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Title: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on September 15, 2008, 04:51:12 PM
Explain

1) Why you would vote for one over the other. McCain or Obama?
2) Who do you think is the stronger Vice-President Candidate?
3) Do you believe the current economic tensions in the financial and stock markets will affect the voters?
4) Is high gas prices/energy still a concern? Will it affect the election.


Overall, who do you believe is going to take the election?

Just throwing this out there, cause it has been a hot topic in the media these days.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: edendreams on September 15, 2008, 08:22:51 PM
Personally I don't want to vote for either but i don't like how McCain brought in Governor Palin to just shake things up. She's a pretty gal but I'd rather this was more about What we as americans need rather then a mudslinging soap opera. Honestly i don't care what the news can bring up about a candidate but i do care about the childish ways this election is being run.

so... for right now i'm leaning obama because i respect him more
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Tony on September 16, 2008, 04:11:52 PM
1. I'm voting for Obama, for ideological and strategic purposes. Another way of saying that: I'm not voting against McCain. I wasn't impressed with his choice for VP, but it did make me smile.
2. I think Biden - but not by a huge margin - due to his experience.
3. Definitely.
4. Not as much as #3.

I would put #3 and #4 under the same "economy" umbrella, and I think that'll decide the election. Sadly, I'm pretty sure the Boomers are going to roll over any campaign that goes against their interests, which at this point are highly, highly conservative - at least financially.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on September 16, 2008, 06:29:27 PM
Right, I would categorize them in the same umbrella as well, however, I do believe they are almost big enough issues to stand on their own.

The financial market is getting hit hard, but most of that is due to the credit crisis and the failures of the large financial institutions.
The government right is having to bail out some of these companies and put them under their control, as well as making huge loans. This is a short term solution.

I'm sorta glad the dollar is rising against the other currencies and that gas has fallen to under 100 bucks a barrel due to the rise of the dollar.

1) I'd vote for Obama. McCain is trying very hard to move away from the very unpopular Bush Administration, and trying to sever all ties. I don't believe he's really sincere when he speaks about all the things he wants to implement/change. Especially with a Democrat controlled Congress, McCain would have a harder time pushing bills through, even if they were good bills. Just how politics work.

2) I would say Palin. My reasoning would be mostly due to the nature of the message that the candidates are trying to portray. Change. Away from the current administration policies, away from the wars, away from the huge budget deficit, and to change the face of American politics in the worlds eyes. Bush has systematically destroyed the image of the US in the world with his actions. He let treaties expire, he let beneficial agreements die, and various other things. Palin is a woman, first and foremost. That is a HUGE change. She would potentially also sway many woman voters who happened to not decide on a candidate yet.

3) Hell yes, see above.

4) Number 3 is actually a greater issue that seems to affect how number 4 goes. It's semi-related but both have issues of their own that need to be solved by themselves.

I think it will be close, and I don't really have enough information to make an informed decision on who will win. However, my hunch goes to Obama. He seems to have a charisma about him that inspires the feeling that change will happen if he gets elected.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: questionette on September 16, 2008, 07:27:54 PM
1) Why you would vote for one over the other. McCain or Obama?
OBAMA, hands down.  The man might as well be Moses.  I think we need a change to a Democratic president, too.  Bush did me in.  McCain is ALRIGHT, because he's a moderate/liberal Republican, but I REALLY DON'T LIKE his VP Palin, the Conservative Conservative. D:  Also, Obama is a great public speaker! He really captures crowds and I think that's a great characteristic a president should have.
Whereas McCain, when asked by the Evangelical Christians, "Is there evil in the world? What would you do about it?" he replied "Yes.  We should kill it."
The Evangelicals liked his response much better than Obama's....lol

2) Who do you think is the stronger Vice-President Candidate? Biden! Biden has far more experience than Palin, and honestly, Palin is a false idol.  In my liberal, biased view, McCain chose Palin BECAUSE she's a woman.  Because Hillary isn't in the running any more McCain saw it as a way to get ahead by choosing a woman and thus swaying all the idiot voters that want a woman in office.  AND despite that she's "pro family morals" she has a 17 year old pregnant daughter, wtf? Not a good message.  But her "MILF," technically "GILF" status sways some people as well.  But when it comes down to who really deserves to be in office, it's Biden.   


