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Poll
Question: What do you think about MvC3?
Option 1: LOVE THIS FREAKIN GAME! WORTH THE WAIT!
Option 2: Not bad! Not bad at all!
Option 3: Eh, could have been better.
Option 4: THIS GAME BLOWS! What a waste of a decade long wait.
Option 5: No Opinion
Title: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: SukebeStudios on February 15, 2011, 06:44:48 AM
I picked up my copy of Marvel VS Capcom 3 at a midnight release at Gamestop on Curtner Ave. After playing it for a few hours, I have to say, I'm thoroughly impressed with the entertainment value as well as the overall quality of the gameplay. I was just wondering if anyone else has positive and/or negative feedback about the game itself?
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: moondogg on February 15, 2011, 09:18:53 PM
I had been playing MvC2 for like 5 years, and MvC3 was worth the wait, my only problem with it is that they didn't put Strider in the game, he is such a iconic character to fighting games
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: christofu on February 15, 2011, 09:31:37 PM
I agree, when the leaked roster list had Strider listed on it I was a happy boy. Then they came out and just said he's not in the game cause he didn't fit in with the tone of the game :(

The game on the other hand is really fun, I'm enjoying it alot more than MvC2. Are you guys on the 360 or ps3?? We should get some casual games going!
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 16, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: moondogg on February 15, 2011, 09:18:53 PM
I had been playing MvC2 for like 5 years, and MvC3 was worth the wait, my only problem with it is that they didn't put Strider in the game, he is such a iconic character to fighting games

How is he iconic to fighting games... when he's only been in MvC1 and MvC2? He was never even a big Capcom character either, as most people not born in the late 80s have never even played a strider game in their lives.

MvC3 is pretty trashy to be honest. X-Factor system is terrible, and the game is just easy mode. You can literally learn the game in 1-2 hours. Sentinel is obviously amazingly good, and X-Factor sent is just dumb. You can't rush him down without the risk of 100%. If you turtle... you lose 100% from block damage before X-Factor runs out if he has two meters.

The game is fun I suppose, but it's just dumb in a lot of ways.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: otakuya on February 16, 2011, 09:26:29 PM
I think it's more 'easy' than 'dumb'. I like the mechanics and control; it's more easily accessible to perform specials and air juggles especially. Every character seems more balanced, too. It's not the best, but it's fun.

I don't particulary like the physics, however, because it seems too floaty and everyone is flying (or maybe it's just me). It also seems that some characters (like Amaterasu) are too small to hit with regular attacks.

I wish the roster was larger. There were 56 characters in MvC2 and I think there are 36 in MvC3 (plus DLC). I'd love to have had Franziska von Karma, Godot, Klavier Gavin, Rockman X, and some Rockman/X Robot Masters as playable characters (^__^,)
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: christofu on February 16, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: Otakuya on February 16, 2011, 09:26:29 PMI wish the roster was larger. There were 56 characters in MvC2 and I think there are 36 in MvC3 (plus DLC). I'd love to have had Franziska von Karma, Godot, Klavier Gavin, Rockman X, and some Rockman/X Robot Masters as playable characters (^__^,)

We'll be getting more DLC chars that's for sure. On the Capcom Unity forums they're already asking the community to vote for DLC characters. Bring on Strider!! oh and a spectator mode, watching health bars deplete isn't entertaining.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: L0Lpants on February 16, 2011, 10:25:41 PM
you can look up online about why they didn't implement the other characters into the game & not even for considered for DLC. I just read up today about why they didn't put X in the game, mostly because he lacks in variety in close quarters whereas Zero is(it's still wrong that they put X's color scheme on Zero though). Besides, I don't believe a large number of people in the general audience that they're trying to appeal to ever known much of Strider. The developers already put Deadpool in there so why need 2 ninjas?
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: EJAY420 on February 16, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
spectator mode please.... TEKKEN 5 has/had it down! WHY CANT WE MIMIC THAT??? WHERE THE HELL IS KEN??????
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: christofu on February 17, 2011, 12:37:42 AM
Quote from: Captain L0Lpants on February 16, 2011, 10:25:41 PM
you can look up online about why they didn't implement the other characters into the game & not even for considered for DLC. I just read up today about why they didn't put X in the game, mostly because he lacks in variety in close quarters whereas Zero is(it's still wrong that they put X's color scheme on Zero though). Besides, I don't believe a large number of people in the general audience that they're trying to appeal to ever known much of Strider. The developers already put Deadpool in there so why need 2 ninjas?

