:'(
i decided to post this...after much angst
i started attending fanime 3 years ago (before that i went to smaller conventions)
is this rising number of perverted older men due to the fact that i'm getting older...or because there is a growing population of fanime-creepers?
i think there should be a "creeper protection squad" or something that walks around and taps guys on the shoulder that are getting...frisky?
JKJKJK i'm joking but...
is this just me?
p.s
i know that i could "report" people...but that would just seem like a cruel and unusual punishment
Well, the con is getting bigger, so the number of creepers wil increase. I don't know if the proportion of creepers is increasing (relative to previous years), but there really isn't a way to know that.
I actually haven't had too many creeper experiences in all my years at Fanime, and only one stands out (which happens to be from this past con). I don't know if it's that I'm choosing more revealing cosplays or that I'm geting older and wiser to it (not so naive and innocent anymore!), but the one from this past year is the only creeper story that I can remember. I can safely say that even dressed as Ulala (Space Channel 5), which is pretty well known as a sexy costume/character, that I didn't have any creepy experiences, so who knows.
I actually don't think I had any weird advances this last year, unlike EVERY OTHER YEAR. Guys trying to take my picture when I wasn't in cosplay (Oh, to be 16), which was weird, being propositioned by a group of 5 or so scary looking guys when I was trying to get to my hotel room (I looped around somewhere else and ran), and some dude grabbing my bottom (also when I was 16!) to name some of them.... But this last year? Nothing. Not that I was deterred from going to fanime after past years. I HATED all those experiences, but at the same time I get there are always weirdos, and sometimes you just run into more of them. I run into some of these things irl too. Today I got hollered at from a go-kart on the street. Like, what IS that? Part of the problem was I was walking alone a couple of those times so I guess I looked vulnerable.
EDIT: I feel like I shed a bad light on fanime, but really it's not all like that. I love fanime to death and have met so many more awesome people than creepy people.
Those durn wiminz in their dirty heathenous cos-plays are asking for it if yall care to ask me, with their short skirts and skin showing, lord have mercy!
Ha but in all seriousness, everywhere you go in life there's gonna be creepers, rovers are on patrol anyway, I don't see what more could be done besides getting more rovers, which is just a matter of the volunteering, ahem.
Also don't be shy to report someone, get their name from their tag :P
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p.s
i know that i could "report" people...but that would just seem like a cruel and unusual punishment
no, its neither cruel or unusual.
if you really feel that bothered, thats why fanime staff and rovers are around. We want everyone to enjoy themselves and if anyone causes you to feel uncomfortable. we're here to help--- seriously.
and dont that uniformed SJPD officers are around too.
In other words, we just want everyone to enjoy themselves... not feel creeped out.
Tell someone if your being harassed, and we'll do what we can to make sure your con experience is as fun as everyone says as most ppl say on the internets :D
Ironic thing is how many of the forum members are actually creepers XD
I haven't been to a con where at least one of my female friends aren't stalked or harassed. But as was said, when more attendees appear, more creepers appear. The ratio is relatively the same, but yeah.
Let's go through the list of things, I had 3 maids almost stalked this year, I dealt with those. I had someone trying to get upskirts of girls walking along side of the concourse or entering/exiting through the glass walkways along the concourse from the floor below. Had a guy trying to get upskirts of maids at west end of the concourse from the floor below. Not at the con, but had a forum member kiss my g/f on the cheek when he said bye to her during a staff meeting,(no they're not really friends, and it was really creepy) in front of me no less. Had press stalk one of my maids during Spirit of Japan town.
And to be honest, this wasn't that bad comparatively to what's happened at other conventions before.
These issues aren't small issues, and you should not allow them to happen, so don't allow them to happen. If you are a victim of stuff like this, make sure you report it, or have it dealt with in an organized matter. Guys like this make it really uncomfortable not just for you, but lots of other girls as well. Think of it this way, (extreme cases) some guy is harassing you like that, and you don't report him, who's to say he doesn't do it to another girl, who doesn't know how to defend herself or get away/prevent things from happening? She could pontetially get pictures of her taken, or even raped(yes there are cases of this happening before, incredibly few and none at a convention in California... well... there are but not in the same context but that's a huge mess of a law argument and what not so let's not get into that).
