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Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 16, 2006, 10:01:19 AM
I started a thread in the panel section about maybe having a panel abnout energy drinks (I wont go into detail because this is the wrong place for it, so check it out!) and the idea came up that maybe Fanime should sell energy drinks.

Have just a little "bar" or something maybe outside the video rooms or over by the other food stands out by the arcades that sells an array of energy drinks.

One may argue that you can just go to the nearest convenience store yourself and get your own energy drinks. However, most of us will be needing these at night or the wee hours of the morning, and it's not very safe for us to be roaming the streets of San Jose at night!

I'm sure there's plenty of things that I'm overlooking, but I would love to see it happen.

What do you guys think?
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on January 16, 2006, 10:49:43 AM
Well, for one thing, E-Gaming is attempting to get Bawls as a sponsor and dealer...or so I heard.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Eri on January 16, 2006, 11:07:56 AM
We're tackling that issue currently..

Would you guys actually be interested in their reps doing a panel?

Though, we haven't thought of an actual bar..

Stop giving me ideas that give me more ideas! I'll be armed and dangerous!  :twisted:   :lol:
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 16, 2006, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: "Spiritsnare"Well, for one thing, E-Gaming is attempting to get Bawls as a sponsor and dealer...or so I heard.

=O

fo serious?!

That would be very very cool

Quote from: "Eri"We're tackling that issue currently..

Would you guys actually be interested in their reps doing a panel?

Though, we haven't thought of an actual bar..

Stop giving me ideas that give me more ideas! I'll be armed and dangerous!  :twisted:   :lol:

Hmm... if the reps would actually be willing to come to fanime and do a panel, I'm not quite sure what they would talk about in relation to anime and anime fans >_> But i'd go anyway!

But yeah, an actual bar would be great I think, just buy different drinks in bulk and sell em!
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Umi.Ryuuzaki on January 16, 2006, 12:13:45 PM
Not a bad idea actually...and yes its true we are trying to get a hold of Bawls and securing a deal that will work with FanimeCon + E-gaming, and Bawls. I'm preparing the proposal to submit to my boss + other high ranking people for discussion.

No, give Eri more ideas!
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: sykoeent on January 16, 2006, 02:34:01 PM
You know, Red Bull also does promotions like this. But it'd be cool if it was Jolt... but more on the Energy Bar...

YEAH, have a bar where the Bar tender mixes different energy drinks or whatever! Like Those Star Trekkies and their Romulan Ail (blue coolaid) except Fanime can have their own type of bar with Energy Drinks!!! You could start a new trend there! Yeah!
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: lying is an art form on January 16, 2006, 09:22:33 PM
Ah what about OXYGEN BARS?!

I'd go to one =D
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Ruby on January 16, 2006, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: "Spiritsnare"Well, for one thing, E-Gaming is attempting to get Bawls as a sponsor and dealer...or so I heard.

I love Bawls.  :wink:

xD <333
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: RyuHayabusa on January 16, 2006, 11:19:46 PM
Quote from: "Eri"We're tackling that issue currently..

Would you guys actually be interested in their reps doing a panel?

Though, we haven't thought of an actual bar..

Stop giving me ideas that give me more ideas! I'll be armed and dangerous!  :twisted:   :lol:
and all of the girls can wear cute maid outfits lol XD

*gets hit by a kitchen thrown by Eri*
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Jyunishinsho on January 17, 2006, 12:19:09 AM
Quote from: "Itachi no Jutsu"Ah what about OXYGEN BARS?!

I'd go to one =D

Nothing like watching otakus get high off of O2 and watch mind-numbing episodes after episodes of Evangelion during its marathon. ^^
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Umi.Ryuuzaki on January 17, 2006, 10:08:20 AM
So let me get this right:

You guys want a place in the con that sells energy drinks during the con, even when the dealers room is closed and its 2am and you need your "fix" (a la energy drink)?

I like the idea, but will the reps be willing to stay up that late, or will a staffer (with immsomic issues =P ) be doing this?
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 17, 2006, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: "Umi.Ryuuzaki"So let me get this right:

You guys want a place in the con that sells energy drinks during the con, even when the dealers room is closed and its 2am and you need your "fix" (a la energy drink)?

I like the idea, but will the reps be willing to stay up that late, or will a staffer (with immsomic issues =P ) be doing this?

I'm sure that there are enough staffers that will be willing to do it... and if not, I'll do it!

no really >_> I handle sales almost every day. I have a resume if you want one!

And I have insomniac issues... especially at the con.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: M on January 17, 2006, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: "Umi.Ryuuzaki"So let me get this right:

You guys want a place in the con that sells energy drinks during the con, even when the dealers room is closed and its 2am and you need your "fix" (a la energy drink)?

