I believe they let you bring a printed copy of the lyrics up to the stage but they do deduct points for doing so. I did that three years ago but honestly it was way to distracting and it made me even more nervous! I strongly suggest memorizing the lyrics so you can focus your attention to your performance and singing.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: mlarad on May 14, 2012, 05:32:47 PM

Hi!, I have 2 questions:

1) If we want to change the selection of songs or the order we want to sing them, do we have to email you in advance or can it be done when we sign in at the con?

2) Also, if originally I wrote a number of persons that were going to perform and that number will now decreased, do I email you?

Thank you
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 14, 2012, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: mlarad on May 14, 2012, 05:32:47 PM

Hi!, I have 2 questions:

1) If we want to change the selection of songs or the order we want to sing them, do we have to email you in advance or can it be done when we sign in at the con?

2) Also, if originally I wrote a number of persons that were going to perform and that number will now decreased, do I email you?

Thank you

1. At the con.
2. Yes, or PM.

Quote from: Lexy on May 14, 2012, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 14, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
I feel kind of stupid for having to ask this, but since this is a Karaoke contest, do the lyrics need to be memorized?

I believe they let you bring a printed copy of the lyrics up to the stage but they do deduct points for doing so. I did that three years ago but honestly it was way to distracting and it made me even more nervous! I strongly suggest memorizing the lyrics so you can focus your attention to your performance and singing.


We don't deduct points for using a lyrics sheet. But we do judge on Performance. If you are heads down into the lyrics sheet during the entire song, then that would not be considered good performance. Many singers do just fine with a lyrics sheet, it's how you use it.


Quote from: Nina Star 9 on May 14, 2012, 10:01:57 AM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 07, 2012, 02:09:08 AM
Quote from: princesskitty18 on May 06, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
but for the first round, when u say 2:30, does that mean 2 mins and 30 seconds of SINGING or 2 mins and 30 seconds of the song itself?

The song itself. However, we may let the song run a little longer if right at the 2:30 mark you are in the middle of a verse.
So if you want to be safe, know the first 3 minutes.

Does this go for the finals round, as well? Let's say that 5:00 exactly is right in the middle of the last chorus, the singing goes until ~5:25, and the most logical place to stop before that is at ~3:30, would it be best to learn the song all the way through and hope that you guys extend it to the end of the singing, or should I cut it off really early (after the first chorus/before an instrumental portion)? It doesn't -really- matter to me, I'm mostly just wondering if I should brush up on my final verses or not.

Also, we won't get penalized in the prelims if the 2:30 cutoff is at kind of an odd spot, right? (It's not in the middle of a verse or anything, but it's kind of an odd note that's before a short silent section that leads into the final chorus) Again, trying to figure out if I should cut it off earlier, after the first chorus/before an instrumental/before the slightly awkward final verses (which is a little before 1:25, which doesn't seem like much singing at all!), or if I should stick it out to the end of those final verses. On this song, there's pretty much no danger of me having to go over the time, though.

Thank you!

There's no penalty if your song breaks in an odd spot at the time limit. We don't fade *exactly* at 2:30, we fade at the first natural break. So if your song happens to be in the middle of a verse, then expect to finish the verse.

For your finals song, either way is acceptable.

Basically, sing until you don't hear the music any more, and you'll be fine.

Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Lexy on May 15, 2012, 08:46:23 AM
Quote from: GaleWolf on May 14, 2012, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: mlarad on May 14, 2012, 05:32:47 PM



Quote from: Lexy on May 14, 2012, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: Marisuga on May 14, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
I feel kind of stupid for having to ask this, but since this is a Karaoke contest, do the lyrics need to be memorized?

I believe they let you bring a printed copy of the lyrics up to the stage but they do deduct points for doing so. I did that three years ago but honestly it was way to distracting and it made me even more nervous! I strongly suggest memorizing the lyrics so you can focus your attention to your performance and singing.


We don't deduct points for using a lyrics sheet. But we do judge on Performance. If you are heads down into the lyrics sheet during the entire song, then that would not be considered good performance. Many singers do just fine with a lyrics sheet, it's how you use it.



Thanks for clearing that up Galewolf!
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: wings_of_an_angel on May 16, 2012, 01:30:05 AM
Quote from: loconeko on May 11, 2012, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: wings_of_an_angel on May 11, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: loconeko on May 10, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
I hope this isn't too petty of a question, but here it goes.

After reading this thread VERY carefully, I decided to change my final song.  My problem is I want to sing the English version of "Yakusoku no Basho" from Final Fantasy XIII-2, but I have the instrumental for the Japanese version.  They sound extremely similar, but the English version has a slight R&B sound to it.  Would I be allowed to use the Japanese instrumental to sing the English version?

This is assuming I make it as far as the finals of course.  =P

ooo~ you're planning to sing new world? lol ironic i'm singing the jpn version yakusoku no basho for the final round if i get there!

Lol! What a coincidence! There's no instrumental to new world though. So I'm thinking about just learning yakusoku no basho and add more power in my voice. :P

What's your prelim song?

Aimo from macross frontier :)
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on May 17, 2012, 09:12:53 AM
when are we gonna know if we got in and/or in which order we're going to sing in?

thanks
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: therandomeer on May 17, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
Quotewhen are we gonna know if we got in and/or in which order we're going to sing in?

thanks

The list will be posted on the 21st.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: princesskitty18 on May 17, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: SeymourParii on May 17, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
Quotewhen are we gonna know if we got in and/or in which order we're going to sing in?

thanks

The list will be posted on the 21st.

awesome. thanks
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Cloud on May 20, 2012, 04:44:14 PM
How can I test what vocal dampening will make my song sound like at home?
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Asa_Gohan on May 21, 2012, 02:12:49 AM
Im wondering, if he said that the tv show length of songs were preferable for the contest, if the full versions are only available during the selection, would it be possible to say...Have them cut it off, or do a fade out from where the OP would normally end?  I was thinking of doing Shounen Heart for mine if I was able to get in, and it only goes for 1:30
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Hank-KKD on May 21, 2012, 11:32:50 PM
Quote from: Asa_Gohan on May 21, 2012, 02:12:49 AM
Im wondering, if he said that the tv show length of songs were preferable for the contest, if the full versions are only available during the selection, would it be possible to say...Have them cut it off, or do a fade out from where the OP would normally end?  I was thinking of doing Shounen Heart for mine if I was able to get in, and it only goes for 1:30

Yes- just let the Tech Staff know when your turn comes up.
Title: Re: FanimeCon 2012 Karaoke Contest Rules
Post by: Ruzuki on May 24, 2012, 03:10:27 PM
First on standby!