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Title: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:16:37 AM
Hi everyone, this thread is the official list of all official tournaments that E-gaming will be holding.
I'll be the coordinator for these tournaments.  :)
-As of right now all tournaments are going to be console. 
-If circumstances deem necessary, I may talk to the owner of the arcade machines to allow us to use them for tournament use.  No guarantee on this.
-All tournaments will be standard double elimination.
-You may bring your own controllers, but no programmed/ shoulder buttons allowed.  We will provide regular controllers otherwise. (Disclaimer: All controllers owned and used by Fanime attendants are not the liability of Fanime nor its staff.  If your controllers break while in use at fanime, we're not held liable.)
-All tournaments will be bracketed using standard tournament brackets and seeding.
-Pausing during a match will forfeit you 1 game, even if it's on accident.
-Certain glitches will be banned from these tournaments. Clarification of which glitches will be stated per game. 
-If you are not present when called for your match you will forfeit 1 game if we have to do a different match.  If you are not present after the replacement match you will forfeit that match.
-If you are entered in more than 1 tournament that are active simultaneously, we will not penalize you if you're currently completing a match in a different E-gaming tournament.  You will be notified that your match has been called and expected to attend your match immediately after your current match has been finished.
-If you accidentally pick the wrong character (for fighting games) you may restart to pick the correct character.  You are expected to IMMEDIATELY state that you picked the wrong character.
-For fighting games, the winner of a game must stick to their character for the following game.  Loser may change character.
-If a player wants to keep their character for the match secret, to avoid counter-picking, they may tell the tournament coordinator their character(s).  The coordinator will pick these character(s) after the other player picks theirs.  If both players opt for this choice, the coordinator will input the characters for both players.
This list will be subject to change if new official rules are found and more games will be added as rules are finalized.

Bleach Blade Battlers 2nd           
+1st prize is $70 credit for any games at Japan Video
+2nd prize is $40 credit for any games at Japan Video
+32 player cap
3 stock 2/3 games

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection                     
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+32 person cap
3/5 rounds, 2/3 matches, double elimination

Marvel VS. Capcom 2 New Age of Heroes tournament (dreamcast) 
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+32 person cap
2/3 games

Street Fighters III 3rd Strike tournament         
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+32 person cap
2/3 rounds, 2/3 games

Guilty Gear Accent Core Plus
+1st prize is $70 credit for any games at Japan Video
+2nd prize is $40 credit for any games at Japan Video
+32 person cap
2/3 rounds 2/3 games
Guilty Gear has always banned Kliff & Justice, EX characters, Gold & Shadow characters, and Guilty Gear 1 mode, no #reload characters.

Melty Blood (version b)
+32 person cap
Default settings (2/3 rounds, 2/3 games)

BeatMania II DX 13th Style Distorted or 14th Style Gold
+1st prize is $70 credit for any games at Japan Video
+2nd prize is $40 credit for any games at Japan Video
+Highest score wins
+32 person cap
1 game per person per match

Guitar Hero 3
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+32 person cap
1 game per person per match

Super Smash Bros Brawl
+32 person cap
+3 stock, 2/3 games

Capcom vs SNK 2 (Dreamcast)
+32 person cap
2/3 games

Soul Calibur 3
+32 player cap
2/3 rounds, 2/3 games

Naruto Clash of Ninja 4
+1st prize is $70 credit for any games at Japan Video
+2nd prize is $40 credit for any games at Japan Video
+32 person cap
2/3 rounds, 2/3 games


The only tournaments currently guaranteed to have prizes are the ones with prizes already listed for them.  Any game without prizes listed will have tournaments if more than 8 players sign up per game, but no prizes are guaranteed.  If no prizes are available, we may be giving out championship certificates instead.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tsubasa on February 27, 2008, 08:49:16 AM
What's the policy on BYOC?

Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:16:37 AM
Melty Blood (version b probably)
Default settings (2/3 rounds, 2/3 games)

I'll be playing in this.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: clawmaster on February 27, 2008, 08:56:50 AM
for the marvel vs capcom 2 tourny is that using controllers is it the arcade machine.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 09:09:07 AM
edited for both of your questions.  ;D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Chloe on February 27, 2008, 11:18:51 AM
Whoa, are you going to be running all of these? 

That's going to be quite a bit...

What about VF5? D: lol, no one plays that game.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on February 27, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
Im in for Bleach, Halo, and Guitar Hero 3.

Im not super good at any of these games but they're fun so I'll play.

If there is Brawl or Soul Calibur 3... I will be in for sure.

Brawl is super fun.

I would be in for Tekken but I can't combo chain.
I would also be in for Third Strike but I would get raped.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:45:23 PM
I'm probably going to have 2 people assisting me in running the tournaments.

I haven't been told to have a VF5 tournament as of yet so it's off the lists for now.

If you're doubtful in any game, practice makes perfect :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on February 27, 2008, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:45:23 PM
I'm probably going to have 2 people assisting me in running the tournaments.

I haven't been told to have a VF5 tournament as of yet so it's off the lists for now.

If you're doubtful in any game, practice makes perfect :)

Oh, I can play Expert on Guitar Hero 3 but I can't beat TtFaF or many of the final tier songs.

I play Halo 3 almost every day and I don't have a PS2 anymore to practice Bleach/Soul Calibur 3/Tekken.

Im decent at Third Strike but I suck at the arcade and usually get raped.

Oh well... its all in good fun.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 04:50:56 PM
Tournaments are free, so no harm in entering... well maybe a little, but it's ok.  ;D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on February 27, 2008, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 04:50:56 PM
Tournaments are free, so no harm in entering... well maybe a little, but it's ok.  ;D

Just make sure glitches are not allowed.

Last year I tried to play Soul Calibur 3 against some guy... he kept using that Lizardman glitch that perma stuns you which lead to a two hit ring out.

NOT FAIR!


Also, what about DS games?

Such as Jump Ultimate Stars, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Metriod Prime Hunters, etc.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 09:37:32 PM
Yes, all glitches are banned.  I don't know every glitch in every game, but i'll try to compose a list of the known glitches.  I'll probably need the players to help me such glitches if they're used.

I should probably add that to my main post.  Thanks for reminding me.

We're not looking into portable console tournaments to my knowledge.  Sorry :( Only home game consoles.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on February 28, 2008, 01:15:09 AM
May I ask or find out where to ask what the rules for the halo 3 tournament will be (default or MLG)?
Will We be playing 1.0(out of the box) or 1.1(updated online)?

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tsubasa on February 28, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 09:37:32 PM
Yes, all glitches are banned.  I don't know every glitch in every game, but i'll try to compose a list of the known glitches.  I'll probably need the players to help me such glitches if they're used.

I think that should be "all major balance-breaking glitches are banned."  A lot of fighting games have glitches that are still allowed under standard tourney rules.  This obviously varies from game to game.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 28, 2008, 08:59:24 AM
Looking around, the only glitch that I've found that's notable as "unfair" for the fighting games listed thus far is the VC glitch for SC3.
Based on other tournaments, you're allowed to VC glitch "post-GI" (is this guard impact??) but not attack.
And I see the stun rethrow setup isn't allowed.
Can someone confrim GI = guard impact? or whatever it means.
Well SC3 isn't confirmed for tournament yet, but if we do confirm it I'll be sure to have this rule.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tsubasa on February 28, 2008, 09:31:51 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 28, 2008, 08:59:24 AM
Can someone confrim GI = guard impact?

Yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 28, 2008, 09:58:57 AM
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Narutotaku on February 28, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
 Konychiwa Otaku elite and all sub-species of anime/manga fan(Genshiken),

  I still suggest Naruto Ultimate Ninja 3. It has summoning, all 5 Hokage, and the graphics are better than the Wii version Naruto games!!!  8)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 28, 2008, 01:54:17 PM
I'll talk to my boss about it next time I see him.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Chewie on February 28, 2008, 03:28:58 PM
Does that controller disclaimer apply to those people loaning their equipment to fanime for the tourneys?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 28, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
If you're optionally bringing a controller for your own personal use or to let others use during the tournament, we're not responsible.  It's the same disclaimer as any event/ location giving the disclaimer of holding no responsibility for lost/ stolen/ broken items.

Items lent to us at our request is a different story.  This situation will be handled as it arises.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on February 29, 2008, 08:14:00 AM
Wait... all glitches are banned? That means, that the majority of MvC2 is banned. Unfly is a glitch, and so are a lot of game play options that are considered basics.

Are charge partitions banned in 3S?

Banning all glitches, is stupid, because it's forcing the game to be played in such a way that destroys the game plans of virtually anyone that knows the game well.

Evo set rules, where game breaking glitches are banned, and only game breaking glitches(as in, I do glitch and I'm guaranteed victory such as Gambit flying off the screen, or any of the crash glitches). Local glitches which give new properties to moves/characters but do not destroy the overall balance of the game should not be removed.

Tron Projectile assisst for example... is technically a glitch, are we banning that assisst in MvC2? Guard crushing, and push block cancelling, all glitches, you might as well say "You can't play MvC2 even though we're having an MvC2 tournament".
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on February 29, 2008, 09:48:44 AM
Yes, yes.  I got that from the last guy clarifying the definition of a glitch.
I've been thinking of how to reword that part of my post.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.  :D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: HentaiTentacleDemon on February 29, 2008, 09:53:30 PM
freakin' finally! a tournament! what is the entry fee?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 01, 2008, 01:53:29 AM
Quote from: HentaiTentacleDemon on February 29, 2008, 09:53:30 PM
freakin' finally! a tournament! what is the entry fee?

Free... seeing that they cant charge money for a tournament as that could be considered gambling yatta yatta...

Prizes won't be cash, but free crap from donated goods and other things.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 01, 2008, 02:21:43 AM
Entrance fee is your admission into Fanime  :P
No badge, no tournament for you.  :D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 01, 2008, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:16:37 AM

Bleach Blade Battle 2            Import
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+ player cap TBD
4stock 2/3 games

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection                     Import
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+40 person cap
3/5 rounds, 2/3 matches, double elimination

Marvel VS. Capcom 2 New Age of Heroes tornament   Import
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+40 person cap
2/3 games

Street Fighters III 3rd Strike tornament          Import
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+40 person cap
2/3 rounds, 2/3 games

Guilty Gear Accent Core (or plus, TBD)
2/3 rounds 2/3 games
Guilty Gear has always banned Kliff & Justice, EX characters, Gold & Shadow characters, and Guilty Gear 1 mode, no #reload characters.

Halo 3
+cap TBD
1v1v1v1 or 2v2, 1st to 25, 7 minute game.

Melty Blood (version b probably)
Default settings (2/3 rounds, 2/3 games)

BeatMania II DX 13th Style Distorted or 14th Style Gold
+Highest score wins
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+40 person cap
1 game per person per match

Guitar Hero 3
+1st & 2nd place winners gets prizes
+40 person cap
1 game per person per match

More games to be added.
To avoid any E-riots, CoD4, CvS2, Smash bros Brawl, soul calibur, and Naruto clash of ninja 4 are all on our list of planned tournaments.  Confirming rules and accessibility to these games first.  :D

Side note, I don't know how many staff members you have and the such, and what your expected times are going to be so I'm going to throw down a bunch of numbers for your usage.