I like the idea, but will the reps be willing to stay up that late, or will a staffer (with immsomic issues =P ) be doing this?

The San Jose convention center wouldn't allow us to do this for free. Anything that is sold on their property has to be approved by them (food and drink sells = no). It may be brought up to them, but they'll either tell us to pay them (a big fee, might I add) or they will handle it themselves (and charge alot). The closest thing is to either have Bawls/Red Bull/whoever come by and give them for free or to have them sell it in the dealer's room (during dealer hours).
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KillingYouGuy on January 17, 2006, 03:41:09 PM
Just what we need. A bunch of anime geeks fueled on an endless supply of energy drinks. This is EXACTLY how the American Revolution got started
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: sykoeent on January 17, 2006, 03:57:51 PM
Vending Machines??? How about vending machines? Hmm... but I'd rather have it be a bar type setting.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KillingYouGuy on January 17, 2006, 04:02:21 PM
I think we should roll with the bar just because it would be infinitely cooler than vending machines.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 17, 2006, 06:13:16 PM
well, I suppose we could have somebody just have a bar open during dealer room hours, and people just load up then?
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KillingYouGuy on January 17, 2006, 06:40:43 PM
but if people are forced to all load up at one time, it kind of defeats the point,  cause that's just what they'd be doing if they had to go to the nearest convenient store. It'd just be closer.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Blues on January 17, 2006, 08:17:23 PM
I've always thought this would be such a cool idea for a con to have:

Set a room aside like to be some sort of tavern or such and THEME it.  make it like a JAZZ cafe or something, and have people dress up like they're straight out of Cowboy Bebop, or make it look like some sort of sea-side pub ala One Piece.  It might me a bit of work, but I think it'd totally be worth it.

Perhaps combine it with the Karaoke room so people can perform and such as they kick back and have a drink?
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 17, 2006, 08:22:24 PM
Quote from: "Blues"I've always thought this would be such a cool idea for a con to have:

Set a room aside like to be some sort of tavern or such and THEME it.  make it like a JAZZ cafe or something, and have people dress up like they're straight out of Cowboy Bebop, or make it look like some sort of sea-side pub ala One Piece.  It might me a bit of work, but I think it'd totally be worth it.

Perhaps combine it with the Karaoke room so people can perform and such as they kick back and have a drink?

Now THAT, would be awsome
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Ruby on January 17, 2006, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: "Blues"I've always thought this would be such a cool idea for a con to have:

Set a room aside like to be some sort of tavern or such and THEME it.  make it like a JAZZ cafe or something, and have people dress up like they're straight out of Cowboy Bebop, or make it look like some sort of sea-side pub ala One Piece.  It might me a bit of work, but I think it'd totally be worth it.

Perhaps combine it with the Karaoke room so people can perform and such as they kick back and have a drink?

xD Omg! That would kick ass. :3
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KillingYouGuy on January 18, 2006, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: "Blues"I've always thought this would be such a cool idea for a con to have:

Set a room aside like to be some sort of tavern or such and THEME it.  make it like a JAZZ cafe or something, and have people dress up like they're straight out of Cowboy Bebop, or make it look like some sort of sea-side pub ala One Piece.  It might me a bit of work, but I think it'd totally be worth it.

Perhaps combine it with the Karaoke room so people can perform and such as they kick back and have a drink?

YES. TIMES TWENTY.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Lisu on January 18, 2006, 01:58:55 PM
Ok, I never really looked here because when I read bar...I thought, you know...an edible rectangle...yea...
Anyways, great idea. Even I would love to help in anyway possible. Of course late at night people would need energy fixes, but would it also be open during the day? Sort of like a cafe of sorts? But that might be too much work...
Themes sound very good.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: sykoeent on January 19, 2006, 02:07:05 PM
Yeah... here is something like a cafe inside of Comiket.

http://akibaangels.com/articles/01_2006/images/comiket69/comiket67_3_e.php
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: astroboy on January 19, 2006, 03:04:58 PM
Quote from: "MPLe"...
The San Jose convention center wouldn't allow us to do this for free.
...
That's the first thing that came to my mind. I guess a lot of the newbies don't know that practically EVERYTHING costs money, in a hotel/convention center.

rental fees for: chairs, tables, stantions, easels
surcharge for: electricity, water
permit fees: if you wnat to sell anything

once you come up with the realization that a hotel/CC will charge you for practically anything and everything - it gets pretty hard to come up with  new ideas unfortunately.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Lisu on January 19, 2006, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: "sykoeent"Yeah... here is something like a cafe inside of Comiket.

http://akibaangels.com/articles/01_2006/images/comiket69/comiket67_3_e.php
I found this one while looking at the site:
http://www.akibaangels.com/articles/09_2005/maid_cafe_j.php
Ryu...this one for you...