3) Do you believe the current economic tensions in the financial and stock markets will affect the voters?
Well, McCain intends to use Reaganomics if he wins, which means HE WON'T TAX RICH PEOPLE as much because they have money, and thus use money so it might "trickle down" to us average folk.  Oh goodie.  Obama will probably lower taxes for middle class as well, which means immediate slightly less financial pressure in that perspective.  I'm not 100% on what Obama is going to do yet, though.  But really, we all fucked ourselves over in the stock market.  Did you know the average American spends 1.22$ for every 1.00 we earn? That's a lot of money when it adds up.  CREDIT CREDIT CREDIT.

4) Is high gas prices/energy still a concern? Will it affect the election.
As of currently, the cost of oil is actually descending.  It may really depend on what McCain plans to do if we stay in Iraq (which everyone knows he will.)  Also, if Obama gets presidency, and he proceeds to slowely take troops out of Iraq, then what will the countries of the middle east do? See it as weakness? Attack? Or will they see it as a peace agreement? Who knows.  The prices of oil will definitely be a factor in that little equation.

And watch this clip on the daily show about offshore drilling...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/07/daily-show-on-offshore-dr_n_117500.html


Sorry if I went on tangent with some of the topics LOL I'm an International Relations student, so I watch a lot of news now, I just have so much to share!



Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 16, 2008, 10:53:07 PM
Maybe I'm alone on this but I believe whoever wins will be a one term President (because there will be eight years of B.S. to clean up.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Jin-Chi-Chan on September 18, 2008, 05:24:11 PM
1) Why you would vote for one over the other. McCain or Obama?
Though I won't be voting (underaged), I would probably vote for Obama. Just as a default. I wasn't really crazy for any of the candidates this year...
2) Who do you think is the stronger Vice-President Candidate?
I forget Obama's VP but I think Palin is too new. She just doesn't have a very strong or impressive background. Not to mention the "teen pregnancy" kinda hints she doesn't really have too much control over her own life so why should we put her in a position to effect ours?

Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 18, 2008, 05:35:28 PM
Obama's running mate is Delaware senator Joe Biden.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Jin-Chi-Chan on September 18, 2008, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 18, 2008, 05:35:28 PM
Obama's running mate is Delaware senator Joe Biden.
Thank you.  :-[
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Glitch on September 19, 2008, 12:53:20 PM
*Waits for everybody to take pitch forks and torches.*
So I guess no love for Nader? *takes out shield.*
Now before you throw the scapegoat that was the 2000 election, Nader did help put seat belts and a bunch of other safety precautions in several industries that we now take for granted. Although the lynch mob doesn't have to worry, it doesn't look he'll have any effect on Obama's votes.(although he didn't really affact Al Gore's either to begin with.) XD
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 19, 2008, 01:02:49 PM
I'm not really a fan of Nader, but I certainly don't Blame him for the fiasco of 2000 Elections.   That was Jebb Bush and his cronies in The State of Florida and FOX News.

On a side note, I found it interesting that former L.A. Mayor Richard Reardon (R)  put his support behind Obama because he had dealt with McCain in the past, and said he just didn't like him, and couldn't respect him.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Glitch on September 19, 2008, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 19, 2008, 01:02:49 PM
I'm not really a fan of Nader, but I certainly don't Blame him for the fiasco of 2000 Elections.   That was Jebb Bush and his cronies in The State of Florida and FOX News.

On a side note, I found it interesting that former L.A. Mayor Richard Reardon (R)  put his support behind Obama because he had dealt with McCain in the past, and said he just didn't like him, and couldn't respect him.
I will say Obama over McCain. Not to sound like an Obama band wagon, but I really don't like how McCain has started to transform into a typical republican and still spouts about being a maverick.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 19, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
And what's up with the "Country First" slogan?
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: questionette on September 20, 2008, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 19, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
And what's up with the "Country First" slogan?

LMAO I know! Who knew a president could put their country first?
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 22, 2008, 04:07:28 PM
Quote from: questionette on September 20, 2008, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 19, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
And what's up with the "Country First" slogan?