A 32 man tournament for SF3:3s, double elimination on 3 machines on average will take about 4-6 hours.

A 64 man tournament for SF3 will take about 10-12 hours.

Bracket wising, 40 is a horrible number to have, because it will be consisting of almost the entire first round to be byes, and only about 4 people playing in the first round to weed out those 4. You'd have to make 2 32 man brackets. If you're going to cap it, cap it at 32 or 64.

With IIDX, you can't have a bracket style match unless you're going to be taking upwards to 14 hours. You're going to have to have a cut number. And in general it's going to have to be a predetermined set of songs since 1 song is too easy to fluke(especially on a song with a set of drumrolls or the such) and you have to put into consideration that, each song is anywhere from 1:35- 3minutes long. Let's say you decide on a set of 3 songs, that's up to 9 minutes for one person to go. 32 people(you're not getting 32 people) first round is a couple of hours alone. If you cut that at even 50% 16 is still going to be another 2 hours and you're going to be looking at another 10 hour+ tournament.

With IIDX you can do a qualifiers timer. Where anyone can enter and try to qualify whenever they have time on friday. And then post up the say, top 16 on saturday and those top 16 are in the tournament bracket wise. Or top score wise. Since you're taking the top 2, bracket wise is better, and there's no point in having a double elimination for IIDX. If you need a more detailed post about how this could work, feel free to ask. The biggest issue with game tournaments is the amount of time it takes out from the convention. Let's say you start the tournament at 11... and there's things people want to do later... like 6pm. Most people think that, "Oh that's 7 hours away that's plenty of time" and don't realize how long these tournaments take, even when you have 3-4 dedicated machines running.

More numbers... Evo had a dedicated team of 8-15 machines running, with pools going 300 people, double elimination, single game. Even with them being single games, it still took upwards to 6 hours a game to finish. So just putting this into speculation. Tournaments take a LONG TIME, and you have to be really careful with this at a convention.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Ohsu on March 01, 2008, 09:04:09 PM
Don't know if this is clarified, but Marvel should not be on PS2

JT don't lose to ganny again
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 02, 2008, 05:03:21 AM
Yes I'm aware of the numbers and amount of time it takes.

To add to your numbers: all music games are planned to be 1 game per person.  That's it.  So each match should take 6 minutes tops.  Considering the fear I see in most fanime attendants at the sight of real players of any game, there shouldn't be 36.

300 people for 8-15 machines? 36 people for 1 machine will be the max expectancy.

Also as you said about IIDX, the probability of these tournaments reaching their max capacity is slim to none.

We barely made 12 people for tekken last year, let alone 40.

True that capping at 40 is an off number, so I'll probably drop it to 36.  All tournaments will be capped.  As it states, all rules are subject to change as I have to finish researching rules and getting the okay from my boss.

Tournaments will be held parallel to one another and probably on 2 days.  Friday and Saturday or Saturday and Sunday.  I plan to have 2 helpers and some of the players (as is how we do it for Norcal regionals) help coordinate.  Any player I pick to help will be people I know to be experienced in said game or as a gamer/ tournament facilitator in general.  I expect to have 3-4 tournaments going at a time, and yes I understand they'll take upwards of 4 hours.  I expect no tournament except maybe IIDX/ guitar hero to exceed or even meet this.  Prepared for the worst, all tournaments will be 36 man tournaments and we'll be there for a while.  As it is my duty as a staff member to do 24 hours (minimum) throughout the weekend, I don't mind committing an 8 hour shift on saturday and an 8 hour shift on sunday to tournaments.  I picked this job for it to be done right, unlike last year, and I will have it done as right as possible given E-gaming's capacity.

It is true that this can be taking away from the other events at fanime, but my concern is E-gaming.  You need diversity in fanime, because that's what fanime is.  We have musicfest, anime playing, the dealer room, masquerade, and e-gaming.  I want all of them to succeed and I am doing my part to make sure my department succeeds.  This means e-gaming will be the real deal tournament formats or EXTREMELY close to them.  That is the very reason I got this position because I said I would do these tournaments like the real thing.

Thank you for your input and I'll modify the formats with this in mind.  The song list thing that you brought up is a good idea.  I just need to figure out which songs.  Pending the number of entrants to IIDX and guitar hero, I MIGHT do the qualifiers before the tournament that you mentioned.

And Jeff, Bronson just kicked my ass on Friday with Ganryu, sorry to disappoint you.  I'll know the console for MvC2 (probably dreamcast) next weekend.  Want to help me with the tournaments if you're in the area? :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Sunara Ishi on March 02, 2008, 01:17:34 PM
I might get in on Melty. Depends on what else is going on at fanime that might distract me. XD;

If Brawl happens, I'm so in. ^o^
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 02, 2008, 03:03:18 PM
DC is the only playable MvC there is(and even then, it isn't even close to arcade perfect).

Even if the cap of 36 isn't met, one machine is horrible. One machine double elim with 16 people takes a good 4 hours still. You're better off running 1 tournament with 2 machines than running 2 tournaments with 1 machine each. Reason being is that, this will give more people free time to designate how they want. Someone can enter that tournament, it will end earlier, then leave and go see a panel or something, instead of having 2 tournaments where they're all stuck there for 4 hours. Time designation as well. It is also better for people entering multiple tournaments, that way there's no conflict of someone having to run back and fourth to play games and mixing mindsets and the what not. Going from a 3S game, to say Melty Blood, sometimes they have 3S mentallity still and will try to parry and what not.

It's generally better to stick with one game, get it out of the way, and move on to the next.

Bronson is a whore, he runs away from me even though we're brothers.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 02, 2008, 06:25:42 PM
Whatever you have against Bronson isn't my problem. :)  You 2 duke it out, it's not relevant to me.

As I said, I will run these tournaments to the best that I can based on E-gaming's capacity.

I don't know which systems we'll have and how many of each system.  All I know is that between myself and my boss, there's 2-3 ps2's, and 2 ps3's.  Either him or his friend has a DC.  When I find out how many machines I have I will determine how these tournaments will go.  If you're asking me to put 2 MvC2 up and I only have a ps2 and a DC, I think you'll be displeased to play on the PS2.

If we have 2-3 confirmed machines of each console, then we may be able to do it your way with 2 tournaments simultaneously.  As long as I can have at least 2 tournaments going parallel, it's efficient to me.  I know that there's talk from one of the Halo players of bringing his 360 to play halo with his team.  I need to find out who's lending us their systems and who I can ask to lend us systems.  When all of the consoles available and copies of games available are known to me, I can determine the tournament schedule.  Until then, bare with me :)

Thanks for your input by the way.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Ohsu on March 02, 2008, 10:05:11 PM
JT I wanna play some Tekken. Pick me up so I can play with you guys :<

I'll help if I'm around, but are tourney handlers not allowed to play? I heard that 2 years and last year "as a general obvious rule," but you played last year...dunno about the other year.

Just hope your DC won't die (like mine)

You should have a tourney for MB to see whoever mashes 2A the most  :'(
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 02, 2008, 10:23:48 PM
we will have a tourney to mash your face off in :p

fool go drive your honda over here!! I don't wanna come from san jose to get you!

I'll just give instructions to a helper to run the tekken tourney so i can enter ;)

It won't be my DC so I don't care :D  I only care about my PS3 that's not leaving my sight while in use.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 02, 2008, 11:44:42 PM
Oh goodness, thanks for PyronIkari so I didn't have to type all that stuff out. But yeah, MvC2 on anything else but DC is trash, and if it's on Dreamcast will you provide convertors? And props for letting us use our own controllers, I don't want to be playing on some janky ass ps2 pad for Marvel/CvS2.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 02, 2008, 11:47:46 PM
Good question.  I'll get back to you on that.

I will have a converter for my ps3 to use sticks/ ps2 pads, but I don't know what we have for the other consoles.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 02, 2008, 11:55:21 PM
Also regarding MBAC, The only valid version now is Version B on the PC. The ps2 port is way inferior, some things don't work the same, speed is different, and I can't even use my main (White Len)

Also how about Super Turbo HD Remix?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Chewie on March 03, 2008, 07:16:37 AM
Nothing to add other than charging for a tournament is in no way legally construable as gambling.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: HentaiTentacleDemon on March 05, 2008, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 01, 2008, 01:53:29 AM
Quote from: HentaiTentacleDemon on February 29, 2008, 09:53:30 PM
freakin' finally! a tournament! what is the entry fee?
Free... seeing that they cant charge money for a tournament as that could be considered gambling yatta yatta...

Prizes won't be cash, but free crap from donated goods and other things.
does this help? i'm too lazy to read it and figure it out myself.

http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/California/

TIP: do a word search for "tournament"
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 05, 2008, 01:14:24 PM
HentaiTentacleDemon needs to think about his definition of gambling.  I'm not picking a side, nor am I saying we'll be having entrance fees since we won't, but you're saying every tournament I've ever entered and ever will enter is illegal and everyone I know should be arrested.  I am pretty sure every company that holds promotional tournaments should be arrested too since they have entrance fees to their "leagues".

I'm not trying to go against you, but that's the logic that follows your posts to me.  I think gaming will die out if we follow that as the competitive scene will all be vanish.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 05, 2008, 02:22:09 PM
More games have been added. :D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 05, 2008, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: HentaiTentacleDemon on March 05, 2008, 11:43:28 AM

http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/California/

TIP: do a word search for "tournament"

"Contest" does not include a sporting event, performance, or tournament of skill, power or endurance between participants who are actually present.

It's illegal. It's like, playing poker with friends for money at home. It's illegal. No one cares, but it doesn't change that it's illegal. But when we're talking a huge event like this... it could cause problems since "the convention is supporting gambling/underaged gambling" illegally. Plus, there's all the stipulations even if it wasn't to make it not illegal. Fully written rules must be presented, all stipulations etc. which is a pain and a half to even attempt to do.

You can't charge money.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 05, 2008, 09:21:45 PM
I guess Ill have a go.

paying a Tornament entry fee is not gambling. If it was, then MLG would be gambleing. Youre not really gambling anything. You pay, you play, and you might win, getting you a prize. The entry fee is for more or less to pay for expenses  such as electricity, equipment, and the like, and for the people running the tournament. Simply put, if paying to enter a tournament is gambling, then paying to play a game at Chunky Cheese for tickets is GAMBLING
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 05, 2008, 09:25:37 PM
Of course none of this matters because the tournaments are free...
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Sunara Ishi on March 05, 2008, 10:50:51 PM
Seeing as most of these games have caps for players, how will sign ups work? I never actually played a tourney at fanime so I don't know. I think I would like to be in on Brawl and MBAC.
Will it be the same day? A few hours before? I'm sure there'd be a huge crowd rushing to sign up so I'd like to be prepared to be early enough.