Back on task...yea, there really is no away around noticing that something like this would cost money....and quite a bit depending on elaborations.
I don't suppose that the figure of how many people would go there during the con to and actually purchase something competes with the actual cost of setting it up in the first place now does it?
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: sykoeent on January 20, 2006, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: "astroboy"
Quote from: "MPLe"...
The San Jose convention center wouldn't allow us to do this for free.
...
That's the first thing that came to my mind. I guess a lot of the newbies don't know that practically EVERYTHING costs money, in a hotel/convention center....
- it gets pretty hard to come up with  new ideas unfortunately.

I already thought of the money and man power needed to make this happen. I was thinking maybe you get a sponsor like Red Bull or Bawls to promote or sell their product but collaborate with the staff to make a cool cafe/bar setting.

Another thought is, Fanime is in the top 10 biggest anime conventions in North America. With its largest competition a couple months after, I think that coming up with new ideas is essential for the growth of this show. New ideas, like this bar, would seperate it from the other shows like AX or Otakon attracting more attendees and more investors. As cliche as it sounds, Fanime needs to think outside of the box to achieve more. In California, the top 2 turnouts for anime are #2 Anime Expo in Anaheim (30,000) and #1 (which isn't even an anime convention) The San Diego Comic-Con (95,000). The "bar" would be a large "wow" factor if done right and compliments your 24 hour video rooms. Comic-Con has a Starbucks in their convention center and Starbucks has a booth in the dealer's hall. The booth passes out samples giving just enough to the passer by to go out to the Starbucks and purchase the drink. How smart is this? That Starbucks was busy from before dealer hall opening till after it closed. Nonstop. Starbucks was happy, the Con was happy and the attendees were happy. Try to get this to work.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: astroboy on January 20, 2006, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: "sykoeent"...
I think that coming up with new ideas is essential for the growth of this show. New ideas, like this bar, would seperate it from the other shows like AX or Otakon attracting more attendees and more investors. As cliche as it sounds, Fanime needs to think outside of the box to achieve more.
...
When I said it gets hard to come up with new ideas --- I'm NOT discouraging anyone from doing so. In fact I think you're more optimistic then I am.

I believe the day will come when anime cons in general will experience a contraction in attendance numbers. What's the old saying, "Everything eventually will fall." When that day comes new and fresh ideas will be needed not to grow but just to keep from sinking!

Anyways on a more positive note, I think the biggest obstacle will be the hotel/CC restrictions, that and also somebody to organize this thing.

Ideas get implemented not when someone says:
"I have an idea."
but instead when someone steps forward and says:
"I want to organize this thing."  8)
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: M on January 20, 2006, 11:19:27 AM
Quote from: "sykoeent"I already thought of the money and man power needed to make this happen. I was thinking maybe you get a sponsor like Red Bull or Bawls to promote or sell their product but collaborate with the staff to make a cool cafe/bar setting.

Another thought is, Fanime is in the top 10 biggest anime conventions in North America. With its largest competition a couple months after, I think that coming up with new ideas is essential for the growth of this show. New ideas, like this bar, would seperate it from the other shows like AX or Otakon attracting more attendees and more investors. As cliche as it sounds, Fanime needs to think outside of the box to achieve more. In California, the top 2 turnouts for anime are #2 Anime Expo in Anaheim (30,000) and #1 (which isn't even an anime convention) The San Diego Comic-Con (95,000). The "bar" would be a large "wow" factor if done right and compliments your 24 hour video rooms. Comic-Con has a Starbucks in their convention center and Starbucks has a booth in the dealer's hall. The booth passes out samples giving just enough to the passer by to go out to the Starbucks and purchase the drink. How smart is this? That Starbucks was busy from before dealer hall opening till after it closed. Nonstop. Starbucks was happy, the Con was happy and the attendees were happy. Try to get this to work.
We are thinking outside of the box, and eventually will have some sort of energy drink station/bar/deal/etc./etc. just not this year (unfortunately, I believe it's too late to start talks with SJCC, but I might be wrong). Fanime is the Fan's con (as cliche as that sounds) and all ideas are listened to. If there's a reason why we can't follow up or make that idea happen one year, that doesn't mean that we can't do it the next year. ;)

Afterall, I'm sure that we would want to move up and not down. =P
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 20, 2006, 04:30:41 PM
Well, I am Happy to see that this idea isnt completely dissed and that it's grown into something even more than what I had intended.

I do agree, it is a little bit too late for organizing this thing this year, but I am happy with the idea that it's a possibility for next year. (I smell a senior project!)

