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Title: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: RaddaX2 on November 09, 2008, 02:31:50 PM
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Srsly, I would love to see a girl cosplay that (even though I'm unsure if that character is even a girl).  really, I am in LOVE with this design.  I haven't played the game but I was hoping one of you on the board would have.  Do you know any more characters of particular excellence?
Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: BSaphire on November 11, 2008, 04:41:58 PM
My oldest daughter played the game and also loved the designs of both main and sub characters. A few of the outfits would be a costumers challenge, much like Final Fantasy characters, but many of them are outstanding. Why do you think the game was weak if you haven't played it yet? It may not consume as may hours of RPG as something like FF, but I wouldn't consider it weak. I only know that if I spot a copy of it I will purchase it.

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Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: MikoChika on November 12, 2008, 01:41:08 AM
That is a guy. And to my knowledge isn't even in the game. but good eye, becuase that is Hyung-Tae Kim's work and he was the character designer for the game. And yes at times it's difficult to tell the difference between guy and girl when it comes to his drawings between small breasted women and slender yet lean men.
I too love this guy's clothing designs for his characters and would turn into an instant pool of jello if I ever saw someone cosplay a Magna Carta character and got the clothing detail correct. It would be a master peice in my eyes!
Anyway. I personally found some elements of the game alittle annoying, like some of the cut scenes and how they don't always let you skip them, and they tend to talk alot, but that's like any other rpg game I supose. The fighting system is interesting, deffinately different, and generally speaking the game is not a challenge, though it can by abit time consuming. But in my opinion the story line is great and the character deisgns are fantastic. I really don't think this game would have sold if Kim hadn't been the lead character designer.
Ahh.  As for other spectacular character designs from this game, it's really kinda hard to pick one out of the group. And from anywhere else, I'm currently drawing a blank of any character/costume deisgns that can stand up to anything shown in Magna Carta.
Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: BSaphire on November 12, 2008, 07:40:26 AM
Quote from: MikoChika on November 12, 2008, 01:41:08 AM
That is a guy. And to my knowledge isn't even in the game. but good eye, becuase that is Hyung-Tae Kim's work and he was the character designer for the game. And yes at times it's difficult to tell the difference between guy and girl when it comes to his drawings between small breasted women and slender yet lean men.
I too love this guy's clothing designs for his characters and would turn into an instant pool of jello if I ever saw someone cosplay a Magna Carta character and got the clothing detail correct. It would be a master peice in my eyes!
Anyway. I personally found some elements of the game alittle annoying, like some of the cut scenes and how they don't always let you skip them, and they tend to talk alot, but that's like any other rpg game I supose. The fighting system is interesting, deffinately different, and generally speaking the game is not a challenge, though it can by abit time consuming. But in my opinion the story line is great and the character deisgns are fantastic. I really don't think this game would have sold if Kim hadn't been the lead character designer.
Ahh.  As for other spectacular character designs from this game, it's really kinda hard to pick one out of the group. And from anywhere else, I'm currently drawing a blank of any character/costume deisgns that can stand up to anything shown in Magna Carta.
Domo Arigato for the artist info! I was wondering who it was ^^) The only characters that could have the similarity would be maybe some of the OZ characters, FFXII has a few and there is another RPG, but I can't remember it off the top of my head ~~ ) I enjoyed the fact that the characters were more gender unspecific than most vg like to make. Many women do NOT look like Barbie nor are men built like Arnold so it is nice to see a variety of shapes, sizes and even a little guess as to which sex a character is. I also liked some of the music that I heard with the game. Glad you posted!

BTW... if you are wondering about OZ... It was only released in Japan, but one of the songs was on a DDR game. The cut scene displayed in the game led my daughter and I on a search to find out more! No scheduled release for America, but if you have a Japanese PS2 then you can purchase the Japanese version... not sure how well it went over in Japan.