Well.. MBAC if I improve by fanime. I might join anyway just for the fun of it.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 05, 2008, 11:47:21 PM
We'll have sign up sheets in the E-gaming room as of Friday afternoon all the way until the tournaments.

I'll print out these rules and have them taped next to the sign up sheets.

And while we're at listing illegal tournaments, add EVO qualifiers to the list of illegal tournaments since you have to pay to enter :) I am pretty sure EVO is a larger event than our E-gaming tournaments and it'll be a hell of an act to convince them that charging for qualifiers is illegal.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 06, 2008, 08:05:11 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 05, 2008, 11:47:21 PM
We'll have sign up sheets in the E-gaming room as of Friday afternoon all the way until the tournaments.

I'll print out these rules and have them taped next to the sign up sheets.

And while we're at listing illegal tournaments, add EVO qualifiers to the list of illegal tournaments since you have to pay to enter :) I am pretty sure EVO is a larger event than our E-gaming tournaments and it'll be a hell of an act to convince them that charging for qualifiers is illegal.

Ugh... I like how someone else linked something to me, which ended up agreeing with me, and none of you are even bothering to read what was said. Instead you're just going "WELL NU-UH SO AND SO DOES IT TOO!"
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on March 06, 2008, 09:45:08 AM
I hope someone will have a Wii with brawl set up on like Saturday night at 4am.

Prime time gaming time at 4am.

:D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 06, 2008, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 06, 2008, 08:05:11 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 05, 2008, 11:47:21 PM
We'll have sign up sheets in the E-gaming room as of Friday afternoon all the way until the tournaments.

I'll print out these rules and have them taped next to the sign up sheets.

And while we're at listing illegal tournaments, add EVO qualifiers to the list of illegal tournaments since you have to pay to enter :) I am pretty sure EVO is a larger event than our E-gaming tournaments and it'll be a hell of an act to convince them that charging for qualifiers is illegal.

Ugh... I like how someone else linked something to me, which ended up agreeing with me, and none of you are even bothering to read what was said. Instead you're just going "WELL NU-UH SO AND SO DOES IT TOO!"
Oh I read that link just fine.  It says that competitions of sport, skill, chance, power, or endurance are not "contests".  "contests" are, from what I took from that link, sweepstakes.  Those crap "contests" where you solve a crossword puzzle or riddle and turn it in and hope that you win.  It also states that if there's a tie in one of these that the people need to be notified and that any extra payment beyond "postage and shipping" is OPTIONAL.  Effectively any real competition with a tangible prize is illegal in California based on that article if it REQUIRES an entrance fee of any sort from what I took of it.

Don't assume we can't read.  And get your illegal tournament debate out of the E-gaming tournament thread.  This thread is for people to know that fanime is having a tournament, not for peope to debate what tournaments are illegal.  And nobody cares if they're illegal or not because they've been going on for years and nobody's stopped them.  If nobody's stopped them up to now, why are they going to start?  Go make a thread outside of this about it if you want to continue.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: HentaiTentacleDemon on March 06, 2008, 11:25:26 AM
so will there be an entry fee or not?
and if so, then how much will it be?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 06, 2008, 12:07:08 PM
As stated in my post like... 3 posts ago, no entrance fee.
You guys are either staff of fanime or attendants who paid admission to fanime.
These tournaments are first come first serve, "free" tournaments.
Our tournaments have unconfirmed sponsors, so even though there's no entrance fee you should be getting some worthwhile prizes :)
Hope to see you there.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 06, 2008, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 06, 2008, 10:53:25 AM
Oh I read that link just fine.  It says that competitions of sport, skill, chance, power, or endurance are not "contests".  "contests" are, from what I took from that link, sweepstakes.  Those crap "contests" where you solve a crossword puzzle or riddle and turn it in and hope that you win.  It also states that if there's a tie in one of these that the people need to be notified and that any extra payment beyond "postage and shipping" is OPTIONAL.  Effectively any real competition with a tangible prize is illegal in California based on that article if it REQUIRES an entrance fee of any sort from what I took of it.

Don't assume we can't read.  And get your illegal tournament debate out of the E-gaming tournament thread.  This thread is for people to know that fanime is having a tournament, not for peope to debate what tournaments are illegal.  And nobody cares if they're illegal or not because they've been going on for years and nobody's stopped them.  If nobody's stopped them up to now, why are they going to start?  Go make a thread outside of this about it if you want to continue.
Contests are legal. If it doesn't fit into the category... it is NOT a contest therefore, illegal. Sweepstakes are a different category all together.

And you're right. Any real competition with a tangible prize is illegal in California if the prize is reflective monetarilly. Basically, you're putting in money, in an attempt to win someone else's money. Hence... gambling. There's also other issues, such as copyright issues.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 06, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
*points at illegal tournament fees thread*

I'm not commenting on this subject anymore outside the thread I created.

Update:
Japan Video is sponsoring our import game tournaments!! Prizes in original post NOW!!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 06, 2008, 10:39:31 PM
Wowowowowowowow!

You're using the now obsolete, and really buggy version of GG^c? The japanese version is filled with so many unplayable bugs now that the American version is released that is as close as we can get to arcade perfection. Unless ofcourse you're using GGAC+ (Jpn bugfix version)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 07, 2008, 12:28:14 AM
Oh, sorry I didn't put the confirmation that GG AC will be the plus version.
I've talked to many GG players along with my boss and we're confirmed to be using GGAC+.
:)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: clawmaster on March 07, 2008, 12:22:20 PM
is there any pc tournys going to be going on?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: HentaiTentacleDemon on March 07, 2008, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:16:37 AM
-If you are not present when called for your match you will forfeit 1 game if we have to do a different match.  If you are not present after the replacement match you will forfeit that match.
can i just leave my cell phone number for you to call me when my turn comes up? i'm willing to pay you for this service.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 07, 2008, 01:26:44 PM
There won't be any special treatment given.  Just like any organized tournament you must remain in the tournament area as long as you are still within the tournament.  If you're entering in more than 1 tournament, it's even less practical for you to leave the area since you may be in matches back to back.

If, however, you have to go to the bathroom or you have an emergency you must attend to for say... 10 minutes, I will allow you to leave the area and I will push your next match as far back as possible.  If you leave the area without a valid reason, you will be penalized 1 game as stated.

Which reminds me, I need to clarify on multiple entrants in my original post :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 07, 2008, 08:31:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 07, 2008, 12:28:14 AM
Oh, sorry I didn't put the confirmation that GG AC will be the plus version.
I've talked to many GG players along with my boss and we're confirmed to be using GGAC+.
:)

Okay, that's nice, I was going to get worried.

Quote from: HentaiTentacleDemon on March 07, 2008, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on February 27, 2008, 12:16:37 AM
-If you are not present when called for your match you will forfeit 1 game if we have to do a different match.  If you are not present after the replacement match you will forfeit that match.
can i just leave my cell phone number for you to call me when my turn comes up? i'm willing to pay you for this service.


This is actually more of an inconvenience than if you were to be missing. As being a tournament runner myself I want my competitors to be there, not any of this "Call me okay" or "I'll do this if you call me." You can hope that if you give a headsup that that if you possibilily might not be there they MIGHT give you a 5 minute leway or the sort. It's being courteous to the tournament hosts, they're spending their own time to run it. So be there or be square basically.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: illuminazn on March 14, 2008, 04:21:38 PM
JTChinoy,
I was just wondering if you still needed help with the CoD4 rules and such, as I can provide help for you along with advice.
If you need me, just send me a message and ill get back to you ASAP.

Don't want you to take the burden alone.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Emerge on March 15, 2008, 03:51:21 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are the /\C+ bug fixes identical to the fixes that came with the US /\C release or are there a few more that the US version missed (and yeah...Kliff and Justice, but no one's gonna use 'em anyway)?

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tsuchimi Rin-chan on March 15, 2008, 10:23:40 AM
We are going to use the GG Accent Core Playstation 2 Import Version for the Tourney.  Not the US Version.  The Japanese Version of this has the bugs fixed.  No word of a fixed version of GG Accent Core coming to America as far as I know.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 15, 2008, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Tsuchimi Rin-chan on March 15, 2008, 10:23:40 AM
We are going to use the GG Accent Core Playstation 2 Import Version for the Tourney.  Not the US Version.  The Japanese Version of this has the bugs fixed.  No word of a fixed version of GG Accent Core coming to America as far as I know.

There is no reason to. US version has bug fixes minus I think it was Johnny's jackhound wasn't jump installed or some crap. I don't care, I just run up dp with Sol, Daigo umecanicviper style.

I am wondering though, how will you guys have PC's set up for MBAC. If you need a consultant for setting up MBAC lag-free for the pc, drop me a pm.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: HentaiTentacleDemon on March 17, 2008, 10:01:35 AM
Tournament Bracket Builder
http://jobu.netfirms.com/tbb/
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 18, 2008, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: illuminazn on March 14, 2008, 04:21:38 PM
JTChinoy,
I was just wondering if you still needed help with the CoD4 rules and such, as I can provide help for you along with advice.
If you need me, just send me a message and ill get back to you ASAP.

Don't want you to take the burden alone.

thanks a lot! i'll let you know after i talk to my boss some more.  there's a couple issues at hand that suddenly came to light during the last meeting that i've been pondering over. after i clear this up i'll message you. :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 19, 2008, 02:36:53 PM
http://www.meltybread.com/forums/index.php?topic=595.0

This thread contains ALJ Tournament maker and TIO's tournament maker. I used ALJ back in my tourney running days at WT and it's very simple. I think it's Vista compatable. If you have any questions running it drop me a PM. I have no idea how to use TIO's maybe I'll download it and tinker with it and post back here.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xiaomei on March 19, 2008, 04:38:53 PM
Is there a time to sign up for the tournaments or do we just join in? ^^
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 19, 2008, 05:48:55 PM
Sign ups will be held starting friday all the way until 30 minutes before the tournament start time.

thanks mizuki!

just to throw this out there, some tournaments MAY be cancelled due to lack of prizes  >:(

i need to figure it all out.  :o

confirmed for sure are all import game tournaments, since those have prizes.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 19, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 19, 2008, 05:48:55 PM
Sign ups will be held starting friday all the way until 30 minutes before the tournament start time.

thanks mizuki!

just to throw this out there, some tournaments MAY be cancelled due to lack of prizes  >:(

i need to figure it all out.  :o

confirmed for sure are all import game tournaments, since those have prizes.
:o Not The H3 tournament!?!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 19, 2008, 05:55:35 PM
i can't say at the moment.
with lack of prizes i don't see a point in some tournaments unless you guys would be happy with championship certificates of fanime  8)
if people are happy with that, i'd gladly make those, lol.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 19, 2008, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 19, 2008, 05:55:35 PM
i can't say at the moment.
with lack of prizes i don't see a point in some tournaments unless you guys would be happy with championship certificates of fanime  8)
if people are happy with that, i'd gladly make those, lol.
I would be.
As they say, well only me:
"Win for the pride, not for the prize"
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 19, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
I may run some unofficial pride tournaments then if things are going the way i think they are then :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 19, 2008, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 19, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
I may run some unofficial pride tournaments then if things are going the way i think they are then :)

Yay!!!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on March 19, 2008, 09:19:00 PM
I still win CvS2.

