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Title: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: lalalandla on February 03, 2008, 11:17:22 AM
Few showers 60º, 30% chance of rain

Feb 10th 2PM

1865 Lundy Ave. San Jose, CA 95131 Telephone: (408) 383-9400

Items:
1)Hat & or mask
2)Sign (if it's a picket sign, make sure the tips are squared and not arrowhead)
3)If possible, print out some flyers

Rules:
1)RULES 1 & 2! This is a MUST
2)Do NOT park close to the CoS, unless you want them to give you hell at your own house.
3)If the police come, be truthful and respectful, even if they are an asshole.
4)Don't block the sidewalk

I will find a meeting place for us by monday.

If going, send e-mail to [email protected]
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Barnes on February 03, 2008, 01:48:29 PM
More details please? Such as:
-What should be on the sign?
-CoS?
I don't understand this. ???
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: destranacion on February 03, 2008, 11:57:54 PM
cos is church of scientology, i will be at the berkeley protest the same day so anyone from the east bay is welcome to pm me for my number and we can meet up! i think the set meetup spot right now is tullys coffee on shattuck
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: ~~Loktera~~ on February 04, 2008, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: lalalandla on February 03, 2008, 11:17:22 AM
Few showers 60º, 30% chance of rain

Feb 10th 2PM

1865 Lundy Ave. San Jose, CA 95131 Telephone: (408) 383-9400

Items:
1)Hat & or mask
2)Sign (if it's a picket sign, make sure the tips are squared and not arrowhead)
3)If possible, print out some flyers

Rules:
1)RULES 1 & 2! This is a MUST
2)Do NOT park close to the CoS, unless you want them to give you hell at your own house.
3)If the police come, be truthful and respectful, even if they are an asshole.
4)Don't block the sidewalk

I will find a meeting place for us by monday.

If going, send e-mail to [email protected]

I'm on it. I have their propreitary info packet somewhere on my hard drive. I'll see if I can print that out at Kinkos, for massive distribution.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Glitch on February 04, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
Well I'll be. I didn't think protests would make for fanime board gatherings.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: ~~Loktera~~ on February 04, 2008, 08:01:31 PM
Quote from: Glitch on February 04, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
Well I'll be. I didn't think protests would make for fanime board gatherings.

No, but this is easily one of the best places to plan things. Away from those that are directly affiliated.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Kazuko on February 04, 2008, 11:44:51 PM
totally run from L Ron Hubbard and his zombies!

I have been in a riot in peru I say wear a mask and bring water,goggles help alot

because that shit burns and water will wash the tear gas away
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: phoenixphire24 on February 05, 2008, 11:33:59 AM
I'm not sure if someone has already asked, but make sure that wearing a mask is allowed. Some cities have rules against it. If not, please do protect your face and definitely do not park near-by. If it's possible, leave your ID in a safe place and not on you. I've heard the scientologist organizers go to great lengths to find out your identity and then harass you.

At least you'll have nice weather in CA. I'll be protesting in snow  :P
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: lyricaldanichan on February 05, 2008, 02:53:42 PM
holy crap is this some 4chan get ?

I dunno if posting about this here would be wise ;o
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: lalalandla on February 05, 2008, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: lyricaldanichan on February 05, 2008, 02:53:42 PM
holy crap is this some 4chan get ?

I dunno if posting about this here would be wise ;o


4chan is only a small portion of it, it's big, way big. Masks are allowed in SJ so there ye have it.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: mDuo13 on February 06, 2008, 02:04:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem kind of ridiculous to be protesting someone else's religion, even if that religion is kind of corrupt? Just seems like treading a very fine line, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: gmontem on February 06, 2008, 02:23:59 PM
mDuo13, it's ok because no matter how you spin it we are all hypocrites. hehe
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: DemonLordZabuza on February 06, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
So two thoughts:

-One, what in whatever higher power you believe in is this about?

-Two, why would a scietologist have an avatar of one of the most religious anime characters out there?

that is all
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: phoenixphire24 on February 07, 2008, 09:22:06 AM
Quote from: mDuo13 on February 06, 2008, 02:04:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem kind of ridiculous to be protesting someone else's religion, even if that religion is kind of corrupt? Just seems like treading a very fine line, if you ask me.

The protest is not about certain people's religious beliefs; I don't care what people believe. It's about the corrupt and criminal activities behind the "church." Scientology is a business that uses pseudo-scientific therapy (which people who want to join the church must pay thousands of dollars for-without being told the real beliefs of the church) to make money, but call themselves a religion to get tax-exempt status and other rights. In the past they have used information gained from its followers to blackmail them and have also done things such as raid government offices in Washington DC to get information against people who are investigating them. They use this same tactic to prevent free speech in places such as the internet by using their parade of lawyers and copyright laws.