Just don't let people get away with it... and this goes for GUYS AND GIRLS. I've had plenty of girls stalking guys and trying to get lewd photos of them and what not. In fact, there's a story of a girl that would crossplay as male characters JUST SO SHE COULD FOLLOW GUYS INTO THE BATHROOM to try and get photos of them. Again won't talk about where this story is from, it's not from California or anything, but yeah, these things can happen.
Quote from: PyronIkari on August 30, 2010, 04:00:56 PM
Not at the con, but had a forum member kiss my g/f on the cheek when he said bye to her during a staff meeting,(no they're not really friends, and it was really creepy) in front of me no less.
yah, I'm still getting used to people giving "goodbye" kisses on the cheek to my gf too.
Cultural thing my butt... what a bogus excuse.
but in agreement with Pyron, if you dont want creepy situations to happen, call these people out [politely if possible] or ask Fanime Staff will give 'friendly' reminders that only so much socializing/ contact or behavior will be tolerated.
That, and I gotta request more intimidating guys over at Maid Cafe.
I agree with Pyron -- report anything that makes you uncomfortable!
I didn't report my experience, but it was really pretty mild (a middle-agedish man grabbed me by the arm or shoulder [I forget which now] away from my friends and told me that he really enjoyed taking my picture earlier in kind of a creepy tone that implied sexual pleasure -- keeping in mind that I easily look underage in the costume I was wearing), but if he would have approached me again or done anything worse than what could have just been a misunderstanding/poor social skills/he doesn't have the same ideas about personal space that I do, it was just... mildly creepy. If anything worse happens (stalkers, attempted upskirt photos, harassment, etc.), then I'd try to get his name or badge number (or at the least a really good description), provided that I wasn't too shocked to do anything (which I was with this really mild case, so who knows!) and find the nearest Rover.
Things will probably only get worse if true creepers think that they can get away with harassing people, and things will get worse if you have someone harassing you and you just let it go. And try to not be like me and think that you are just being too sensitive or you are too shocked that someone would violate your personal space/say something like that (I'm shy, okay? :<) and report them anyway!
Also, always wear shorts under skirts. Always. I'm pretty sure that I prevented some upskirts from being taken (and know for sure that I prevented the whole con from seeing up my skirt because of the wind!) this year because I wore shorts. Even if you aren't cosplaying, don't take your chances with people trying to get a shot of your panties. It's not the worst that could happen at a con, but it's super easy to prevent.
Quote from: Nina Star 9 on August 30, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
Also, always wear shorts under skirts. Always. I'm pretty sure that I prevented some upskirts from being taken (and know for sure that I prevented the whole con from seeing up my skirt because of the wind!) this year because I wore shorts. Even if you aren't cosplaying, don't take your chances with people trying to get a shot of your panties. It's not the worst that could happen at a con, but it's super easy to prevent.
Agreed. In fact, I was considering the idea of getting some that had a camera with a big red NO sign on it (the circle with the line through it) on the backside, just in case someone actually had the audacity to try.
...but then I realized that someone would try to upskirt me just to get a photo of that, and I changed my mind :\
Quote from: Dany on August 31, 2010, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Nina Star 9 on August 30, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
Also, always wear shorts under skirts. Always. I'm pretty sure that I prevented some upskirts from being taken (and know for sure that I prevented the whole con from seeing up my skirt because of the wind!) this year because I wore shorts. Even if you aren't cosplaying, don't take your chances with people trying to get a shot of your panties. It's not the worst that could happen at a con, but it's super easy to prevent.
Agreed. In fact, I was considering the idea of getting some that had a camera with a big red NO sign on it (the circle with the line through it) on the backside, just in case someone actually had the audacity to try.