I still lose CvS2 against PyronIkari.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xiaomei on March 20, 2008, 05:59:24 PM
for brawl, will it be 1vs1 or something else? like a team battle/free for all o.o?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 20, 2008, 09:10:50 PM
it'll be 1v1
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: M on March 21, 2008, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on March 19, 2008, 09:19:00 PMI still lose CvS2 against PyronIkari.
PyronIkari sucks at CvS2. I'll beat him anyday (I know his weakness!).
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xiaomei on March 21, 2008, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 20, 2008, 09:10:50 PM
it'll be 1v1
okay, thanks ^o^

do we stick with one character through the whole SSBB tournament or can we choose new ones?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on March 21, 2008, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: MPLe on March 21, 2008, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on March 19, 2008, 09:19:00 PMI still lose CvS2 against PyronIkari.
PyronIkari sucks at CvS2. I'll beat him anyday (I know his weakness!).

Jae Kinetic picture?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 21, 2008, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: xiaomei on March 21, 2008, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 20, 2008, 09:10:50 PM
it'll be 1v1
okay, thanks ^o^

do we stick with one character through the whole SSBB tournament or can we choose new ones?

it's in my first post.  during a match, winner keeps character and loser may switch.  if you lose the 2nd game, you may now switch and your opponent must keep their character.

you may change your character at anytime except at the mentioned situation.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xiaomei on March 23, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
Sorry for asking so much but, how do you sign up @___@?!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: bahamutknightzero on March 23, 2008, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: xiaomei on March 23, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
Sorry for asking so much but, how do you sign up @___@?!

I think they'll have some sort of signups area or clipboard ready on the 1st day of Con (Friday)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Jun-Watarase on March 25, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on March 21, 2008, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: MPLe on March 21, 2008, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on March 19, 2008, 09:19:00 PMI still lose CvS2 against PyronIkari.
PyronIkari sucks at CvS2. I'll beat him anyday (I know his weakness!).

Jae Kinetic picture?

ROFL.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 25, 2008, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: xiaomei on March 23, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
Sorry for asking so much but, how do you sign up @___@?!
There will be a table with sign up sheets on friday and saturday.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xiaomei on March 25, 2008, 09:35:22 PM
Will there be a schedule posted sometime with all the times each tournament starts?

I'll be volunteering for the maid cafe and I don't wanna miss out on the SSBB tourney.. >___<;;
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 25, 2008, 10:06:01 PM
yes there will be times posted.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: LordKefka on April 01, 2008, 01:06:08 AM
Will these games be available even if there isn't a tourney going on? I would like to avoid spending too much at the arcades (if they would even have MvC2 for the arcades)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: NobuxD on April 01, 2008, 01:18:45 AM
When will registrations for the Brawl tourny be open? o.o
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 01, 2008, 02:13:05 AM
All of these games will be on console, and SHOULD be available to play prior to the tournaments.

Friday and Saturday and Sunday these games will be up for casual gaming and it doesn't cost anything to play.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: NobuxD on April 01, 2008, 02:55:01 AM
It's gonna be seriously crowded in there D; I'm so sure of it.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 01, 2008, 11:09:11 AM
Depends on the game.

Smash and Naruto will probably be crowded, as will the music games.

The other games... not so much.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 01, 2008, 05:53:12 PM
Im looking forward to some tough and fun matches, ill even want to challenge some of the winners just for fun if I am allowed, wont affect the winner at all just you know if im going to be watching and giving out some prizes i'd like to see how my skills rank against tougher people XD
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on April 01, 2008, 06:03:21 PM
I just realized.. this is the same Japan Video Games in San Gabriel that I used to go to all the time with my friend Jimmy. Why are you guys trekking all the way up to fanime @_@
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 01, 2008, 06:23:13 PM
Haha glad you remember us, we actually moved to Temple City (a few miles away) about a yr ago. Were going up cause it will be the 2nd Anime Convention we will be attending (first was AX last yr) and hope to start going to more, for all our customers and new people that can learn about us. 
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 01, 2008, 06:59:26 PM
You're welcome to challenge anyone as long as it doesn't interfere with our tournaments. :)  Remember that we have casuals before the tournaments so you can scope out who you think will win.

I challenge you to tekken.  :-X
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 01, 2008, 08:00:46 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on April 01, 2008, 06:59:26 PM
You're welcome to challenge anyone as long as it doesn't interfere with our tournaments. :)  Remember that we have casuals before the tournaments so you can scope out who you think will win.

I challenge you to tekken.  :-X

challenge accepted!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 01, 2008, 08:17:57 PM
buahahahahahaha. >:-)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: NobuxD on April 02, 2008, 12:33:54 AM
Ermm. I don't really know how to play tekken.. but Brawl (typical..) maybe? :] I'm trying to become one of the best Ptrainers D;
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 02, 2008, 12:49:46 AM
omg my squirtle will destroy u!!!!!!! not really =X
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: GS Dragono on April 03, 2008, 08:10:16 PM
Will Brawl matches have items, just FS, or none?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 03, 2008, 09:30:31 PM
no items. final smash is hax :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on April 03, 2008, 10:16:20 PM
No items, no FS, fox only, Final destination.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 05, 2008, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on April 03, 2008, 10:16:20 PM
No items, no FS, fox only, Final destination.
i forgot how the rest of it went. :P
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: LordKefka on April 05, 2008, 02:29:17 AM
Good to know I can play MvC2 for free.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: thebrain2u on April 10, 2008, 04:29:01 AM
Cool. I was in the Tekken Tourney two years ago. Couldn't take part in last years, but I'd like to play again this year. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: short_storiesgl on April 10, 2008, 01:44:05 PM
QuoteBeatMania II DX 13th Style Distorted or 14th Style Gold
+1st prize is $70 credit for any games at Japan Video
+2nd prize is $50 credit for any games at Japan Video
+Highest score wins
+32 person cap
1 game per person per match
I didnt see this. I want to do it.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 10, 2008, 03:01:16 PM
pre-register with richard in the other thread.  Being a music game, I assume this is a game everyone thinks they're good at and will want to enter.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on April 10, 2008, 07:11:57 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on April 10, 2008, 03:01:16 PM
pre-register with richard in the other thread.  Being a music game, I assume this is a game everyone thinks they're good at and will want to enter.

And Orochi will enter, win for free, the end.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 10, 2008, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on April 10, 2008, 07:11:57 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on April 10, 2008, 03:01:16 PM
pre-register with richard in the other thread.  Being a music game, I assume this is a game everyone thinks they're good at and will want to enter.

And Orochi will enter, win for free, the end.
Damnit man, now that you revealed the secret entrant, nobody will want to enter. :(
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: majorgit on April 12, 2008, 01:28:41 AM
i was wondering if there will be a specific song list for the rock band tournament, and will everyone have to play on expert? i was also wondering if i could bring my mega pedal, and even lend it to the event if you would like, because it cannot break, and would be a good way to make sure there is no screwed up equipment.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 12, 2008, 01:50:30 AM
I'll discuss that with Richard this coming Sunday during the fanime meeting.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: majorgit on April 14, 2008, 12:59:01 AM
while you're discussing the rules for the rock band tourney, i found these rules for another tourney, so maybe these might be a good template.   http://www.warfactory.net/events/rock-band-fundraiser-hazelwood-central-signup/rock-band-tournament-rules/
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 14, 2008, 01:55:53 AM
audience participation? eww. Suddenly sounds like popularity contest. :(
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: majorgit on April 14, 2008, 08:00:12 AM
that's kind of what rock band is about.  anyone can get a high score, but if they can rock out on stage and get the audience engaged, thats what a rock band is actually about.  most rock band and guitar hero tournaments actually regard presentation higher than score.  There was this one tournament where PristMLH (almost best GH player in world) 5 starred jordan and nearly got 100 %, but this other guy Freddy, was just doing stage dives and all this stuff and even though he missed a lot of notes, he won because he looked more presentable than just a guy standing there.  So yeah, it might be a little bit of a popularity contest, but in all fairness, that's what bands are about.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 14, 2008, 06:12:28 PM
hopefully you guys have something interesting in the Beatmania tournament, I want to see people having fun believing they have a chance to win and not the best person is just going to walk away and everyone feeling sad, or scared cause they know hes the best.

I know lets apply a rule for all the good players they can only use one finger on each hand XD
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on April 14, 2008, 06:44:41 PM
Yeah, Rock Band and Guitar Hero Torny rules are really whack sometimes.

Personally, I see those rules to completely void the need to be even good at a game to win.

Bottom line, don't use those rules.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 14, 2008, 07:05:08 PM
I personally can't justify using judges to determine winners.
Being from the DDR community (at one point in my life), I understand the unavoidable bias that judges bring to the table.  Seeing this bias, I try to make all tournaments as unbiased as I possibly can.

If you want tournaments with judges and to have presentation, I would suggest bringing this up with maybe Stage 0 or something, since it would be more fitting to have a performance based Rock Band tournament on a stage.  I unfortunately want these tournaments to be score based because I want to avoid any bias.  If someone is really cool with most onlookers, that person's group will undoubtedly win "crowd participation".  This is how I experienced freestyle for DDR tournies and I don't want to see it happen again.

Don't ask me to judge because I'm a very harsh critic, especially of myself.  Then you have to make a weight system on how much gross score and how much crowd participation affect the total score.

Chris, what do you have in mind for beatmania/ IIDX?  If we needs judges again, I'd rather not.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on April 14, 2008, 07:20:21 PM
orochi would still win...

Orochi could use a PS2 pad... and still beat 99% of the people that would show up at fanime.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 14, 2008, 07:22:39 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on April 14, 2008, 07:20:21 PM
orochi would still win...

Orochi could use a PS2 pad... and still beat 99% of the people that would show up at fanime.
Really?  I've only seen how insane he is at svgl.  Never on a controller... that's like winning a brawl tournament with just a wiimote (no nunchuck)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on April 14, 2008, 08:46:28 PM
I've seen him AAA Final Countdown Another and Sync on control pad.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 14, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Bryant needs a different video game to master, LOL.

He needs to pick up Tekken again. :P
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 15, 2008, 04:36:25 PM
hmm ill try to think of something but also let others give advice on what we can do.....(in other words people if you have any ideas how to make the Beatmania  tournament fair for everyone give some ideas)

Judging I don't think will be necessary. I don't care for style, skill, just people doing there best and having fun. But when people don't join cause they know they will lose or don't try just kinda kills the fun.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 15, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
There's nothing we can do if people are doubtful in themselves.  It's not like I'm stating any favorites to win myself.  Anyone can be the underdog and cause a major upset (so to say)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 16, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
yea but i've been to tons of bemani tournaments and its usually always the same guys who win. Same applies even for Guitar Hero.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 16, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: Japanvideogames on April 16, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
yea but i've been to tons of bemani tournaments and its usually always the same guys who win. Same applies even for Guitar Hero.
Well it's fanime, not a tournament made by the bemani/ guitar hero community.

