Stemmed from my opinions in my "What games are you looking forward to" this topic is born.
In my opinion Yellow is just as good as blue (and I only like Blue more than red was because I caught all 151 pokemon legally). I will give you that Scyther does give Red some amazing win points.
When it comes to Gold, Silver, and Crystal I never owned Crystal, but I loved Gold the most.
Emerald was better than Ruby and Sapphire since you could catch all the three main legendaries.
So we shall see how Platinum stacks up.
Starting at Yellow, none of the games could compare to the "wow" and "holy shit" phenomenon that the original red/blue created. Red and Blue introduced a whole new kind of game, with cute yet powerful monsters that you train as your own. That first obsessive year of red/blue was magical in my opinion. When yellow hit the scene, I did indeed enjoy getting all 3 starters myself, but the game didn't have the same magic and wow of exploring a completely new world. Who knew that PoS magikarp would turn into such a godly pokemon? I DIDN'T. I threw that sucker away until I faced a gyarados. OMG that was magical. Struggling to get my first dratini, wow that was some damn pride right there.
I think diamond/pearl indeed succeeds the pokemon series nicely, but I don't think even it can compare to the wow that the original experiences of training and evolving had.
I continue to follow this franchise, but I acknowledge that none of the succeeding games can ever recreate the original magic that red/blue created.
Well I'm sure if you never played Pokemon and you picked up Diamond/Pearl, you would have the same reaction you had with Red/Blue.
The reason they don't feel as glamorous as the originals is that they go through such similar scenario so much.
R/B, G/S, R/S, D/P, they all have a similar scenario, with different environments and more Pokemon the newer it is.
In the end, the newer one is the better generation, as it has everything from before, plus extra.
Just how I think Halo3 is better than Halo2 though, I still remember the great times and experiences of H2 that outshine H3.
I will agree with what you said JT about the feelings of excitement, but I got that thrill from Yellow since it was my first pokemon game. Then I bought blue and red (in that order).
That's probably why you're biased towards it. I had blue first, so that magic was in blue/red to me. elite 4 was stupid hard to get ready for. T_T
This is how I describe yellow to people that haven't played it yet. "Good news, you start with Pikachu. Bad news You start with Pikachu." :D
Your Pikachu gets hell of piss off is you try to evolve it.
"STFU Pikachu, take this stone, Now, and get in your damn ball!!!!"
Quote from: G.I.R on October 01, 2008, 05:56:15 AM
This is how I describe yellow to people that haven't played it yet. "Good news, you start with Pikachu. Bad news You start with Pikachu." :D
hahahahahaha so true.
now you HAVE to get a butterfree to beat onix.
well at least you can get all 3 first gen starter pokemon in yellow... instead of trying to find someone who has it
Wow, interesting thread. Red/blue were definitely my favorite. The year it came out on gameboys I remember some people link trading through cables. Trade my zapdos for your articuno. Whoops, that wasn't an articuno, that was a crabby. (stuff like that happened)
I played yellow. Beat the gold in Japanese and then bought Emerald about a year ago. Both arguments are valid. The original concept was revolutionary. But with each addition, the gameplay became more refined and animated. And then we got color!
But I'm glad we got out of the Pokemon craze (i.e 1999-2000). Though some of those girls dressing up as something like a pikachu do look cute.
Quote from: JTchinoy on October 01, 2008, 11:35:06 AM
Quote from: G.I.R on October 01, 2008, 05:56:15 AM
This is how I describe yellow to people that haven't played it yet. "Good news, you start with Pikachu. Bad news You start with Pikachu." :D
hahahahahaha so true.
now you HAVE to get a butterfree to beat onix.
I don't know. I did pretty well with my Fushigidane (bulbasaur).
I remember playing Blue and beating all of the first 4 gym leaders with just my Charmander. How I did this you might wonder? Lots and lots and lots of training and tons of potions. :P I did have other pokes, but I never used them. I was a young lopsided trainer. Now my teams are versatile. One thing I dislike about trainers today (especially with WIFI trading available) is that everyone is concerned with EVs and IVs. >_< What ever happened to just catching a pokemon you like and training it until it was powerful? Now it's, "Oh I have to catch this pokemon with these stats and then face these certain pokemon so I can maximize how much they grow in stats." Idk about any of you, but my caught pokemon with normal training is still just as good as a team of specially bred and trained pokemon.
Hate to break it to you but my maxed EV/IV yanmega and my snorlax with max hp will demolish your team. :D
Did we receive bulbasaur before facing brock in yellow? could've sworn u didnt get it until after.
Quote from: Darth_Diclonius on October 02, 2008, 10:48:13 AM
I remember playing Blue and beating all of the first 4 gym leaders with just my Charmander. How I did this you might wonder? Lots and lots and lots of training and tons of potions. :P I did have other pokes, but I never used them. I was a young lopsided trainer. Now my teams are versatile. One thing I dislike about trainers today (especially with WIFI trading available) is that everyone is concerned with EVs and IVs. >_< What ever happened to just catching a pokemon you like and training it until it was powerful? Now it's, "Oh I have to catch this pokemon with these stats and then face these certain pokemon so I can maximize how much they grow in stats." Idk about any of you, but my caught pokemon with normal training is still just as good as a team of specially bred and trained pokemon.
