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Title: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Mister_E on September 10, 2008, 01:32:00 AM
LINK (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/09/10/scicern210.xml)

Scientists have switched on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the device they hope will unravel some of the remaining mysteries of the universe.

At 9.30 am local time (8.30 am British Summer Time), 300 feet below the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva, the most powerful particle accelerator ever built became fully operational.





Let me put it this way:

They turned it on.

Nothing Bad Happened. Yet.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JohnnyAR on September 10, 2008, 06:46:47 AM
Fuck dude, I'm scared.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Stormfalcon on September 10, 2008, 06:59:43 AM
No mini black holes ripping the planet apart.  No dimensional rifts letting tentacled beasties into our world.  So far, so good.

OTOH, no dimensional rifts letting anime cuties or bishies into our world, either.  Gotta take the good with the bad, I guess.

Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JohnnyAR on September 10, 2008, 07:01:32 AM
Quote from: Stormfalcon on September 10, 2008, 06:59:43 AM
OTOH, no dimensional rifts letting anime cuties or bishies into our world, either.  Gotta take the good with the bad, I guess.

That'd be awesome.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Mister_E on September 10, 2008, 08:32:52 AM
Quote from: Stormfalcon on September 10, 2008, 06:59:43 AM
No mini black holes ripping the planet apart.  No dimensional rifts letting tentacled beasties into our world.  So far, so good.

OTOH, no dimensional rifts letting anime cuties or bishies into our world, either.  Gotta take the good with the bad, I guess.


Hell to that, I wanted a Zaku to pop out.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: LordKefka on September 10, 2008, 08:50:58 AM
This is just another one of those Y2K situations where skeptics drown themselves in paranoia (that or just doubt)
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Tony on September 10, 2008, 10:08:55 AM
Why worry! If something happens, I imagine it would hit you before you know it.

There are scarier physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum) out there...
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Mizuki on September 10, 2008, 11:15:48 AM
It hasn't been activated today, it was just a ceremony. October is when you should really be scared, but nothing will happen, maybe a blackhole the size of a house (AKA nothing in space) will open and like dust may get sucked in, oh well.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JTchinoy on September 10, 2008, 12:17:19 PM
won't the very ground beneath the black hole get eaten as well?
do black holes move based on the gravitational pull of other objects or do they sit in place?  if they sit in place, won't that mean that black hole would suck up everything on earth that touches it as earth makes its orbit around the sun?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: sysadmin on September 10, 2008, 12:34:23 PM
I read a some physics blogs in my daily activities, and most of them just roll their eyes at these types of discussions.

It is mathematically true that there is a non-zero chance of something bad happening.  Then again, there's a non-zero chance that I will quantum tunnel into your house right now.  So.. BOO!.

For the boring stuff: only certain models of the universe (compact dimensions) suggest that a tiny black hole is possible.  In other theories, the math doesn't work out.   Even then, the resulting black hole is so small (original size: one large atomic nucleus compacted into a space much smaller than that) that it would radiate away instantly (in most black hole theories).  Even if it didn't, a black hole that's zillions of times smaller than a proton actually can't absorb a proton and grow larger.. so that's that.

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do black holes move based on the gravitational pull of other objects or do they sit in place?  if they sit in place, won't that mean that black hole would suck up everything on earth that touches it as earth makes its orbit around the sun?
They move according to gravity, if one was created, it'd go for the center of the earth.  But since it's so tiny, it won't interact with anything in its way, so it would probably just head there and sit there.  That's assuming that one is created and doesn't immediately disappear.

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It hasn't been activated today, it was just a ceremony. October is when you should really be scared, but nothing will happen, maybe a blackhole the size of a house (AKA nothing in space) will open and like dust may get sucked in, oh well.
Yeah, the first collisions are in October.  But a blackhole the size of a house is too large.  Again, think 'less than a proton' in terms of size.