I'm sure there's an underdog in fanime that nobody knows about. ;)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Barnes on April 17, 2008, 01:21:55 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on April 03, 2008, 09:30:31 PM
no items. final smash is hax :)

So wait, that means NO Final Smash? If so, then boo. FS makes the game more interesting.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 17, 2008, 12:20:31 PM
Well once you get a final smash you effectively got a free kill.  That's not how tournaments are meant to go.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on April 17, 2008, 01:17:18 PM
I agree, Final Smash just doesn't work for completive play.

Some smashes are HAX0R powerful while others are N00BISHLY weak, which breaks game balance.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on April 17, 2008, 02:53:48 PM
only when theres 4 kirbys, or princess peaches on the field should there be final smashes!!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 17, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
4 jigglypuffs  ;D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on April 17, 2008, 03:23:53 PM
I am in for...

Halo 3
Brawl
Soul Calibur 3
Ah hell... Tekken DR and Third Strike.

:D

*is still working on his Tekken skill*

I can combo but I can't juggle... I suck at that.

Im decent at Third Strike... not anything special but I can hold my own... at times lol.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: takkun on April 17, 2008, 07:13:51 PM
I wanna play 3S but I don't have a stick.  DDD:

I can play GGXX: AA on controller somewhat, but I never play GG with anyone so I'm probably pretty scrubby.  =/
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: asuka245 on April 20, 2008, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Japanvideogames on April 16, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
yea but i've been to tons of bemani tournaments and its usually always the same guys who win. Same applies even for Guitar Hero.
Well I do Agree with u on that..Since MGL & SVGL,CVGL.
Most of the Hardcore Beatmania Players go to Fanime con every year still..So there could be some major Tournaments still at Fanime like  DDR,POP N Music & Beatmania II DX..
that would go very well around here still.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on April 20, 2008, 09:18:07 AM
Not that this will apply to 99% of people(probably only me if I do play).

3S tourney. Can supers be changed if you win?

I.E. Blind pick, I pick Necro, they pick Ken. I win, they switch to Yun. Am I allowed to switch supers to Magnetic Storm? Essentially that match is incredibly one sided as it is, but having Magnetic Storm, Necro has an actual counter to dive kick traps instead of having to blind guess parry(which is like 10% damage to Yun if Necro guesses right some how, and 80% damage to Necro if he guesses wrong).

Same with Makoto, SA II against Ken, Ken wins, can Makoto switch to SA1 if Ken player switches to Chun or mirror matches?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on April 21, 2008, 07:35:05 PM
I'm going to go with a yes at this point in time.

Seeing as how most players I've seen have been using single super characters, I've never had this scenario occur.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on April 22, 2008, 12:22:45 AM
I would ask for this but if I play I'm only playing Chun...

EI EI HUP EI HUP HUP EI EI.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: kay0ss on April 23, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
Finally, a IIDX tournament :>

I'll definitely be in for that, along with 3rd Strike and BRAWL.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: onimusha on April 23, 2008, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: kay0ss on April 23, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
Finally, a IIDX tournament :>

I'll definitely be in for that, along with 3rd Strike and BRAWL.
Yeah I hope there's many iidx player entering.  I'm gonna enter only the Guitar Hero 3 tourney.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 04, 2008, 04:51:24 PM
Due to the concerns of certain Fanime attendants, all M rated games have been removed from the E-gaming tournaments.  To my knowledge this has only removed Halo3 and CoD4.  All fighting games are still running as of this moment.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 04, 2008, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 04, 2008, 04:51:24 PM
...certain Fanime attendants...
...M rated games...
...removed from the tournaments...
...knowledge...
...removed Halo3...


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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!111!!!!1!ONE1!!!!!1!1!!!11!1!!!!1!!!!!

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 04, 2008, 08:16:59 PM
PyronIkari, do you have a DC converter I could use?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Khaistyle on May 05, 2008, 02:14:34 PM
Quote from: kay0ss on April 23, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
Finally, a IIDX tournament :>

Bring it on, John.  8)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tomibiki on May 05, 2008, 04:35:17 PM
Anyone set up to record Cencore/CvS2/3S matches? If not I'm all over it if that's cool.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 05, 2008, 06:24:06 PM
Go ahead and record them if you want.  I don't think we have anything set up to record the matches.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Arknight on May 07, 2008, 10:31:59 PM
Hey guys,

I don't mean to be nitpicky and bring this up again but will anyone have converters for the DC? I really want to compete in CvS2 but I don't own a DC or anything. Just a little curious. Thanks in advance for any responses.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 07, 2008, 10:48:00 PM
we're working on it.
i brought it up with my boss at the last meeting, so hopefully we will have some.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 07, 2008, 11:13:55 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 07, 2008, 10:48:00 PM
we're working on it.
i brought it up with my boss at the last meeting, so hopefully we will have some.

You know which to get right? It's something like the Total Control Plus or something it has no lag. Maybe PyronIkari can confirm/deny.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 08, 2008, 12:04:24 AM
Should use PS2 ver of CvS2...

DC version is easier to exploit stuff.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 08, 2008, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 08, 2008, 12:04:24 AM
Should use PS2 ver of CvS2...

DC version is easier to exploit stuff.
LOL I thought that said MvC2 for a second so I was about to disagree with you.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 08, 2008, 01:02:27 AM
Lol MvC2 on ps2.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 08, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on May 08, 2008, 01:02:27 AM
Lol MvC2 on ps2.
Don't make me hold this tournament on ps2. :P
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 08, 2008, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 08, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on May 08, 2008, 01:02:27 AM
Lol MvC2 on ps2.
Don't make me hold this tournament on ps2. :P

Lol, I don't even play Marvel. I bet half the peeps who play Marvel at the tourney can't even tell the diff between DC.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Loco:Neko on May 10, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
NO HALO 3?!?!?!?!?  your kidding me.... :(
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 10, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 10, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
NO HALO 3?!?!?!?!?  your kidding me.... :(

And yet theres going to be Halo 3 in the Ultimate Otaku Gamer Tournament...

Thats Bull!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xRaMeNx117 on May 10, 2008, 03:05:17 PM
That's really bad. I was looking foward to the halo 3 tournament too. love the late notice...
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 10, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 10, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
NO HALO 3?!?!?!?!?  your kidding me.... :(

And yet theres going to be Halo 3 in the Ultimate Otaku Gamer Tournament...

Thats Bull!
Sorry, I'm roughly only lacky status.  I don't decide the regulations, I only decide tournament rules and how the tournaments are carried out.  :-[
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: zemric on May 10, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 10, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 10, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
NO HALO 3?!?!?!?!?  your kidding me.... :(

And yet theres going to be Halo 3 in the Ultimate Otaku Gamer Tournament...

Thats Bull!
Sorry, I'm roughly only lacky status.  I don't decide the regulations, I only decide tournament rules and how the tournaments are carried out.  :-[
umm i dont think we will be having halo 3 in the otaku gamer tournament.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 10, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: zemric on May 10, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 10, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 10, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
NO HALO 3?!?!?!?!?  your kidding me.... :(

And yet theres going to be Halo 3 in the Ultimate Otaku Gamer Tournament...

Thats Bull!
Sorry, I'm roughly only lacky status.  I don't decide the regulations, I only decide tournament rules and how the tournaments are carried out.  :-[
umm i dont think we will be having halo 3 in the otaku gamer tournament.

It says in the list HERE (http://www.fanime.com/events/e-gaming).
Its the last in the third round.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 10, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: zemric on May 10, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 10, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 10, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
NO HALO 3?!?!?!?!?  your kidding me.... :(

And yet theres going to be Halo 3 in the Ultimate Otaku Gamer Tournament...

Thats Bull!
Sorry, I'm roughly only lacky status.  I don't decide the regulations, I only decide tournament rules and how the tournaments are carried out.  :-[
umm i dont think we will be having halo 3 in the otaku gamer tournament.

It says in the list HERE (http://www.fanime.com/events/e-gaming).
Its the last in the third round.
We'll bring it up with the higher ups.  Good eye.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 11, 2008, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Indeed
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xRaMeNx117 on May 11, 2008, 03:07:32 AM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Indeed
ditto
If its due to con regulations then I can understand but if not then it think it needs to be reconsidered. I would say have the M tournaments after hours at 10pm or later and have it 18+(id with sighn up) if that's the case.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 11, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: xRaMeNx117 on May 11, 2008, 03:07:32 AM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Indeed
ditto
If its due to con regulations then I can understand but if not then it think it needs to be reconsidered. I would say have the M tournaments after hours at 10pm or later and have it 18+(id with sighn up) if that's the case.

17+
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Loco:Neko on May 11, 2008, 12:19:44 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: xRaMeNx117 on May 11, 2008, 03:07:32 AM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Indeed
ditto
If its due to con regulations then I can understand but if not then it think it needs to be reconsidered. I would say have the M tournaments after hours at 10pm or later and have it 18+(id with sighn up) if that's the case.

17+

yes 17
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 11, 2008, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 11, 2008, 12:19:44 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: xRaMeNx117 on May 11, 2008, 03:07:32 AM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Indeed
ditto
If its due to con regulations then I can understand but if not then it think it needs to be reconsidered. I would say have the M tournaments after hours at 10pm or later and have it 18+(id with sighn up) if that's the case.

17+

yes 17

The sucky thing about it is Ill be 16.
And yet my birthday is exactly 1 month after the third day.

Maybe I can bring a permission slip from my mom!!!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 12, 2008, 08:31:17 AM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 11, 2008, 12:19:44 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: xRaMeNx117 on May 11, 2008, 03:07:32 AM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 11, 2008, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 10, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
I don't know how to play most of those games "well" on the Otaku tournament thing but I want to play Halo.
Indeed
ditto
If its due to con regulations then I can understand but if not then it think it needs to be reconsidered. I would say have the M tournaments after hours at 10pm or later and have it 18+(id with sighn up) if that's the case.

17+

yes 17

The sucky thing about it is Ill be 16.
And yet my birthday is exactly 1 month after the third day.

Maybe I can bring a permission slip from my mom!!!

So you're screwed either way, no use trying to get the game in then. :P
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Loco:Neko on May 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
Well HE may be screwed but there are more people who want this game in. Is there anyway we can find out why this was decided?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
Well HE may be screwed but there are more people who want this game in. Is there anyway we can find out why this was decided?

Are you seriously asking this?

Because it's an M rated game.