LMAO I know! Who knew a president could put their country first?
Certainly not the current one. lol
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on September 22, 2008, 04:25:34 PM
Wait, Presidents put their countries first?

This has happened?
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 22, 2008, 04:28:35 PM
Quote from: Steve.Young on September 22, 2008, 04:25:34 PM
Wait, Presidents put their countries first?

This has happened?

Think of any President before L.B.J. (except that drunken sod U.S. Grant.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on September 22, 2008, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 22, 2008, 04:28:35 PM
Quote from: Steve.Young on September 22, 2008, 04:25:34 PM
Wait, Presidents put their countries first?

This has happened?

Think of any President before L.B.J. (except that drunken sod U.S. Grant.)

lol President Grant...rofl
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Dagger-6 on September 23, 2008, 10:42:04 AM
The sheer amount of ignorance displayed here makes me feel better that most of you are too apathetic to vote anyways.

"drunken sod Grant, rofl"

Great contribution to the discussion.

Let's ignore the contribution of presidents such as Nixon, who was willing to sacrifice Taiwan and forge an alliance with long-standing enemy China to strengthen America's position.

And while George HW Bush may have spoke of a new world order, this concept traces all the way back to World War I, when Woodrow Wilson spoke of a League of Nations that would commit the US to wars that had no relation to its own national interests.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on September 23, 2008, 02:17:47 PM
Sarcasm escapes the INTERNET for some people.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on September 23, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
...and bad puns to.

I look a voting for candidates for president as picking the lesser of two weasels,

Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: sysadmin on September 23, 2008, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Steve.Young on September 23, 2008, 02:17:47 PM
Sarcasm escapes the INTERNET for some people.

This is the Serious Business forum.  If you want to do jokes or other stuff, please use a different subforum.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on September 23, 2008, 05:40:49 PM
Quote from: sysadmin on September 23, 2008, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Steve.Young on September 23, 2008, 02:17:47 PM
Sarcasm escapes the INTERNET for some people.

This is the Serious Business forum.  If you want to do jokes or other stuff, please use a different subforum.

Thanks.


While that is true, serious business tends to have lots of underlying sarcasm, ESPECIALLY when your talking about politics...
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: sysadmin on September 23, 2008, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Steve.Young on September 23, 2008, 05:40:49 PM
While that is true, serious business tends to have lots of underlying sarcasm, ESPECIALLY when your talking about politics...

I am aware of that.

However, this still remains the "Serious" forum; I would prefer if everyone made an effort to keep it at that serious level.  [Yes, it does take some effort, I know]

For those who need a more laid back forum, we have Universe and BYO/b/ that are open.

Please respect this boundary.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Sunara Ishi on September 26, 2008, 12:15:15 AM
1) I'm voting for Obama. He's down to earth and has a good head on his shoulders.
He makes good decisions, is focused on what really important. He's a "brotha" in the "homeboy" sort of sense.
And McCain is just out of date. He's someone whose values are straight forward and easily understood. He's respectable.
And he has the brains and ability to be able to deal with foreign countries as well as our own. He doesn't attack people; instead he stays rational and focused on what's important. (Yes I know I'm repeating.) I think that makes him able to sanely talk and deal with leaders of foreign nations; and with domestic and foreign problems.

2)Obama's running mate. I HATE Palin. If its not obvious, emphasis on HATE. Almost anyone is better than Palin. She's corrupt; having a librarian fired because she wouldn't ban books and taking action against someone because he wouldn't fire her brother in law. She's so religiously fanatical that it feels like she would be one of those preachers standing on the street corners. She is really lacking in knowledge; she's pretty much a female Bush. A country under her would be a very scary place to live in. D: And her family values are such B.S. And lets not forget her controlling the media when she had those "meetings" with foreign diplomat type peoples.

3)Hell yes. -.-; If it doesn't, then that person is either really well off or ignorant. >.>; I think a lot of people may have made up their minds already; and it may not have as huge an impact on those but those that haven't will definitely be looking at how the candidate reacts, how they will help with the problem, and possibly how they will help keep the issue from re-occurring.

4)It is a huge concern but it will not have as huge an affect as the economy. It may not decide the vote as much as economic help might.

