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Title: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: jacktchance on January 14, 2011, 01:59:01 AM
http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html

Westboro Baptist is going to be at Gunderson High school to protest a play on March 4, 2011.

I wonder how they pay for all these travel expenses.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Halrenna on January 14, 2011, 03:09:20 PM
Ugh, I don't even want to click on a URL with a name like that. :/
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: deonchan on January 14, 2011, 04:49:12 PM
They are ramping up their... "efforts" But did anyone see how Tuscon, AZ counter protested against them? Check the article

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Eliteslayer on January 14, 2011, 06:56:19 PM
I tried reading their excuse for protesting, but I couldn't get through it right after dinner. It's simply sickening. I noticed they also have a huge long letter about how Jews are doomed and God hates Israel, and as a Jew I am simply offended beyond words. Every time I hear about these bigoted, arrogant a-holes I lose more faith in the world, but I regain a little of it when I hear about the peaceful counter-protests or efforts made to keep the WBC away.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: CosplayDevotee on January 19, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Honestly there are no words to describe how sickening and just...ugh I AGAIN there are NO WORDS! SHE WAS 9! Freaking A! I used to think these a-holes were just stupid, but now they make stupid seem intelligent if that is even possible. Leave the child out of this! They chose to picket during the young girls funeral cuz they want their 15 seconds of fame screaming random bull that has NOTHING to do with this child's death. So God wants to kill children? Children too young to even do anything worth labeling as a sin? *throws her hands up in the air* I won't even laugh at these people if they show up at Fanime again. They don't even deserve a glance. I am so sickened.  >:(
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Sunara Ishi on January 19, 2011, 09:11:06 PM
D: D: D: Not cool. I live in that area... O:

I really hope they don't show up.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on January 20, 2011, 02:12:29 PM
Personally they are my favorite cult ever.
Because simply trying to figure out there ignorant and hippocratic beliefs makes for a great endeavor. And they are just fun to observe.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on January 20, 2011, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: Affliction on January 19, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Honestly there are no words to describe how sickening and just...ugh I AGAIN there are NO WORDS! SHE WAS 9! Freaking A! I used to think these a-holes were just stupid, but now they make stupid seem intelligent if that is even possible. Leave the child out of this! They chose to picket during the young girls funeral cuz they want their 15 seconds of fame screaming random bull that has NOTHING to do with this child's death. So God wants to kill children? Children too young to even do anything worth labeling as a sin? *throws her hands up in the air* I won't even laugh at these people if they show up at Fanime again. They don't even deserve a glance. I am so sickened.  >:(

I found the best part about their website is that they quote the 7th Commandment 'Thou Shall not Kill', right above there article on the shooting.
If your going to be haters at least don't contradict yourself on what you hate. =P
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: CosplayDevotee on January 20, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on January 20, 2011, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: Affliction on January 19, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Honestly there are no words to describe how sickening and just...ugh I AGAIN there are NO WORDS! SHE WAS 9! Freaking A! I used to think these a-holes were just stupid, but now they make stupid seem intelligent if that is even possible. Leave the child out of this! They chose to picket during the young girls funeral cuz they want their 15 seconds of fame screaming random bull that has NOTHING to do with this child's death. So God wants to kill children? Children too young to even do anything worth labeling as a sin? *throws her hands up in the air* I won't even laugh at these people if they show up at Fanime again. They don't even deserve a glance. I am so sickened.  >:(

I found the best part about their website is that they quote the 7th Commandment 'Thou Shall not Kill', right above there article on the shooting.
If your going to be haters at least don't contradict yourself on what you hate. =P

I would agree, but I have heard people talking to them and they approach them peacefully, but then the cult people just turn around and pretty much force the conversation into an arguement. A heated one at that.  ::) They prep eachother, they have heard every arguement. My father unfortunately did phone work at one of these people's homes once and they will actually fight you down to the "uh UH!" and "YAH uh!" level lol. I will admit though, I did rofl my ass off when I saw their car that says "Turn or burn."
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Armored-Heart on January 21, 2011, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: Affliction on January 20, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
I will admit though, I did rofl my ass off when I saw their car that says "Turn or burn."

I remember one day at Fanime I read one of their signs that said "Trust Jesus" and then walking back to my hotel a little while later (or maybe the next day, nor sure when exactly) they had a sign that said "Fear God". Uhhh... what? xD


I swear, they have to be the biggest hypocrites the world has ever seen. :c Protesting an innocent child's funeral? What could a CHILD have possibly done wrong? Why did she deserve to die? "God sent the shooter" yet Commandment 7 is "Thou shalt not kill"? They make me sick.

I honestly wish we could somehow ban them from the convention center area. Yeah, yeah, "freedom of speech" and all that crap. But isn't the law supposed to protect "peaceful assembly" as opposed to a bunch of a-holes harassing innocent people? =/ I mean, last year they had that stupid megaphone and were shouting bullcrap at people and telling us we're all going to hell. How is that peaceful assembly?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Eliteslayer on January 21, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
Well, the Westboro Baptist Church and the protestors at Fanime are not the same group. The WBC makes the protestors we've got look like well-balanced individuals expressing a slight discontent at the weather.

The guys we put up with are the typical "God is vengeful if you don't love/fear him" crowd, the WBC are the "God hates you, your mother, your father, your grandparents, your dog, everyone you ever knew or loved, and if something bad happens to you it's God's will because he hates everyone except us, and by the way, I hate you too, even though we've never met and I know nothing about you except for the fact that you're not us" crowd.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: CosplayDevotee on January 21, 2011, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: Eliteslayer on January 21, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
Well, the Westboro Baptist Church and the protestors at Fanime are not the same group. The WBC makes the protestors we've got look like well-balanced individuals expressing a slight discontent at the weather.

The guys we put up with are the typical "God is vengeful if you don't love/fear him" crowd, the WBC are the "God hates you, your mother, your father, your grandparents, your dog, everyone you ever knew or loved, and if something bad happens to you it's God's will because he hates everyone except us, and by the way, I hate you too, even though we've never met and I know nothing about you except for the fact that you're not us" crowd.
Nice summarization. ROFLMAO  :D
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Armored-Heart on January 21, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Eliteslayer on January 21, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
Well, the Westboro Baptist Church and the protestors at Fanime are not the same group. The WBC makes the protestors we've got look like well-balanced individuals expressing a slight discontent at the weather.

The guys we put up with are the typical "God is vengeful if you don't love/fear him" crowd, the WBC are the "God hates you, your mother, your father, your grandparents, your dog, everyone you ever knew or loved, and if something bad happens to you it's God's will because he hates everyone except us, and by the way, I hate you too, even though we've never met and I know nothing about you except for the fact that you're not us" crowd.

Ahh, my bad. xD Guess I should've read things a bit more closely. c:

Well either way, both groups of protesters aren't really following peaceful assembly and I don't get why they're allowed to simply get away with what they do half the time (at least something was done in this case).

I also don't get why they choose their methods. o-o; I mean granted, with our protesters, Fanime's a large event and they get plenty of attention. But it's never really good attention. They simply make idiots out of themselves and nobody takes them seriously. :B And with the other WBC, why would they protest the funeral of a nine year old innocent child? They're making themselves look like the spawns of Satan, not "preachers of the word of God" or whatever. They don't exactly seem right in the head. >>;
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: G.I.R on January 21, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
When they showed up (all five of them) at San Diego Comic con last year, they were actually pretty quiet.  They still had their hate speech signs  (each protester was holding four of them).
They were quite outnumbered by attendees.  They stayed about half an hour and finally left.

also :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_fAYl4Th4  (michael Moore Vs. the Westboro Babtist Church)
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: LastExile on January 21, 2011, 10:15:39 PM
All I can say about the Westboro Baptist Church, is:
Haters gon' hate.