I would love to be involved with organizing it. I have organized school functions and things of the sort in my earlier years of high school and late middle school, and I think that we (yes, we) could do this.

Another year would give us just enough time for everything we need to do including the mistakes that are bound to happen.

Hmm... I dont know what else to say
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Blues on January 20, 2006, 09:32:37 PM
Quote from: "astroboy"
Quote from: "MPLe"...
The San Jose convention center wouldn't allow us to do this for free.
...
That's the first thing that came to my mind. I guess a lot of the newbies don't know that practically EVERYTHING costs money, in a hotel/convention center.

rental fees for: chairs, tables, stantions, easels
surcharge for: electricity, water
permit fees: if you wnat to sell anything

once you come up with the realization that a hotel/CC will charge you for practically anything and everything - it gets pretty hard to come up with  new ideas unfortunately.

Hence why I suggested combining it with another room; it'd take less space and it'd be cheaper.  You don't need to rent tables and chairs twice for the same room.

Though I will admit that the decorations might get a bit expensive.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: sykoeent on January 22, 2006, 12:54:04 PM
Quote from: "serajwl"Well, I am Happy to see that this idea isnt completely dissed and that it's grown into something even more than what I had intended.

I do agree, it is a little bit too late for organizing this thing this year, but I am happy with the idea that it's a possibility for next year. (I smell a senior project!)

I would love to be involved with organizing it. I have organized school functions and things of the sort in my earlier years of high school and late middle school, and I think that we (yes, we) could do this.

Another year would give us just enough time for everything we need to do including the mistakes that are bound to happen.

Hmm... I dont know what else to say

Cool, cool! If you need help on the designing side and props and stuff, I can help!
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: kam_islash on January 22, 2006, 01:18:38 PM
Get some XS, its quite powerrful.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Ayanami Rei First Child on January 29, 2006, 01:33:11 AM
Hmmmm.....What about Sobe? I LOVE their energy drink "No Fear"!! I've never heard of Bawls though.....I haven't seen it sold anywhere around the Bay Area, I don't think ^^;
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Eri on January 29, 2006, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: "Ayanami Rei First Child"I've never heard of Bawls though.....I haven't seen it sold anywhere around the Bay Area, I don't think ^^;

It's hard to find.. I haven't found a place that sells it in the bay yet.. It sucks cuz it's about the only energy drink I'll ever really drink >.>

Keep on the look out for a root beer bottle that's blue (sometimes white for their sugar free one.. ew...) with white lettering. If you find it, let me know.. Need to know where to get that stuff when I'm in the bay ^_^
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 29, 2006, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: "Eri"
Quote from: "Ayanami Rei First Child"I've never heard of Bawls though.....I haven't seen it sold anywhere around the Bay Area, I don't think ^^;

It's hard to find.. I haven't found a place that sells it in the bay yet.. It sucks cuz it's about the only energy drink I'll ever really drink >.>

Keep on the look out for a root beer bottle that's blue (sometimes white for their sugar free one.. ew...) with white lettering. If you find it, let me know.. Need to know where to get that stuff when I'm in the bay ^_^

they sell that stuff a lot around here. If you guys want I can go pick some up and send you some.

if it's one thing that my town is good for, it's finding energy drinks that are hard to find.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KindaRandomKris on January 30, 2006, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: "Eri"
Quote from: "Ayanami Rei First Child"I've never heard of Bawls though.....I haven't seen it sold anywhere around the Bay Area, I don't think ^^;

It's hard to find.. I haven't found a place that sells it in the bay yet.. It sucks cuz it's about the only energy drink I'll ever really drink >.>

Keep on the look out for a root beer bottle that's blue (sometimes white for their sugar free one.. ew...) with white lettering. If you find it, let me know.. Need to know where to get that stuff when I'm in the bay ^_^

My first (and only) bottle of Bawls was from a ... Savemart in San Jose. In the Evergreen area, to be exact. Damn expensive for a little bottle like that but it was gooood.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on January 30, 2006, 07:07:30 PM
Just out of curiosity and out of context, Kris, do you live in that area?

Eri, some 7-11s stock Bawls. The one near my school does, which is a total lifesaver.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: creme on January 31, 2006, 02:45:46 PM
CompUSA around here sells the drink. Specifically, the one in downtown San Francisco on Market, and the one in South San Francisco across the street from Tanforan. I've never had it, but those are two CompUSAs I've seen it at . That would be my best guess of where to get it.

The whole bar idea sounds need but too far out there, unfortunately. :(
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Eri on January 31, 2006, 03:41:44 PM
o_O compusa!? Hm.. on my way home to the bay too...

