I and my friends got our badges but no sceduals will there be a printed scedual handed out?
I assume so. The Twitter account posted pictures of the schedule: http://twitpic.com/52tyqw/ http://twitpic.com/52trtc/
schedule of when events are are not in there
If I remember correctly, the actual printed event schedule was available at info desk last year.
Quote from: kookiekween99 on May 26, 2011, 07:27:07 PM
If I remember correctly, the actual printed event schedule was available at info desk last year.
I asked them after i posted this apparently they wont have printed out sceduals this year its all online and on the ONE app which could of been made better.
This is defendantly something they shouldn't do again. (the no printed)
Quote from: zeroelement on May 26, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: kookiekween99 on May 26, 2011, 07:27:07 PM
If I remember correctly, the actual printed event schedule was available at info desk last year.
I asked them after i posted this apparently they wont have printed out sceduals this year its all online and on the ONE app which could of been made better.
This is defendantly something they shouldn't do again. (the no printed)
That's... kinda messed up. Especially since I don't have a web-enabled device or a laptop. So I have to either memorize the schedule beforehand or print it out myself?
Quote from: kookiekween99 on May 26, 2011, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 26, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: kookiekween99 on May 26, 2011, 07:27:07 PM
If I remember correctly, the actual printed event schedule was available at info desk last year.
I asked them after i posted this apparently they wont have printed out sceduals this year its all online and on the ONE app which could of been made better.
This is defendantly something they shouldn't do again. (the no printed)
That's... kinda messed up. Especially since I don't have a web-enabled device or a laptop. So I have to either memorize the schedule beforehand or print it out myself?
If you are a cosplayer im going to leave my print out in the cosplay chill zone in the share zone so everyone can look over it. As long as no one steals it or marks it up it should be there all Convention.
Quote from: zeroelement on May 26, 2011, 11:10:58 PM
If you are a cosplayer im going to leave my print out in the cosplay chill zone in the share zone so everyone can look over it. As long as no one steals it or marks it up it should be there all Convention.
Which i think it will be messed with, stolen, and gone by the first day or two... I am currently typing up what I want to see/do. But it is bummer not know other things going on at fanime and miss something exciting.
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
Quote from: foester on May 27, 2011, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
No kidding! They got awesome feedback on those too... It's unfortunate that they don't have printed out schedules. There's going to be a lot of miffed people.
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
That's what I was thinking too. I was gonna go ask for one at info desk but then I asked around and people didn't have it.
Quote from: foester on May 27, 2011, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
The whole 'save time, money and trees' bit gets a tad subverted when you look at the useless full color 'here are the events without the time or location listed' guide that we got instead. How does I priority. :-\
Quote from: Jelly Soup on May 28, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: foester on May 27, 2011, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
The whole 'save time, money and trees' bit gets a tad subverted when you look at the useless full color 'here are the events without the time or location listed' guide that we got instead. How does I priority. :-\
Cost more trees without.
Quote from: zeroelement on May 28, 2011, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Jelly Soup on May 28, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: foester on May 27, 2011, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
The whole 'save time, money and trees' bit gets a tad subverted when you look at the useless full color 'here are the events without the time or location listed' guide that we got instead. How does I priority. :-\
Cost more trees without.
Pardon?
Quote from: Jelly Soup on May 29, 2011, 01:44:19 AM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 28, 2011, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Jelly Soup on May 28, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: foester on May 27, 2011, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
The whole 'save time, money and trees' bit gets a tad subverted when you look at the useless full color 'here are the events without the time or location listed' guide that we got instead. How does I priority. :-\
Cost more trees without.
Pardon?
for every person who dosnt have the phone app will need to print it out. So if 1/4th dont they eather have to print it out or memorize it. So if they do its about a minmal of 16 pages for it and some 26(full scedual takes 26 to add in the special events) . say 4000 people go The pocket takes about 3-4 pages so 16000-26000 pages vs 9000-12000 pages.
Quote from: zeroelement on May 30, 2011, 01:34:25 AM
Quote from: Jelly Soup on May 29, 2011, 01:44:19 AM
Quote from: zeroelement on May 28, 2011, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Jelly Soup on May 28, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: foester on May 27, 2011, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on May 27, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
Damn, I was thinking my bag was just missing it. Those pocket style guides were super awesome last year.