In all seriousness, though, they do piss me off. More than the protestors at Fanime, though I think that's probably just because I'm so used to joking about them. It's a pity these types of people live in the world.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: EJAY420 on January 21, 2011, 10:26:42 PM
I got a pitchfork and devil horns.....im taking them to fanime.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Sunara Ishi on January 25, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: Armored-Heart on January 21, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
And with the other WBC, why would they protest the funeral of a nine year old innocent child? They're making themselves look like the spawns of Satan, not "preachers of the word of God" or whatever. They don't exactly seem right in the head. >>;
I keep thinking they were dropped on the head as a child. (and I agree that they seem more like Worshipers of Satan/Anti-Christ, etc. I almost wouldn't be surprised if they sacrificed small, cute, fluffy animals to "GOD" and kicked puppies & kittens for fun.  -.-;)

I really think that "God", and other deities for that matter, would be ashamed of their actions (and all those violent fanatics of other religions too.) Using one's religion as a shield for bad behavior is shameful and unethical.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Armored-Heart on January 25, 2011, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: Sunara Ishi on January 25, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: Armored-Heart on January 21, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
And with the other WBC, why would they protest the funeral of a nine year old innocent child? They're making themselves look like the spawns of Satan, not "preachers of the word of God" or whatever. They don't exactly seem right in the head. >>;
I keep thinking they were dropped on the head as a child. (and I agree that they seem more like Worshipers of Satan/Anti-Christ, etc. I almost wouldn't be surprised if they sacrificed small, cute, fluffy animals to "GOD" and kicked puppies & kittens for fun.  -.-;)

I really think that "God", and other deities for that matter, would be ashamed of their actions (and all those violent fanatics of other religions too.) Using one's religion as a shield for bad behavior is shameful and unethical.

Agreed.

I'm not particularly religious; after my mother and her side of the family attempted shoving religion down my throat and attempted to keep me from my hobbies for years, I've wanted practically nothing to do with it. I just like to think that God loves everyone and if you're a good person, you'll be rewarded eventually, be it in the afterlife or what have you. It's nice to believe in something and all that; but don't use it as an excuse to put down others. =/
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: otakuya on January 25, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
To be brutally honest, if you just stay inside the convention center, you probably won't notice them and won't bother you.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: L0Lpants on January 25, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
This is just a theory but I wouldn't be surprised if it was pretty close to the truth. I bet the WBC is just doing this for the attention & the money. The money part being that when they protest at a event, they'd become so annoying with their protesting of "God hates fags" crap that whoever is in charge of said event would pay them off to go away. How else do they pay for their travel expenses, they all pitch in? Don't think so. So basically, they're just being annoying & offensive to people just for the dough.

I heard from somewhere that there was that one case where that actually happened, a bribe for them to piss off. Not 100% on that story because i'm not sure I heard right. Now unfortunately the 1st amendment protects their right to free speech & freedom of religion, but that oughta change to "...until it really gets irritating then you have the right to pop a can of whoop-ass on the smeg-heads", so can't do anything about that. then the alternative would be just not to pay attention to them.

Besides, the good scenery of Fanime ought to overshadow their negativity anyway...
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Armored-Heart on January 26, 2011, 06:14:41 PM
Quote from: Otakuya on January 25, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
To be brutally honest, if you just stay inside the convention center, you probably won't notice them and won't bother you.

Kinda hard to do for those of us staying in hotels across the street. lol
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: EJAY420 on January 26, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
shall we counter them with some devil horns?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Armored-Heart on January 26, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
Quote from: EJAY420 on January 26, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
shall we counter them with some devil horns?

Actually I think the preferred method of retaliation is sending out the Jesus cosplayer like we do every year. :B
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: CosplayDevotee on January 26, 2011, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: EJAY420 on January 26, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
shall we counter them with some devil horns?
*sigh* If only, but like all the other forums on the Fanime Protestors, its pointless and just fuels their fire. I believe the best medicine for them to to completely ignore them.  ;D
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: EJAY420 on January 26, 2011, 11:03:47 PM
few years ago I saw this one devil cosplayer ( it looked really good)....could of been Jin Kazuya from Tekken.....he was getting them all stirred up!!! Freaking protesters.......they themselves are a show.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Runewitt on January 27, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
Quote from: EJAY420 on January 26, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
shall we counter them with some devil horns?
that was my idea last year, EJ. also red face paint.

Is it possible to set up a roped-off "Designated Protest Area" away from the area in front of the fountains?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Neko Wafer on January 27, 2011, 03:08:02 PM
The WBC makes its money the old-fashioned way: by suing the crap outta people. They want to inflame people enough to incite attacks on themselves, so they can go to court and sue the attacker and receive $$$ compensation. (Phelps himself is a lawyer.)

Seriously. They're a bunch of fame-whores.

Best defense? IGNORE THEM. When you read articles about what they've done, you'll notice that the more people ignore them/block them from the protest site, the shorter their protests are. One radio station even offered the WBC air time to share their views on the world if they cancelled their protest. No dice. The WBC never responded to the station's invite, because that would mean skipping the planned protest and missing out on potential money-making opportunities.

If you must counter-protest, do so peacefully. WBC has no ammunition against peaceful, loving protesters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Peace out, all y'all. :D
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Sunara Ishi on January 27, 2011, 03:40:45 PM
@Neko Wafer & Captain LOLPants:
If it is about the money, I don't understand why they'd pick Gunderson High of all places. That school has no money... its a public school for crying out loud. -.-; Nor is it a rich kids school.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: darkknightcecil on January 27, 2011, 07:02:50 PM
you do know the wbc are just conmen
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: MelonSmasher on February 13, 2011, 06:25:14 PM
I saw those people last year. I think....
The people who had those signs up with the Jesus cosplayer?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: G.I.R on February 13, 2011, 06:30:45 PM
Quote from: Sunara Ishi on January 27, 2011, 03:40:45 PM
@Neko Wafer & Captain LOLPants:
If it is about the money, I don't understand why they'd pick Gunderson High of all places. That school has no money... its a public school for crying out loud. -.-; Nor is it a rich kids school.
They'd probably sue the school district.  Just another way to get money.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Cosplay Circus on February 15, 2011, 05:15:45 PM
They tried to picket Hillsdale High School for doing the same play, a lot of the GSA clubs in the district skipped school and went to counter protest them but they never showed up. Jerks didn't think that many people would show up, they probably heard ahead of time that a lot of people were planning on showing up for it.

As for Fanime, I find the protests extremely entertaining to watch from afar. My only request is that Fanime file a noise complaint to authorities about their megaphones, Fanime expands to the fountain area where activities such as the group shots are done so they are disrupting the event. But as long as someone shoves a cork in that megaphone or their megaphones just happen to spontaneously combust, I'm fine with letting them stand there and making fools of themselves. Plus, without them I couldn't have obtained the most epic pictures ever.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/Wisedomdragon/Fanime%202010/IMG_0831.jpg
The rover and their warning sign in the back are priceless.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/Wisedomdragon/Fanime%202010/IMG_0837-1-1.jpg
No parking sign guy, Fanime Jesus, Don't Feed the Trolls guy, and recycled paper man... absolutely amazing  :D
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: luffy77 on February 26, 2011, 02:21:21 AM
Quote from: Sunara Ishi on January 25, 2011, 02:04:01 PM

I really think that "God", and other deities for that matter, would be ashamed of their actions (and all those violent fanatics of other religions too.) Using one's religion as a shield for bad behavior is shameful and unethical.

Hearing that made me think of the first episode of family guy when they were in church and the priest was telling that story and God was sitting with the people and he goes "Oh God I hated it when he tells this one" lol. 
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Glitch on February 26, 2011, 02:18:19 PM
I wonder if our protesting friends at fanime would run if you told them they are a sad clone of the westboro church and that they are just waiting to sue over someone throwing a punch.
Probably not, but that would be cool.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on April 06, 2011, 02:37:32 AM
Quote from: Glitch on February 26, 2011, 02:18:19 PM
I wonder if our protesting friends at Fanime would run if you told them they are a sad clone of the Westboro church.

