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I'm number 4290 (I don't know if that counts as anything)
But yes I submitted everything at 7 minutes and it says I am waitlist :(
So I assume that 7 minutes is the cut off time when people started getting waitlisted haha
Which is inasne @__@;
Anyone know anyone that have been approved for their table yet? :O

So all the artists that sold at the artist alley did you guys have a good time? :D

This was my first time selling and I forgot that I had to wake up early every day =__=; I was sooooo tired omigawddd

So I was wondering after your experience this year what are you going to change about your booth the next year? For ex. Did you make keychains but realized that people really loved stickers too so you want to make stickers for next year?

Also what other projects were you thinking of doing? For ex. Make more prints or pins etc.

I realized that a lot of people wanted pins/buttons (but I don't have a button maker so I borrowed my friends) And I went online and made 1" pins which were a lot smaller than I imagined so I sold em for 50cents each-I actually made a nice sum of money for selling things for only 50cents

I was also thinking this year to make more mini prints-which I am going to put on ultra heavy glossy cardstock (so basically postcard paper)
And was wondering if I should do double sided color pictures? For ex. have Loki on one side and Thor or something on the other? But then I'd price it to be a bit more-so I'd sell my one sided ones to be $3-$4 and then my double sided ones would be $4-6
But then I thought that might be too much for a mini 4x6 print so it might be better if I just one sided them instead so if people wanted only Loki they could get Loki instead of both. What do you think?

Sorry if this post is so long-just wondering how everyones artist alley experience went! I met some really awesome and nice artists when I went to artist alley too which made me really happy!

I always go to clearbags.com
It is very cheap and I got my things fast in like 2 days :O

Yeah-it is really cheap-even if they don't turn out perfect its fine you can just cut them. They don't have autocorrect anything I think the only thing they have is you can put your own border on it or you can crop it.
I don't think you can get proofs on them either unfortunately-yeahhhh >__>; But they are a really nice quality :> I liked them! And they are pretty fast too!

What's letter size? is that 8x10? they are usually sold at $8 per print
Well you also have to take in account the time each picture takes as well :O
and how complex the print is.
I really think you are selling your prints for really cheap but that is just me >__>;
They are really adorable though :D I love your madoka ones even though Idon't watch the show-and Stocking is really cute >W<
If you draw Brief I'll want one lol

The only problem with winkflash is I don't think they have a template for their 4x6 prints...so I had a border on my pics and the borders got cut off-also I think they printed it on one gigantic sheet so on three sides of the pic my borders would be there but at the top/bottom it would be completely cut off because I think that was just the way they cut them.
BUT I was dumb and made my prints EXACTLY 4x6 lol forgetting that they had to cut em and stuff >__>; I guess I was sill yand though tthey were printing them individually or something like that

Hey guys! Reviving this thread bc it r cool.

Someone mentioned that they sell 4x6 prints for $1... Is that the average cost for 4x6s at the AA? ? @____@ It seems kinda low. I want to print mine at Office Max because I can have quick proofs there, and they charge 66 cents each :x

I'm hesitant to order online because I'd like to have proofs. However, I don't think I'll have a choice if 4x6s are $1. Do you guys have any suggestions for how I should prepare my files for print? Do they normally print lighter or darker, or is there no pattern?

I don't know if this was already answered-if I am repeating myself tell me and I'll delete my post

Yeah-the $1 for 4x6 prints are REALLY cheap-usually they go for $3-5
I usually saw them sold as $4 though
If you are printing on glossy paper I woudl recommend making it a tad lighter beucase glossy paper makes everything darker XP
for everything else i dunno

I just ordered from vista print-500=46 bucks including double side full color 100 lb prem. matte finish uploaded my own picture to both sides and the 14 day shipping (which is free)
It is the cheapest I could find besides Uprinting
only because I couldn't order glossy since it makes the colors of my picture funky. If you do glossy Uprinting would be 40 because their glossy is the standard business cards come with while vistaprint its cardstock (not the 100lb the one weighing less that)

For bookmarks I am just going to print mine on heavy cardstock then get bookmark slips with tassels and slip em in there :P

Bahahaaah! Yes! Saint Seiya that would be awesome!!

What does BRS stand for?

What about Cowboy Bebop/Samurai Champloo/ and Trigun?
I don't know about popularity but I know almost everyone has seen some of those awesome anime!

