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Title: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Rodney_Pheonix on December 01, 2008, 11:39:10 PM
And be in character and physically sell stuff like water and small snacks like pretzels and chips, would I be required to register as a dealer?

Or would that even be allowable?
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Kazuko on December 01, 2008, 11:42:43 PM
Some girls did that two years back and they were asked to leave if I remember. So basically its a no you cant you have to have a licence to vend and be under fanimecon/SJCC's rules
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Rodney_Pheonix on December 01, 2008, 11:45:14 PM
So If I had the proper permits and such I could?

Sounds troublesome, but it might be worth it to look into.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Kazuko on December 01, 2008, 11:47:12 PM
I dont know to be honest, you have to be unionized and everything its a very tedious process. your safe bet is to just not do it
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Rodney_Pheonix on December 01, 2008, 11:48:48 PM
Quote from: Kazuko on December 01, 2008, 11:47:12 PM
I dont know to be honest, you have to be unionized and everything its a very tedious process. your safe bet is to just not do it

A union made up of one man?.....Isn't that a bit counter productive? What, would I go on strike against myself? Sorry If I seem a bit sarcastic.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Steve.Young on December 02, 2008, 09:14:29 PM
It's not really Fanime that is saying no, it's Fanime's contract with the SJCC that makes Fanime say no.

SJCC is full of unionized workers and if you look around, the con food is expensive because the Convention Center is the vendor OR they charge a fee for the other food vendors.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: ewu on December 02, 2008, 10:03:55 PM
No one may sell items that are in direct competition with the SJCC. Permission MAY be obtained but its not likely that it will make sense as the SJCC is bound to get a big cut.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Rodney_Pheonix on December 03, 2008, 11:23:54 AM
So probably more headache and red tape than it'd be worth.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: ewu on December 03, 2008, 01:15:18 PM
you bet...especially for me:)
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Rodney_Pheonix on December 03, 2008, 06:52:12 PM
However that wouldn't be a problem if I were to say, cosplay a military medic, or medical ninja, and donated the stuff to people who looked like they weren't doing to well.

Couple three cases of water, 20 dollars.

Case of the single serving Gatorade mix pouches, 15ish dollars.

Case of snack size pretzel bags. 6 bucks.

Knowing I helped keep people from passing out: Priceless.

There are some things money can't buy. Case in point, good will towards fellow human beings.


[edit] Sounds corny when I re-read it outside my mind, but meh.[/edit]
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Kazuko on December 03, 2008, 07:04:31 PM
regardless its still a no no because the whole sjcc rules that they have if that is violated there are penalties like higher rates for the con or no con at all and thats not cool

Plus Its not wise to get food from complete strangers outside of official vendors such as the food court/stands and the people from the dealers room who sell japanese snacks at their price.

its because you never know if its poisioned or with some sort of drugs no one really wants that kind of trouble on their hands it just screams trouble. Even if you say "oh im not going to do that" how can you really trust that statement

its best not to do it at all
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: RaddaX2 on December 03, 2008, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: Rodney_Pheonix on December 03, 2008, 06:52:12 PM

There are some things money can't buy. Case in point, good will towards fellow human beings.


That's very admirable of you, really, but some people won't understand.  Last halloween I took my brother to the mall and at the top of the escalator we were greeted by this really creepy looking guy who was dumping snickers and twix into our bags.  Apparently he'd been doing this to all the kids at the mall but he had this huge grin on his face.  Shit made the skin on my sack crawl, don't trust guys like him.

Also what are you gonna do when someone starts to complain on how they got sick on your food?  People are gonna try to scam you.  If you really wanna help people out look for the con loners and treat them out to lunch.  Be some miserable girls boyfriend for 1 day or something.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Jelly Soup on December 04, 2008, 09:50:29 AM
Quote from: ewu on December 02, 2008, 10:03:55 PM
No one may sell items that are in direct competition with the SJCC. Permission MAY be obtained but its not likely that it will make sense as the SJCC is bound to get a big cut.