It's easy to find bawls up in davis, but I guess that's just because it's a college town ^^;;
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Umi.Ryuuzaki on January 31, 2006, 03:57:27 PM
http://www.bawls.com/locator/store.php

enjoy =)

Some 7-11's are carrying this as well. If you want, I'll bring a few bottles to the next meeting lol...
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Nina Star 9 on January 31, 2006, 04:54:04 PM
if you guys can somehow pull this off, maybe have non-caffinated ones, too, for those of us that get headaches and stuff from caffiene~~

just a thought.

but this realy does nto seem plausible, unless like, someone just brings a cooler full of drinks and sits in the halls and hands them out. but acutally setting up a shop and selling them would most likely not happen.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on January 31, 2006, 04:55:29 PM
Quote from: "Nina Star 9"but this realy does nto seem plausible, unless like, someone just brings a cooler full of drinks and sits in the halls and hands them out. but acutally setting up a shop and selling them would most likely not happen. (http://www.snared.net/fanime/2005/day_two/DSC03289.html)
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Nina Star 9 on January 31, 2006, 05:11:45 PM
nice. :3 i like that.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Blues on January 31, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
don't quote me on this, but I believe that's legal so long as you don't cut a profit.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KindaRandomKris on January 31, 2006, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: "Spiritsnare"Just out of curiosity and out of context, Kris, do you live in that area?

Yup.
I live about .. uh, maybe 2 minutes away from that Savemart.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on January 31, 2006, 07:59:30 PM
<offtopic>

So how many Fanime people live in the Evergreen area? >w<

I'm tempted to set up a mini-mini gathering, like at Coffee Lover's or Sweetea. Too bad Nickel City's moved. :P
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: KindaRandomKris on January 31, 2006, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: "Spiritsnare"<offtopic>

So how many Fanime people live in the Evergreen area? >w<

I'm tempted to set up a mini-mini gathering, like at Coffee Lover's or Sweetea. Too bad Nickel City's moved. :P

<offtopic liek woah>
There's always the movies!
I still haven't gotten to watch Brokeback Mountain, Memoirs of a Geisha, Narnia... hell, I haven't been to the movies since Fantastic Four ._.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: serajwl on January 31, 2006, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: "Spiritsnare"
Quote from: "Nina Star 9"but this realy does nto seem plausible, unless like, someone just brings a cooler full of drinks and sits in the halls and hands them out. but acutally setting up a shop and selling them would most likely not happen. (http://www.snared.net/fanime/2005/day_two/DSC03289.html)

thanks for your optimism guys  :?

but that guy is awsome XD
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Absolute0 on February 08, 2006, 08:22:47 PM
You know what else we could do? PUT TRACKERS on every person who takes a bottle, and then hunt them down and demand payment.
Title: Your Ideas...
Post by: PassingTheBuck on February 19, 2006, 10:02:03 AM
Okay, I've been reading the thread and here's what I'm taking away from it.

You want a bar set up that sells Brawls, Red Bull, etc., and possibly, you are looking for an oxygen bar too.

Don't even think about selling your our supply of 'anything' inside the hotels or the convention center, because you can't, even if you lose money on the deal.  There will be additional security walking the floor space and looking for violators.

Marriott last year had a Red Bull concession stand set up and it work out for them very well, in fact so well, that they ran out of the stuff on Saturday and had their vendor bring in more on Sunday morning.

If we can't get a sponsor, maybe the hotels can set up, again, this year Red Bull stands and we might ask them to get Brawls too.

As for opening a room specify for drinks or a café arrangement, that would require space and that's what we are lacking, because every spare inch is being used, even all the hotel areas.  

I am will to investigate with the SJCCF to have them supply energy drinks at their concession stands, but an oxygen bar will be tougher, especially since I don't know of any that would be willing to set up in the convention center.  There would be the question of  the health code, but if anyone knows of a business that is willing to discuss with us that side of it, please have them contact me on this thread.

Craige...
Title: Re: Your Ideas...
Post by: serajwl on February 19, 2006, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: "PassingTheBuck"Okay, I've been reading the thread and here's what I'm taking away from it.

You want a bar set up that sells Brawls, Red Bull, etc., and possibly, you are looking for an oxygen bar too.

Don't even think about selling your our supply of 'anything' inside the hotels or the convention center, because you can't, even if you lose money on the deal.  There will be additional security walking the floor space and looking for violators.

Marriott last year had a Red Bull concession stand set up and it work out for them very well, in fact so well, that they ran out of the stuff on Saturday and had their vendor bring in more on Sunday morning.

If we can't get a sponsor, maybe the hotels can set up, again, this year Red Bull stands and we might ask them to get Brawls too.

As for opening a room specify for drinks or a café arrangement, that would require space and that's what we are lacking, because every spare inch is being used, even all the hotel areas.  