...but then I realized that someone would try to upskirt me just to get a photo of that, and I changed my mind :\
Dude, I have to admit, I would want a picture of those panties. They would be frickin' hilarious.
Anyway!
I tend to doubt myself, like, I always feel like I'm blowing it out of proportion. Like "Maybe that guy who just touched my butt did it on accident. If I did anything that would be embarrassing for everyone!"
or like "Maybe those guys were just being stupid and it wasn't that creepy and I'm a total drama queen!"
It might come from being around girls who constantly would say things for attention..... Like I had a good friend who was accused of trying to feel up this girl, when he was stupid-nice. He wouldn't do that, I can't even fathom it. Especially back then. He was kind of nerdy so.... you know. Anyway this girl told EVERYONE. And sometimes I think "Why do you want to pretend that everyone is so into you. You're pretty, but be humble." when I see girls like that who sit there talking about every guy that was checking them out. And I feel like, well, I'm blowing things out of proportion. Although, I have to say, there are a few instances that were just plain creepy. But then I'm shy so I didn't do anything anyway, nor would I know what to do entirely. But yeah, I feel like I get paranoid about it sometimes maybe, as I've been subject to many cat calls in my life (from when I was like, 11. Girls, you know.) and more so I get bad attention because I'm top-heavy. It's not my fault I look the way I do! So I get really mad and upset about it. It's just hard to tell sometimes when you're right about this sort of thing or not.
That was poorly written, but hopefully someone can make some sense out of it....
Quote from: Mango Bunny on September 01, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: Dany on August 31, 2010, 12:43:57 PM
Agreed. In fact, I was considering the idea of getting some that had a camera with a big red NO sign on it (the circle with the line through it) on the backside, just in case someone actually had the audacity to try.
...but then I realized that someone would try to upskirt me just to get a photo of that, and I changed my mind :\
Dude, I have to admit, I would want a picture of those panties. They would be frickin' hilarious.
I would be happy to photograph them if they come to be, but not while I'm wearing them XD I'm thinking they'd be more like dance shorts though..short but not panty-short so that creepers wouldn't get as good a view as they could get. Either they'd have one big picture on the front and back, or maybe it could be a pattern. I could have sworn there was a site I found that had the capability to make a print of fabric based on one repeating pattern. I should go refind it!
From what I've seen there seemed to be less Creepers this year then my last few years. Though I am generalizing to all creepers, not just girl stalking creepers. And as a guy I don't notice those kind of Creepers VERY much, though you can tell who they are when you see them.
Though I might just be imagining sense there where extremely few Narutard Cosplayers creeping around compared to last year, in which about half of those people are creepers in my eyes all ready. Perhaps, perhaps...
I have personally felt pretty safe at Fanime. No creepers have creeped my way, luckily. But then again, I have not cosplayed much. This year I went as Misty, and the only "creeper" was this guy dressed as Ash who on more than four occasions came up to me and took pictures with me. How many pictures of me does he need! ??? But it wasn't a big deal, it was only a minor thing. Then there are all the people who run up and scream "MISTY!!" But to my luck this con was glomp-free. I HATE GLOMPS. That right there is creepy.
Myself, I tend to hyper vigilant about my own behavior at Con particularly when taking pictures. I always make sure I have permission and I try whenever possible to make sure the person sees the picture I took before I leave. This ensures a better picture (had a couple times where they asked if they could repose cause they noticed something off) and peace of mind for all that the pictures are kosher.
General tips I would give from my personal experience and knowledge.
If it doesn't look/feel right, get out of the situation and report it. Even if it seems like nothing it could be part of a larger pattern.
Travel with a buddy. It sounds childish but it's never a bad idea to have a friend along, its more fun and definitely safer.
Practice your poses in a mirror before con and have a trusted friend/relative watch from behind. Better to find out before con that certain poses end up revealing more then you intended.