Well you know what they say, imitation is the highest form of flattery.

My reaction to any generic group of churchtards protesting is to yell "GO BACK TO TOPEKA KANSAS" regardless of where they're actually from, because it's funny to associate them with another cult of churchtards that even THEY probably do not like and think is "extreme." Even the KKK doesn't like or want to be compared to Westboro, so they're kinda like the Godwin's Law of churchtardism.

Also, I'm a little disappointed by the Westies, one would think that as much as they harp on about Muhammad allegedly being a pedophile, and all Catholic priests being guilty of raping choir boys, they would be all over picketing the Anime Con crowd due to the whole Yaoi, Loli and Shota anime/manga porn thing and crossdressing male J-Rockers, especially after the quakes and the nuclear disasters and stuff in Japan.

I even wrote a timely topical Christian parody of Caramelldansen and tried to supply them with the instrumental version to sing over, and a sign of my own creation (I tried emailing this to Margie)... but it seems that WBC doesn't do -anything- unless the voice in their head, aka Gawd, tells them to, so no hopes of my parody ever getting sung, nope... just more boring and lyrically jumbled parodies of Riannon ft. Eminem, or Kesha, or Lady GaGa or whatever else happens to be playing on radio.

This image has been censored for your soul's protection.
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimage.org%2Fwe6l4c1u8%2FGOD_HATES_SHOTA.png&hash=7101f3d939fc2de19a46eb5254139d718a87c966)


"Doot-doo Dooo-ooooh, yah-ie, yah-ie, ya-ie-eh-yeh

You disobeyed God's laws, now yer gunna pay!
He sent the waves to wash Japan's filth away!
Pray to him, but he will not answer you.

(Answer you)

We tried to warn you all but you snubbed your nose
passed laws to hender us, the first amendment's a joke,
but you can't stop, our holy melody!

Ooh-wah-ooh-wah-oh

(CHORUS)

God can't hear you, hear you prayin' to him!
You had your chance, and now it's Armageddon!
It's no lie! You will see destruction.
Witness the glory of holy retribution!

Oooh-ooh-ooh-wah-wah
( no no no - hope)
Oooh-ooh-ooh-wah-wah, uh oh

Oooh-ooh-ooh-wah-wah
( no no no - hope)
Oooh-ooh-ooh-wah-wah, uh oh

Westboro Baptist Church is here to speak the truth
to all you Juh-pan worshipping wee-a-boos!
Don't waste your prayers,
on that pedo country filled with sin

Ooh-wah-ooh-wah-ow

Nuclear reactors melting down in scores
is punishment for scoffing at our holy words
you wouldn't hear, and you would not obey!

So now God - can't hear you, hear you prayin to him
You had your chance, and now it's Armageddon!
It's no lie! You will see destruction.
Witness the glory of holy retribution!"

*repeat chorus again after breakdown*


Lemme go on record that I'm not srs bizniss and I don't hate anyone, I just think it would be funny if the real deal instead of some watered down clones started picketing at Anime cons, I mean doing that would make them look even dumber than the time they targeted San Diego Comic Con for "making idols of Batman and Superman instead of worshipping Gawd", and maybe that's why they don't seem very keen on the idea. They know from the previous experience that they'd just get trawl'd and laughed at by a bunch of people, moreso than when they just do the other churches and funerals stuff (ie, their comfort zone). Also most of you, despite how loud you may get, aren't violent, and they -WANT- those bricks thru their van windows and spit / punches / bottles to the face, gives them lawsuit opportunities and helps fulfill their religious FURSECUTION fantasies.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on April 06, 2011, 03:27:38 AM
PS: Do the churchie nutters who picket Fanime every year have a website or email I could get in touch with them at? I have some lovely sign ideas I shooped that I'd love to share with them (for the lulz of course) *twiddles evil mustache* If the real deal won't accept my "help" then maybe their copycats would, I could help mold them into Weeaboo Westboro, lol... that should be their name from henceforth (either that or Phanime Phelps Phagz).

Sysadmin Edit: image removed, but use your imagination.

I don't actually hate furries, and I don't believe in God,
but could you imagine those guys holding signs like this? LAWL.

Sysadmin note: Well, that image was pretty much breaking the rules.  48 hour ban for you.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: LOVE.SAE on April 07, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
They are hypocrites in many way but since they're Calvinist, a lot of the hateful things they do relates to how Calvinist (a type of protestant) acted back in The 16th century.
They not only hate homosexuals, they also have a strong hate for Catholicism, Protestantism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism.

They also believes "that Barack Obama is the Antichrist, and that he forms an Unholy Trinity with Satan and Pope Benedict XVI, who they believe is the False Prophet."

(−_−;)

If anyone can answer this for me, I also been wondering why they choose to protest at Fanime. (; ̄O ̄)?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: otakuya on April 07, 2011, 09:23:14 PM
Quote from: LOVE.SAE on April 07, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
They not only hate homosexuals, they also have a strong hate for Catholicism, Protestantism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism.

If anyone can answer this for me, I also been wondering why they choose to protest at Fanime. (; ̄O ̄)?

Because Fanime preaches Awesomeism
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Eliteslayer on April 07, 2011, 09:57:54 PM
It's not the WBC that protests at Fanime, just a different bunch of religious nuts. They did, however, protest Comic-Con last year for "worshipping false idols." False idols, in this case, being Superman and Batman.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: LOVE.SAE on April 07, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
Quote from: Eliteslayer on April 07, 2011, 09:57:54 PM
It's not the WBC that protests at Fanime, just a different bunch of religious nuts. They did, however, protest Comic-Con last year for "worshipping false idols." False idols, in this case, being Superman and Batman.

I understand that, but would they be doing this for the same reason of "worshipping false idols?"

And apparently, they're against awesomeness from what I learned.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: G.I.R on April 08, 2011, 12:44:21 AM
It's more like they're against "what ever you've got".  I'm sure they change up whatever they protest to how socially relevant an event is.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on April 09, 2011, 02:51:28 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on April 06, 2011, 03:27:38 AM
Sysadmin Edit: image removed, but use your imagination.

I don't actually hate furries, and I don't believe in God,
but could you imagine those guys holding signs like this? LAWL.

Sysadmin note: Well, that image was pretty much breaking the rules.  48 hour ban for you.

So it was the image of Tails with a sloshing milk carton in his lap and the 3 letter F word blacked out with the brush tool that nabbed me the ban and not that other image? Anyways, yeah... the new official name for your group of churchtard trolls is now "Phanime Phelps." Just keep calling everyone in that group "Fred," regardless of age or gender and when one of 'em says "But I'm not--" you just say "Whatever, Fred Phelps. GTFO our con and go back to picketing dead soldiers and dead Amish girls' funerals!" - Continue to feign belief that they are Westboro, and attribute all the nasty things they've done to them, DO NOT go OOC or YOU LOSE TEH GAEM. If they have any thing resembling a conscious they will eventually realize what a bad face they are putting on their religion and they will give up. But if they're as insane and attention-whorish as the real thing, then probably not. But then you just make some funny signs about random internet crap and stand around them derailing their message, rite guiz?

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But I don't! I <3 u Derpy! Just like I <3 Mudkipz.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Haruka on May 02, 2011, 05:19:38 PM
I cannot describe just how much I love that idea.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 03, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
^Thanks.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 03, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on April 09, 2011, 02:51:28 PMwords

I love how the majority of this crowd is just as dumb and idiotic as the protestors they're calling dumb and idiotic.

