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Title: FanimeCon App
Post by: otakuya on May 19, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
I'm not devAtelier or anything like that, but I discovered and just downloaded the ("official") FanimeCon app from the Google Play store and I'm excited to see this being applied. Thanks to Devatelier.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devatelier.fanimecon#?t=W10. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devatelier.fanimecon#?t=W10.)
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 19, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
Gosh is this a Legit thing?
This is the first I am hearing about it.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: SpiritOfKairi on May 19, 2013, 09:03:26 PM
It's a real app, though it isn't as good as I was hoping.  The schedule tells you when the AA and DH are opening, but the only other information it gives are about panels.  It doesn't say which videos are playing when in the screening rooms, nor does it mention events like the swap meet and ball (these are only mentioned in the Main Events section found by clicking the button on the home screen).  So while it does give some information, it doesn't give nearly as much as it could.

Other features include showing the tweets people are making using Fanime as a hashtag, showing a map of the center and surrounding area, displaying names and pictures of the Guests of Honor, and showing the "rules" of the con.  (I put that in quotes because it just shows the rules for the ball, and not the con in general.)  So it's a decent start, but could definitely use some more work.  What I would really like to see is a full-fledged schedule with all the panels, events, and screening room details and times in place of that twitter feed since I don't see the point of it.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: ewu on May 19, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 19, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
Gosh is this a Legit thing?
This is the first I am hearing about it.

it is legit, Fanime programed. As more scheduling info is solidified, it should be loaded into the app.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: HarpB on May 19, 2013, 09:25:14 PM
That app is good, but it is missing the feature to create a schedule. For me, purpose of mobile app is to plan out my adventure at the con. Last year, I created http://guidebook.com/ (http://guidebook.com/) for Fanime 2012 and I will probably end up doing the same, this year, once the schedule is available online. Unless, FanimeCon be gracious to add the feature to create a schedule in their app :D
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: ewu on May 19, 2013, 09:58:11 PM
guidebook charge cons money....that's money away from programming, like a few thousand....it was a balance...
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: keitoghostie on May 19, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Ooh thank you!!
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: ShikiIchijo on May 19, 2013, 10:55:15 PM
Is there a plan in the future to make it an app for the iPhone?
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: 2D Mirage on May 19, 2013, 11:41:05 PM
Its interesting how this app doesn't work on my Google Nexus 10. You know, one of the most up to date tablets on the market.  This needs to be fixed more than the people posting updates on the website.


Seriously, this is horrible and I really hope someone made this for free.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: EJAY420 on May 19, 2013, 11:43:43 PM
Lol, this app didnt work for my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1.  :-\
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: HarpB on May 20, 2013, 12:13:28 AM
Quote from: ewu on May 19, 2013, 09:58:11 PM
guidebook charge cons money....that's money away from programming, like a few thousand....it was a balance...
I took your comment into consideration and looked for alternative. I found bloodhound and made a guide for Clockwork Alchemy 2013 (since their schedule is online).
You can try it by downloading https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bloodhound.android.client&hl=en , open app and then search for Clockwork Alchemy 2013. I am using Android 4.2 smartphone.
OR, try it in browser: http://bloodhound.com/webapp/#events/86954
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Admiral Donuts on May 20, 2013, 07:57:34 AM
It works on my phone, and it's not worth the download. All the info could be in a pdf, and that would be a lot less than the 18.75 mb this takes up on my phone.

If people want to do a schedule, us Google Calender. It's free and you can use it collaboratively.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: phr34kish on May 20, 2013, 08:42:45 AM
I dunno, I think you guys are being kinda harsh. :( It's a new product, and not even one Fanime has announced yet. (In my mind, that would obviously mean it's not completely done.) At least they're making and effort, and some headway. I was actually pretty excited to see quite a few of the features included, and even though the numbers aren't filled in yet, I thought the emergency contact page was a GENIUS idea. Too many people wander around without that kind of information. And the included Twitter feed is kinda cool. It's nice to have one place to go check everything at once, instead of flipping through about 6 different apps.

I say just be patient enough to give them time to finish fleshing it out. It's got great bones, and I'm personally excited to see it complete. :)

(P.S. Works fine on my Samsung Galaxy II Skyrocket!)
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: otakuya on May 20, 2013, 08:49:38 AM
^ speaking of, I didn't mean to prematurely promote the app before it was supposed to be released  officially. I just happened to search Fanime on Google Play. To whoever created the app, good job and to Fanime staff.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: HarpB on May 20, 2013, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: Jeimizu on May 20, 2013, 07:57:34 AM
It works on my phone, and it's not worth the download. All the info could be in a pdf, and that would be a lot less than the 18.75 mb this takes up on my phone.