Strider and Deadpool aren't even close to resembling each other. Their play style is COMPLETELY different. We've got two shotos in MvC3, Ryu and Akuma, two claw people Wolverine and X-23. Those 4 characters play sorta alike, why not two ninjas who plays completely different? Besides they put in Shuma in as a DLC character, who even knows about Shuma and that one comic he was in?
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: EJAY420 on February 17, 2011, 12:46:26 AM
If anyone on the playstation network aka psn wants to play,hit me up. Find me under: EASTBAYEJ
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: ice queen on February 17, 2011, 12:55:36 AM
I watched my friends play it on their X box 360. I like how the game seems so far, I think I'll join you EJAY on psn when I buy it after Dundracon.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 17, 2011, 02:08:19 AM
Was at WNF tonight and watched probably some of the best marvel players.

I repeat... the game is incredibly dumb. It looks amazing, it's fun to mess around with, but holy crap the game is stupid.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on February 17, 2011, 01:32:47 PM
And you know I still won't be able to play this game properly.

Quote from: PyronIkari on February 17, 2011, 02:08:19 AM
Was at WNF tonight and watched probably some of the best marvel players.

I repeat... the game is incredibly dumb. It looks amazing, it's fun to mess around with, but holy crap the game is stupid.
Like Halo Reach.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: LordKefka on February 17, 2011, 02:29:37 PM
Ok Sent + x-factor = wtf is this shit Capcom.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 17, 2011, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: LordKefka on February 17, 2011, 02:29:37 PM
Ok Sent + x-factor = wtf is this shit Capcom.

It's not even just Sent+X-Factor. It's X-Factor as a whole. Level 3 is too stupid. Level 3 Chun is ridiculous as hell. Dark Phoenix Level 3 is 200% in chip damage that you can't do shit about if she gets a blocked hit on you and you didn't counter perfectly. Like it was put yesterday.

"That's MvC3".
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: LordKefka on February 17, 2011, 06:57:14 PM
Yeah I'm discovering these things as I watch more uploaded vids.

Looks fun though and I do want to at least try it...
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: N.E.R.V.agent220 on February 17, 2011, 07:19:25 PM
Can't wait to play this game until a friend of ours come visit in early March and brings his PS3 over, btw what will be Justin Wong's take on

this game clones... 
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 17, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: N.E.R.V.agent220 on February 17, 2011, 07:19:25 PM
Can't wait to play this game until a friend of ours come visit in early March and brings his PS3 over, btw what will be Justin Wong's take on

this game clones... 
He already said it. The game is dumb as hell, and it's the easiest game to play ever.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: N.E.R.V.agent220 on February 17, 2011, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 17, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: N.E.R.V.agent220 on February 17, 2011, 07:19:25 PM
Can't wait to play this game until a friend of ours come visit in early March and brings his PS3 over, btw what will be Justin Wong's take on

this game clones... 
He already said it. The game is dumb as hell, and it's the easiest game to play ever.
That's exactly right. lol
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: LordKefka on February 17, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
Yeah kotaku had this thing about what J. Wong thought of MvC3. Pretty much said just that. I'm glad he was actually you know... honest with his opinion.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 17, 2011, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: LordKefka on February 17, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
Yeah kotaku had this thing about what J. Wong thought of MvC3. Pretty much said just that. I'm glad he was actually you know... honest with his opinion.

If you're reading about JWong's opinion about MvC3 on Kotaku... you obviously don't care/follow/give a shit about fighting games. He's talked about it in multiple places and I can sum it up as 'you don't follow anything concerning fighting games so you really have no right to voice your opinion on them'.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: LordKefka on February 17, 2011, 11:52:14 PM
I do follow fighting games though not as much (especially recently) as I would want so you've at least picked the right one. And you mean I can't voice my opinion..? *confused*
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: christofu on February 18, 2011, 04:24:50 AM
J.wong? The guy changes his tune about the game every minute. He hates it, he loves it, calls it dumb, then says it's the most fun game he's ever played. Whatever, keep playing it if you like it, and if you don't like it put down the controller and walk away.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 18, 2011, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: christofu on February 18, 2011, 04:24:50 AM
J.wong? The guy changes his tune about the game every minute. He hates it, he loves it, calls it dumb, then says it's the most fun game he's ever played. Whatever, keep playing it if you like it, and if you don't like it put down the controller and walk away.

o_0 Wong really doesn't change his opinion about games at all. He usually stands by what he says and when he's proven wrong, is pretty humble about being wrong (like his claim of Adon being one of the worst in SSF4). In terms of like, yeah that fine, but we were more on the level of talking about how it is as a competitive game. Which most people (that matter) agree it can be played competitively but it's got so many horrible properties that make the game incredibly dumb. I don't think a single top player/analyst disagrees that the game is incredibly stupid concerning X-Factor and turn around properties of it.