You're basically doing the exact same thing they are doing, and then calling them dumb. You want to protest against a group of people for something that you believe in, that they don't. Only yours is MALICIOUS because you're directing it at them specifically and TRYING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS where by law, they are PEACEFULLY PROTESTING.

Just so you know, peacefully protesting means they are protesting with out commiting any direct crime or preventing anyone from any of their freedoms/rights.

So you don't believe what they're saying... how does this affect you at all? Does them being there bother you? Why? Seriously... why does it bother you? Unless they are throwing crap at you, physically touching you, or approaching/following you to cause problems... why the hell do you care? If you don't want to be around them, then don't be around them. Just continue walking to your destination.

Someone asked why they go to fanime. The answer is easy. It is a large event with lots of people. So by being there they get lots of attention. They go to any large event, regardless of what it is because that's how they get attention.

Now. you want to do something that draws attention to you, by harassing them, because... you think this will some how help the problem? You want to GIVE THEM ATTENTION... and think it'll solve the problem of them being there, when they WANT ATTENTION. Did I read that right? You think... giving attention to people who want attention will cause them to go away. Seriously... that's just retarded as all hell. You can't troll these people into leaving and by doing so all you do is make them happy.

And realistically, all you do is cause more problems for the con, the attendees, and the staff. Let's say one of you idiots trolling the protestors takes things too far, and a protestor attacks someone, a troll attacks someone, throws something and someone, in other words ANYTHING HAPPENS THAT ISN'T ELGAL AT ALL. Who do you think will be pinned for that? Yes, that's right kids. The con. Our attendees provoked a protestor. OUR ATTENDEES CAUSED A FIGHT. OUR ATTENDEES CAUSED SOMEONE TO GET HURT. How does that look for us. The venue can easily say "Nope, we don't want you back, your convention caused a fight where someone got seriously hurt and we don't want that at the convention center.


They're not doing anything wrong, even if you disagree with their message, just don't stand where they are and you have no problem. No one is forcing you to listen to them, the con center is pretty big and you can find somewhere else to stand. You can tune them out, you can ignore them. Don't cause problems for others because you think it's funny to "CAUSE PROBLEMS AND HARASS PEOPLE".
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Elimeno on May 05, 2011, 12:37:52 PM
I usually don't agree with the guy but Pyron, good show old chap.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: otakuya on May 05, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
Fanime isn't on their schedule!
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Elimeno on May 06, 2011, 02:20:34 AM
Quote from: Otakuya on May 05, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
Fanime isn't on their schedule!

Oh, thank God.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: SukebeStudios on May 06, 2011, 03:00:14 AM
I thought the thread was supposed to be bout the Westboro Baptist Church...not the "protestors" in front of the convention center? Maybe I'm just confused?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 06, 2011, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: SukebeStudios on May 06, 2011, 03:00:14 AM
I thought the thread was supposed to be bout the Westboro Baptist Church...not the "protestors" in front of the convention center? Maybe I'm just confused?

Don't play mod when you fail at having coherent thoughts and post things in the wrong place constantly.

It was about the cult itself, but if you couldn't tell, that event is long passed. The conversation led up to the discussion of people of this kind in general and why they exist, what should be done, and how we feel about them. Learn to follow a conversation please.

Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 06, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
As a Homosexual, I find it offensive that they can even HAVE a URL like that. I wont even be there when they arrive. Well I might make out with one of my bi/ gay friends before laughing and walking away.

The police are there, shouln't they be able to arrest? Becuase that is politically incorrect?

One year I was minding my OWN business, Walking back to the hotel IGNORING them, and one started to yell at me. And they said some PRETYY hurtful things. Which actually made me cry.

I am not christian but I have been in the past when I was younger, dont Baptist's believe in the 7 Deadly Sins? Vanity DOES include religion does it not? I mean Vanity is excessive Pride... and that I KNOW is a Deadly sin? Or does that not include them because they are "Saints" in their own eyes?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 06, 2011, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 06, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
As a Homosexual, I find it offensive that they can even HAVE a URL like that. I wont even be there when they arrive. Well I might make out with one of my bi/ gay friends before laughing and walking away.

The police are there, shouln't they be able to arrest? Becuase that is politically incorrect?

One year I was minding my OWN business, Walking back to the hotel IGNORING them, and one started to yell at me. And they said some PRETYY hurtful things. Which actually made me cry.

I am not christian but I have been in the past when I was younger, dont Baptist's believe in the 7 Deadly Sins? Vanity DOES include religion does it not? I mean Vanity is excessive Pride... and that I KNOW is a Deadly sin? Or does that not include them because they are "Saints" in their own eyes?

It is not illegal to be politically incorrect. It's not illegal to be racist, sexist, or anything else that is basically having an opinion or judgment of other people unless it is actually discriminatory to the point where it physically affects the person.

Just like you have the right to be homosexual, they have a right to dislike homosexuals. They are only breaking the law if they do actual measurable damage to you. No, making you cry is not measurable mental anguish to be illegal.

You're homosexual, you're going to get things like this everywhere in life... time to toughen up.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Melly on May 06, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: LOVE.SAE on April 07, 2011, 06:08:11 PM

If anyone can answer this for me, I also been wondering why they choose to protest at Fanime. (; ̄O ̄)?

i had a few of my friends talk to them /calmly/ and basically what he got out of them is that we're pretending to be someone were not (you know with cosplay).

then they tried shoving religion down his throat and gave him little booklet things xD;;
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 06, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 06, 2011, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 06, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
As a Homosexual, I find it offensive that they can even HAVE a URL like that. I wont even be there when they arrive. Well I might make out with one of my bi/ gay friends before laughing and walking away.

The police are there, shouln't they be able to arrest? Becuase that is politically incorrect?

One year I was minding my OWN business, Walking back to the hotel IGNORING them, and one started to yell at me. And they said some PRETYY hurtful things. Which actually made me cry.

I am not christian but I have been in the past when I was younger, dont Baptist's believe in the 7 Deadly Sins? Vanity DOES include religion does it not? I mean Vanity is excessive Pride... and that I KNOW is a Deadly sin? Or does that not include them because they are "Saints" in their own eyes?

It is not illegal to be politically incorrect. It's not illegal to be racist, sexist, or anything else that is basically having an opinion or judgment of other people unless it is actually discriminatory to the point where it physically affects the person.

Just like you have the right to be homosexual, they have a right to dislike homosexuals. They are only breaking the law if they do actual measurable damage to you. No, making you cry is not measurable mental anguish to be illegal.

You're homosexual, you're going to get things like this everywhere in life... time to toughen up.

Point made, BUT they are doing it on loosely based hatred, and they have no other idea WHY they are doing it, other than "The bible says so." I mean I know I was Catholic, but the bible still says the same thing, it is an irrational and pointless hate to have. A FEAR I would understand and POSSIBLY respect more than a hatred. but still it is irrational. I know one year one of my friends got into an argument with them I kept saying "You are not going to win, you would have a better argument with a rock."

LAST point by me, went unresponded to O.o Is that a strong argument? About Vanity? Vanity is one of the worst sins that I know. And they are in DIRECT violation of that. Because as I said Vanity is excessive pride in objects, or ones self (or aspects of life) This could include being rich, thinking you a very beautiful or flawless person, OR EVEN THINKING YOUR IDEAS ARE BEST! INCLUDING Religious ideology. They are in direct violation of JUST that. Thinking that their ideology is the right and the best. The Anglicans get that (my grandparents church). Why cant they?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 07, 2011, 01:51:35 AM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 06, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
LAST point by me, went unresponded to O.o Is that a strong argument? About Vanity? Vanity is one of the worst sins that I know. And they are in DIRECT violation of that. Because as I said Vanity is excessive pride in objects, or ones self (or aspects of life) This could include being rich, thinking you a very beautiful or flawless person, OR EVEN THINKING YOUR IDEAS ARE BEST! INCLUDING Religious ideology. They are in direct violation of JUST that. Thinking that their ideology is the right and the best. The Anglicans get that (my grandparents church). Why cant they?
It wasn't addressed because it doesn't matter. Frankly, the bible in itself contradicts itself over and over and over and over again. In terms of interpretation it can have infinite amounts of meaning and people make whatever meaning they want out of it. You can go back through history and take the biggest sin of killing another man. Yet religion has been the basis of the majority of the major wars out there. The crusades, WWII being two of the most significant where millions died under the name of Christianity/Catholicism.

