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Title: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Akito_starwind on June 02, 2010, 09:48:59 AM
Do we have a Idea of how many People we had this year?
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Knightfire on June 02, 2010, 10:19:34 AM
I heard between 18-20k
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Sen on June 02, 2010, 10:31:31 AM
It will be a while before we get our numbers sorted out, but it will come out via press release ala Marketing division.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Junon on June 02, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
There seemed to be a lot more people than the year before.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Kertus on June 02, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
They said at closing ceremonies that the con had grown by 5000 this year?
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: M on June 04, 2010, 07:32:22 AM
Quote from: Kertus on June 02, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
They said at closing ceremonies that the con had grown by 5000 this year?
Ric Meyers (a Guest of Honor and great overall guy/friend) said that his personal feelings were that the convention had grown by 5000.

Actual Marketing numbers will be released ala press release. :)
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: otakuya on June 04, 2010, 09:37:27 AM
It feels like we're close to the maximum capacity of the convention center
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Post by: Eri Kagami on June 04, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
Yeah, it did feel much more crowded than previous years. I could hardly breathe in the main fountain area!
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: otakuya on June 05, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: White Rose Assassin on June 04, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
Yeah, it did feel much more crowded than previous years. I could hardly breathe in the main fountain area!
...and that's outside!
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: PDelahanty on December 20, 2010, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: MPLe on June 04, 2010, 07:32:22 AM
Actual Marketing numbers will be released ala press release. :)
I never saw this press release.  Still curious as to exact attendance for FanimeCon 2010.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on December 20, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
Damn Thread Necromancy.

Quote from: Otakuya on June 05, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: White Rose Assassin on June 04, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
Yeah, it did feel much more crowded than previous years. I could hardly breathe in the main fountain area!
...and that's outside!

You may have Asthma, or perhaps social anxiety of some kind...
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: BitsOfChoBits on January 18, 2011, 09:23:15 AM
so what was the actual attendance? I do like small conventions but sometimes hate crowds, if I go this year it may be the farthest Ive ever driven. With all the forum happiness I really want to check out this convention for the first time
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: PatrickD on January 20, 2011, 10:13:19 AM
I don't want to make assumptions, but conventions that normally give out their attendance numbers often keep quiet about them if there's a drop from the previous year.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: M on January 25, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: BitsOfChoBits on January 18, 2011, 09:23:15 AM
so what was the actual attendance? I do like small conventions but sometimes hate crowds, if I go this year it may be the farthest Ive ever driven. With all the forum happiness I really want to check out this convention for the first time
The plan was to release the numbers with the press release, but that was decided against for various reasons.
Quote from: PatrickD on January 20, 2011, 10:13:19 AM
I don't want to make assumptions, but conventions that normally give out their attendance numbers often keep quiet about them if there's a drop from the previous year.
I can say that our numbers did not go down. I'd like to believe that we're pretty transparent with information about our convention, but what you stated is pretty common among every organization.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: otakuya on January 25, 2011, 10:17:18 PM
http://www.fanime.com/about/ (http://www.fanime.com/about/)
QuoteOver 16,000 enthusiasts joined FanimeCon 2010

So it's actually more than '09
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
It was a bit more, but... releasing the numbers raises issues that we don't feel like dealing with. It can give an incomplete view of the convention as well, which is bad externally and internally. Just take a look at AX vs. Otakon.

It's certainly no snub to the community in general or Patrick specifically. It's just a philosophical thing that's been around for a while in FanimeCon. We're growing quite well - enough so that we can outdo ourselves each year - and that's about all the numbers matter to us.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: EJAY420 on January 27, 2011, 01:10:34 PM
I've seen the numbers on Wikipedia.com. Just 'wiki" Fanime. I'll tell u right now, from someone who's been to "first fanime", this event keeps getting bigger and bigger with every year......awesome.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: heeroyuy135 on January 27, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
Well it's interesting that AnimeCons.com won't rank FanimeCon 2010 in their most recent podcast because they "never got a press release" and they didn't find the information on the website. Then again it was filmed before the new website went up, so I'll bet that someone told them so that they can correct that list.
http://animecons.com/podcast/episode.shtml?24
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: ewu on January 27, 2011, 10:12:06 PM
There are still no official numbers for FanimeCon and the staff have made a decision to not have an official number.
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Post by: otakuya on January 27, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
"Official" number: A LOT
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: ewu on January 27, 2011, 10:36:34 PM
Official numbers: YOUR MOM !  ;D
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: LordKefka on January 27, 2011, 11:06:47 PM
~_~
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: PatrickD on February 03, 2011, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: HeeroYuy135 on January 27, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
Well it's interesting that AnimeCons.com won't rank FanimeCon 2010 in their most recent podcast because they "never got a press release" and they didn't find the information on the website. Then again it was filmed before the new website went up, so I'll bet that someone told them so that they can correct that list.
Yeah, the January episode was filmed the Monday before Christmas.