For popularity I really think My Little Pony is going to be quite popular XD
Vocaloid of course
and the classics like Zelda and Sailor Moon.
Oh! Tiger & Bunny-I know that is popular! I am going to make some prints of it.

I already planned on what to make but I only finished one thing that is "ready to sell" per se. I made keychains-a LOT of them. I only have half of them laminated-cut out-and ready to sell.
I still need to make all my other things ;___;
I have the art of pins but I need to make 3 more and then I will be FREEEEEEE!
And then I will send my buttons off to be made since I do not have a button maker and button makers are too expensive D:
Then I have my other things to do...hopefully I can finish them all with mid terms coming up X__X;

Yeah it is hard to know what is popular D:
I made some Kuroshitsuji and hetalia things last year but I didn't get year...so I am hoping that people still like those series XD (I know Hetalia is still enjoyed but Kuroshitsuji ended so I dunno :O )

When I am unsure of what to do I usually ask friends for  information on a particular anime that I don't know much about but want to draw fanart of.
Yeah me too! I never thought that Adventure Time which is a kids show on Cartoon Network would be so popular! But then I watched it and I love it <3

Sometimes I try typing in "most popular blah blah blah" And see what it comes up with and then if I haven't seen it watch a few episodes XD

Yeah! ETERNAL SONATA WOO!
I am playing it right now actually. I stopped after you go into this mirror place and you get Crescendo in your party (playing ps3 one)
AND HE HAS THE POWER OF THE GALAXY LOLOLOLLLL
My friends groan whenever I play it because...they beat the game and they say the story is just...bad. Like the beginning its like you are stopping...um...that dude...(trying not to put spoilers in) to stop making funky evil creatures into an army to destroy everything-but it goes like a whole 180 and changes into something like totally different and weird...that probably doesn't make any sense but
I LOVE the characters and the character outfits/set designs.
That is why I played the game and want to draw them >W<-
Did you beat the game yet?
Who are you favorite characters?
I really like Jazz, Chopin, Beat (so cute), Falsetto? (the kicky girl with short hair) andddd there are more but I haven't run into them yet.
I. Can't. Stand. Salsa. I like her interactions with Beat but her...accent. Ugh. And when she says "SOLAR FLARE."
Other than that I enjoy everything else XD

Yeah if my friends say that they really love "X" anime then I will watch it and see if I enjoy it enough to draw fanart of it >:P

There is an Office Max near fanime? :O I never knew that!

Usually when I draw fanart it is of animes/games I have played or watched/things I enjoy.
For example-Eternal Sonata-I love their outfits-so I really want to make some kind of art with those characters even though it isn't really popular (at least I don't think so I don't know D: )

When I am thinking about drawing fanart of an anime I don't know I try to at least watch one or two episodes and read about it. If I like the anime I will watch the whole thing-if not I put it on the side to maybe pick up again if I have extra time later on.
Personally I find that I have more motivation to draw fanart when it is from series I have watched and enjoyed-not ones I have no clue about.

But I do think with fanart it is fun to see some characters OOC once in a while.
Like Johann from Monster laughing hysterically and prancing around a flowery meadow....actually nevermind...that image is scary.


@Lil Moon-
Sorry for repeating myself. I had too much on my mind so I read your post but I most likely forgot when I was posting X__X;

Wow! Those are really good! I love the two right ones-with yoshi and the girl with the penguin :> So cute! I love your style!

Yeah I was in a rush-
I don't understand why I am getting bashed for not wanting to sell art of my original characters. I'll sell original prints if I want to but not of my own characters. I would make new things instead. Thats that.

And yes-with fanart you are technically drawing other people's creations and selling them etc. etc.
But if the companies/creators really had a huge problem with it then I am sure they would of done something to ban it from happening. Plus-what fan artists are drawing aren't an exact copy of the fanart itself. Its just that character with ideas coming out of their own mind that they think its cute that they put down on paper. They just have the character as a centerpiece.
The people who created video games/anime/ whatever know that once they get their idea out there people are going to draw fanart of it an create new things with it. That is the chance they have to take.
When I create something and send it out to the world I know that the same thing could happen to me. I can either- 1) let the people draw fanart of it or 2) try and get them from not doing so. I'll let people draw fanart etc. because I love seeing what people can come up with. I am sure a lot of other animators think that well too.