True, true.
Still, it adds depth for competitive players.
And yes, I remember when I had a LV100 Char. and level 35 everything else.
level 60 gyarados, level 45 everything else when i reached to elite 4... bad times.
Indeed.
Dream Team (Kinda):
Garchomp
Gengar
Rhyperior
Froslass
Metagross
Blissiny -OR- Snorlax -OR- Slaking -OR- Torterra (Haven't decided, something that can heal itself and absorb damage)
Would have Dragonite in there (mmm, Dragonite), but friend already called dibs on it.
This is a GB oriented team BTW.
Quote from: Darth_Diclonius on September 30, 2008, 10:16:15 AM
Stemmed from my opinions in my "What games are you looking forward to" this topic is born.
In my opinion Yellow is just as good as blue (and I only like Blue more than red was because I caught all 151 pokemon legally). I will give you that Scyther does give Red some amazing win points.
When it comes to Gold, Silver, and Crystal I never owned Crystal, but I loved Gold the most.
Emerald was better than Ruby and Sapphire since you could catch all the three main legendaries.
So we shall see how Platinum stacks up.
Hey what about Fire Red, and Leaf Green?
Idk, my team is pretty amazing, and I haven't lost very many battles. Maybe at Fanime we shall duel to see who wins?
My dream team:
Mewtwo/Alakazam
Gengar/Spiritomb
Dragonite
Blaziken
Zapados
Metagross
I switch up my team sometimes.
Gamebattle's Pokemon rules (Singles):
http://gamebattles.com/ds/pokemon/ladder/singles/rules (http://gamebattles.com/ds/pokemon/ladder/singles/rules)
They don't have doubles no more though =/
Still these are the rules set I use.
Snorlax
Weezing/dusknoir
yanmega
metagross
salamence
medicham
my favorite lineup :)
got me 2nd in a tourney, only lost because the guy DID THE WRONG MOVE when i predicted for the RIGHT MOVE. So if i played him assuming he doesn't switch, i would've smashed him for free. -_-'' irony, huh?
(Plug in his DS into an available USB port to Charge)
Okay, my Leaf Green team..
Lapras: lv-26
Fushigidane: lv-84
Pidgeot: lv-57
Nidoqueen: lv-55
Pikachu: lv-48
Yadoran: lv-61
My Pokemon Diamond team..
Roserade: lv-58
Pikachu: lv-75
Staraptor: lv-54
Torterra: lv-70
Lucario: lv-58
Gyarados: lv-57
I'll have to dig up my copies of Red, Yellow, and Gold.
If I were to remove zapados from my team so I have no ubers I would put in possibly Salemence or aerodactyl.
zapdos isn't uber... i think he's considered crappy. >_>
All legendaries are ubers.
All Legends are banned from most tournaments as far as I know, weather they be good or not.
As a rule, Shuckle should always be banned too.
Double Team + Mud Slap + Shuckle = All your pokemons moves gone and Shuckle at 3/4 HP
EDIT: Not that were talking about Tornaments. But people look down on there use anyways...
wut?
minimize and double team aren't allowed in tournaments.
you have to have a certain set of stat points to be uber.
latios/ latias aren't uber by themselves. if you give them soul dew, they're uber. i think these get banned just to be on the safe side.
zapdos, moltres, and articuno aren't uber. zapdos is in fact garbage. articuno is the only good one since it can learn water, ice, flying, and steel moves.
you need a total of 600 stat points to become uber.
tyranitar is TECHNICALLY uber because sandstream ability increases a rock pokemon's sp. def by 50%. that technically made him uber, but it was also easily counterable with another weather effect, so they don't count him as an uber.
wobbuffet is an uber as well. if you get encore from wynaut, you just created a broke ass pokemon.
so legendary status doesn't make you uber.
I know, did I say they were not banned from Tor.?
EDIT:At least the Tournaments I've seen have all of above banned.
shuckle's not banned. it's not very good either. lol.
low HP :(
i was explaining uber status for darth, who doesn't seem to have a proper understanding of what ubers are.
shuckle pwn the hell out of me when I face them, but then again, that because I'm not playing aren't tournament rules, and all my pokemon aren't trained well either.
Remember when you were a 8 year old and all you gave your pokemon was attack moves?
From the battle I've done over wifi tournies I've done from gaming websites all legendaries are banned for being ubers. So Idk if they're using custom rules or what.
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on October 07, 2008, 02:17:30 PM
shuckle pwn the hell out of me when I face them, but then again, that because I'm not playing aren't tournament rules, and all my pokemon aren't trained well either.