I am will to investigate with the SJCCF to have them supply energy drinks at their concession stands, but an oxygen bar will be tougher, especially since I don't know of any that would be willing to set up in the convention center.  There would be the question of  the health code, but if anyone knows of a business that is willing to discuss with us that side of it, please have them contact me on this thread.

Craige...

First of all, it's "Bawls" not "Brawls". That was just kind of bugging me so I thought I'd point that out.

Next up, oxygen bar rental companies have special deals for special events such as conventions and trade shows.

Example: http://www.oxygenbarrentals.com/Tradeshows.html

I am aware that it is not easy to get some sort of bar or cafe setting, but at the beginning I was thinking more of a booth type of thing to sell the drinks at.

You have presented some good ideas though. Like getting the hotel to do the selling of the drinks and such.

I think that this will make a good project for next years' fanime.
Title: Re: Your Ideas...
Post by: PassingTheBuck on February 19, 2006, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: "serajwl"[First of all, it's "Bawls" not "Brawls". That was just kind of bugging me so I thought I'd point that out.

Next up, oxygen bar rental companies have special deals for special events such as conventions and trade shows.

Example: http://www.oxygenbarrentals.com/Tradeshows.html

I am aware that it is not easy to get some sort of bar or cafe setting, but at the beginning I was thinking more of a booth type of thing to sell the drinks at.

You have presented some good ideas though. Like getting the hotel to do the selling of the drinks and such.

I think that this will make a good project for next years' fanime.

Is it possible that Bawls will lead to Brawls?  Okay, correction noted.

Thanks for the link... OMG, they want $2k for five hours rental time!  We would need a sponsor for those types of pricing.

Booths in the convention center will cost a fee from Center Plate (the owner of the rights for B&F inside the convention center) for selling food and beverage inside their facility.  CP will also want a cut of the profits and they would charge the vendor (if that's us) for the electrical drops they require for their cash register.

I think its better to have the hotels bring in the stuff and be done with it.  I'll talk to them about getting cash carts for the beverages and maybe signs indicating where the cash carts are located.

Craige...
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: britedarkness on February 22, 2006, 10:09:13 PM
Sometimes, you can also buy Bawls at a FoodMax.  And you can always get the 12 packs in a box at CompUSA.  I do not suggest getting thinkgeek to ship some to your home though... Shipping can really kick you in the bawls.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Absolute0 on March 01, 2006, 06:53:01 PM
Quote from: "britedarkness"Sometimes, you can also buy Bawls at a FoodMax.  And you can always get the 12 packs in a box at CompUSA.  I do not suggest getting thinkgeek to ship some to your home though... Shipping can really kick you in the bawls.

Huh. That's interesting... I don't think I've ever seen Bawls at the FoodMaxx in my area. Maybe I've just missed it or something.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: britedarkness on March 02, 2006, 02:59:16 AM
I've never seen it either.  That's just what I've been told.  Whatever though... I'll either go to CompUSA on my way to Fanime, or I'll find the 2 closest 7-11s to Fanime and go during the weekend.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: misfits_cure on March 14, 2006, 01:46:48 PM
i think this is a great idea. hella people will be running around like crazy, but thats all good :) oh and bawls for sure ^^
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: misfits_cure on March 14, 2006, 01:47:47 PM
they sell bawls at Beverages and More too
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Ruby on March 18, 2006, 01:50:05 AM
Bawls FTW!
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: otakuya on March 18, 2006, 10:13:54 PM
I'd like my energy drinks sugar free.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on March 19, 2006, 08:47:26 AM
^ I actually wouldn't be surprised if alternative drinks were sold alongside their respective mainstays (eg Bawls Guaranexx, Vault Zero, etc.)
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: G.I.R on March 20, 2006, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: "Otakuya"I'd like my energy drinks sugar free.

Well, there's always that new "Tab Energy" drink, that neither looks, tastes, or smells like Tab.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Blues on March 21, 2006, 09:47:32 PM
And Tab is really only for people that like cancer.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on March 22, 2006, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: "Blues"And Tab is really only for people that like cancer.