If people want to do a schedule, us Google Calender. It's free and you can use it collaboratively.
It's the matter of convenience. Creating schedule with google calendar would require much more time for an indvidual than you just click an icon in the app. Browsing through pdf is cumbersome for me.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: 2D Mirage on May 20, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: HarpB on May 20, 2013, 09:39:03 AM
It's the matter of convenience. Creating schedule with google calendar would require much more time for an indvidual than you just click an icon in the app. Browsing through pdf is cumbersome for me.
If the app worked for more than ten people, was totally reworked, then you may have been right. Plus you can put your google calendar onto your home screen for no clicks.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Tsu on May 20, 2013, 11:20:11 AM
Grumble-grumble, complain-complain. It's clearly not finished. It's free. I don't know how it's going to look when many events are lumped into the same time-block, but it's better than nothing. Keep in mind we also had the mobile site last year, which wasn't perfect, but was helpful. And the regular online schedule. And schedules posted at every info desk. And single-room schedules posted at every room. Oh, and the mini-schedule you could carry around.

I'm not sure it needs to be any more convenient than all of that.

Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Oniko on May 20, 2013, 01:41:28 PM
I think this is a great concept.  Having your schedule with you on your phone is a good idea. I dont even mind if I cant make alarms and favorite or anything, as long as I can look up events.  There as that one year that the didnt have enough programs and for me who didnt have a smart phone that was tough.  My friend had one and we used another app  called ConDroyd, but thats not up to date yet.  Last year and this year I have a smart phone and it has been very handy sense most of the time I either lost y schedule or didnt get one.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Dimm on May 20, 2013, 02:04:59 PM
I love this idea of having a single official app with all the guidebook info that can up updated on-the-go. It's a very polished looking app, and I can understand not including tablet-sized support, which would warrant a total redesign of the UI graphics. I can't wait to see the final result in action during the con when all the info has been updated inside of it.

But I'm holding off on downloading it after looking at the permissions it requires. For an 18mb app that could pull updated info directly from public feeds, I'm curious why it requires permissions to: The Bloodhound app that was posted only requires basic permissions, so I really don't see any reason why an app like this needs them.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: M on May 20, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
Quick notes since I don't have much time to go through and format this post nicely (quote people and whatnot):
* This is a legit thing. DevAtelier is amazing for this and we hope to only improve on this. :)
* All information on it isn't finalized. We're hastily getting the schedule data on our schedule website, which will automatically update in the app (it's "magic" for those that aren't tech savvy and "data feeds" to those that are).
* There is an iOS version that is planning to be released. *crosses fingers*
* An update has been submitted to Android to allow it to work on tablets as well as remove all permissions that we don't need (we don't really want to know anything about your text messages, record your audio, etc.). The new version only requires two things: internet and GPS.
* We're still trying to see options as to what we can do and this is a start. There will never be a perfect solution, but we will work towards a solution that will work for many users.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Dimm on May 20, 2013, 02:27:16 PM
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply  :D They've done a good job with it so far and it looks like it will become a great tool for attendees in the future. I'll wait for the update then give it a whirl!
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Avairrianna on May 20, 2013, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: MPLe on May 20, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
Quick notes since I don't have much time to go through and format this post nicely (quote people and whatnot):
* This is a legit thing. DevAtelier is amazing for this and we hope to only improve on this. :)
* All information on it isn't finalized. We're hastily getting the schedule data on our schedule website, which will automatically update in the app (it's "magic" for those that aren't tech savvy and "data feeds" to those that are).
* There is an iOS version that is planning to be released. *crosses fingers*
* An update has been submitted to Android to allow it to work on tablets as well as remove all permissions that we don't need (we don't really want to know anything about your text messages, record your audio, etc.). The new version only requires two things: internet and GPS.
* We're still trying to see options as to what we can do and this is a start. There will never be a perfect solution, but we will work towards a solution that will work for many users.

MPLe! You're almost at 1337 posts! (Sorry that made me happy)
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: SpiritOfKairi on May 20, 2013, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: MPLe on May 20, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
Quick notes since I don't have much time to go through and format this post nicely (quote people and whatnot):
* This is a legit thing. DevAtelier is amazing for this and we hope to only improve on this. :)
* All information on it isn't finalized. We're hastily getting the schedule data on our schedule website, which will automatically update in the app (it's "magic" for those that aren't tech savvy and "data feeds" to those that are).
* There is an iOS version that is planning to be released. *crosses fingers*
* An update has been submitted to Android to allow it to work on tablets as well as remove all permissions that we don't need (we don't really want to know anything about your text messages, record your audio, etc.). The new version only requires two things: internet and GPS.
* We're still trying to see options as to what we can do and this is a start. There will never be a perfect solution, but we will work towards a solution that will work for many users.