If you like playing the game, indeed, play it. If you don't, then don't. But in actual discussion of the playability of the game, the game has a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: christofu on February 18, 2011, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 18, 2011, 03:09:49 PMo_0 Wong really doesn't change his opinion about games at all. He usually stands by what he says and when he's proven wrong, is pretty humble about being wrong (like his claim of Adonbeing one of the worst in SSF4). In terms of like, yeah that fine, but we were more on the level of talking about how it is as a competitive game. Which most people (that matter) agree it can be played competitively but it's got so many horrible properties that make the game incredibly dumb. I don't think a single top player/analyst disagrees that the game is incredibly stupid concerning X-Factor and turn around properties of it.

If you like playing the game, indeed, play it. If you don't, then don't. But in actual discussion of the playability of the game, the game has a lot of problems.

I agree with the x-factor. I think lvl 1 is fine, but when it comes down to lvl 3 it's just ridiculous. Maybe they'll give us a option to turn off x-factor (wishful thinking) when they release a "tournament mode" with spectator and other online options that should of been in from the start.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: michibeloved on February 19, 2011, 08:29:30 AM
I love it, it has all my favorite characters and everything about it was amazing.
Perfect game to play with a group of people.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: Jinto on February 21, 2011, 04:32:41 PM
Got it midnight release and after playing it for a whole week this is what I thought

What I  ;D
Pretty Easy for anyone, even non-fighting experts, to pick up and play
The graphics and background scenery (especially on a HD TV)
The ability to save up to three teams for quick character selection
No carbon copies of Characters (to my surprise Akuma plays different from Ryu unlike SS4 and SSF4)
Creative alternative costumes
Easy Achievements

What I  >:(
No spectator mode, not even in the lobbies
A pain in the a$$ to get on a online fight (The only way I find fights is through the fight request in Arcade mode)
Lack of roster, and the fact Capcom plans on leeching more $ from players with DLC fighters, costumes, and pretty much other useless content
Simple Mode
Overall a shallow game compared to other fighting games like Blazblue Continuum Shift, Soul Calibur 4, Dead or Alive 4 or even Street Fighter 4 and SSF4.

Its a fun game don't get me wrong, great for parties and get togethers  but with a lack of modes and content, this game will be collecting dust in a mouth or so.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 21, 2011, 09:48:19 PM
This post is hilarious.
Quote from: Jinto on February 21, 2011, 04:32:41 PM
Got it midnight release and after playing it for a whole week this is what I thought

No carbon copies of Characters (to my surprise Akuma plays different from Ryu unlike SS4 and SSF4)
Ryu and Akuma play NOTHING alike in SF4 and SSF4. You seriously know nothing about the game if you think this.

QuoteA pain in the a$$ to get on a online fight (The only way I find fights is through the fight request in Arcade mode)
You're probably the only one with this problem. It's pretty easy to match make.
QuoteLack of roster, and the fact Capcom plans on leeching more $ from players with DLC fighters, costumes, and pretty much other useless content
Again, you don't get this. Lack of roster? It's actually a pretty decent sized roster especially with the amount of work it takes to go into a character. It takes roughly 9 months to create/program a character, and about 6 months of testing to basic play test them. Especially with how complicated MvC3 is, I'm surprised they had this many, but that can be answered with Tatsunoko beta.

QuoteSimple Mode
This is contradictory. Why do you dislike simple mode, when it makes it easier for people to pick up and play.
Quote
Overall a shallow game compared to other fighting games like Blazblue Continuum Shift, Soul Calibur 4, Dead or Alive 4 or even Street Fighter 4 and SSF4.
You list 3 of the most shallow games on the market, and then say "even SF4 and SSF4". That makes no sense. There's a reason why SC4 is hardly popular around the world, and pretty much NO ONE takes DOA4 seriously. DOA4 is perhaps the shallowest fighting game in existance.

QuoteIts a fun game don't get me wrong, great for parties and get togethers  but with a lack of modes and content, this game will be collecting dust in a mouth or so.