And those who don't even have a clue about wtf Tab is. (ie. all I know is that it's just a drink XD)
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Captaine Kit on April 16, 2006, 04:45:24 PM
Why does Fanime have to provide that?  Can the person with that humanitarian suggestion just get a table at Artist Row and give it out, or sell it without looking for a profit?  I am so down with providing refreshments at my own lounge.  However, there are tons of things that can replace the common 'energy drink'.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Lisu on May 31, 2006, 04:17:26 PM
Not re-reading the previous posts...but was the biggest issue time or legal ness?
If time, then I'd think now is a good time for those who were really interested and wanted to do it for the next year.
My outlook with what could be in a different topic would be not so much as a bar, but a cafe.  Very anime-esque related subject and easily applicable to the con (maid cafe...hmm).  
Bar, cafe, energy drinks, just drinks...all I want to see is if anyone is up to anything.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Umi.Ryuuzaki on May 31, 2006, 04:28:24 PM
Quote from: "Lisu"Not re-reading the previous posts...but was the biggest issue time or legal ness?
If time, then I'd think now is a good time for those who were really interested and wanted to do it for the next year.
My outlook with what could be in a different topic would be not so much as a bar, but a cafe.  Very anime-esque related subject and easily applicable to the con (maid cafe...hmm).  
Bar, cafe, energy drinks, just drinks...all I want to see is if anyone is up to anything.

Timing actually I think. If this is an idea thats still serious, now would be a good time to propose it or push for it again. I, for one, wouldn't mind acquiring some energy drinks ^^;;
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Spiritsnare on June 01, 2006, 07:40:42 AM
Quote from: "Umi.Ryuuzaki"Timing actually I think. If this is an idea thats still serious, now would be a good time to propose it or push for it again. I, for one, wouldn't mind acquiring some energy drinks ^^;;

Especially from [insert fetish here]. XD

Well, then, we have 51 more weeks to go! Let's start planning before it's too late! :D
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: slifertheskydragon on October 05, 2006, 08:03:43 AM
oh gawd.

everyone'll be wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

until 3 in the morning.

>.O;;
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Ayanami Rei First Child on October 05, 2006, 01:11:33 PM
I'll have you know that I don't need to be pumped up on sugar and/or caffinee to act crazy and/or stay up until 3am :twisted:
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Asa_Gohan on November 14, 2006, 09:34:02 PM
Yeah...Like how i stayed up 3 days straight and i think on the last day of con i fell asleep next to the DDR machine XD not on purpose though >.>
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Emerge on November 18, 2006, 12:04:05 AM
im pretty sure we're all gonna be paying 3 dollars for a bottle of vault again this year
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: asuka245 on July 01, 2007, 10:20:38 PM
What they Should do is have is venting machine's with rockstar,monster,redbull,jolt,etc so attendee's and staff can get the fix for the once's that need it

Please charge normal  price cause they already are abit expensive already...if u know what i mean :P
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: wasabi_sandwich on July 03, 2007, 10:39:04 AM
Personally after going to AX the prices at Fanime seemed reasonable. XD;; This Idea is pretty good, as long as they don't adopt the AX pricing of $5.25 for a Rockstar, it can be a real hit. One thing does bother me tough, I'm scared of narutards on Pocky now they'll have Rockstar and Bawls too. *gulp* Secure yourselves. ^^;;
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: djz3r0 on July 06, 2007, 10:01:40 AM
After reading everyone's ideas about a bar, I have a few suggestions.

I actually have a degree in Restaurant Management, so I'd be more than happy to help or even lead anyone who would like to formulate this bar. Or 'bar' as you want to call it.

Otaku Bar

   Not sure if this one will run over so well with the higher ups, but let's face it... 70% of con attendees are legal adults. Revenue from the bar will go to a) paying the loan to obtain supplies and b) next year's con budget. I have a degree in restaurant management and understand the ins and outs of bar operations (including licensing, etc). It will be a limited bar, as it would cost way too much to provide a full bar with a short list of available cocktails designed specifically with Otaku in mind. This will provide a) income for the con, b) prevent attendees from going out into downtown San Jose and getting drunk there.
   ex. Ramune Romantica (Hypnotic and Melon Ramune), Hime-sama (Vodka and Peach), Sakura Drops (Soju, Calpis and Grenadine).
  Some classic drinks will be available (Margaritas, Jack and Coke, Tokyo Teas).
    I'm sure some of you are saying, "How would you regulate the bar? How do you make sure that underage attendees aren't drinking?"
   1. Drinks will NOT leave the designated bar area.
   2. EVERYONE will be carded, regardless of age.
   3. A stamp or wristband will be given to those who are of legal age, color will change daily. (if wristbands are given, then they will be wrapped snug enough to not be removed and passed on to the person outside the area.)
   4. Bar opens at 5pm, closes at 2am.
   5. ONLY con attendees will be allowed in the bar area.

Ideally, the bar would be placed out on the patio that sits at the end of the convention hall, on the Mariott end. We would have to obtain a Type 48 Liqour License (or I think there's a special license that allows a short time sale).
Other ideas to tack on to this is to design the bar into a theme. Cosplay is always popular.