Keep hydrated. This helps you keep awake and alert. And on the alertness note, get a proper amount of sleep. Sleep deprivation can have a similar effect on judgment and cognitive ability as alcohol if bad enough and we know what kinds of stupid things people do when drunk.
If you drink, have a non drinking buddy tagging along and keep your intake to reasonable levels. That way you don't fall prey to a creeper/become one yourself.
This topic comes up every year and its good we keep our awareness that this is an issue. Nice guys/girls out there, keep your eyes peeled for the creepers so they can't make the rest of us look bad.
Now with that said: please see the article or link below:
http://www.mancouch.com/709195353/are-you-a-creeper/
Are you a creeper?
I sometimes wonder how people can end up so socially awkward. It's especially bad for males because it dampens their chick-getting-abilities.
Once you've been dubbed a creeper by one woman, all her friends will dub you a creeper. They'll spread the word, and you'll be shunned from your neighborhood! People won't make eye contact with you anymore. Parents cover their children's eyes in front of you and walk around your path as if you weren't just a creeper, but a pedophile too
A whole chain of events happen when you're a creeper. I don't want these things to happen to the Mancouch readers so I took action and compiled a list!
How do you know you're a creeper? Well, you know you're a creeper when...
1. You Follow Girls
You find yourself following a pack of attractive females at the club(mall, beach, other area where girls congregate in large groups) around. They're pretty, yes, but don't follow them. Following them will make you look like a desperate stalker, and will blow any chance you might have had with all of them.
2. You Stare at Girls
You can't help but stare now at the same pack of girls. Even if you're not following them around, observing them from a distance is weird too. It's ok to glance every now and then, but straight up staring is odd. Just because people are pretty doesn't give you the right to stare (same goes for ugly people!)
3. You Invade Personal Space
You find that you've mustered courage enough to approach the females you've had your eye on, remember to stay out of their personal space. No one likes their personal space to be invaded. You might have friendly intentions, but you're not cramped in an elevator. Take a step back!
4. You Touch Girls You Just Met
You're talking to someone, and not stepping all over their personal space, just keep the conversation topic light and friendly. Just don't touch them. Don't massage their shoulders, or rest your head on their shoulder, or tickle their ribs, or anything! You've just met this person, you're not best buddies.
Other signs that you're a creeper are (but not limited to):
o watching someone sleep while eating popcorn like it's a movie,
o going to the same coffee shop each morning just to "bump" into the same person you've seen every day for the last four months,
o hiding in the bushes outside their home wondering where they are, etc.
Now, here is to avoid "creepin"... don't do any of the above. Duh.
IF anyone is still doing this around at Fanime... Advise the Staff or Rovers.
kthanks. :)
Bravo, Jerry, very nice!
*applause!*
Universe: Read and remember :D
If your a creeper, I'm going to say this now.
Stay. Home. Saves me paperwork and stuff.
Quote from: Steve.Young on November 11, 2010, 02:48:03 AM
If your a creeper, I'm going to say this now.
Stay. Home. Saves me paperwork and stuff.
you know you like your paperwork Steve. it makes you feel important here at Fanime :D
Hey I'm a Creeper.
Just not the kind of creeper described HERE.
Creepers? Maybe more, dunno to be honest. I don't bug them and they don't bug me.
god i hate creepers
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icwhaudeadthar...
semi - back on topic
again if at ANY time you feel harassed or being bothered by ANYONE including any staff or even fanime rovers
please report it ASAP --- it doesnt help us fix situation if you wait until after that fact or after Con...
its better to address these issues as soon as possible to make it a fun, enjoyable and positive experience for everyone
Thanks! :)
Define Creeper.
Hopefully this doesn't become some sort of age discrimination. ;D
Quote from: Jerry on November 09, 2010, 05:13:11 PM
Now with that said: please see the article or link below:
http://www.mancouch.com/709195353/are-you-a-creeper/
Are you a creeper?
I sometimes wonder how people can end up so socially awkward. It's especially bad for males because it dampens their chick-getting-abilities.