And people can still make money off their original ideas. People do still look at original art. One way to draw people in as well is posting some fanart-and then having your original art at the side. People will be at your booth and they will see your original stuff and maybe they will like it a lot and purchase it.
The rule itself just would be a hassle-specially when it comes to breaking things up.
Lets say you have the 80/20 rule or the 70/30 rule
You make 2 HUGE posters that are like-I don't know...like banners. That big. The art itself took you lets say a really friggin long time to create. Does that mean you have to create original art to match that exact thing now? Because that'd be possible but it'd take a lot of time and what if it was the last month?
What about the people that create tiny little trinkets? Like keychains pins or whatever-would the rule apply for that as well?
Everything like that has to be taken into consideration.
And what about commissions? You are still doing original art for other people would that be considered under the rules as well since you are selling art to other people of whatever they want.

But even with the 80/20 rule whatever it'd still be the same. Sure there would be a tad more of original art out there but fanart will still overshadow it and people are still not going to buy as much as they would for fanart.
It would seriously hurt people's wallets if that happened and make it a lot more work to do. That would mean I'd have to create all the things I had planned in 90 days-fanart, portfolio, business cards etc. and then original art on top of that.

I still think it'd be best if every artist voted on it.

And I thought fanime was for everything-selling fanart and original art. Original art can still be recognized and treasured even with the "freedom of choice" thing we have right now so why change it? Sure you have a rule that makes you put original art out-but fan art will still be there and then you'd be competing with a bunch of other original artists to sell/get your name out there. It would be like the exact same thing just with a little more original prints or whatever to sell.

EDIT:
Ignore this post. No rules are to be made so I am not going to debate anymore.

Well I am not exactly pro fanart. The main thing is Freedom of Choice
The ability to choose what I want to put on my table-whether it be all fanart or all original art or half and half. That's it.

Well with my original stuff its different. I'll create something else-me drawing a character in general in a picture would still be my character because I created it. I am still selling it. It doesn't have to be of my original characters because no matter what I draw it will still be something I created in the first place. I will create characters to sell-but the thing I won't want to sell is the characters I created specifically for my novel etc.
After I write it and illustrate it and it gets out to public if people want to make fanart then I won't care. They can do whatever they want.

Yes, I understand what you are saying-and I still will sell original art prints. Just not of the things I created in the past. If I make prints to sell it'd be something new out of my head entirely. That is what I meant-not of my old characters that are sitting in the dust. If I create something new entirely then I will sell it. Or if it is of my own character in another outfit with a pretty bg with patterns everywhere etc. I was actually (if I had time) create some original prints to sell. I make them a bit different (clothes wise) like put my own spin on it.

I think the fanime staff are debating about they rule then they should have artists vote on it.
They should have a brief description of each and then the pros and cons of each-then send out emails to all the artists and then have them vote. Sure they'd have to make an e-mail to send to every artist but then whatever wins people would know.
Also post the poll on facebook/main fanime website so other people can vote as well.
Maybe artists that didn't get into the artist alley or something?
Just so it gets a fair chance and isn't done in by only people in the forums or something like that. It will be everybody. And if it is done that way then I won't mind and there won't be as much as an uproar afterwards if one thing gets chosen over the other.

Well that is the thing-Zelda is popular. The art of your original character isn't-the internet is huge. What are the chances that you will find the person that is using X character to do whatever? But its alright, if I draw for fanime I will create something entirely different. I don't like using my own OCs unless its for myself. The only OCS I have are going to my portfolio lol. If I sell original prints it'll be like mermaids or something.

@Charis And by fanart for do you mean commissions or something?

I want the fanime staff to be able to see both sides before they make a call if they do. And I am hoping if they do it will be for next year so artists don't have to worry about anything until next year.

Because I am feeling like I am selling my own character-I'm afraid the person will take it and think that since they bought it they can do whatever they want with it. Which means they can take the same character and call it their own or something like that.
Yeah-if the character wasn't the focus of the picture and it had a lot of other things that was the main focal point that I would want to sell it more
however that would take a long long time to do-time that I might not have.