This again, does not have to be an 'alcoholic' bar and instead, an energy drink bar or lounge. Yes, the Maid Cafe was a good idea. However, I noticed that the demand for seats was much higher than could be provided. There are tons of ways we can do this and if everyone is interested, let's produce a proposal for the staff heads to present at the next staff meeting.
Title: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: asuka245 on August 13, 2007, 04:54:19 PM
well it would be nice if monster or rockstar had a booth there at Fanime and sold drink from like 9am -9 pm the same night for the whole con and gave the staff free drinks would be nice.. they would be a great sponser to have!

Or

have a few vending machines that sold the drink but make them normal price! there already high enuff  :P
Title: Re: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Ryumon Hozukimaru on October 23, 2007, 06:22:54 PM
I love the idea of a energy drink bar. It would make it sooooo much easier to get energy drinks at night and not have to walk around San Jose looking for a fix.
Title: Re: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: crazyninjafox on November 18, 2007, 11:22:13 AM
omg id love an energy drink bar X__x
there should be a different variety of energy drinks... bawls, full throttle, rock star, red bull, red line ect...
it should be in the evening too. where there is the most people...

id love to see all those lilo otaku's spazzing more than usual x3
Title: Re: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Braveheart on November 20, 2007, 05:12:36 PM
As a head member of the staff formerly known as Rovers The idea of an "Enrgy Drink Bar" frightens me. I Shudder at the thought of tousands of Otaku running around the con; each hopped up on 2 bawlz, 3 Red Bulls, and a Go girl... They would have to enforce a 3 drink/day limit or something maybe even make it 18 + only. Just to keep someone from drinking too much caffine and end up having heart palpitatiopns or arrhythmia. On the other hand I would love to be able to pop over to the drink bar and get my can of "Cocaine" entering my 12th consecutive hour on shift...
Title: Re: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: otakuapprentice on November 20, 2007, 05:40:10 PM
Quote from: Braveheart on November 20, 2007, 05:12:36 PM
As a head member of the staff formerly known as Rovers The idea of an "Enrgy Drink Bar" frightens me. I Shudder at the thought of tousands of Otaku running around the con; each hopped up on 2 bawlz, 3 Red Bulls, and a Go girl... They would have to enforce a 3 drink/day limit or something maybe even make it 18 + only. Just to keep someone from drinking too much caffine and end up having heart palpitatiopns or arrhythmia. On the other hand I would love to be able to pop over to the drink bar and get my can of "Cocaine" entering my 12th consecutive hour on shift...
i think an "energy drink bar" already exists at fanime; i think it's called Starbucks, and it should be located near the Hilton side.

jokes aside, 'tis a very good idea, but not a feasible one at that. You're serving drinks in a sense that your performing a type of foodservice, and this would probably nip the bud of the SJCC in turn.

BUT.....i fail to see a problem with someone just deciding to walking the halls at night, towing a small little cooler behind him with various types of energy drinks and such......winkwink.
Title: Re: Energy Drink "Bar" at Fanime
Post by: Jun-Watarase on November 24, 2007, 08:13:37 AM
A lot of people are repping Bawls. I used to like them, but I'm not sure why, now-- they're actually kind of bland and don't really keep me awake, anymore. I like Vault and Rockstar...

I'd suspect serving energy drinks to hundreds of people at Fanime would get pretty expensive, though. There's already a "food court" that is pretty overpriced from what I've heard, and serving energy drinks would probably be expensive to purchase too, to keep up profit.

Quote from: Braveheart on November 20, 2007, 05:12:36 PM
As a head member of the staff, formerly known as Rovers, the idea of an "Energy Drink Bar" frightens me. I shudder at the thought of thousands of otaku running around the con-- each hopped up on 2 Bbawlz, 3 Red Bulls, and a Go Girl... They would have to enforce a 3 drink/day limit or something maybe even make it 18+ only, just to keep someone from drinking too much caffeine and end up having heart palpitations or arrhythmia. On the other hand, I would love to be able to pop over to the drink bar and get my can of "cocaine" entering my 12th consecutive hour on shift...

People are already pretty hyperactive at cons. I can't imagine how it'd be to have an energy drink bar.

But then again, there are exhausted staffers and the few who tire themselves out or patrol the con late at night lacking the energy to do anything the next day.

Quote from: otakuapprentice on November 20, 2007, 05:40:10 PM
I think an "energy drink bar" already exists at Fanime; I think it's called Starbucks and it should be located near the Hilton side.

Jokes aside, 'tis a very good idea, but not a feasible one at that. You're serving drinks in a sense that your performing a type of food service, and this would probably nip the bud of the SJCC in turn.

Coffee never really does it for me-- but then again, energy drinks only keep me awake, rather than energize me to perform extreme physical action... other than Burn. That stuff is pretty scary. I was surprised I didn't get caffeine poisoning from my first sip.