Once you've been dubbed a creeper by one woman, all her friends will dub you a creeper. They'll spread the word, and you'll be shunned from your neighborhood! People won't make eye contact with you anymore. Parents cover their children's eyes in front of you and walk around your path as if you weren't just a creeper, but a pedophile too
A whole chain of events happen when you're a creeper. I don't want these things to happen to the Mancouch readers so I took action and compiled a list!
How do you know you're a creeper? Well, you know you're a creeper when...
1. You Follow Girls
You find yourself following a pack of attractive females at the club(mall, beach, other area where girls congregate in large groups) around. They're pretty, yes, but don't follow them. Following them will make you look like a desperate stalker, and will blow any chance you might have had with all of them.
2. You Stare at Girls
You can't help but stare now at the same pack of girls. Even if you're not following them around, observing them from a distance is weird too. It's ok to glance every now and then, but straight up staring is odd. Just because people are pretty doesn't give you the right to stare (same goes for ugly people!)
3. You Invade Personal Space
You find that you've mustered courage enough to approach the females you've had your eye on, remember to stay out of their personal space. No one likes their personal space to be invaded. You might have friendly intentions, but you're not cramped in an elevator. Take a step back!
4. You Touch Girls You Just Met
You're talking to someone, and not stepping all over their personal space, just keep the conversation topic light and friendly. Just don't touch them. Don't massage their shoulders, or rest your head on their shoulder, or tickle their ribs, or anything! You've just met this person, you're not best buddies.
Other signs that you're a creeper are (but not limited to):
o watching someone sleep while eating popcorn like it's a movie,
o going to the same coffee shop each morning just to "bump" into the same person you've seen every day for the last four months,
o hiding in the bushes outside their home wondering where they are, etc.
Now, here is to avoid "creepin"... don't do any of the above. Duh.
IF anyone is still doing this around at Fanime... Advise the Staff or Rovers.
kthanks. :)
age does not apply, if anyone does the following behavior --- please report it right away.
also this post was on the first page. k thanks.
Sometimes age does apply... if you are older enough to be the person's parent or appear old enough to be the person's parent, then it's a little creepier than if you are the same age or at least closer in age.
If a guy is being non-creepily flirting with me and he is somewhat close to my age, whatever. If a guy is non-creeply flirting with me and he appears to be as old as my dad, that's creepier, especially if I am wearing something that makes me look younger (so that I look potentially underaged).
It's pretty simple, creepy is subjective.
If someone creeps you out, tell them to go away.
If someone asks you to go away, leave.
If they leave and do not invite you, do not follow.
If you are made uncomfortable in any way, speak to a rover or a staff member.
If that staff member happens to be me.... :)
I'll leave that to your imagination...
^^ And if Eric creeps you out, please let me know so I can put him back in his cage.
OOH! cage......they feed me victims and we have cage matches to the death!
I thought this was about Creepers.
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Anyway, every year my friends and/or I end up with girls that we meet at this con. So far none of us to do the "creeper" to get it, we're just ourselves. In fact, it's been quite the opposite where girls (of all ages that attend) usually end up stalking us (in not so much a dramatic way). And sometimes it'll create some drama within the circle because of one girl.
Once I had an issue where a girl wouldn't leave me alone. She claimed to have taken a picture with me at fanime, she was dressed as Faye Valentine and I was dressed as a Pirate (all my friends and I were pirates). I don't recall taking the picture with her however. Well, she found me on myspace months after that fanime and she started messaging me a lot. She initially lied about her age, said she was 18 and that she wanted to get to know me more (that we met at fanime), and lets meet up (we only lived a few miles from each other). I took it easy with this just incase. She showed me her pictures, we chat for awhile, etc etc etc. At some point, she goofed up and I found out she was only 16 (15 when she took a pic with me at the con).
She then claimed that she really liked older guys, and that she knew I wouldn't talk to her if I found out her real age, and all that. She was right, I wouldn't have. However she was still persistent for over a year and I was being nice, I just responded every so often when she messaged, and it was usually just small talk.