@Lil-Moon
Do you think that your fanart looks too much like the original character-as in-I saw you made plushies. Have you researched and seen if the company itself have made plushies for that anime/tv show/video game etc. If they did and it looks too closely like yours then maybe that is why they said you can not sell it?
Yeah I am sure they will reply soon.

@ Lil moon
Did you ask them what exactly they said that you could not sell and why? Was it really because they were plushies? :O
Is it because they look too much like the real thing?
And yeah-I would do things the day before too (while stressing out majorly at the same time haha) Yeah things always pop up it is always going to happen. But at least it can be reported and taken care of.


@Armored-Heart
Just to state this out-
We are always going to be on two different sides of the same coin. Me fanart-you original art. Fanart vs original art is basically what this comes down to.

For me I sell mostly fanart (or plan to) because I enjoy drawing it more than original art. It is more fun to draw art of characters that I love. It is hard for me to sell originals because all the originals I do are of my own characters which I get attached to which means I will not want to sell them. To sell my originals I'd have to create a picture that I am completely detached from which means that I will not put as much effort into it because It is not of fanart or my own OCs which I enjoy drawing. It means in the end I'll have a semi good picture that I dislike that I have wasted X amount of hours on and have to put it down on my table because of the new rule to match my fanart.

It is the "must sell X% of original art" that gets me. I can be required to set down some original art for people to look at but having to be required to sell is a whole nother story. I bought my table and I expect to sell whatever amount of original or fanart stuff on it. No percentages 80/20 rules whatsoever.

I know you are an inspiring original artist and feel overshadowed by the fanart that is there but no matter what it is always going to be that way. Just because you do not want to be overshadowed doesn't mean you should take other artists down with you. With the rules now everyone is free and content-rules are simple. You buy your table then sell what you want. Walaa~!

If you really are worried about your original art selling or being "overshadowed" then you can work your way around it. Perhaps with your comic book give the person who buys it an extra item-like a small sticker or even a fanart keychain or whatever just to get your name out there. With your book in their hands people will read it and then you will start developing fans which equals a fanbase! Sure-it means a bit of extra work but that is what it is.

And now you're contradicting yourself, dear. You just said earlier you're unlikely to look for and buy original work, and now you're changing your statement saying you're a fan of it. Also, you're completely neglecting the proposed 70/30 rule which I keep saying I also prefer because it allows for more fanart for fellow artists like you. Additionally, if this is so "oppressing" then I wonder what you'd think of art school or a college art program, since they certainly wouldn't allow fanart there either because they want you to build upon your own ideas.

Um, excuse me, but this isn't about me. I was simply stating my opinion; the high concentration of fanart drowns out the original work, and I find that discouraging. You're being EXTREMELY rude and degrading towards me and my opinion and I do not appreciate that. I have been trying to represent both sides of the argument and make valid points because I can understand the intent of the proposed rule and the feelings of the artists. You're essentially calling my opinions "stupid" and chastising my examples when I am also an artist just like you, and a hopeful future participant in AA. This should be a debate, not an argument.

God damn. Nobody can express a freaking opinion these days. Why did I even bother. =_=

Alright. Here is the thing. I DO occasionally buy original art. I go to fanime expecting and searching for "fanart" But if I find some original art that intrigues me/tickles my fancy I will buy it. I don't look for it. I see it. If there is a booth with really cool looking original art that I like I will go up and get it. I meant I am a fan of it as in I don't mind people selling and creating it. I just don't want to be forced to create original art for every fan art piece I create.

You say 70/30 or 80/20 rule-it is free of choice now. That is like regressing. Sure I can draw fan art but I'd still have to draw some original art in return. Being forced to do it after being told that I have free of choice is the thing that I find not very pleasing. It's like saying "Hey you can do whatever you want. Oh by the way you can't do whatever you want you have to do a little of this instead."

I'm sorry if I am being "rude" I don't mean to come off that way but like I said-you are trying to take something that is free by choice and force upon artists to abide by the new rules if enforced.

And I have seen a lot of original art booths in my time I have been to fanime. There was a booth ONLY dedicated to original art. I bought like 5 prints of hers. There was another person that did like I think fairy art? And all her original art prints sold like hot cakes. Other people did a theme with cute little chibis that had all the different styles of lolita. They were really adorable and I wanted it but it was the last day and I was already broke.