Agreed. I understand this saves time money and trees, but meh, I miss the printed schedule. Last year's minis were sooo handy.
The whole 'save time, money and trees' bit gets a tad subverted when you look at the useless full color 'here are the events without the time or location listed' guide that we got instead. How does I priority. :-\
Cost more trees without.
Pardon?
for every person who dosnt have the phone app will need to print it out. So if 1/4th dont they eather have to print it out or memorize it. So if they do its about a minmal of 16 pages for it and some 26(full scedual takes 26 to add in the special events) . say 4000 people go The pocket takes about 3-4 pages so 16000-26000 pages vs 9000-12000 pages.
The entire 15 page schedule from last year was condensed into a cheap, easy to read pocket guide that was just under six pages (as I recall, I don't have it on hand at the moment). This is all beside the point that...that wasn't my point. The full color guide is far less useful and more costly for a wide selection of reasons, compared to a simple cutting of folded paper with the entire schedule present.
I ended up printing out that 16 page giant schedule 3 times for my roomies who don't have smart phones.
Please bring back the pocket guides!
Honestly, the no schedule policy was my LEAST favorite thing about Fanime, and really detracted from the event. I'm the type of person to carry it around and look at what's up if I'm bored. Sometimes I don't see anything I want to go to, but eventually on a whim or if I'm bored enough something will look good. I had a lot of time being on the other side of the con or somewhere else entirely where I didn't want to leave what I was doing or walk all the way over to look at the info desk, so I kind of missed out. I have never missed an FMV contest, but this year I thought it was in the civic center because of the guide, but then it was midday in a video room somewhere I guess. I missed it.
Also, the app was not convenient. I borrowed my friend's iphone and it was.... well, hard to get a good overview with the hour-by hour thing. It would have been good in addition to a printed schedule.
It seriously impacted my fanime experience. I didn't go to one panel this year, unless you count Yoshiki.
I didn't feel the app was very useful, Colors made it had to read.
The pocket guide was awesome the year before.
The paper copies handed out this year were horrible and hard to read since the times weren't replicated in the event bars.
I felt the very least that could have happened was to have a fixed schedule/program guide at the info desks... when i went to the info desk they didn't have a program guide, a schedule, and the volunteers were clueless.
this was a major disappointment. I agree that the pocket guides were one of the best things to happen to Fanime scheduling for a long time. While I knew which panels were going on, I didn't know when or where. I also remember in past years, they were printed in the con-book, or available on the website to download and print... Usually about a week in advance.
Seeing the schedule come out at 2pm... On day 1 of the convention? lame.
i agree the pocket planner last year was awesome =_= im quite annoyed that i kept having to go to the info desk for the schedule
Yeah, a better solution needs to be worked out. In my group, we had two people with no smartphone or wifi device and one person with an iPod Touch, which meant running out into certain areas and fussing with it to check the schedule repeatedly--there was no wifi in the dealers' room, AA, or many other areas. That was incredibly irritating. And not everyone is well-off enough to have one of those devices, anyway. I'm in favor of not killing trees willy-nilly, but there are probably other points where more paper is wasted at the con (example: the flyer tables--maybe getting people to just tape down one or two, or put them in the bags, would be better), and if you want to target the schedules, there needs to be an accessible replacement. Printing up a few large, visible ones and posting them in lots of places would have been a good start, or streaming a schedule on monitors in various places, or ... This way just Did Not Work.
Was there a valid reason for the lack of printed schedules?
Quote from: Junon on June 01, 2011, 03:41:18 PM
Was there a valid reason for the lack of printed schedules?
I want to know the answer to this, too. Not to rag on anyone or any dept., but so I know who to talk to to staff next year ;)
I've experience with printing places and folding schedules and making packets and I actually like that type of work.
I would love an official answer as to why this happened.
It sucked, I'm over it. I think the feedback they're getting will push them back to the schedules again next year.
I just am curious as to why this went down how it did.