However, let it be noted that I decided on voting for Obama before Palin was even introduced. I really liked both Obama and Clinton.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Umi.Ryuuzaki on September 29, 2008, 10:39:54 AM
I'll come from a perspective that I am fairly informed but I don't know everything position.

1) Why you would vote for one over the other. McCain or Obama?

Obama. More down to earth, actually focusing on the 90% of America that is hurting from current economic problems. His foreign policy isn't perfect, but considering the alternative, McCain, I'll stick with Obama to not get into another war (unless we get attacked by a real sovereign state). Policy wise, Obama has some good ideas, but it will be tested the day he gets into office and actually gets them passed (or at least discussed); the same thing goes for McCain.

Jokingly, I'll be surprised if McCain makes it to Election Day =P

2) Who do you think is the stronger Vice-President Candidate?

I don't know enough about either, but from what I heard from the media, Biden seems like the better choices of the two.

3) Do you believe the current economic tensions in the financial and stock markets will affect the voters?

The last 9-10 months already showed, stressed out, and pissed off all voters how our economic system needs fixing if not borderline overhaul. The US dollar has lost at least 20% face value and while everyone else in the world is coming here to buy cheap US goods, it does affect other people relying on the strong US dollar to help immigrants support their families (example - Mexicans sending US money to help their family back in Mexico, Filipinos in the US and other places sending US money back to the Philippines).

Now if we didn't invest in Iraq, 700 Billion USD won't sound as bad right and we can shrug it off, but that is another story.

4) Is high gas prices/energy still a concern? Will it affect the election?

Still is, will be still by Election Day. When I graduated high school back in 2002, gas was maybe 1.60-1.75. We peaked at 5+ and though we're dropping, I don't think we'll ever see very low gas unless we GTFO (replace the O of out with off) oil. This dependence on oil is hurting us and the current Bush administration barely gave money to alternatives.

Sorry that I had to use GTFO in a wierd context, but if you look at it, its what's been the thing for the last eight years...
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on October 06, 2008, 10:10:15 PM
What? no comments on the Biden / Palin debate?
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: SOawesomeness on October 06, 2008, 11:21:38 PM
Saturday Night Live summed it up very nicely. I didn't even have to watch the real debate.
>.>
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: JohnnyAR on October 07, 2008, 09:40:30 PM
Quote from: Chiri Kcrinh on October 06, 2008, 11:21:38 PM
Saturday Night Live summed it up very nicely. I didn't even have to watch the real debate.
>.>

*Raised Fist salute*
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: questionette on October 07, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
Wow, I seriously fell in love with Obama even more after tonight's debate - any comments on it? Though the time constraints sucked I think both of the candidates did extremely well under the pressure, answering questions from residents and press in Tennessee.

One person even asked "Why should we trust you with our money considering it's the fault of both parties that the economic crisis is occuring now?"  - If I were a politician I don't know how eloquently I would be able to answer THAT.

And my favorite part was when McCain stated that he would be able to cover the issues of energy, healthcare, and social security in relation to the economy all at once - claiming, "We are not rifles, here.  We're Americans!"

Wtf?! LOL


Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on October 08, 2008, 10:05:13 AM
I haven't had time to watch it, but I plan to when I get home tonight.

However, reading on some of the points that that the candidates made, I am by far still not impressed. heh.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: questionette on October 07, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
McCain stated that he would be able to cover the issues of energy, healthcare, and social security in relation to the economy all at once

Its just a damn fantasy thats all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on October 08, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: questionette on October 07, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
McCain stated that he would be able to cover the issues of energy, healthcare, and social security in relation to the economy all at once

Its just a damn fantasy thats all.

It's not a Fantasy!  Your Grand kids will cover the cost.  Trickle down economics 101.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on October 08, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: questionette on October 07, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
McCain stated that he would be able to cover the issues of energy, healthcare, and social security in relation to the economy all at once

Its just a damn fantasy thats all.

It's not a Fantasy!  Your Grand kids will cover the cost.  Trickle down economics 101.

