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Title: Octuplets Story
Post by: codex biblio on February 09, 2009, 11:35:06 PM
Latest octuplets drama (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/ap_on_re_us/octuplets)

Does anyone besides me find this story more and more disturbing the more we hear from/about the mother? I don't know whether to believe the mother is delusional, irrational, or just irresponsible. Too upset to post more right now.

Ok, more rational post. Let's discuss medical ethics in this thread since the latest information is about her fertility doctor. I'm sure more information will come out in the future.

How much responsibility does a doctor carry in cases like this? Should the doctor be disciplined in any way by the medical board for their part in this? Or are they just doing their job?

Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: PyronIkari on February 10, 2009, 12:03:35 AM
Why is this in serious business?
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: G.I.R on February 10, 2009, 12:12:43 AM
I'd like to know how an unemployed mother of six children already that lives with her parents can afford to go to a Beverly Hills fertility clinic.
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: Steve.Young on February 10, 2009, 12:18:33 AM
I'd like to know what impulsive need compelled her to have 14 children?
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: otakuapprentice on February 10, 2009, 12:21:06 AM
Quote from: Steve.Young on February 10, 2009, 12:18:33 AM
I'd like to know what impulsive need compelled her to have 14 children?
IIRC, she apparently only wanted to have 'one more kid'......looks like that backfired horribly.

Quote from: PyronIkari on February 10, 2009, 12:03:35 AM
Why is this in serious business?
Hell if I know.
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: G.I.R on February 10, 2009, 12:28:33 AM
Quote from: Steve.Young on February 10, 2009, 12:18:33 AM
I'd like to know what impulsive need compelled her to have 14 children?
Or to have any when she's unemployed.

Quote from:  otakuapprentice Quote from:PyronIkari on Today at 11:03:35 PM

Why is this in serious business?
Hell if I know.
Medical Ethics isn't serious?
Title: Octuplets Story
Post by: codex biblio on February 10, 2009, 12:43:57 AM
Mea culpa. Should've calmed down before I made original post. I modified it so that if anyone wants to discuss doctor responsibilities and medical ethics, we can.

If anyone wants to throw in your thoughts on the mother, feel free, but I'll try not to comment on her because then I'd go off on a rant and have to start another thread that's more appropriate in byo/b/.
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: Mizuki on February 10, 2009, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 10, 2009, 12:03:35 AM
Why is this in serious business?

Op fixed the thread to be a little bit more appropriate for the forum. Also if you have a problem with it, PM/Report, I don't have eyes all of the boards.
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: Sunara Ishi on February 11, 2009, 02:17:57 AM
What pisses me off is that she wants to care for them all with food stamps and student loans.
She's so irresponsible. D:

I do think her and the doctor both need to be held accountable. She shouldn't be having children just because she's lonely.
Title: Re: Octuplets Story
Post by: codex biblio on February 11, 2009, 08:55:24 PM
I understand the fertility clinic is still under investigation, so we don't know for sure what happened with the doctor yet.

Doctors often do things at their discretion. But during the evaluation process, they often give advice and/or suggestions to the patient. I don't know if this applies to fertility clinics. (I'm assuming so)  And can't a doctor refuse to assist the patient in something like this?

In reading the latest update, the doctor can be kicked off of SART or American Society for Reproductive Medicine, but that doesn't take away his license. "The state medical board cannot close the clinic if it is found at fault, but it can censure the doctor, putting the violation on his record." Censure, that's it? These things seem like slaps on the wrist for a professional who didn't seem to have used any judgement in the matter.