What do you want from a game? Modes and content? It's a fighting game. The only "modes and content" it needs to be good is "vs. mode" and playability. Now as much as I dislike MvC3 for its obvious problems like X-Factor, to compare it to games like Blaz/SC and ESPECIALLY DOA, then put SF4 lower than that, shows your lack of knowledge and understanding of fighting games.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: Jinto on February 22, 2011, 08:54:22 PM
Some say something? ???
Weird...Must be hearing things
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: EJAY420 on February 22, 2011, 09:15:11 PM
if u like the game play it, have fun. If u dont like it, go do some homework.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on February 22, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: Jinto on February 22, 2011, 08:54:22 PM
Some say something? ???
Weird...Must be hearing things

Well your definitely cool now.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: Mizuki on February 22, 2011, 10:11:00 PM
This game sucks, but it's fun at least to a certain extent. It's one of those "I'll mess around with friends" kind of fighting game, nothing to take very seriously.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: otakuya on February 22, 2011, 10:17:28 PM
After about 2 weeks, it's still fun to play. Just fun.
I also don't need any expert to tell me what's fun to play or not.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: Meever on February 25, 2011, 10:18:08 PM
Unblockable setups, full screen super moves, broken characters, X-factor doublings your speed and damage, simple crossovers, handful of infinite, 2/3rds of the cast already having 100% kill combos.

It's completely awesome.

From a pure "fun factor" point of view it's one hell of a game. I'm concerned about competitive play, and general longevity of the scene, lack of polish in the online play is also a bit concerning.... but otherwise. One hell of a game.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on February 25, 2011, 11:46:34 PM
Quote from: Meever on February 25, 2011, 10:18:08 PM
Unblockable setups, full screen super moves, broken characters, X-factor doublings your speed and damage, simple crossovers, handful of infinite, 2/3rds of the cast already having 100% kill combos.

It's completely awesome.

From a pure "fun factor" point of view it's one hell of a game. I'm concerned about competitive play, and general longevity of the scene, lack of polish in the online play is also a bit concerning.... but otherwise. One hell of a game.

There's only one real unblockable currently and it's super hard. Full screen supers have existed forever. Broken Chars? Every char is broken. X-factor does more than that. 1 Infinite in the game currently. Everyone has 100% with super/x-factor, no one has 100% without them.

Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: xxxplizit (pogi1kenobi) on March 22, 2011, 06:26:17 PM
So, MvC3 released the second patch (3/22) today.  Let's see:

The big talk is obviously the Sentinel stamina reduction.  His 1,300,000 Stamina is now around 905,000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixO4iG4NLSU).  In that case, if you guys wants your Very Hard mode trophies for every character, might as well do them now.  =P

The Haggar/Spencer Glitch has been reduced greatly (only 2 characters tested glitched still with this).  Akuma's Tatsu infinite is gone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpxG2k_wioE)

Bad news is, the game still remains unfixed competitively.  The Zero Glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3YseTHEBQ) still exists, thus still remain banned in tournaments.  Sadly, the biggest problem in the game, X-Factor, remains untouched as far as I know; no property changes at all to any character regarding X-Factor.  Yes, those lvl3's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2W5AUmFqDY&) and even lvl1's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4e-zcyDq4&) aren't touched.

Guess this is still a game to be played in a casual manner.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: PyronIkari on March 22, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
Just as a foremention, this wasn't a "real" patch. This was pre work for event mode, and a tweak to sentinel to see how it goes... and some bugs got piggy back fixed. The real patch will be soon.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: xxxplizit (pogi1kenobi) on March 22, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
Whoops.  Thanks for the clarification.  I thought it was the "patch" that everyone has been talking about today.  Sounds similar to the minor update they did February 25th to prepare for Shadow Mode.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on March 23, 2011, 03:14:24 PM
Actually potentially meaningful updates to a fighting game.
You blow my mind.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: Zero_Kirby on April 09, 2011, 01:00:09 AM
I found it decent... and X factor is pretty OP in most case
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: xxxplizit (pogi1kenobi) on April 16, 2011, 12:13:49 AM
I wonder how this 1.03 Patch is. (http://www.capcom-unity.com/number6/blog/2011/04/15/mvc3_patch_notes)... or is this still a minor update?
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: xxxplizit (pogi1kenobi) on July 20, 2011, 09:22:38 PM
Looks like ComicCon released news about Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3:

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jul/20/capcom-streaming-comic-con-umvc3-gameplay/
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: otakuya on July 22, 2011, 11:34:38 PM
OMG! Phoenix Wright! I don't care what tier he is, he's in my team.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: renalcul on July 23, 2011, 08:02:45 AM
personally just wishing that Fou-Lu didn't hit the cutting room floor.
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: xxxplizit (pogi1kenobi) on November 27, 2011, 12:15:03 AM
So...

How is UMvC3, guys?

http://t.co/S1LRcuc
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: paulB on December 14, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
I just bought the ultimate version of this game, soooooo many character games good but when you play online people just air combo you to death
Title: Re: Marvel VS Capcom 3 Thoughts and Opinions
Post by: Rhornez on December 28, 2011, 10:56:17 PM
its easy mode :l back in my day it took effort to execute combos