The issue is that, it's not about logic, it's about beliefs. You cannot sway someone with logic when the person doesn't care about logic and is following beliefs. Which once more returns me to...

So what? This is what they believe, let them believe it, as long as they're not forcing anything upon you, then you shouldn't care. If you let what they do bother you... they win.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 07, 2011, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 07, 2011, 01:51:35 AM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 06, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
LAST point by me, went unresponded to O.o Is that a strong argument? About Vanity? Vanity is one of the worst sins that I know. And they are in DIRECT violation of that. Because as I said Vanity is excessive pride in objects, or ones self (or aspects of life) This could include being rich, thinking you a very beautiful or flawless person, OR EVEN THINKING YOUR IDEAS ARE BEST! INCLUDING Religious ideology. They are in direct violation of JUST that. Thinking that their ideology is the right and the best. The Anglicans get that (my grandparents church). Why cant they?
It wasn't addressed because it doesn't matter. Frankly, the bible in itself contradicts itself over and over and over and over again. In terms of interpretation it can have infinite amounts of meaning and people make whatever meaning they want out of it. You can go back through history and take the biggest sin of killing another man. Yet religion has been the basis of the majority of the major wars out there. The crusades, WWII being two of the most significant where millions died under the name of Christianity/Catholicism.

The issue is that, it's not about logic, it's about beliefs. You cannot sway someone with logic when the person doesn't care about logic and is following beliefs. Which once more returns me to...

So what? This is what they believe, let them believe it, as long as they're not forcing anything upon you, then you shouldn't care. If you let what they do bother you... they win.

You know PyronIkari, I NEVER agreed with what you have said in the past many times... But I TOTALLY agree with you. The bible DOES contradict it self. Leaving its followers to actually fill the voids. So I must applaud you and say "Well Put." :D

And when you said this;
QuoteIf you let what they do bother you... they win.
It actually inspired me to go into Fanime and when I pass them to think a LITTLE differently.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: LOVE.SAE on May 10, 2011, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: Melly on May 06, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: LOVE.SAE on April 07, 2011, 06:08:11 PM

If anyone can answer this for me, I also been wondering why they choose to protest at Fanime. (; ̄O ̄)?

i had a few of my friends talk to them /calmly/ and basically what he got out of them is that we're pretending to be someone were not (you know with cosplay).

then they tried shoving religion down his throat and gave him little booklet things xD;;

Whot >:0
But it's so fun to show appreciation for a character you enjoy!
What about all those plays and reinacments on Christmas of Jesus being born, they make kids do that at church every year = 3= I guess that's going to far, but to each their own I guess );
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 10, 2011, 05:31:04 PM
Quote from: LOVE.SAE on May 10, 2011, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: Melly on May 06, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: LOVE.SAE on April 07, 2011, 06:08:11 PM

If anyone can answer this for me, I also been wondering why they choose to protest at Fanime. (; ̄O ̄)?

i had a few of my friends talk to them /calmly/ and basically what he got out of them is that we're pretending to be someone were not (you know with cosplay).

then they tried shoving religion down his throat and gave him little booklet things xD;;

Whot >:0
But it's so fun to show appreciation for a character you enjoy!
What about all those plays and reinacments on Christmas of Jesus being born, they make kids do that at church every year = 3= I guess that's going to far, but to each their own I guess );

I think I can answer why they do this. My parents think this way;
They choose Fanime BECAUSE I would guess there are a lot of people either who are gay, bi or even experimenting with their sexuality. AND they believe Anime spreads Sin, all of it is debauchery, and they figure because it is SUCH a large convention, they MIGHT have someone listen to them. THey protest because  they think they are right, and everyone else is wrong. I mean according to my parents. My parents believe the protesters are in the right.

I would just stick with what PyronIkari says... "If you let what they do bother you... they win."
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 10, 2011, 06:13:36 PM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 10, 2011, 05:31:04 PM=
I think I can answer why they do this. My parents think this way;
They choose Fanime BECAUSE I would guess there are a lot of people either who are gay, bi or even experimenting with their sexuality. AND they believe Anime spreads Sin, all of it is debauchery, and they figure because it is SUCH a large convention, they MIGHT have someone listen to them. THey protest because  they think they are right, and everyone else is wrong. I mean according to my parents. My parents believe the protesters are in the right.

I would just stick with what PyronIkari says... "If you let what they do bother you... they win."


Maybe you should read the rest of what I wrote as well.

They couldn't care less about fanime or your sexuality, or anyone's sexuality at the damned convention. They don't give a crap about anime or cosplay. What they care about is that IT IS A LARGE EVENT, THUS, IF THEY GO, THEY WILL GET LOTS OF ATTENTION.

Seriously, I don't give a damn if you're homosexual, bi, or straight, but you seem to love shoving the fact down other peoples' throats. You're making an issue out of your homosexuality when no one else is.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 11, 2011, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 10, 2011, 06:13:36 PM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 10, 2011, 05:31:04 PM=
I think I can answer why they do this. My parents think this way;
They choose Fanime BECAUSE I would guess there are a lot of people either who are gay, bi or even experimenting with their sexuality. AND they believe Anime spreads Sin, all of it is debauchery, and they figure because it is SUCH a large convention, they MIGHT have someone listen to them. THey protest because  they think they are right, and everyone else is wrong. I mean according to my parents. My parents believe the protesters are in the right.

I would just stick with what PyronIkari says... "If you let what they do bother you... they win."


Maybe you should read the rest of what I wrote as well.

They couldn't care less about fanime or your sexuality, or anyone's sexuality at the damned convention. They don't give a crap about anime or cosplay. What they care about is that IT IS A LARGE EVENT, THUS, IF THEY GO, THEY WILL GET LOTS OF ATTENTION.

Seriously, I don't give a damn if you're homosexual, bi, or straight, but you seem to love shoving the fact down other peoples' throats. You're making an issue out of your homosexuality when no one else is.

They are just spreading their nonsense PyronIkari. I mean YEAH they do give a damn about your sexuality. They chewed me out for being a crossplayer. BUT NO! you ARE TOTALLY right in saying
QuoteWhat they care about is that IT IS A LARGE EVENT, THUS, IF THEY GO, THEY WILL GET LOTS OF ATTENTION.

I mean I have to totally agree. BUT they do have that site "godhatesfags" and they have had shirts that say the same kind of stuff.

However they DO not only protest that. They just... protest and argue with anyone willing to do so
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 11, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Fight hate with lulz is what I say...

The power of their message is lessened with parody and comedy. I'm not encouraging anyone to pick up rocks and chuck them at the churchies, I'm only encouraging them to spoof them, or at the least continually confuse them with another group who's probably too crazy and militant even for them. And if one of them gets all butt-hurt and does something physical to a congoer, then it's on them. Sue the crap out of -them- not the con.

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Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 11, 2011, 09:25:57 AM

I mean I have to totally agree. BUT they do have that site "godhatesfags" and they have had shirts that say the same kind of stuff.

However they DO not only protest that. They just... protest and argue with anyone willing to do so


This is good, please keep doing this. ^_^


Quote from: PyronIkari on May 03, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
Someone asked why they go to Fanime...