The 2010 attendance number is posted on our site now:
http://animecons.com/events/info.shtml/2059
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: ewu on February 03, 2011, 12:04:47 PM
note that the number says "(estimated)" because they don't have the numbers. I don't even have the numbers because its NOT DEFINED.

I could say we had 30,000 people walk through our doors, but that's cuz there were three people that could not decide where the best place was for their cosplay photo and walked in and out 10,000 times....

or I could say there were 56 because the attendance numbers are defined as a very special and particular category of member from a special class...

Numbers are inaccurate and do not represent the con and even more so do not represent the con in relationship to other cons. Other cons may choose to inflate their numbers or be loyal to what THEIR conception of their attendance. But two cons will almost never come to their conclusion of their numbers in the same way....


ugh, leave it be...
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: M on February 04, 2011, 10:48:39 AM
Quote from: ewu on February 03, 2011, 12:04:47 PMNumbers are inaccurate and do not represent the con and even more so do not represent the con in relationship to other cons. Other cons may choose to inflate their numbers or be loyal to what THEIR conception of their attendance. But two cons will almost never come to their conclusion of their numbers in the same way....
Personally, this is how I feel. Even when I was helping out other events, it would bug me when I found out how they were counting numbers.

There was a LAN party, where the organizers counted whenever a person used a station as a "player". So they had stations set up for people to check e-mail and what not and a single PC station counted as close to 100 "players". This was never publicly disclosed and I really felt that it was unfair to other events.

On that same note though, I also dislike when people try to size up events. It tends to do more bad. I'm just happy that the state of conventions is not dead and that they keep happening. :)
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: LordKefka on February 04, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
Numbers don't appeal to me and I fail to see why it should matter ( I mean... unless a con is getting like 3 people or something -_-) . I rather see quality over quantity in the people. Like for example ***** /b/**** (fill in the blank game yay =P ) proudly announced their attendance number last year at the closing ceremony like it meant the world to them. To me, seeing 70% of the people dressed up as Pokemon/tree/TF2/random...random cosplayers and screaming 4chan memes left, right, up down and all over the walls didn't cut it for me.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: Himeno on February 19, 2011, 12:39:56 AM
There are two types of raw numbers. Attendees and Attendance.
Attendees are the amount of individual people at the event across the course of the weekend. (eg, you get a weekend badge and you count once)
Attendance is the amount of people who show up – per day. If you go 4 days, you get counted 4 times.

Each number is valid and useful for different things. However, there are many ways to generate those numbers. Some more accurate then others. How an event chooses to generate those numbers is up to that event. Some simply lie. Others guess. Some will take the amount of badges sold. Others will count the amount of badges actually given out.

Getting a useful and accurate number of attendees isn't as straightforward as many people might think.
Title: Re: Attendance Numbers????
Post by: M on February 19, 2011, 03:01:44 AM
Quote from: Himeno on February 19, 2011, 12:39:56 AM
There are two types of raw numbers. Attendees and Attendance.
Attendees are the amount of individual people at the event across the course of the weekend. (eg, you get a weekend badge and you count once)
Attendance is the amount of people who show up – per day. If you go 4 days, you get counted 4 times.

Each number is valid and useful for different things. However, there are many ways to generate those numbers. Some more accurate then others. How an event chooses to generate those numbers is up to that event. Some simply lie. Others guess. Some will take the amount of badges sold. Others will count the amount of badges actually given out.

Getting a useful and accurate number of attendees isn't as straightforward as many people might think.
So the differences that you have listed as "attendees" and "attendance" have been used many times with other titles. Some events are more open about it ("we count x and y and then multiply it by z sometimes!") while some events are more secretive of this ("this is the number of people that are here!" -- no explanation on what "here" refers to).