Then she took it too far... girls I were into, she would get into online arguments with them, to the point where I'm the one taking the blame. So after that, I cut her off for ever after she ruined my chances with others. She blew up online and then disappeared. I've only seen her once again at fanime, and she ended up with some dude which in a creepy twist, would fit my description. :o
Anyway, my point is, creepy people WILL come in all colors, ages and genders. I had my fair share of creepy teenage stalkers throughout all of Fanime since the beginning. I don't see why this should be limited to older men though.
Oh yeah that kind of thing happen to me.
Only difference being that the girl is My Bosses and Dad's Best Friend's daughter =/
That was a fearful summer indeed...
Quote from: ZetsubouSensei on December 06, 2010, 03:06:18 AM
god i hate creepers
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The only kind of creeper I've seen, I was about to do exactly what you did, but then i saw this...
Anyways, Yeah, I've only been to one con so far, so i haven't really seen a creeper yet.
Now I recall the last "creeper" I did encounter, or more like my girlfriend encounter. It was a girl about my GF's age, early 20's. She was staring at my GF from far, them eventually approached her and flirted with her, telling her how pretty she was and making some physical contact. And I was right there, standing next to her!
Girls at conventions are creepy!
Quote from: Junon on January 03, 2011, 02:33:04 PM
Now I recall the last "creeper" I did encounter, or more like my girlfriend encounter. It was a girl about my GF's age, early 20's. She was staring at my GF from far, them eventually approached her and flirted with her, telling her how pretty she was and making some physical contact. And I was right there, standing next to her!
Girls at conventions are creepy!
Boys can be creepy. Girls can be creepy. Both can be creepy to the opposite sex, or the same sex if that is their poison. Creepy is equal opportunity! :)
it could be just that they troll too hard, or just plain creepy
I've have run into a few creepers during fanime, but this was OUTSIDE of the con more so than inside. An old man who might have been a little drunk started hitting on me when I was waiting for the bus ride home. The situation became even more uncomfortable when he started touching my hand without my permission. Luckily there are people who will chase a creep away for you out of courtesy, but not because it's their job, unlike Fanime's staff.This was back in 2007, when I usually went to conventions alone. If you have friends, have them accompany you when you want to go out. Strength comes in numbers. Don't wander around into areas you're not familiar with and walk away immediately if some creep is being too personal with you. Be assertive if they can't take no for an answer. The staff can't do much to help you when you're not within the convention area.
I used to know somebody who does all of what jerry listed. He hasn't been to Fanime for a very long time and I dunno if hes going to be there this year. I won't say his name but, I blocked him from my facebook....if he did go the number of creepers will go up to 100%!!!
Reading this makes me also realize the other half of how people think people are creepy just because they approach them to talk/converse/hit on/flirt with someone.
Not that I'm saying you're wrong in feeling how you do, but sometimes people *are* just trying to be friendly and talk. Don't get offended if a guy comes on to you. It's when... they push too hard, follow you, don't take your declination, stalk, stare obsessively, or act inappropriately that makes them a creeper.
I.E. if I think a girl is attractive and I go up to talk to them, and say they're attractive and ask if they'd like to get dinner or something, that's perfectly fine. If I ask them to see their tits, or follow them around if they leave; Keep pushing for a yes answer after they decline my offer etc. that's creepy.
Personally I didn't have any creeper problems at Fanime. I come across more problems in the real world actually XD. But I did take precautions. I was in a group of 3 girls and 4 guys, they always made sure at least one guy was with a girl at all times, even just walking my friend to the maid cafe from our room in the Marriott. And they always stood close in elevators so no one could "accidentally" touch us. I also always wear shorts under skirts/dresses like the person who posted about upskirt shots said to do earlier in the thread.