Super technically, as long as you have a vendors license and are selling items that are not provided for sale by SJCC, there shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Like, Brisk Iced Tea. To the best of my knowledge, that product isn't available from vendors on site.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: ewu on December 04, 2008, 09:56:17 AM
It also includes everything that SJCC can get on their own. Also, all food sales must go through SJCC. You must work through them or they will be very displeased and ask you to leave the premisis.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Jelly Soup on December 04, 2008, 10:36:21 AM
As long as we are on the topic, I'm guessing this doesn't spill over to food products that are central to the convention, yes? I've seen people sell various Japanese candies and sodas (such as Pocky and Final Fantasy Potions) at swap-meets and such will little to no problem.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: ewu on December 04, 2008, 10:53:30 AM
Basically the SJCC does not have Ramune, Pocky and other less popular overseas imports. (I pitty them) Water, Soda, and Gatorade, they have suppliers, and we obligated to not compete with them.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Steve.Young on December 04, 2008, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: ewu on December 03, 2008, 01:15:18 PM
you bet...especially for me:)

And for me, someone might make me remove them from the con.

The people who sell at the swap meets we've sorta let slide in the past due to the wares being imported and being a very limited distribution time during the day. We do crack down if it's something that competes with the SJCC vendors. We know some people were handing out bread/sandwiches and we had to ask them to stop. Sad, I know. Rules are rules.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Jelly Soup on December 04, 2008, 03:18:50 PM
This is more of a curiosity question than anything else, but I remember about two years ago, there was a group of people who were making free sandwiches in the middle of the night for anyone to have. As I remember, they only got in trouble for leaving a bit of a mess behind after they left. Would this be now against the rules?

Seems to me that, from what has been posted thus far, it wasn't an issue at the time due to the fact that this was taking place in the middle of the night, long after the vendors had closed up.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: ewu on December 04, 2008, 03:26:06 PM
Vendors are open for the time that Fanime requests and negotiates. Starbucks was 24/4 and the vendors were open till 2AM or 4AM last year.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Jelly Soup on December 04, 2008, 05:49:25 PM
That's not really what I'm asking. When the vendors are closed, SJCC isn't losing any business, therefore selling/giving away food shouldn't be an issue, yes?

Not that I'm planing anything, mind you. I'm just curious.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: ewu on December 04, 2008, 05:53:34 PM
What I am saying is that vendors can be open at any time. This happens to be at Fanime's request, but theoretically the vendors can be open the entire con, thereby saying that at any hour is not ok.
Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: sysadmin on December 04, 2008, 06:11:30 PM
In addition to anything Fanime or the SJCC has to say, there is the larger question.

Forget the con; is it legal for someone to just show up, set up a cart on a street corner, and make/sell sandwiches to sell/give away to the public? 

The short answer there is "no"; you'd need to register yourself with the relevant authorities, make sure you have food permits, insurance, etc.  (Yes, most authorities turn a blind eye to small stuff like lemonade stands, but this is a bit larger)

In theory, you could do something like this on private property with permission from the property owner; but that would between you and the SJCC, and it's not really in their interests to permit something like that, unless you pay them.

It doesn't matter if the SJCC will/would not lose business; this line is unlikely to sway the people in change.




Title: Re: If I were to Cosplay as a Travelling Junk Vendor, [Question]
Post by: Akito_starwind on December 04, 2008, 06:24:02 PM
I see selling a problem but I think i saw one year a guy went to a fast food place got like 20 burgers and then gave them to hungry fans. I cant think of any law saying you cant give away food. I can see this as some thing Fanime could Frown on, because of possible liability if some thing happened like sickness. But like I said its just something I saw. Who knows maybe the people that took the food where his friends and they had him get it. This seems to be one thing I can't think of any solution. but to end up with a solution you first need a problem, Im not sure this action would be one.  any thoughts?  Oh anyone know what is the Official SSCC policy on outside food is? None at all? I looked at the Doors of the SSCC when walking in and It did not have any No food Decal on the door. There where no bare feet,No smoking, and one more I think.  But i don't remember a food one. I could be wrong or they added one seance I last looked.