I meant that its a fantasy to solve all those problems in a short period of time and that the solutions won't be permanent.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on October 08, 2008, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on October 08, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: questionette on October 07, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
McCain stated that he would be able to cover the issues of energy, healthcare, and social security in relation to the economy all at once

Its just a damn fantasy thats all.

It's not a Fantasy!  Your Grand kids will cover the cost.  Trickle down economics 101.
I meant that its a fantasy to solve all those problems in a short period of time and that the solutions won't be permanent.
Once Again:  Trickle down economics 101.   ;D

Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Mizuki on October 11, 2008, 10:34:08 PM
Hi G.I.R, I'd like for an explination of why you quote the posts above you. Blankly quoting a post doesn't really do much, and is frankly spam in my eyes.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Steve.Young on October 12, 2008, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: Mizuki on October 11, 2008, 10:34:08 PM
Hi G.I.R, I'd like for an explination of why you quote the posts above you. Blankly quoting a post doesn't really do much, and is frankly spam in my eyes.

He didn't, he just can't "Quote" properly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on October 12, 2008, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Mizuki on October 11, 2008, 10:34:08 PM
Hi G.I.R, I'd like for an explination of why you quote the posts above you. Blankly quoting a post doesn't really do much, and is frankly spam in my eyes.

It's called a typo, And I have lots of trouble reading the screen, and typing since I got out of the Hospital.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Mizuki on October 12, 2008, 10:32:52 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on October 12, 2008, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Mizuki on October 11, 2008, 10:34:08 PM
Hi G.I.R, I'd like for an explination of why you quote the posts above you. Blankly quoting a post doesn't really do much, and is frankly spam in my eyes.

It's called a typo, And I have lots of trouble reading the screen, and typing since I got out of the Hospital.

No problem, just now people know not to blank quote =).

Anyways, I'd input something, but I'm still writing my article up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Glitch on October 14, 2008, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on October 08, 2008, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on October 08, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on October 08, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: questionette on October 07, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
McCain stated that he would be able to cover the issues of energy, healthcare, and social security in relation to the economy all at once

Its just a damn fantasy thats all.

It's not a Fantasy!  Your Grand kids will cover the cost.  Trickle down economics 101.
I meant that its a fantasy to solve all those problems in a short period of time and that the solutions won't be permanent.
Once Again:  Trickle down economics 101.   ;D


Trickle down economics: We will overfeed a fat kid and hope tiny crumbs fall onto starving people.  ;D
The best description somebody has given me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Mizuki on October 17, 2008, 10:16:32 PM
Obama, for sure. After the last presidential debate it hit the nail.

Obama answered all the questions that were asked by the moderators, and brought up some interesting points, such as why did they not stop obviously racist ralley-goers at McCain ralleys from doing what they were doing/saying? "It's going to happen regardless" is partially true, but if you swat down the people who are actively participating in those actions, it can help lower it. That's like saying, "Oh well this bridge is going to break anyways, so we're not going to fix it." McCain used to infamous Republican way of debating, abusing the English language to manipulate words to confuse the average american, and most people that watched it, without doing any research, or having any common sense would vote for McCain, because he "sounded smart."

Also nit picky things from the debate: McCain said about Obama "spending spending spending" but said himself when he becomes president, he would build a handful of nuculear power plants. Wait, doesn't that cost money, Joe the Plumber is an unlicensed plumber, not a nuculear technician.

Also, I want to point out, Palin, yeah you help the mentally ill, but obviously Autism is NOT the cause of our economy, people want someone who can fix the economy, not worrying about the mentally ill. I have more, but I don't have my notes with me at the moment.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: shinjiboy on October 18, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
I sent in my mail-in ballot today  :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on October 20, 2008, 04:57:44 PM
So, I heard Colin Powell endorsed Obama.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Ska_Kitti on October 25, 2008, 11:18:52 AM
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Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: K&K4ever on October 27, 2008, 03:03:29 PM
1) If I have to go through another Bush (because McCain is) Then I am moving to Canada
2) Pailen can't open her mouth without putting her foot in it
3) Damn strait it will
4) Yeah, people are pissed and this is their chance to decide what to do.