Black holes don't suck.  They're just "really dense" things.  A black hole as massive as a house will have as much gravity as a house.  You can out run those pretty easy.   If you had a black hole several times the mass of the sun, that would do some funky things.  But that's not really possible with the stuff we have lying around.

More awesome of course is that Large Hardon Collider.  But I can't talk about it on a PG-13 forum.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: XpHoBiaX on September 10, 2008, 03:00:50 PM
QuoteMore awesome of course is that Large Hardon Collider.  But I can't talk about it on a PG-13 forum.

;D
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: mDuo13 on September 10, 2008, 04:14:17 PM
Quote from: XpHoBiaX on September 10, 2008, 03:00:50 PM
QuoteMore awesome of course is that Large Hardon Collider.  But I can't talk about it on a PG-13 forum.

;D
sysadmin wins this thread.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: ewu on September 10, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
shit is going around it but no collisions will occur until October 21


Theoretically, micro-black holes are still not a threat. The likelihood of forming a black hole is something like 1:50million and the creation of a STABLE black hole is even smaller. There is this thing called Hawking radiation (yes, the SAME Hawking) that black holes emit and cause the black holes to "evaporate".

Guys...this is something like worrying about a plane crash, EMF radiation, lightning, BPAs, or death by meteor when the real threat is heart disease....
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Chun on September 10, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: ewu on September 10, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
shit is going around it but no collisions will occur until October 21

So a possible end of the world on my biological birthday.

Should prove... interesting? lol

~Chun
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: XpHoBiaX on September 10, 2008, 05:20:13 PM
Quote from: Chun on September 10, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: ewu on September 10, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
shit is going around it but no collisions will occur until October 21

So a possible end of the world on my biological birthday.

Should prove... interesting? lol

~Chun

Oh hell no. How come he  gets all the fireworks on his birthday?!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 10, 2008, 06:38:50 PM
if Y2K didnt bring the world to madness by destroying technology, then this wont do a damn thing.

now if you fast forward 4 years and 3 months to 2012, then we should be scared shitless.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: sysadmin on September 10, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 10, 2008, 06:38:50 PM
now if you fast forward 4 years and 3 months to 2012, then we should be scared shitless.

Oh God, not this again.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JohnnyAR on September 10, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: sysadmin on September 10, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 10, 2008, 06:38:50 PM
now if you fast forward 4 years and 3 months to 2012, then we should be scared shitless.

Oh God, not this again.

Lol @ sysadmin
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 10, 2008, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: JohnnyAR on September 10, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: sysadmin on September 10, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 10, 2008, 06:38:50 PM
now if you fast forward 4 years and 3 months to 2012, then we should be scared shitless.

Oh God, not this again.

Lol @ sysadmin
yes, it is THIS again. I'll be sitting in a lawn chair drinking a beer waiting; if nothing happens, I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: ewu on September 10, 2008, 07:31:50 PM
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Hello_I_m_from_two_months_in_the_future

points for IDing the episode that the comment is from.....
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 10, 2008, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: ewu on September 10, 2008, 07:31:50 PM
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Hello_I_m_from_two_months_in_the_future

points for IDing the episode that the comment is from.....
LOL @ altered Nigeria scam; how would money prevent the world from being obliterated?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JTchinoy on September 10, 2008, 11:05:50 PM
ibteotw
:D
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on September 11, 2008, 08:15:07 AM
Damn Google putting this in there homepage as a link.
Thats why I use the Firefox start up instead of Google.
But not really.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: ewu on September 11, 2008, 05:22:39 PM
from Zain:

Webcam of the LHC at CERN: http://tinyurl.com/5tyyq3
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Mister_E on September 11, 2008, 07:43:51 PM
Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the world yet? (http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/)
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: sysadmin on September 11, 2008, 08:33:34 PM
Quote from: ewu on September 11, 2008, 05:22:39 PM
from Zain:

Webcam of the LHC at CERN: http://tinyurl.com/5tyyq3

Finally, we get hot webcam action.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: G.I.R on September 11, 2008, 11:46:07 PM
can we come out of the underground bunkers yet?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 11, 2008, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 11, 2008, 11:46:07 PM
can we come out of the underground bunkers yet?
send Schrodinger(with cat) outside, and find out if its okay....or not.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Mister_E on September 12, 2008, 12:13:37 AM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 11, 2008, 11:46:07 PM
can we come out of the underground bunkers yet?
A bunker would do JACK!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: ewu on September 12, 2008, 12:53:20 AM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 11, 2008, 11:50:53 PM
send Schrodinger(with cat) outside, and find out if its okay....or not.

the cat is not there....there is no cat....nor a spoon....but if there was a cat.... it would have an even chance of being dead or alive...but that is just an irrelevant thought experiment.....especially if we get stuck in a paradox....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: kollunz on September 17, 2008, 06:26:46 PM
Testing could start NEXT WEEK!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/16/scilhc116.xml
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: rude32 on September 17, 2008, 09:01:51 PM
QuoteMore awesome of course is that Large Hardon Collider.  But I can't talk about it on a PG-13 forum
How is this awesome? It sounds like a gay porno to me? It's one big swordfight.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: G.I.R on September 17, 2008, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 11, 2008, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 11, 2008, 11:46:07 PM
can we come out of the underground bunkers yet?
send Schrodinger(with cat) outside, and find out if its okay....or not.
Now that's thinking outside the box!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 17, 2008, 09:54:10 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 17, 2008, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 11, 2008, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 11, 2008, 11:46:07 PM
can we come out of the underground bunkers yet?
send Schrodinger(with cat) outside, and find out if its okay....or not.
Now that's thinking outside the box!
out of the box, into a black hole........shaped like a box.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: G.I.R on September 18, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
I heard on the news today the collider is down because ot a bad Transformer.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 18, 2008, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 18, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
I heard on the news today the collider is down because of a bad Transformer.
MEGAAAAATRONNN!!!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: rude32 on September 18, 2008, 06:06:13 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 18, 2008, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 18, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
I heard on the news today the collider is down because of a bad Transformer.
MEGAAAAATRONNN!!!
PRIIIIIIMMMMME!!!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: kollunz on September 18, 2008, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: rude32 on September 18, 2008, 06:06:13 PM
Quote from: otakuapprentice on September 18, 2008, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 18, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
I heard on the news today the collider is down because of a bad Transformer.
MEGAAAAATRONNN!!!
PRIIIIIIMMMMME!!!

TIIIIIMMMMAAAHHHHH!!!!

hmm i wonder if you cosplay as the LHC.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JTchinoy on September 18, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
How do you cosplay as something that takes up more room than the convention center?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: kollunz on September 19, 2008, 07:07:29 PM
Oh you know... I'll just be floating over the con, watching everything from above.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JTchinoy on September 20, 2008, 01:48:30 PM
Creating black holes and ending the world n shit?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: otakuapprentice on September 20, 2008, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on September 20, 2008, 01:48:30 PM
Creating black holes and ending the world n shit?
all in a days work.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JTchinoy on September 21, 2008, 02:15:20 AM
oh fsho.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: G.I.R on September 23, 2008, 11:32:34 PM
Just heard the collider will be out of service for several  months, due to a liquid helium leak.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/large-hadron--1.html
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: XpHoBiaX on September 24, 2008, 01:32:18 AM
Yeah, heard that 3 days ago on the BBC when I was at the studio.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: JohnnyAR on September 24, 2008, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: G.I.R on September 23, 2008, 11:32:34 PM
Just heard the collider will be out of service for several  months, due to a liquid helium leak.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/large-hadron--1.html


I thought it was a year ???
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: G.I.R on September 26, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi15.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa383%2Farcadetech%2Ftmrkt080925.gif&hash=334e6ee6e6e2c5a371979a0e71ed50f52ab56274)
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider is activated
Post by: Mister_E on September 26, 2008, 10:59:37 PM
Now that I think of it maybe a blackhole was made but not a time space one, more like a Blackhole in the Economy of the US and Russia.