I don't know the exact laws and bindings about it, but playing it safe... By allowing an M rated game in a public tournament, they can be breaking limitation laws. It's like... playing a rated R movie publically. It's not allowed without carding everyone there. This would cause more problems than it's worth.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xRaMeNx117 on May 12, 2008, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
Well HE may be screwed but there are more people who want this game in. Is there anyway we can find out why this was decided?

Are you seriously asking this?

Because it's an M rated game.

I don't know the exact laws and bindings about it, but playing it safe... By allowing an M rated game in a public tournament, they can be breaking limitation laws. It's like... playing a rated R movie publically. It's not allowed without carding everyone there. This would cause more problems than it's worth.

I think what's ment here is why was this decision made? As in was it the con? Was it parents? Or did someone just wake up and say no m rated games! I would like a better explaination.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 01:59:13 PM
Quote from: xRaMeNx117 on May 12, 2008, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: Loco:Neko on May 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
Well HE may be screwed but there are more people who want this game in. Is there anyway we can find out why this was decided?

Are you seriously asking this?

Because it's an M rated game.

I don't know the exact laws and bindings about it, but playing it safe... By allowing an M rated game in a public tournament, they can be breaking limitation laws. It's like... playing a rated R movie publically. It's not allowed without carding everyone there. This would cause more problems than it's worth.

I think what's ment here is why was this decision made? As in was it the con? Was it parents? Or did someone just wake up and say no m rated games! I would like a better explaination.

What part of "THE LAW" being an issue, don't you get?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 12, 2008, 02:11:28 PM
It's the law, parents were voicing their "concerns" last year, and so it's cut.
That's all I was told and that's enough for me.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 12, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Places like EB-Games and such Have had Halo and other M rated tournaments in the past.

And why can't we just use some backroom at the convention center for this?

Card all the players to see if there 17 or not.

Now Lt knows Lt wont be playing this year, but if Lt can help getting M-rated games back this year, Lt can play them next year.

Besides, If Lt played in the Halo 3 tournament, I know Lt will win. Its a fact of life that Lt would win.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 12, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Places like EB-Games and such Have had Halo and other M rated tournaments in the past.

And why can't we just use some backroom at the convention center for this?

Card all the players to see if there 17 or not.

Now Lt knows Lt wont be playing this year, but if Lt can help getting M-rated games back this year, Lt can play them next year.

Besides, If Lt played in the Halo 3 tournament, I know Lt will win. Its a fact of life that Lt would win.

THose EB's could get in major trouble with Microsoft and coorporate if anyone complained or brought it up. Why not have it in a back room? Well.. then it wouldn't be a public tournament would it? It's way more of a pain in the ass than it's worth to appease the 6 people that really care that much. Here's a better idea.

THROW YOUR OWN GOD DAMNED HALO TOURNAMENT IN YOUR ROOM. The con would rather not get in trouble with the law. It's not that hard to understand.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 12, 2008, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 12, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Places like EB-Games and such Have had Halo and other M rated tournaments in the past.

And why can't we just use some backroom at the convention center for this?

Card all the players to see if there 17 or not.

Now Lt knows Lt wont be playing this year, but if Lt can help getting M-rated games back this year, Lt can play them next year.

Besides, If Lt played in the Halo 3 tournament, I know Lt will win. Its a fact of life that Lt would win.

THose EB's could get in major trouble with Microsoft and coorporate if anyone complained or brought it up. Why not have it in a back room? Well.. then it wouldn't be a public tournament would it? It's way more of a pain in the ass than it's worth to appease the 6 people that really care that much. Here's a better idea.

THROW YOUR OWN GOD DAMNED HALO TOURNAMENT IN YOUR ROOM. The con would rather not get in trouble with the law. It's not that hard to understand.

But than it wouldnt be a Fanime event...

Oh well, Lts not going to Fanime simply for a tornament.

Besides, come June, Lt will have more than enough Halo while Coaching Lts MLG team.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: xRaMeNx117 on May 12, 2008, 05:03:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 12, 2008, 02:11:28 PM
It's the law, parents were voicing their "concerns" last year, and so it's cut.
That's all I was told and that's enough for me.
ok that's a better answer. I can live with that. Other then just because its a mature game.

Pyron: man dude you don't need to be a dick all the time.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: zemric on May 12, 2008, 06:40:10 PM
sorry to burst the bubble of people and the 17 law but the guy who said 18 is right. for ca idk about other states but look up ca law about games and m rated games are 18+. don't yell at me but check ca state law.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 12, 2008, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: zemric on May 12, 2008, 06:40:10 PM
sorry to burst the bubble of people and the 17 law but the guy who said 18 is right. for ca idk about other states but look up ca law about games and m rated games are 18+. don't yell at me but check ca state law.

Give us a link.
I have never been told by anyone that M rated games are 18+ in California, and any store I have gone too has told me 17+, even the game boxes say it. I wonder how California treats AO-rated games (21 and over LOL)?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2008, 07:37:18 PM
M games are 17+ that's what makes them M.

AO games are 18+.

It says so on the package, and if a store refuses to sell you an M game at age 17, you can complain and you will win. I worked at Gamestop, and I worked at various game companies. The enforcement of the law however varies per-state. Technically the ESRB rating is only a guideline and has to actual worth within itself. However, states have made their own laws concerning them. In New York for example,  it's illegal to sell an M rated game to a minor, but not illegal to purchase an M rated game if you're a minor.

The ESRB is an indepent company, they are not a government sanctioned company.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 12, 2008, 10:47:37 PM
You guys keep dreaming up your fanime M rated tournaments if you want, or arguing for them.

You're now beating a dead horse.  Enjoy.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 13, 2008, 09:18:28 AM
We had Gears of War last year, Halo ain't shit compared to Gears in terms of brutality.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 13, 2008, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 12, 2008, 02:11:28 PM
It's the law, parents were voicing their "concerns" last year, and so it's cut.
That's all I was told and that's enough for me.
I could only guess that Gears of War was included in this list of concerns.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Khaistyle on May 13, 2008, 11:15:02 AM
When I'm done laughing about what a NON ISSUE this is at this point, at least be thankful that con ops didn't come down an personally pull the plug on your tournament and revoke your badge, like they did to me in 05. (don't ask.) The one thing I've learned about tournaments and fanime is you need to plan it out A YEAR IN ADVANCE. Problems will always arise, always. Having enough time to come up with a compromise can take months though. Speculating why this decision was made or comparing it to previous year's policies a week before the con won't change anything. But hey, if you helps you sleep at night, go right ahead. I'm sure we can all find other tournaments to flock to during the con (yay street fighter and guitar hero!)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 13, 2008, 11:37:37 AM
*shrug*
I'm not even open to considering attempting any rated M tournies, I just think it's proper to give them responses. (Used to be Tech Support for a company)

Sorry I couldn't plan this sooner, I didn't think about becoming the coordinator until winter 2007.  Lack of communication in the department has left me in the dark up to this point, but I'm making it run as good as possible. 
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Khaistyle on May 13, 2008, 12:17:03 PM
You're doing the best you can under the situation, I appreciate that. Compared to the years where we couldn't even have tournaments, this year is going to turn out pretty good I think.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 13, 2008, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 12, 2008, 10:47:37 PM
You guys keep dreaming up your fanime M rated tournaments if you want, or arguing for them.

You're now beating a dead horse.  Enjoy.

Hey, better to beat to mush, than allowing it to become undead.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 13, 2008, 06:37:00 PM
i'm not going to give my real reply because we'd end up off topic about killing the living dead.  :P
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 13, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
BTW,They respawn in 37 min.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on May 13, 2008, 07:30:36 PM
its nice all of you want to do this, but its really hard, M rated games are 18 and only over to purchase and because of adults, regulations, gore, violence its better to just ignore them in general because your risking getting the people who are running it, as well as the con liable. Ive worked at and with many game stores and many of them you are not allowed to show M rated games during hours of operations, (some can but if too many complaints they can be pulled or fined). Its smarter to just say no like JT is saying and i support that. If you want your own tournaments find a place you can do it and invite people but don't ruin it for everyone cause you think you have to have it.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 13, 2008, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 13, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
BTW,They respawn in 37 min.
IM NOT LISTENING
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 13, 2008, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 13, 2008, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 13, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
BTW,They respawn in 37 min.
IM NOT LISTENING

Go prepare the bunker, Lt will go set up the killbots...
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Why do you always speak in 3rd person?  Are you a girl from Japan? >_>;;
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Jun-Watarase on May 14, 2008, 12:35:04 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Are you a girl from Japan? >_>;;

=|
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:45:54 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 14, 2008, 12:35:04 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Are you a girl from Japan? >_>;;

=|
I think you know the reference I'm making.  No clarification please because I already knew I was picking on 1 little thing and it's not exactly accurate. -_-
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 14, 2008, 02:31:58 AM
Will onii-chan take Mizu-chan to bed please onegai desu?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 02:53:06 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on May 14, 2008, 02:31:58 AM
Will onii-chan take Mizu-chan to bed please onegai desu?
wow... -_-
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 14, 2008, 01:08:07 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Why do you always speak in 3rd person?  Are you a girl from Japan? >_>;;

Lt talks in 3rd person because "I" is too insignificant a word for Lt to refer to Lt's self as.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 14, 2008, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 14, 2008, 01:08:07 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Why do you always speak in 3rd person?  Are you a girl from Japan? >_>;;

Lt talks in 3rd person because "I" is too insignificant a word for Lt to refer to Lt's self as.

And you should be gathering supplies. We need 6 Trip Mines, at least two dozen Frag grenades, and any guns/ammunition you can find, preferably Shotguns and crossbows.
How hurry, we got 1 hour and 32 min before the seconded Zombie wave spawns...
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on May 14, 2008, 01:08:07 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 14, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
Why do you always speak in 3rd person?  Are you a girl from Japan? >_>;;

Lt talks in 3rd person because "I" is too insignificant a word for Lt to refer to Lt's self as.
OK P. Diddy -_-

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 15, 2008, 01:56:30 PM
Any news of supplying Dreamcast converters?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: zemric on May 15, 2008, 03:13:42 PM
none that ive heard of.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 15, 2008, 03:19:52 PM
ditto.  >:(
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Arknight on May 15, 2008, 04:10:32 PM
If you guys want, I can bring my PS2 copy of CvS2 for the tournaments (Sunday 5-7 right?) Course I'm gonna be watching it VERY closely to see that no one steals my disc but if that's fine with you guys, I'm cool with it (No converter here either so I would prefer playing it on the PS2 if possible).
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 16, 2008, 01:17:42 AM
Wow... That really really fucking sucks. I hope my dreamcast stick is back together by then :|
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 16, 2008, 01:22:53 AM
The way things are going, I'm pretty sure only MvC2 is on DC, so that should be all you would need your DC stick for.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 16, 2008, 01:50:29 AM
Oh, okay, I can kinda play Marvel on pad anyways. As long as I have a stick for CvS2.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: narutofan17 on May 20, 2008, 11:53:17 AM
I've been so busy with my cosplay I haven't been able to go to the forums (that and those stupid glomp forums pissed me off). Is it too late to sign up for the Brawl tournament?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 20, 2008, 12:23:36 PM
email asuka245 to pre-register.

on site signups will be posted in the e-gaming room on friday.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 20, 2008, 02:08:00 PM
What system will we be playing SF3S on?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 20, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
at the moment, cvs2 and 3s are on DC.

i'm trying to change it to ps2, but that's not for certain.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: narutofan17 on May 20, 2008, 02:38:35 PM
Sweet thanks.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 20, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 20, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
at the moment, cvs2 and 3s are on DC.

i'm trying to change it to ps2, but that's not for certain.

lol 3S on DC?