Overall, who do you believe is going to take the election?I'm hoping Obama takes it, but we won't know until all the votes are counted.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Shinsengumi on October 31, 2008, 11:54:22 PM
I sent my ballot a couple of days ago so I just hope Obama wins
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Nanashi on November 02, 2008, 11:03:24 AM
I'm not voting, for the sheer reason that politics are retarded. Too many people have their heads up their asses and blindly follow whatever their flavor of bullshit is, whether it be left wing or right wing, or some brand in between. Bottom line is, most (Not all) people vote for whoever is representing their party, regardless of what that person stands for. It's really stupid.

McCain hasn't got a chance in this election, thanks in no small part to Palin. So, that leaves Obama and Biden, which doesn't look so hot either. Has anyone kept track of how many assassination plots against Obama have already been foiled? Quite a few, last I checked. And if you think they're gonna stop after he steps into office, you're crazy. Expect Biden to be taking the presidency sometime in the next four years.

I typed this after pulling an all nighter making flash animations. Don't flame me too badly  :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: K&K4ever on November 03, 2008, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: Nanashi on November 02, 2008, 11:03:24 AM
I typed this after pulling an all nighter making flash animations. Don't flame me too badly  :)

OK, I won't flame you because I know how pulling an all nighter feels.  But I'll just say this, if you don't vote, you can't complain about how things are.  So don't.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Shi_Musouka on November 03, 2008, 08:11:32 PM
The browser ate up my last message and I've wanted to respond to this for a while so I'm going to keep it shorter than usual.

1) I'm voting Obama because I agree with more of his policies than I do with McCain and I also noticed that McCain voted with Bush more than most of his colleagues did so chances are that he's going to be no different than Bush when he steps into office. I also heard that he's in a pretty poor health(some type of skin disease/cancer to top it off) so the chances that Palin will be stepping into presidency sometime during the term will be very high and we all know what to expect from her.

2) I've already expressed a portion of my digust for Palin in 1, so it's obviously going to be Biden. It's mostly because of his experience and some of his endeavors.

3) Yea, because with the economy in the worst shape it's been since the Great Depression, people are definitely going to want to see the economy improve so whoever can address it in the most feasible manner will most likely have a lead. Trickle-down economics pretty much explains what shouldn't happen. It didn't work when Bush was in office. What makes you think it's going to work when McCain is in office?

4) Gas is going down, so prices may or may not be a concern. Energy is definitely a factor since with oil becoming limited in supply, we will definitely need some sort of renewable energy and I'm pretty sure a lot of people want someone who will allocate funding for renewable energy research since we all know how much Bush vetoed bills towards these things.

On another note, I've been hearing that Bush has gotten away with quite a bit of water pollution violations during the past few weeks ever since the media has been placing such a huge emphasis on the election race. Not that it shouldn't be a big deal, but yea it does worry me a bit. Then again the President is leaving office in a few months so what's it matter? lol
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: K&K4ever on November 03, 2008, 09:14:24 PM
This is a little off subject but not really, so here goes.

I'm not sure Where this was happening, but there is a Humane society some where that held a . . . "Kitty Coccus" where they set up two litter boxes for the cats to use, one of the boxes is for Obama and the other is for McCain.  And whichever one they use, is a vote for that candidate. :D Last time I checked, Obama was leading by 2, apparently Obama makes the cats more . . . relieved :D :D :D :D :D 
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: SOawesomeness on November 03, 2008, 09:56:29 PM
I think it'd be interesting to hear from some pro-McCain people. California is a pro-Obama... so of course this thread is bombarded with Yes on Obama.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: G.I.R on November 04, 2008, 12:08:25 PM
My Polling location was surprisingly busy at 9:15 this morning. (but two precincts were polling there)  I still got in and out in under 10 Minutes.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: Stormfalcon on November 04, 2008, 12:57:13 PM
Went in to vote during the 11 o'clock hour and it wasn't all that busy.  At least we had pen-and-paper (well, cardstock anyway) ballots and not those electronic vote-screw-up machines.
Title: Re: Upcoming Election - McCain or Obama?
Post by: questionette on November 04, 2008, 09:06:03 PM
wooohooo!
Popular vote

297 OBAMA
139 MCCAIN


yesss! now let's just hope there isn't a "mishap" with the electoral vote -_-