Simple, they go to Fanime because they are part of the same contingency of hyper religious nutters who think that Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh are occultist how-to-guides training kids to summon real live demons and think that an epileptic seizure caused by a flashing Nintendo game is really Satanic Possession.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOy2xaqbNQc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOy2xaqbNQc) - I lol'd harder than I ever lol'd before...
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 11, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 11, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Fight hate with lulz is what I say...


Uh you know the irony in that is... you're fighting hate with hate then. You're being a hypocrite, and you're no better than the people you're making fun of. You still cause the same problems regardless, and you're acting LOWER than them, because at least they're doing something they believe in, yours is just harassment.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 12, 2011, 09:10:15 AM
Actually I never said I was going to do anything. So in no way am I sinking lower then them O.o. In fact I hope to find out when they come, and leave back to the hotel BEFORE they come in order to avoid them. I am going to go like read or something by the Hotel Pool. Loose myself in some fantasy Novel.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 09:42:12 AM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 12, 2011, 09:10:15 AM
Actually I never said I was going to do anything. So in no way am I sinking lower then them O.o. In fact I hope to find out when they come, and leave back to the hotel BEFORE they come in order to avoid them. I am going to go like read or something by the Hotel Pool. Loose myself in some fantasy Novel.

Everytime you post, it irritates me. You either, don't read what's written, write something that has nothing to do with what you're replying to, or you COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT OF WHAT WAS BEING SAID.

I never said you did/were going to do those things. I was replying to someone else, that I quoted. Why would you assume I was talking to you?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 12, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 11, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 11, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Fight hate with lulz is what I say...

You're acting LOWER than them, because at least they're doing something they believe in, yours is just harassment.

How do you know what I believe in, and that my beliefs are less valid or worth defending than theirs are?

Lower than them would still be doing something to genuinely cause them physical harm, like picking up and throwing a Ramuné bottle and deliberately aiming for the face. I'm just talking about making some funny signs and pretending to confuse them with the Phelps Phamily simply for the sake of irony. I think you give the counter protesters too little credit or atleast you unfairly paint them as reckless, thoughtless and violent. Nobody's setting them up the bomb for great justice or trying to put a brick through the windshield of their party van, they're just being mocked playfully and we've as much right to that as the churchies have to their choice of picketing grounds.

Do you really think simply ignoring them will make them go away? Nah, that'll just make them troll harder and the dream of them being "completely ignored" isn't going to happen no matter how hard you or con staff wish for it. There will always be atleast one person at one of these events whose going to have an insatiable urge to screw with these people's heads and you won't stop them unless you set up some kind of rule that says ANYONE engaging the Phanime Phelps Phacsimiles in ANY WAY AT ALL (signs, verbal communication, music-trolling, planned religious figure cosplay) will be totally banninated from the con without so much as a refund of their admission.

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Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 10, 2011, 05:31:04 PM
They choose Fanime BECAUSE I would guess there are a lot of people either who are gay, bi or even experimenting with their sexuality. AND they believe Anime spreads Sin, all of it is debauchery.

If they think this about people dressing up as Ichigo and Naruto, or "crossplaying" characters of another gender, then I wonder what they'd think if they ever went to a FurCon. Someone should make them aware of its existence, as someone else had alerted them to the existence of "Yaoi" in one of the Fanime viddies on Youtube.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 12, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
How do you know what I believe in, and that my beliefs are less valid or less worth defending than theirs are?
Worth defending.. yes... but you're not defending anything here. Defending something means that your beliefs are being attacked to the point that you are being affected, which isn't the case here. They are not doing anything to you to where your beliefs are being altered nor are you being altered due to their comments.

QuoteLower than them would still be doing something to genuinely cause them physical harm, like picking up and throwing a Ramuné bottle and deliberately aiming for the face. I'm just talking about making some funny signs and pretending to confuse them with the Phelps Phamily simply for the sake of irony. I think you give the counter protesters too little credit or atleast you unfairly paint them as reckless, thoughtless and violent. Nobody's setting them up the bomb for great justice or trying to put a brick through the windshield of their party van, they're just being mocked playfully and we've as much right to that as the churchies have to their choice of picketing grounds.
No, lower than them is doing anything they are doing with lower reasoning in doing it. Confuse them? You seriously have no clue what you're doing if you believe you're going to confuse them or your counter protesting will help in any way shape or form at all. The ABSOLUTE ONLY RESULT is that nothing will change, or you will make things worse. By law you have as much right to do that, but get over your damn self and realize that it affects more than just you nor what you can do lawfully. Again, think about the conventions position, and the position of everyone that are higher up than your average con-goer. Think about everyone that has to deal with the SJCC staff, with the SJPD, and every other venue issue that is involved. If an argument, just verbal at that, happens, passer byers will be subject to it. If they get complaints about arguments, who do you think gets the blunt end of it? The con, not the protestors. Why? Because the con instigated by disturbing their protest.

QuoteDo you really think simply ignoring them will make them go away? Nah, that'll just make them troll harder and the dream of them being "completely ignored" isn't going to happen no matter how hard you or con staff wish for it. There will always be atleast one person at one of these events whose going to have an insatiable urge to screw with these people's heads and you won't stop them unless you set up some kind of rule that says ANYONE engaging the Phanime Phelps Phacsimiles in ANY WAY AT ALL (signs, verbal communication, music-trolling, planned religious figure cosplay) will be totally banninated from the con without so much as a refund of their admission.
Nothing is going to get them to go away. Why add fuel to the fire? You're basically accomplishing nothing but giving the con a bad name, and MAKING THINGS WORSE, what part of this is too difficult for your little mind to comprehend. YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT THE CON, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT PHYSICALLY ATTACKING PEOPLE.

OH, but even if you ignore them, other people won't? Do you realize how absolutely retarded you sound saying that? "Other people are acting like total dumbasses, so I should to". Way to represent everything idiotic with the world, and once more proving, that you are below the protestors themselves.

You are seriously stating, you don't give a damn who it affects, you don't care what reprecussions may come from it, because you think it's funny to make fun of other people because they have a different belief system than you. You don't give a damn about the convention and what may happen, you don't give a damn about the staff or the attendees, you are going to go out of yourway to make fun of some other people that you think are stupid.

How are you not below them? Again, you are trolling people to accomplish nothing other than to make fun of them, with no care about what problems it may cause. They are doing something out of their beliefs that it may save people. You are absolutely below them.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 12, 2011, 01:50:24 PM
In any of the YT viddies that people posted of these guys at the con, was anyone actively trying to hurt the protesters? It looked to me like people were having fun and having a laugh, nobody seemed like they were traumatized by the event. They're nerds, nerds have a sense of humor and they know how to joke around and not be super cereal about crap. That's why WBC failed when they tried to do ComicCon and that was a major news covered event and I don't see anyone from ComicCon staff freaking out half as hard as you are, they were probably having a laugh right along with everyone else. And passersby, if one of the churchies tries to engage someone -not- part of the convention they're either gunna pretend they don't exist because it isn't their battle or they'll respond because they have something to add, and so what either way as long as they're doing it nonviolently, right? You say its fine for the churchies to do what they're doing because they're doing it nonviolently, so why is it when the other side does it they're "retarded morons?" Because they don't have a religious text to justify their actions? And holy frigging hell, you're condescending. Tone it down a bit, eh?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 12, 2011, 01:50:24 PM
In any of the YT viddies that people posted of these guys at the con, was anyone actively trying to hurt the protesters? It looked to me like people were having fun and having a laugh, nobody seemed like they were traumatized by the event. They're nerds, nerds have a sense of humor and they know how to joke around and not be super cereal about crap. That's why WBC failed when they tried to do ComicCon and that was a major news covered event and I don't see anyone from ComicCon staff freaking out half as hard as you are, they were probably having a laugh right along with everyone else. And passersby, if one of the churchies tries to engage someone -not- part of the convention they're either gunna pretend they don't exist because it isn't their battle or they'll respond because they have something to add, and so what either way as long as they're doing it nonviolently, right? You say its fine for the churchies to do what they're doing because they're doing it nonviolently, so why is it when the other side does it they're "retarded morons?" Because they don't have a religious text to justify their actions? And holy frigging hell, you're condescending. Tone it down a bit, eh?