With original art it is harder because everyones preference is different. Some people like cute art. Some people like horror. While others like a certain style. No matter what some people just won't buy your stuff because "They don't like the way you draw girls" or "your men are too manly" You are going to have to learn away to please the certain crowds of "WOW" The buyers. Yes, original art can sometimes get overshadowed with fanart but what can you expect? It is an anime convention you are going to.

Even with the 80/20 50/50 whatever rule you want-it isn't going to make much of a difference. With more original art pieces on the table just means that you have more competition which means its just the same. You just have to find a way to shine and you can. I have seen a lot of artists who have done that. Whether it be from cute things/horror/or whatever.

I have a table and I want to be able to choose what I put on that table whether it be fan art or all original art whatever. If you want to make original art and sell it then do so. Hang them on PVC pipes-that gets more attention. Figure out what people like and make work based on it. Do commissions. Whatever works. Just don't take away others people choices of selling whatever they want at their own table.

I also wanted to add that I have been to conventions where-like fanime- it is free of choice. Some people decided to sell on original art while others only fan art-there were people who did only original art sold pretty well and they weren't the best of the best. Their art just appealed to crowds. They did really awesome art based on dark folklore/fairytales. They had prints that sold out.


Also what in the world does college have to do with this? That is an entirely different situation and has nothing to do with the convention. College is a whole nother thing
Fanime artist alley is for fun- To do whatever you want to before you have to go to college and draw naked people 24/7 XD

[I just think for artists in the artist alley who are selling their items should have it be a choice whether they want to sell fan art or original art. FANIME SYSTEM IS GOOD AS IS Period.]

Yeah but the 50/50 rule won't stop at just prints. It means anything fanart related. So lets say I want to do "themes" one year. Pins, stickers, keychains etc etc each one from a separate fandom. Now I would have to split everything accordingly to make sure it is all 50/50. I have
to have the same amount of original art as the same amount of fan art that I come up with and
like TTYLS said
It does put a burden on the artist. That means they have to make sure everything matches and that for ever little piece of fanart I do I have to have original art as well.
What if I don't want to do it? Well now I have to. I think that's plain out silly.

Also forgot to add what about the artists that have worked in artist alley before? They have extras of keychains or whatever but now instead of just being able to sell it they have to make other art matching it even when they are just trying to get rid of the extras! That is just ridiculous!

And seriously-these artists are coming to an anime convention at a place called fanime and taking place in the artist alley. Do you think artists really care if their original art doesn't get as much attention as fanart? No. They went there to make money and perhaps meet other artists.

Besides-original art does get attention. Even though fanart is more popular but if your original art is good enough you are still going to draw people in either way. Why make a stupid rule and force it upon people when now people have a choice to do what they want to do-whether it be selling fanart or original art.

I see your point on how you'd think it "encourage" people to look at the original art but think about it. You have 500 business cards on your table the people are going to grab it and look through your art anyways and see all your art on the website.
If you have a portfolio people will look through it and if you do commissions will commission you. If you sell original art prints then woop de doo. I don't understand why a 50/50 rule should be implemented while fanime is fine as it is.

Yeah. With a rule like 50/50 that isn't "encouraging" artists to grow. That is suppressing them. If they want to "improve" by creating original art and selling it that should be  a choice so artists that want to continue drawing fan art can do so. But people do imporve when creating fan art as well. I learned a lot from doing commissions.

And you CAN totally sell original comics or whatever you want to do. I don't know what is stopping you. Just put it on your table for sale! I don't understand why this rule has to be implemented so you can put one of your original comics on the table to sell.
When I went to fanime last year there were people with their original comics out and people do actually buy them.
And no one here is "anti original work"
The only thing they are is "anti 50/50 rule"

I am a fan of original work and I don't care when people have it. If it is something I like I will consider buying it



I just think for artists in the artist alley who are selling their items should have it be a choice whether they want to sell fan art or original art. FANIME SYSTEM IS GOOD AS IS Period.






PS:And how do people rushing art jobs last minute do anything? (unless they are tracing or something)
Sure they can show up with stuff unacceptable but I thought that if somethings wrong just report it to fanime staff and they will take care of it.
No artist is that stupid. Unless they want to get banned. If someone showed up with stolen fanart then they should be reported and then taken care of.
Is this supposed to relate to the 50/50 rule at all or is this just another thing entirely I am confused??