Basically Scientology is not like other main stream religions; in fact is has most of the hallmarks of being a cult. This protest is not against individuals or their beliefs. Most of the followers are being taken advantage of and have nothing to do with these activities.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Glitch on February 07, 2008, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Kazuko on February 04, 2008, 11:44:51 PM
totally run from L Ron Hubbard and his zombies!

I have been in a riot in peru I say wear a mask and bring water,goggles help alot

because that shit burns and water will wash the tear gas away
You ma'am, get 15 extra points on the hardcore scale for that.


Quote from: phoenixphire24 on February 07, 2008, 09:22:06 AM
Quote from: mDuo13 on February 06, 2008, 02:04:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem kind of ridiculous to be protesting someone else's religion, even if that religion is kind of corrupt? Just seems like treading a very fine line, if you ask me.

The protest is not about certain people's religious beliefs; I don't care what people believe. It's about the corrupt and criminal activities behind the "church." Scientology is a business that uses pseudo-scientific therapy (which people who want to join the church must pay thousands of dollars for-without being told the real beliefs of the church) to make money, but call themselves a religion to get tax-exempt status and other rights. In the past they have used information gained from its followers to blackmail them and have also done things such as raid government offices in Washington DC to get information against people who are investigating them. They use this same tactic to prevent free speech in places such as the internet by using their parade of lawyers and copyright laws.

Basically Scientology is not like other main stream religions; in fact is has most of the hallmarks of being a cult. This protest is not against individuals or their beliefs. Most of the followers are being taken advantage of and have nothing to do with these activities.

You could argue the Vatican has done similar things over centuries, but I'm not gonna defend scientology in anyway. Afterall, they are to blame for couch jumping and Battlefield Earth.

I almost want to go since I have a megaphone. ^^
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: G.I.R on February 07, 2008, 09:44:59 AM
Co$ made Chef go away on Southpark.    Not even AX could do that.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: talu-chan on February 08, 2008, 01:45:11 AM
Quote from: mDuo13 on February 06, 2008, 02:04:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem kind of ridiculous to be protesting someone else's religion, even if that religion is kind of corrupt? Just seems like treading a very fine line, if you ask me.

      "If you want to make a little money, write a book. If you want to make a lot of money, create a religion." -L. Ron Hubbard

this is a quotes from the man who started this "religion." Normally I am not one to say that people should not believe in whatever it is that they beleive in but this man.. this is just wrong.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: phoenixphire24 on February 08, 2008, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: Glitch on February 07, 2008, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Kazuko on February 04, 2008, 11:44:51 PM
totally run from L Ron Hubbard and his zombies!

I have been in a riot in peru I say wear a mask and bring water,goggles help alot

because that shit burns and water will wash the tear gas away
You ma'am, get 15 extra points on the hardcore scale for that.


Quote from: phoenixphire24 on February 07, 2008, 09:22:06 AM
Quote from: mDuo13 on February 06, 2008, 02:04:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem kind of ridiculous to be protesting someone else's religion, even if that religion is kind of corrupt? Just seems like treading a very fine line, if you ask me.

The protest is not about certain people's religious beliefs; I don't care what people believe. It's about the corrupt and criminal activities behind the "church." Scientology is a business that uses pseudo-scientific therapy (which people who want to join the church must pay thousands of dollars for-without being told the real beliefs of the church) to make money, but call themselves a religion to get tax-exempt status and other rights. In the past they have used information gained from its followers to blackmail them and have also done things such as raid government offices in Washington DC to get information against people who are investigating them. They use this same tactic to prevent free speech in places such as the internet by using their parade of lawyers and copyright laws.

Basically Scientology is not like other main stream religions; in fact is has most of the hallmarks of being a cult. This protest is not against individuals or their beliefs. Most of the followers are being taken advantage of and have nothing to do with these activities.

You could argue the Vatican has done similar things over centuries, but I'm not gonna defend scientology in anyway. Afterall, they are to blame for couch jumping and Battlefield Earth.