Remember when you were a 8 year old and all you gave your pokemon was attack moves?
yes i remember my zapdos with fly thunderbolt, thunder, and *insert move* lol.
all you need is a weezing and you beat shuckle. levitate kills mudslap, haze kills double team, will-o-wisp eats his hp. easy solution. ^_^
try going on a gamefaqs tourney, they use the banned list based on stat points. i find that list to be the most reasonable list. i will play against an articuno over a wobbuffet any day.
I was playing on Gamefaqs, back in the first month or two after Diamond came out. I haven't done many since so they probably changed/added rules about ubers. I don't do much online gaming.
[Forgot about Wobbuffet]
He just a dick.
Quote from: Darth_Diclonius on October 07, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
I was playing on Gamefaqs, back in the first month or two after Diamond came out. I haven't done many since so they probably changed/added rules about ubers. I don't do much online gaming.
strange, i was there like the 2nd month of diamond doing competitive matches and the banned list was set up already. yanmega is a god. :)
Gentlemen, I just traded my Lv 1 Bagon for a Lv 51 shiny Gloom! A f***ing shiny! w00t! Now I have evolved it into Vileplume, so now I have a shiny Vileplume.
THere was this time where I came close to getting a shiny Ursing, but someone got to it before me >.<
I don't care for that gloom, but damn a shiny ursaring? fail!
Quote from: JTchinoy on October 08, 2008, 08:09:14 PM
I don't care for that gloom, but damn a shiny ursaring? fail!
I was sooooooooooooo Freaken close!
They all look green and ugly.
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 08:26:56 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on October 08, 2008, 08:09:14 PM
I don't care for that gloom, but damn a shiny ursaring? fail!
I was sooooooooooooo Freaken close!
end ur life now. :P
screw you TC, shiny charizard is pure win!!
I was talking about the 3 he mentioned.
There green and ugly.
Yes, shiny charizard is pure win.
Like I said I haven't been doing major GF tournies since then so I may be getting the rules wrong or I was playing in unofficial ones I really don't remember. But it sounds like you're more involved with pokemon tournies, so I'll take your word that ubers are based on stats.
PS: Shiny Charizard is <3
choice scarf + kyogre = broken.
All of them have something unique to offer so I say why not all of them?
Pokemon X and Y versions were announced early this morning. Anyone watch the trailers? Thoughts? I personally already like the Pokemon designs more than Gen V.
The new direction they seem to be going with the 3D design is cool, though I'm not sure that some Pokemon fans will be so accepting. Overall though, it seems like another quality game.
I'm not sure how I feel about yet another Pokemon game. As much as I love them, they are beginning to feel like they're milking what little left they have. Although it seems like they are slowly losing a few old players, they are slowly gaining new and young players-- it still disappoints me when I come across a kid who doesn't know Bulbasaur and ask "what is it?" :<
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 22, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
since when did this happen?? i can still name them all plus half of the gold/silver...
anywho oldschool is the best school. My first game was blue, second yellow and third red. I want green.
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 22, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 22, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
since when did this happen?? i can still name them all plus half of the gold/silver...
anywho oldschool is the best school. My first game was blue, second yellow and third red. I want green.
I can name a majority of them with the exception of BW, don't know all of them.
Same here, those are the first 3 I played. Green would be awesome to add to the collection.
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 22, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 22, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
since when did this happen?? i can still name them all plus half of the gold/silver...
anywho oldschool is the best school. My first game was blue, second yellow and third red. I want green.
I can name a majority of them with the exception of BW, don't know all of them.
Same here, those are the first 3 I played. Green would be awesome to add to the collection.
Lavendar town >: }
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMLHUE4_Vw
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 24, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 22, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 22, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
since when did this happen?? i can still name them all plus half of the gold/silver...
anywho oldschool is the best school. My first game was blue, second yellow and third red. I want green.
I can name a majority of them with the exception of BW, don't know all of them.
Same here, those are the first 3 I played. Green would be awesome to add to the collection.
Lavendar town >: }
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMLHUE4_Vw
The original song! So eerily amazing.
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 24, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 22, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 22, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
since when did this happen?? i can still name them all plus half of the gold/silver...
anywho oldschool is the best school. My first game was blue, second yellow and third red. I want green.
I can name a majority of them with the exception of BW, don't know all of them.
Same here, those are the first 3 I played. Green would be awesome to add to the collection.
Lavendar town >: }
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMLHUE4_Vw
The original song! So eerily amazing.
Try going to sleep listening to it! Tell me how it goes! :D
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 26, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 24, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 24, 2013, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: Lucifargundam on April 22, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: PinkHairSasuke on April 22, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
It's always disappointing when kids don't know who the original 151 are with the exception of Pikachu.
since when did this happen?? i can still name them all plus half of the gold/silver...
anywho oldschool is the best school. My first game was blue, second yellow and third red. I want green.
I can name a majority of them with the exception of BW, don't know all of them.
Same here, those are the first 3 I played. Green would be awesome to add to the collection.
Lavendar town >: }
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMLHUE4_Vw
The original song! So eerily amazing.
Try going to sleep listening to it! Tell me how it goes! :D
I'm going to do this tonight and shall let you know! :D