Awesome =).  The schedule displayed before seemed a bit scant, and the schedule is the whole reason why I downloaded the app.  If it will be updated soon as staff knows more and updates the online version though, that sounds great!
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Admiral Donuts on May 20, 2013, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: MPLe on May 20, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
* All information on it isn't finalized. We're hastily getting the schedule data on our schedule website, which will automatically update in the app (it's "magic" for those that aren't tech savvy and "data feeds" to those that are).

So can we get access to the feeds?
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: cr08 on May 21, 2013, 06:46:06 AM
Just some constructive criticism here with the preface that I understand it is still very beta. And some of this will likely have to wait til Fanime 2014 if you guys plan on keeping it around:

~ Make hardware back buttons aliased to the on screen 'back' buttons in the top left. Hit the hardware button about 3 times now trying to back out of an event detail and got kicked back to the play store I was on
~ Somewhat out of your control-slash-can be done: Location and event tracking on the map. Part that is out of your control: Google Maps can do interior maps which would be amazing but usually requires said building owner to run with it. Between of the con center, Marriott, Hilton, Fairmont, etc.. that becomes greatly problematic. Location tracking on the con center layout ('Venues' page) is doable but complex and I haven't looked into the technical aspect personally but navigation/location on arbitrary layout maps has been done. All in all something possibly to look into for '14 if interested?
~ Landscape mode. Not a HUGE concern but as someone who is still rocking a 'lower' res 854x480 phone, some event titles are overflowing the screen quite a bit and being able to scroll the list in landscape mode would be a nice aesthetic.
~ Notification/'Want to attend' event tracker. A separate list of personally tracked events one wants to attend. Bonus points for utilizing active notifications ahead of time ie: 15/30 minutes or so before start time run a standard android notification.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: HarpB on May 21, 2013, 09:56:44 AM
My only requests are, make it possible to create my own calendar or share the feed, so I can create a guidebook for myself :D
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Rhornez on May 21, 2013, 07:24:13 PM
waiting for info to be replenished and updated
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: kookiekween99 on May 21, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Oh sweet, the iOS version is out! *downloads*

EDIT: Alright. Feedback time.

- It doesn't work without an internet connection. I know it relies on data feeds, but since free wifi is scarce and I don't like relying on data unless I really have to (not to mention that iPod Touches can't use data), I wonder how useful this will be during con. Perhaps there could be a way to have an offline mode and an online mode? In online mode it would fetch the latest information, and in offline mode, it would just display the info it downloaded last time it was online. Either that or add more free wifi in the convention center/other buildings.

- I wish I could tap on the event name in the schedule and get more information about it. For example, tapping on a panel name could give me the panel decription and maybe a more specific location like "Panel Room II in the Marriott." I also wish it would give me the end time of each event. Right now, the functionality is that it shows me the name, start time, and location of the event in the schedule, and when I tap on it, it just gives me that exact same information by itself.

- Artist Alley is listed on the schedule as being in SJCC. Isn't it in South Hall this year? Might want to correct to prevent confusion.

- My mom is head of Info Desk, and she says the hours for Info Desk are listed incorrectly. She understands it's a work in progress, and she's excited that this is even a thing, but it'd be nice to have it fixed by Thursday.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: Belfry on May 21, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
This is great! I went looking for a Fanime app a couple months ago and was disappointed to see that there wasn't one available. I'm very happy that it has both a schedule and a map of the convention center.

I do have one request, though. On the schedule, would it be possible to get a more detailed location than "SJCC" or "Marriott?" I'd like to know if say, an event is being held in Panels 1, rather than Panels 2.

Thanks so much for releasing the app.
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: M on May 22, 2013, 12:15:33 AM
The app has almost all placeholder content. Unfortunately, the only way to test it requires an odd method that we weren't prepared to do in such short notice and it was better for us to get it approved and then update it than wait to get it approved (considering that this is a long weekend).

It does require internet, but we're looking to do an offline shedule.

In short, too much content was changing at the final minutes that the developer had to work with what he can (he is truly an awesome developer!).
Title: Re: FanimeCon App
Post by: abcbadcat on May 22, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
As the app isn't officially released yet, you all have to realize this is a step in the right direction  ;)