I almost want to go since I have a megaphone. ^^

No I totally agree with you about the Vatican thing, but most of those things were way in the past, so there's really nothing that can be done about them now. Also, where as Catholics might donate to their church to support up-keep and their local priest, as far as I know, they don't charge you to become a part of the religion. Most priests that I have talked to in a variety of Christian religions are more than happy to talk with you and give you advice whether or not you're an official member of the Church.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: SukebeStudios on February 08, 2008, 11:31:47 PM
Um, while I support protesting and stuff...seriously guys, get a life!
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: lyricaldanichan on February 10, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
So how did the SJ raid go? I seen pics of the SF raid, awesome esp this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBDzzL3Kzpk

LAFFO
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: ~~Loktera~~ on February 11, 2008, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: lyricaldanichan on February 10, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
So how did the SJ raid go? I seen pics of the SF raid, awesome esp this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBDzzL3Kzpk

LAFFO


RICKROLLED!!!
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Montparnasse on February 11, 2008, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: lyricaldanichan on February 10, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
So how did the SJ raid go? I seen pics of the SF raid, awesome esp this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBDzzL3Kzpk

LAFFO

The San Jose raid didn't have a very big turnout; I was going to join in, but only five folks were there. Nyeh, I'll join in next time, regardless of numbers. Bring some /b/lackup if I can.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Jun-Watarase on February 11, 2008, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: DemonLordZabuza on February 06, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
So two thoughts:

-One, what in whatever higher power you believe in is this about?

-Two, why would a scietologist have an avatar of one of the most religious anime characters out there?

that is all

The person you're questioning is someone AGAINST Scientology, thus made a thread on scheduling a protest. L2r plz.

On topic:

Protesting does seem to be a bit inane, but I suppose I approve of you guys doing so to piss them off for what they have done. (I'm not sure if it's best to organize it on the Fanime Boards, but I doubt Fanime would actually care.) Though, as ridiculous as this entire religion/cult/scheme is, it filtered out the idiots foolish enough to pay money to join this religion in the first place. The LJ post on the protest in London that Ryu posted on the /b/-thread was quite funny. ( http://deathboy.livejournal.com/1082404.html ) But I have a feeling that a good chunk of them joined in, not for the sake of protesting against the scheme of scamming people with outrageous beliefs to bribe them, rather, they were just willing to be idiots and protest for the sake of being Anon and the fact that Scientology is just hilariously bizarre. I honestly could care less about why all this is being done, but I sympathize with the idea of protesting for a cause... but in this case, the internet is just overflowing.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: G.I.R on February 11, 2008, 07:33:08 PM
Quote from: mDuo13 on February 06, 2008, 02:04:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem kind of ridiculous to be protesting someone else's religion, even if that religion is kind of corrupt? Just seems like treading a very fine line, if you ask me.

Watch these and see if you still think it's just a religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZJBdvqAv8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZjNFZFxU6c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elw9e9LJIwQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwTDvfjcUJU&feature=related
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: lyricaldanichan on February 12, 2008, 11:58:44 PM
Seems like the SF was better organized and had like 300 people. Good stuff.. hopefully people
didn't get stalked and got on the CP list :O

next on is 3/15 .. :O

Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Jun-Watarase on February 15, 2008, 07:23:41 PM
I stumbled across this on another forum and I must say... it's quite impressive.

http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7341208
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: otakuapprentice on February 15, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 15, 2008, 07:23:41 PM
I stumbled across this on another forum and I must say... it's quite impressive.

http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7341208

Agreed; this is far from being over.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: DemonLordZabuza on February 16, 2008, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 11, 2008, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: DemonLordZabuza on February 06, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
So two thoughts:

-One, what in whatever higher power you believe in is this about?

-Two, why would a scietologist have an avatar of one of the most religious anime characters out there?

that is all

The person you're questioning is someone AGAINST Scientology, thus made a thread on scheduling a protest. L2r plz.


Well thank you for telling me something I learned three post ago :P

And about L2r, sorry I dont speak idiot
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Moogleborg on February 16, 2008, 12:46:19 PM
While I don't like protesting at all (no matter if you're for or against something) i'd rather boycott anything that has to do with Scientology to begin with.

Years ago, I bought one of their books and while I found it quite interesting to attempt to help reduce stress, I found it quite weird and silly that they'd think of their stuff as a 'religion'. They kept on calling me and asked me to attend their 'church' and I simply told them that Scientology isn't for me.

They left me alone from then on, and thats what i've been doing to Scientology from now on: leaving them alone....besides, all they want is nothing more than your money and attention. Sadly, that seems like a majority of things these days though....
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Jun-Watarase on February 16, 2008, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: Moogleborg on February 16, 2008, 12:46:19 PM
While I don't like protesting at all (no matter if you're for or against something) i'd rather boycott anything that has to do with Scientology to begin with.

But that wouldn't make sense, though. The people that would be boycotting their products and services wouldn't have paid for them anyway.
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Chun on March 17, 2008, 12:35:13 AM
This just in:

Scientology brought a gun to the table. (http://vimeo.com/791419)

Been watching and following along. Anon is doing well.

~Chun
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: Kanchii on May 20, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
I'd love to attend a scientology protest... Are there any soon in the bay area with a god turnout expected?
Title: Re: Scientology Protest 2/10
Post by: JTchinoy on May 20, 2008, 01:38:21 PM
you will be rick rolled