NVM then, I'll play if we can get it on PS2.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: kay0ss on May 20, 2008, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: abcbadcat on May 20, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 20, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
at the moment, cvs2 and 3s are on DC.

i'm trying to change it to ps2, but that's not for certain.

lol 3S on DC?

NVM then, I'll play if we can get it on PS2.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 20, 2008, 02:59:09 PM
Or if anyone has a computer, I have MAME and the SF3S.rom

You just need the USB/PS2 adapter and controllers.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 20, 2008, 03:00:23 PM
ya, problematic. :(

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 20, 2008, 09:42:48 PM
Apparently E-gaming head thinks DC version of 3s and CvS2 are okay.

JUST TO LET HIM KNOW HERE...

They're not. DC versions of both 3S and CvS2 are... mediocre at best. CvS2 has a huge leway for frame inputs and the what nots. Making accidental moves, easier roll cancels, easier links etc. all happen. Slight property changes through out the game(though to be honest, I doubt anyone that plays at fanime will notice any of these). The biggest issue is the roll cancel change. The bigger gap makes things retarded and shifts balaces even MORE towards a-groove players to abuse.

3S is a whole shit load different. Property changes all over the place. Juggle properities, hit grab boxes, stun times, frame lengths etc. etc. etc. 3S on DC is a totally different game compared to the arcade/ps2 version. It RAPES Chun players(which I do like) and changes Yun players completely. Timings are totally different on Genei Jin combos so anyone who doesn't play on DC will be missing a lot of their Genei-jin combos. Dudley players have fewer frames for some cancels. I could go on, but you get the point.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: bahamutknightzero on May 20, 2008, 10:18:07 PM
If Capcom vs SNK 2 does happen on PS2, I may be interested in entering the tourney for it (I think I may be making a death wish here against the better/skilled players)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 21, 2008, 01:57:22 AM
Pyron, I thought all that stuff was pretty false, didn't Buktooth run through a shit loads of tests or something?

Anyways, 3s on DC is a joke. Also, who the hell still uses DC's other than for Marvel. It's getting close. I hope there's a stable answer by Thursday, because I don't have a converter or a stick.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tetsuo9999 on May 21, 2008, 01:15:28 PM
Quote from: Mizuki on May 21, 2008, 01:57:22 AM
Pyron, I thought all that stuff was pretty false, didn't Buktooth run through a shit loads of tests or something?

Anyways, 3s on DC is a joke. Also, who the hell still uses DC's other than for Marvel. It's getting close. I hope there's a stable answer by Thursday, because I don't have a converter or a stick.

I'll be bringing Hokuto no Ken and my PS2/PC adapter if anyone wants to use it.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I talked to my roommate and it turns out we have CvS2 and street fighter anniversary edition for ps2.
if the 3s on anniversary is the same as the game by itself, then we can run these games on ps2. :)  and for the sticks, we'll see what we have.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 21, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I talked to my roommate and it turns out we have CvS2 and street fighter anniversary edition for ps2.
if the 3s on anniversary is the same as the game by itself, then we can run these games on ps2. :)  and for the sticks, we'll see what we have.

Anniversary 3S is really good.

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 21, 2008, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 21, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I talked to my roommate and it turns out we have CvS2 and street fighter anniversary edition for ps2.
if the 3s on anniversary is the same as the game by itself, then we can run these games on ps2. :)  and for the sticks, we'll see what we have.

Anniversary 3S is really good.



YES!

I am still not pro or anything but I'd like to give the tourney a go.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: bahamutknightzero on May 21, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
I'm sure it has been asked before but what are the CvS2 match ups set up?

3-on-3
or
Ratio Match?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 21, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I talked to my roommate and it turns out we have CvS2 and street fighter anniversary edition for ps2.
if the 3s on anniversary is the same as the game by itself, then we can run these games on ps2. :)  and for the sticks, we'll see what we have.

Anniversary 3S is really good.


all we need is sticks then. =D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 21, 2008, 11:02:53 PM
Quote from: bahamutknightzero on May 21, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
I'm sure it has been asked before but what are the CvS2 match ups set up?

3-on-3
or
Ratio Match?

... Are you serious? No one plays 3-on-3. Tournaments are ran as close to arcade style as possible.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 11:08:30 PM
wtf he talking bout? ???
not a cvs player.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: bahamutknightzero on May 21, 2008, 11:09:34 PM
Jeez, didn't need the total 3rd degree there. I was just asking an honest question about something I was completely unsure of.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: bahamutknightzero on May 21, 2008, 11:12:52 PM
JT: 3-on-3 Mode is where the players pick three characters, without the restrictions of selecting ratios for the characters

Ratio Mode is what the arcade game is like where you have to pick a ratio for your characters (where it allows the players to have either 1, 2, or 3 characters, depending on how you have your ratios set up).
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
then it's ratio.
you have up to a value of 4 split among between 1-3 chars right? that's the norm and that's what we're doing.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Mizuki on May 21, 2008, 11:18:39 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
then it's ratio.
you have up to a value of 4 split among between 1-3 chars right? that's the norm and that's what we're doing.

Yeah, that's the norm. You're in norcal and don't know CvS2 rules? (just kidding)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: kay0ss on May 22, 2008, 12:40:06 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I talked to my roommate and it turns out we have CvS2 and street fighter anniversary edition for ps2.
if the 3s on anniversary is the same as the game by itself, then we can run these games on ps2. :)  and for the sticks, we'll see what we have.

Sweet. Entering 3s then :>
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 22, 2008, 03:23:52 AM
Quote from: kay0ss on May 22, 2008, 12:40:06 AM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I talked to my roommate and it turns out we have CvS2 and street fighter anniversary edition for ps2.
if the 3s on anniversary is the same as the game by itself, then we can run these games on ps2. :)  and for the sticks, we'll see what we have.

Sweet. Entering 3s then :>

Same here, see ya there!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 22, 2008, 09:16:56 AM
I talked to asuka245, I'll be bringing a copy or two of SF anniversary myself.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 22, 2008, 09:42:19 AM
you convinced him it'll be ps2?
he doesn't listen to me at all -_-
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 22, 2008, 05:03:58 PM
i have a confirmed 2nd copy of ps2 cvs2. so we're good to go on that as well.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tetsuo9999 on May 22, 2008, 05:19:20 PM
I'll have my Tekken 5 stick around if anyone needs to use it for a while.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: bahamutknightzero on May 22, 2008, 06:37:56 PM
Yay for PS2 CvS2 and (hopefull) SF3 3rd Strike (might be interested in this tourney too)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 22, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
I'd let people use my stick... but no. To be honest, I don't trust Fanime people with a 165$ custom JP stick from a shop that doesn't import them. Though if you wanna use it JT you can.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 22, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
meh, i don't wanna kill anyone in tekken. :P  i'm just going to challenge the winner to a friendly set after. :)
thanks for the offer though.
problem with tekken is we have no pelican converters.  VERY problematic.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 22, 2008, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 22, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
meh, i don't wanna kill anyone in tekken. :P  i'm just going to challenge the winner to a friendly set after. :)
thanks for the offer though.
problem with tekken is we have no pelican converters.  VERY problematic.

Play on pad, you only need to hold back and hit d/f2 anyways.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 22, 2008, 09:19:27 PM
that's true. jack works that way as well.

edit::
bronson is lending me 1 pelican converter, so 1 ps3 will be able to do tekken stick matches.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TK Wolf on May 23, 2008, 01:19:21 AM
I've played GG^C, but not GG^C+. I'm guessing it's also for PS2 and not an arcade cabinet?

If anyone knows any differences between the US version of GG^C and GG^C+, I'd really appreciate hearing it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 23, 2008, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: TK Wolf on May 23, 2008, 01:19:21 AM
I've played GG^C, but not GG^C+. I'm guessing it's also for PS2 and not an arcade cabinet?

If anyone knows any differences between the US version of GG^C and GG^C+, I'd really appreciate hearing it. Thanks!

There aren't any. GG^C for the US is basically the JP version of GG^C+. It had bug fixes and a few property resets.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Aznmnky on May 23, 2008, 02:08:48 PM
I'd like to join all the Capcom fighters, but which day during the weekend are you gonna have the tournament?

Let me know.

oh, CvS2 general tourney rule:

Ratio match only
Roll cancels allowed
No game freezing glitches
No god/evil characters (they're not in arcade anyways)

Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 26, 2008, 11:36:21 PM
I totally forgot about the soul cal tourney

Well... I remembered it but I was hanging out with friends so I couldn't ditch them.

Eitherway, fun tourneys, too bad so many people didn't show up.


Chinoy looked stressed almost all the time.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 12:23:42 AM
He was.  I promise him he won't have to deal with it next year.  Yeah a lot of people didn't show up, it was kind of a shame.  We had a little miscommunication with the sponsor, but now that we know what's going on and what needs to be done, things will be streamlined.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 27, 2008, 12:28:41 AM
You guys seemed like you were handling it pretty well though.

There were so many different games and systems, it was pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 12:47:07 AM
Well, I really want people to know what's going on before there's a problem.  The night before the Melty Blood tournament, I didn't even know if we had a copy of Melty Blood, for what system, and what version.  Same went for Tekken V, I didn't know JT brought it on his PS3 until the tournament started.  Things like this are not going to work next year.  I'm bringing experienced tournament staffers, setting up a table with paper tournament signups and running PCs with tournament standings posted.  I'll also be working on getting the PV system worked up for someone to use for tournaments and have enough consoles available.  I think also if we're holding more serious tournaments, there should be judges for every two stations, and the section used for tournament gaming should be clearly marked and each station numbered.  I've been to and helped organize a few very well-run tournaments, and these seem to be the keys that we did not have this year.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Reikon on May 27, 2008, 01:14:28 AM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 12:47:07 AM
Well, I really want people to know what's going on before there's a problem.  The night before the Melty Blood tournament, I didn't even know if we had a copy of Melty Blood, for what system, and what version. 

There were several major problems with the Melty Blood tournament:

1. It was at 8 am.
2. It was listed as Ver. B on the website when we didn't have PC gaming set up (and people probably wouldn't have accepted the PS2 version that I desparately tried to get)
3. Even if we borrowed a PC, we didn't have adapters for people to use controllers
4. It was at 8 am.