I'm assuming you don't know anything about what actually happened at SDCC as you refer to "videos" and the such. So dont' bring it up unless you actually know what happened, because you'd be shut down rather fast as to what actually took place(and yay I can't talk about it because I'm not supposed to). It's not about "religious context" It's about being the better person.

Why are they retarded morons?

Okay... let me get this straight. You think, the protestors are idiots. You think they should leave and not harass other people or bother anyone. So what you are going to do... is... mimic them? How is that not being a retarded moron. "Man I really hate people like this... so I'm going to act just like them!" SO INCREDIBLY SMRT!

But just to prove a point...

This serves my point exactly. There's no point in arguing with an idiot that thinks they're right in their actions and beliefs. By responding and trying to use logic as a point, you will not actually answer or respond to any of those points but just bring up examples that you think are correct not refuting anything that was actually presented about how this CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS. "BUT SDCC LET PEOPLE, SO YOU SHOULD!" What a god damned joke. Arguing with you is as futile as trying to tell religious nuts. Because you obviously think you know better and are more intelligent than the other person speaking who actually knows about the events that took place and what happens on the grander scheme of things.

But no, you're totally right. Go harass them at the expense of the convention. Feel free. What do you care if it causes problems, you get to discriminate and laugh at people you think are stupid... for being discriminate towards other people.

As i said, you're no better than them, and if anything you're worse because YOU CHOOSE TO BE A HYPOCRITE AND ACT LIKE THE PEOPLE YOU DISLIKE.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 12, 2011, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
I'm assuming you don't know anything about what actually happened at SDCC as you refer to "videos" and the like. So don't bring it up unless you actually know what happened, because you'd be shut down rather fast as to what actually took place (and yay I can't talk about it because I'm not supposed to). It's not about "religious context" It's about being the better person.

I'm trying to read but all I'm getting out of it is snoot snoot snoot, anger anger anger and IHY,GDIAF.

And obviously a crapton of people said "screw it" to that whole "being the better person" bit, judging by all the folks with the signs and makeshift cardboard Bender outfits and that one fursuiter guy, lol. And even if their staff did have issue with what 99.9% of the people out there were doing, it's not like they were going to be able to stop it anyhow. WBC and their copycats have their rights, but so does everyone else and if you tried to take away one group's right to voice their views but not the other, then what's that say? If anything I think more people are interested in both conventions because of these events and the videos of them, though WBC at CC was a one time thing that they'll probably never replicate because of how hard they failed and got reverse trolled, and Phanime Phelps is more of a continued tradition.


Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
Okay... let me get this straight. You think, the protesters are idiots.
You think they should leave and not harass other people or bother anyone.

I share your attitude that they have every legal right to be there and broadcast their message as loudly and obnoxiously as they please, but so do I and when presented with the opportunity I will do so in the most nonviolent, sarcasm-saturated way that I can as allowed by this government.


Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
Because you obviously think you know better and are more intelligent than the other person speaking who actually knows about the events that took place and what happens on the grander scheme of things.

LOLWhut? Yer doing that ego/condescending thing again. Chillax, this isn't the JRock Fandom, you don't have to show me up with your collection of expensive, imported, out of print Visual Kei band CD's. I don't claim to know more than you about anything, I'm not trying to outdo you on anything, so just chill. Your honor and your superiority do not need defending, I am not puffing up my chest trying to compete, I am not a threat to you.


Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
But no, you're totally right. Go harass them at the expense of the convention. Feel free.

What do you care if it causes problems, you get to discriminate and laugh at people you think are stupid... for being discriminate towards other people.

As i said, you're no better than them, and if anything you're worse because YOU CHOOSE TO BE A HYPOCRITE AND ACT LIKE THE PEOPLE YOU DISLIKE.

Yup, I'm 127% heap-of-crit. I want to see every Klansmen hung from a tree or dragged by chains attached to the tailgate of a Ford pickup speeding through a backwoods gravel road. I want to see Auschwitz and Dachau re-opened for business and for every Neo Nazi and Hitler sympathizer to be sent there for a nice long Zyklon B shower. I want every evangelical who ever ran a de-gayification camp to be sent to a de-churchification camp. I'm totally not just saying these things for a laugh or to be ironic. I'm just an evil terrible person who thinks of nothing but hate and has no compassion or understanding for anyone and is only concerned with the superiority of his own beliefs. I'm an inverted image of everything I'm against, the Bizzarro World of Bigots.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 04:17:57 PM
You seriously have no clue what happened at SDCC so I seriously suggest you not talk like you do. It didn't happen how you think it did.

As for the rest I'm not going to bother. Arguing with an idiot that thinks he's right accomplishes nothing. It's just like trying to argue with the religious protestors, logic doesn't mean anything. You will completely ignore anything that has a point, and you will exagerate or find examples of things that aren't even true to state that you are correct. As I said, continue to do as you wish, regardless of how it may affect the convention.

But just as a side note. Psychological reasoning shows that people who act in irrational behavior to "be funny" or "ironic" without purpose generally are shown to do this because they're too stupid to do something of merit or worth. It's a to claim attention in a form to show worth. "I don't know how to do something worth while, so I'll scream louder and draw attention so people will think I'm doing something right". Sadly the internet encourages these people to act like this.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 12, 2011, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on May 12, 2011, 04:17:57 PM
You seriously have no clue what happened at SDCC so I seriously suggest you not talk like you do. It didn't happen how you think it did.

Can I please hear more about your ultra-rare $900,000 copy
of X-Japan's "I'm Better Than You And You're a F--?" =^_^=
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Ikki Yoneda on May 22, 2011, 10:32:59 PM
Quote from: Otakuya on May 05, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
Fanime isn't on their schedule!
Probably not on the WBC schedule, but definitely on the other group's schedule. I saw it on their web site; all four days of FanimeCon are listed. Founded by a Fremont, California guy, and no church affiliation that I can find.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 23, 2011, 01:49:54 PM
I would like a link to that website.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Glitch on May 23, 2011, 02:59:06 PM
I found there website.
http://crytogod.com/homepage.html
They are more like a group that that helps out local douchebags everywhere by giving them signs, rather than one collective church. Their leader is a man named Kevin Farrer.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Melly on May 23, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
ok what the hell.

i looked threw the events and was like "oh metal, pop icons, fanime.........

Sesame Street?!?[/u][/i]"

why are they protesting at Sesame Street show........... ?!?!?! D: someone explain? what the hell could be "ungodly" or whatever at ANYTHING that has to do with Sesame Street.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 23, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
Quote from: Melly on May 23, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
ok what the hell.

i looked threw the events and was like "oh metal, pop icons, fanime.........

Sesame Street?!?[/u][/i]"

why are they protesting at Sesame Street show........... ?!?!?! D: someone explain? what the hell could be "ungodly" or whatever at ANYTHING that has to do with Sesame Street.

Seriously, why don't you guys read. It's not so much about what the show is, but how many people it draws. They just need a reason to go, and they can make up a reason to protest. Sesame Street uses muppets that mimic humans. This is blasphemous to give human traits to "monsters" (Sesame St's name for them, not mine).
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Ikki Yoneda on May 23, 2011, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Melly on May 23, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
why are they protesting at Sesame Street show........... ?!?!?! D: someone explain? what the hell could be "ungodly" or whatever at ANYTHING that has to do with Sesame Street.
Rumors. Bert and Ernie are rumored to be gay. Snopes says, "False." But who ever checks Snopes?    :-\
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 23, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
I sent them an email with a link to FurtherConfusion, lol...
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 24, 2011, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 23, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
I sent them an email with a link to FurtherConfusion, lol...