I made sure to respect other people also, I always asked before taking a picture with someone or even just by themselves and always stood a few inches away so I wouldn't invade their personal space. I never asked to hug any certain character, though I know some people don't mind, I know others (like me) would rather not touch people they don't know.
I have never personally had any problems with creepers at Fanime, however my friend has. She and I were at the Black & White Ball, and I went to dance with some guy. When I got back, a very large girl was standing quite close to my friend, who looked incredibly uncomfortable.
When I got to her, the girl gave me an incredibly dirty look and walked off. Apparently she had been flirting heavily with my friend, who had to explain that she wasn't into other women. My friend told me that she had been trying to get her to dance when I returned.
This occurred 4 years ago, and I haven't had any problems since.
holy crap so far thankfully no one creeped me and i dress like Near and L most of the time *phew*
Now that it has been mentioned. I have had minor problems at the B&W Ball... mostly with people who ask for a dance, I turn them down for whatever reason (I'm tired, they're smelly, they give off a creepy vibe, whatever), and then they keep tracking me down and asking. I'll dance with someone again if they ask, or I'll dance with someone if they ask again and I was just resting, but after rejecting them twice, they should get the hint that I simply don't want to dance with them (or dance with them again). Nothing too serious, though.
Though, some people's hands have wandered a bit too low while dancing, but nothing that seemed like a deliberate grope, so I've always let it go... Ballroom dancing (or dancing of any kind, really) isn't an excuse to grope someone. I'm still just blaming it on it being a bit difficult and/or awkward to hold someone's waist (especially when they are fairly small) if both partners aren't that experienced with dancing, since most of time, they immediately corrected and raised their hands again. But that's a lesson to potential creepers -- just because someone lets you into their personal space for one thing (a hug, dancing, etc.) doesn't mean that you have permission to grope them.
just send the female creeps to me. EJ will take good care of em.
I always wanted to go to the black and white ball, but I didn't know people were friendly enough to ask others to dance, I guess this is a good and bad thing depending if you meet the right people ):
I was reading this and thinking, "I had some pretty bad experiences, but I gotten over all of the- waaaaaait..." and then I remembered about five years ago, my first year at fanime, I was crying my eyes out because of something that happened so I sat down against the wall on the second floor where the stair entrance was and then a man came up to me and asked if he could photograph me. I was still crying when he asked me this and I answered "No, sorry, I've been crying." and he looked at me confused as to why I replied negatively and says "oh oh I see, you're crying?" At this point, I was speechless, and I was still crying so I started looking at my feet again and the man was still standing there watching me. And then he ask, "Can I take a picture of you when you're done crying?" I don't remember much after that... I might have cried more or my friend found me.
TT________TT Can't believe reading this thread brought up such a memory.
Quote from: EJAY420 on January 10, 2011, 12:36:53 AM
just send the female creeps to me. EJ will take good care of em.
Will you eat them?
Quote from: LOVE.SAE on January 10, 2011, 01:14:33 AM
I always wanted to go to the black and white ball, but I didn't know people were friendly enough to ask others to dance, I guess this is a good and bad thing depending if you meet the right people ):
Yeah, people are always asking others. The majority of them are really nice, though it can be a bit awkward when someone tries to pull you in a little closer than you'd like. (My solution -- chiffon petticoats. They keep a nice amount of distance and don't crush too easily. Plus, it's fun to dance in~) It's not super traditional, so you can ask guys if you are feeling brave. Or girls. I've probably danced with just as many girls as I have guys. (Brolitas are another story, haha.)
That other guy sounds more oblivious than creepy to me. Some people just don't understand that there are time when a cosplayer doesn't want a picture taken. It would be creepier if he had insisted on taking pics of you crying, especially if he made you pose sexy or super moe or something.
My input in this is that
These creepers do such things because they know you won't do anything back.
Quote from: Hakiro on January 25, 2011, 08:13:12 PM
My input in this is that
These creepers do such things because they know you won't do anything back.
I never thought about it that way, but it's a good point.
ok....bad zone, old thread...LOCKED