We should probably set up the tournmants to start later in the day. Games that are M-rated can go in a later time slot, like 10 PM since we did allow people to play Halo 3 after 9 PM.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 27, 2008, 01:27:26 AM
BTW, at the 3s tournament, when my girlfriend ran my stick down to me, I had a PS2 -> USB converter. I put the converter behind the TV we were using.

http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/6492

The grey one... after the tournament when I went to get it, it wasn't there. Not sure if someone stole it, or if someone from staff took it thinking it was the "cons". But if someone has it, I'd like it back if possible please.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 01:38:32 AM
I don't remember seeing one.  If it's mixed in, it WILL turn up, because I'm starting a round of e-mails to our eGaming staff to double-check for missing equipment.  I'm personally missing two GC controllers, as is one of the other staffers, a copy of Gradius II, someone's missing GGXX:AC, and a few other things.  I also have a Dreamcast that got left behind to the very end.  Stuff got stolen from us as well; if your adapter turns up, I will let you know.  Next year we will have waivers for people bringing in their own stuff, as well as for staff.  I'd recommend if you bring your own consoles, controllers or accessories you label them.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 27, 2008, 01:40:47 AM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 01:38:32 AM
I don't remember seeing one.  If it's mixed in, it WILL turn up, because I'm starting a round of e-mails to our eGaming staff to double-check for missing equipment.  I'm personally missing two GC controllers, as is one of the other staffers, a copy of Gradius II, someone's missing GGXX:AC, and a few other things.  I also have a Dreamcast that got left behind to the very end.  Stuff got stolen from us as well; if your adapter turns up, I will let you know.  Next year we will have waivers for people bringing in their own stuff, as well as for staff.  I'd recommend if you bring your own consoles, controllers or accessories you label them.

Yeah, stuff always gets stolen. It's not that big of a deal really, but just thought I'd mention it just in case it does pop up or something. Just a pain in the ass to order a new one, especially since I can't play GGPO for a while.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Chun on May 27, 2008, 01:49:19 AM
Melty Blood Tourney was made of fail, need later timeslot.

~Chun
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 01:59:59 AM
You were the one then that commented the night before nobody will show up because it's at 8:00AM?  Yeah, that kinda sucks :/
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Chun on May 27, 2008, 02:03:53 AM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 01:59:59 AM
You were the one then that commented the night before nobody will show up because it's at 8:00AM?  Yeah, that kinda sucks :/

I wasn't the one saying it (I learned and heard it was on Saturday in the afternoon, later finding out it was Sunday at 8), but most people agreed regardless because the E-gaming scene goes so late into the night.

~Chun
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 27, 2008, 12:30:14 PM
You can get a two ps2 controller port USB adapter over at Frys for ~$20.

I got one for MUGEN, Mame, IIDX, and emulators and it works great!
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Spiritsnare on May 27, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
If you're specifically looking for another Elecom adapter, Mikey, they sell a couple at User's Side, also (I think?) $18.

From what I hear, it works flawlessly.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: PyronIkari on May 27, 2008, 01:23:22 PM
Quote from: Spiritsnare on May 27, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
If you're specifically looking for another Elecom adapter, Mikey, they sell a couple at User's Side, also (I think?) $18.

From what I hear, it works flawlessly.

Yeah I know, I'm probably going to order another one in the next few days. Just didn't want to unless I had to.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Tomibiki on May 27, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Well I'd personally like to thank JT for running the tourneys as well as he did. Even though he wasn't directly involved with AC ( I can't remember the name of the girl who was x.x ) it was probably the best run tourney I was in. Only one minor issue right towards the end that got resolved quickly. Everyone treated my stuff with respect which was also cool, cause I've had jerks throw my stuff around in frustration before. Very positive experience.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 27, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
Thanks everyone for entering.
I was indeed stressed, but I was more just throwing sarcasm around than actually pissed off.
With the tournament maker program, next year will be run a lot smoother.  Hopefully I'll have all of the equipment I ask for so that these tournaments can be done better.  I'd like to thank everyone for understanding some of the equipment/ station shorts that I had and to those to all of the entrants that understand how it is running between 2 tournaments.

I'll try to train more staffers, like david, next year so that we'll have everyone aware of what to do.  The roadbumps with japanvideogames were unfortunate but I learned from all of this and hopefully they will help us out next year if they return.  And yes melty blood was too damn early in the morning.  8am tournament? god damn.  i doubt i'd get up for tekken at 8am, let alone melty blood.

The short on arcade sticks was a bit irritating, so we'll be working on that.

And for those who were wondering, crystal was running AC for me.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 27, 2008, 07:36:14 PM
Chinoy: I forgot what day it was but didn't you have a 15 win streak on T5:DR AC one night?

Also, Sorry I didn't show up for the SC3 tourney.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 27, 2008, 08:05:05 PM
i did that like twice? the first time finished at 33, the 2nd time ended around 12.
you prolly saw me saturday night when i did it after finishing the tournies.

no problem on 3s. i had a lot of other flakes, so it wasn't anything unusual by that point. :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 27, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 27, 2008, 08:05:05 PM
i did that like twice? the first time finished at 33, the 2nd time ended around 12.
you prolly saw me saturday night when i did it after finishing the tournies.

no problem on 3s. i had a lot of other flakes, so it wasn't anything unusual by that point. :)

Oh I was there for Brawl and 3S but not SC3 though.

Also, was 3S double elim? I lost my first brawl match then a friend called me and I ran from stage zero for my second match.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 27, 2008, 09:02:21 PM
all tournaments as long as i run these tournies will be double elim.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 28, 2008, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 27, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
The roadbumps with japanvideogames were unfortunate but I learned from all of this and hopefully they will help us out next year if they return.
Chriss from Japan Video Games already told me they'd be back next year to work things out, and I'm going to be keeping in contact with them until then.  I may actually be going to AX this year since everyone wants me to go, so I can iron out a more solid sponsorship from then next year hopefully.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Reikon on May 29, 2008, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: Tomibiki on May 27, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Well I'd personally like to thank JT for running the tourneys as well as he did. Even though he wasn't directly involved with AC ( I can't remember the name of the girl who was x.x ) it was probably the best run tourney I was in.

For those interested in who ran what tournament, I believe JT ran all but GG:AC, Beatmania, and Naruto 4.

Christal (I belive that's the right spelling since that's on the staff list, but David and JT spelled it differently) ran GG:AC

David ran the Beatmania one

I ran the Naruto 4 one (with lots of help since I was a newb at it)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on May 29, 2008, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
Chriss from Japan Video Games already told me they'd be back next year to work things out, and I'm going to be keeping in contact with them until then.  I may actually be going to AX this year since everyone wants me to go, so I can iron out a more solid sponsorship from then next year hopefully.

*note* Just one S in chris  :P
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 30, 2008, 12:56:31 AM
Quote from: Japanvideogames on May 29, 2008, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
Chriss from Japan Video Games already told me they'd be back next year to work things out, and I'm going to be keeping in contact with them until then.  I may actually be going to AX this year since everyone wants me to go, so I can iron out a more solid sponsorship from then next year hopefully.

*note* Just one S in chris  :P
I dunno if you wanna sponsor someone who can't even spell your name.  Pretty disrespectful in my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 30, 2008, 07:34:46 AM
uh-oh  ::)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 30, 2008, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 30, 2008, 07:34:46 AM
uh-oh  ::)
:D
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: Japanvideogames on May 30, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 30, 2008, 12:56:31 AM
Quote from: Japanvideogames on May 29, 2008, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: AmazingKenchan on May 27, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
Chriss from Japan Video Games already told me they'd be back next year to work things out, and I'm going to be keeping in contact with them until then.  I may actually be going to AX this year since everyone wants me to go, so I can iron out a more solid sponsorship from then next year hopefully.

*note* Just one S in chris  :P
I dunno if you wanna sponsor someone who can't even spell your name.  Pretty disrespectful in my opinion. :)

meh *whacks AmazingKenchan with a frozen Trout, and gives JT a Taco* all is better now
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 30, 2008, 09:32:16 PM
And thus, peace was returned to the universe.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 30, 2008, 10:12:34 PM
Not that this has anything to do with much, but, DoA4 had a TV and console up for it at fanime (or at least on friday).

The thing is, Its M rated, and as noted in this thread, fanime was not going to have M rated games.

So I wonder, was it fanime who had DoA4 up or did someone bring a 360 there and set up, because I feel lied to.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 30, 2008, 11:57:59 PM
Richard decided to cheat the system.  Next year it'll be confirmed, but yeah we had Halo set up for a while too.  He basically said whatever I don't care.  I promise this and PC gaming will happen next year.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on May 31, 2008, 12:44:35 AM
can we actually follow policies this year?  letting all of the console copies of arcade games and CoD4 slide makes us look hypocritical.  That's a lot of face e-gaming loses if we don't start enforcing shit.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: AmazingKenchan on May 31, 2008, 01:07:54 AM
I don't see the problem really with CS versions of the stuff they bring for AC, at the very least tournaments are fine.  I think we just need to iron out the policy for next year.  As for mature gaming, we will have a solid policy next year that includes 17+ gaming.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: abcbadcat on May 31, 2008, 02:58:24 AM
Could we do 17+ gaming past a certain time or a table off in the corner for M rated games?
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on May 31, 2008, 03:41:22 PM
Yeah I saw the Halo up too.

Damn split-screen, non-MLG, "Lets play 4Player FFA on Headlong", have sound down to "0", retarded games. Seriously, half of the players there would be eaten alive online, or be playing Infection and becoming one with the n00b fold...

Anyways...The "setting up a M rated table" idea sounds like the way to go. It will be easier to monitor the games. And lets face it, theres more than enough room.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: narutofan17 on March 25, 2009, 02:24:59 PM
What's up with a Street Fighter 4 tournament? I'll be participating in the Smash Bros. Brawl Tournament.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 25, 2009, 04:02:42 PM
holy thread revival.

anyways, the discussions about e-gaming tournies have been relocated to live programming.

but to answer your question before you hop over there, there will be a sf4 tournament.  so don't worry about that.  :)
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 25, 2009, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on March 25, 2009, 04:02:42 PM
holy thread revival.

anyways, the discussions about e-gaming tournies have been relocated to live programming.

but to answer your question before you hop over there, there will be a sf4 tournament.  so don't worry about that.  :)
Indeed.
Looking at my old posts shows myself how differently I type now-a-days...
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: LordChiakiTani on March 29, 2009, 02:44:52 AM
If only there have initial D Tournament and Street Fighter 4 tournament or even Dead or Alive 4 tournament I would join them all! but for now I would like to participate at Marvel Vs Capcom 2 tournament
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: To0PiD RaMeN on March 29, 2009, 03:53:37 AM
Please note that the tournament list may change.
Title: Re: Official E-Gaming Tournament list/ rules
Post by: JTchinoy on March 29, 2009, 04:49:39 PM
I'm locking this thread since it's the 2008 thread.

We have an E-gaming thread in live programming section, please post there.  :)

Lord Chiaki, check our thread in Live programming, we're having a SF4 tournament.  ;)