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Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: MikoChika on November 12, 2008, 03:29:15 PM
Nu Prob. I love Kim's work, it's quite amazeing. And i'm glad you've replied with a couple rival suggestions of character/costume designs. I would have to agree that a few deisgns in ff12 are pretty good and can indeed compare to some fo the things seen in Magna Carta. And as for OZ. I've never heard of it, btu now I'm really really interested. so i'll go look it up. I won't be able to play it, but it'll be nice to learn abit about it and take a look at some of the character deisgns. One can only hope that some day they'll deside to release OZ into the US. I would imagin if there is a big enough fan base, they won't have any choice btu to release it.
Thanks for the return response.
Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: BSaphire on November 13, 2008, 07:34:45 AM
Your welcome ^^)

As for MC characters cosplayed, I know that some have been done because I have seen pictures of them. I believe at AX two years ago, but don't quote me *giggles.

Costuming at the level the artist has detailed for those characters is going to be more challenging than your average cosplay. The fabrics are embossed with details that may be hard to match, but I don't think the hard core costumers are that discouraged from attempting, and I can only speak for myself, I will be looking for the closest thing in color, the right textures, sheen, and flow before I start any thing as magnificent as a MC character. I can only compare the details to characters like Dynasty Warrior (more recent games) and such. I love that the artist has put the detail into the fabric, trims, etc... but it does propose quite the challenge :P

There is a trailer for OZ that we found, and some sketches. Sometimes Americans enthusiasm for an anime or game can cause corporate Japan to look again at the subject. This has happened in the past where something in Japan wasn't technically "successful" and they let the American market play with it. The Americans loved it and the Japanese fans took the time to rethink it over. Other times we suffer from the popularity of something in Japan.

Take FFVII for instance: There were at least 4 cell phone games for phones in Japan based off the game and advent children. Advent Children had the American release date moved several times before it actually came to America which gave the "bootleggers" time to make two different versions of it. The largest problem of course was transcription from Japanese to English (since many English words do not have a Japanese counterpart) but I think many purchased bootlegs because Americans in general are impatient.

Another example is FFX & FFX-2:
FFX was so successful in building a fan base that many complained about the ending. If I have the story right X-2 was actually started (early sketches & dynamics) as a different FF game and they changed plans to accommodate the fans.. resulting in FX-2 being successful, but not as much as FFX. There isn't a con anywhere that you don't see at least one person cosplaying from FFX/X-2.

Anyway thanks again... sorry we went off topic a tad from original post.

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Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: RaddaX2 on November 13, 2008, 10:47:59 AM
Quote from: BSaphire on November 13, 2008, 07:34:45 AM
Your welcome ^^)

Anyway thanks again... sorry we went off topic a tad from original post.

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Na it's fine, what you were talking about is the kind of stuff that I want to hear.  Btw you said your daughter played OZ, how is it?  I saw a video of it and the gameplay reminded me alot of what Kingdom Hearts could've been if Donald and Goofy were actually a help in battle.
Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: PyronIkari on November 13, 2008, 07:16:39 PM
Oz will not be released in America, ever. There was a lawsuit over it, basically Sony USA told Konami they could not release the game. Official reason was because they thought the game would not do well in the states and QA denied it.

THE REAL REASON why was because Kenji 2 was being released and Sony didn't want the clearly superior OZ to be released at the same time.

First image isn't from Magna Carta(well at least not the PS2 one that you're thinking of)... It's from the PC version which is more of a prequel to the PS2 game.

The PS2 version of the game is horrible. Don't waste your time playing it, and I say this as someone who was part of the localization for the US version. In addition to... I don't want people hearing me VA.

Metal Saga(which is horrible) was better than Magna Carta...
Title: Re: As far as I know, Magna Carta was a weak game but WOW, those designs...
Post by: BSaphire on November 14, 2008, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: RaddaX2 on November 13, 2008, 10:47:59 AM
Quote from: BSaphire on November 13, 2008, 07:34:45 AM
Your welcome ^^)

Anyway thanks again... sorry we went off topic a tad from original post.

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Na it's fine, what you were talking about is the kind of stuff that I want to hear.  Btw you said your daughter played OZ, how is it?  I saw a video of it and the gameplay reminded me alot of what Kingdom Hearts could've been if Donald and Goofy were actually a help in battle.
My daughter played MC not OZ. We say the trailer also. A friend of ours has played OZ and said it was great! They did say that they liked OZ much better than MC.

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