OH GAWURSH! Thats going to be a field day for them XD
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: kill3rsushi on May 25, 2011, 02:27:28 AM
Every year I see the protesters and every year they attempt to slander my good name. Peaceful protest is one thing, but claiming that I am a prostitute in front of my father and boyfriend... Can't I sue them or call the cops for that? I haven't passed the BAR but I am pretty sure that I have the right to defend my reputation. Saying anime in general are demonic temptations and that cosplayers in general are going to hell is one thing, but even though I didn't personally take offense to that, when a person from that group looks me in the eye, points their finger in my direction and calls out "whore" I want to retaliate.

The saddest part of all this was two years ago, seeing my devoutly Christian friend cry while she told the protesters, "Jesus loves me and wants me to be happy, that's why he brought anime and cosplay into my life" to which they told her she was a whore and going to hell. She lost both of her parents to cancer and only survived the foster system thanks to the friends she made at her school's anime club, so she genuinely believes it was sent to her to save her and her sister's lives. She loves her lord and they damned her for that love and devotion because of her harmless hobby. There's just no way to reason with them and instead of being theatrical and radical like they want us to, it's better to be subtle.

This year, I plan on telling anyone who yells at me the same thing I tell them every year, "I am praying for you." Still, it would be nice to know if there's any real, viable legal action I or any of us can take against personal attacks.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Ikki Yoneda on May 25, 2011, 08:32:33 AM
Quote from: kill3rsushi on May 25, 2011, 02:27:28 AMThis year, I plan on telling anyone who yells at me the same thing I tell them every year, "I am praying for you." Still, it would be nice to know if there's any real, viable legal action I or any of us can take against personal attacks.
They are sad people, ignorant of the ways of the faith they profess. But they are legally savvy, and are trying to push people's buttons. My take on them is a bit different from the FanimeCon honchos; but I suppose being in the same faith, I have a different insight. They are trying to provoke a response. They have a network of like-minded friends, and would like nothing better than to brag about being "Persecuted Christians". Do you really want to give them that? At any rate, the honchos would have us leave them alone, and I do agree with that. They can't claim that they are persecuted if we leave them alone.

Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 25, 2011, 08:48:21 AM
Quote from: kill3rsushi on May 25, 2011, 02:27:28 AM
This year, I plan on telling anyone who yells at me the same thing I tell them every year, "I am praying for you." Still, it would be nice to know if there's any real, viable legal action I or any of us can take against personal attacks.

No unless there is provable harm done to constitute it being slander. Basically said personal attack has to do something that changes your reputation on a level that causes losses that are measurable. I.E. the personal attack has to prevent you from getting a job, or lose out on a business deal, something of that extent.

But why bother retaliating if it doesn't accomplish anything, seriously. Waste of time and effort and just adds to them wanting to attack more people.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 25, 2011, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: Melly on May 23, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
ok what the hell.

i looked threw the events and was like "oh metal, pop icons, fanime.........

Sesame Street?!?[/u][/i]"
why are they protesting at Sesame Street show....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9DGhfDrLK4

What I'm more baffled about is what made them picket a Kenny Chesney concert, I mean I thought churchie hicks were into all that kunchree mewsick crapola and vice versa.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PyronIkari on May 25, 2011, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 25, 2011, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: Melly on May 23, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
ok what the hell.

i looked threw the events and was like "oh metal, pop icons, fanime.........

Sesame Street?!?[/u][/i]"
why are they protesting at Sesame Street show....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9DGhfDrLK4

What I'm more baffled about is what made them picket a Kenny Chesney concert, I mean I thought churchie hicks were into all that kunchree mewsick crapola and vice versa.

And there's the blatent irony of you being just as judgmental and the hypocrite I said you were. To not even make the obvious statement of prejudice, but to go out of your way to mock it. Congrats at being what you supposedly hate.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 25, 2011, 05:11:27 PM
I'm just doing what they do to us, generalizing and making assumptions based on a few experiences with a small pocket of the group. Y'know, for the lulz and so forth. Cuz one churchie = all churchies.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Glitch on May 25, 2011, 05:32:49 PM
It seems the concept "they don't care who they're protesting, as long there's a crowd to get them attention!" escapes some people.
This group would protest even if it was Jesus himself holding an event.
Compared to the westboro church, they're actually more ignorant of the events they protest since wbc gets really personal. Though these idiots seem to be louder than wbc. It's hard to tell if they want people to punch them in order to sue the way wbc does.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: HerpDerpMcSlurp on May 25, 2011, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: kill3rsushi on May 25, 2011, 02:27:28 AMPeaceful protest is one thing, but claiming that I am a prostitute in front of my father and boyfriend... Can't I sue them or call the cops for that? When a person from that group looks me in the eye, points their finger in my direction and calls out "whore" I want to retaliate.

The real deal Westboro does this stuff to folks all the time, I read that Fred once randomly shouted the N-word at some black woman walking past when they were doing one of their anti-gay pickets outside of some court house: http://blank.org/addict/chapter6.html

Quote from: kill3rsushi on May 25, 2011, 02:27:28 AMThe saddest part of all this was two years ago, seeing my devoutly Christian friend cry while she told the protesters, "Jesus loves me and wants me to be happy, that's why he brought anime and cosplay into my life" to which they told her she was a whore and going to hell. She lost both of her parents to cancer and only survived the foster system thanks to the friends she made at her school's anime club, so she genuinely believes it was sent to her to save her and her sister's lives. She loves her lord and they damned her for that love and devotion...

Well of course they'd say that to her, because that's what being a hardcore super cereal xtian is all about; striving to reach the impossible goal of being "perfect" and then pridefully shoving it in the face of everyone else who isn't, even if they are "believers" too. They'll scour for any little slip up, any little conspiracy they can pick out and say "you're not good enough because of this." Like being a fan of Christian "Rock"... http://www.av1611.org/crock/crockex1.html - Or wanting to wear a bathing suit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2xi-ODQUDw (8:27)
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: RowanRavensong on May 25, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Glitch on May 25, 2011, 05:32:49 PM
It seems the concept "they don't care who they're protesting, as long there's a crowd to get them attention!" escapes some people.
This group would protest even if it was Jesus himself holding an event.
Compared to the westboro church, they're actually more ignorant of the events they protest since wbc gets really personal. Though these idiots seem to be louder than wbc. It's hard to tell if they want people to punch them in order to sue the way wbc does.

There should be a like button XD
I would like this
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: m0ckingbird on March 19, 2013, 05:53:01 AM
Quote from: Otakuya on January 25, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
To be brutally honest, if you just stay inside the convention center, you probably won't notice them and won't bother you.

While this is true, it's the principle of the thing. I can't stand them and I'm put in an absolutely sour mood when I see them, especially at con and place I call home.
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 08:46:22 AM
Westboro always makes me lulz. They have such a strong belief for what they're shouting. Anyone seen those British(I believe) documentaries on them?
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: Lucifargundam on July 25, 2013, 01:51:26 AM
Not sure if Westboro is a troll belief or belief in trollism...
Title: Re: Everyones least favorite cult is stopping by the Bay Area again.
Post by: G.I.R on July 30, 2013, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: RowanRavensong on May 25, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Glitch on May 25, 2011, 05:32:49 PM
It seems the concept "they don't care who they're protesting, as long there's a crowd to get them attention!" escapes some people.
This group would protest even if it was Jesus himself holding an event.
Compared to the westboro church, they're actually more ignorant of the events they protest since wbc gets really personal. Though these idiots seem to be louder than wbc. It's hard to tell if they want people to punch them in order to sue the way wbc does.

There should be a like button XD
I would like this
Same here!