My assumption is there was some sort of problem, seeing as they did bring some schedules on Saturday. We love you anyway, FanimeCon. We're just curious.
Personally, I didn't have a smart phone or any device that could carry internet on it other than a laptop which couldn't connect at Fanime D: so I missed all the panels. Since I had a table at AA I figured might as well stay there the whole con otherwise I'd be randomly walking around (which I did for a good hour before I just gave up on it) Sad.
I was told that the company contracted to print the schedules dropped the ball, or that the information wasn't sent over in time to get printed, but I didn't get this through an official source. I doubt Fanime planned to have 15,000 - 20,000 attendees roaming lost in the convention center.
I recall something similar happening back in 2006 (?). No schedules for the first day or so, but I think by Saturday night I had one.
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on June 01, 2011, 05:24:01 PM
I was told that the company...
Sorry, that's incorrect. Just want to jump in and stop that rumor there. :)
We should get a clearer picture of everything by next week. We are very sorry for the situation and are working to fix it for next year and beyond!
Quote from: Tony on June 01, 2011, 07:43:17 PM
Quote from: Kyra_Maverick on June 01, 2011, 05:24:01 PM
I was told that the company...
Sorry, that's incorrect. Just want to jump in and stop that rumor there. :)
We should get a clearer picture of everything by next week. We are very sorry for the situation and are working to fix it for next year and beyond!
Understood. It was something I had heard through 'a friend of a friend' so most likely someone was creating their own conclusions.
Really the lack of schedule wasn't TOO bad, but if we had been informed ahead of time that there would be no schedules that would have helped.
Fanime should have made a post on the front page that there would be no printed schedules provided, then we would have known to print them out ahead of time or write down what we wanted to attend, would have defused some of the frustration at least and people would be more understanding.
Piggybacking on Kertus, I just want to jump in and say that, from personal experience as a 3rd party observer, it's always better for staff/volunteers to say "We don't know" in regards to things they, well, don't know, rather than "It's coming soon," or other such faulty information. Not only does it it lessen the frustration people feel when they are invariably disappointed, but it lets them prepare accordingly rather than anticipating something that's not coming.
Just to give you guys a tidbit, we did know that the pocket schedule was unlikely to happen. A very talented staffer had managed that from end-to-end in previous years, but he could not join staff this year. We had a strategy to mitigate this, but due to some miscommunication, that strategy wasn't followed.
We should have more information later. Unfortunately I can't turn back the clock and fix the major pain in the ass we gave to our attendees, but we'll certainly address it for next year.
Quote from: Tony on June 02, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
Just to give you guys a tidbit, we did know that the pocket schedule was unlikely to happen. A very talented staffer had managed that from end-to-end in previous years, but he could not join staff this year. We had a strategy to mitigate this, but due to some miscommunication, that strategy wasn't followed.
We should have more information later. Unfortunately I can't turn back the clock and fix the major pain in the ass we gave to our attendees, but we'll certainly address it for next year.
Just a thought, but would it be a plausible idea to find a guy who would be willing to pull this off like the last person?
Quote from: Jelly Soup on June 02, 2011, 10:53:45 AM
Just a thought, but would it be a plausible idea to find a guy who would be willing to pull this off like the last person?
Yes, definitely, now that we have time. I might do it, if no one else will. It was difficult given the timeline we had to replace him, though. He was truly a rockstar with the pocket guide, and it's not easy to fill those shoes in a few weeks time.
Quote from: Tony on June 02, 2011, 01:52:20 PM
Quote from: Jelly Soup on June 02, 2011, 10:53:45 AM
Just a thought, but would it be a plausible idea to find a guy who would be willing to pull this off like the last person?
Yes, definitely, now that we have time. I might do it, if no one else will. It was difficult given the timeline we had to replace him, though. He was truly a rockstar with the pocket guide, and it's not easy to fill those shoes in a few weeks time.
As I said above, I would love to help out with this. =)
I might be interested in helping as well.
Quote from: Jelly Soup on June 02, 2011, 10:53:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 02, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
Just to give you guys a tidbit, we did know that the pocket schedule was unlikely to happen. A very talented staffer had managed that from end-to-end in previous years, but he could not join staff this year. We had a strategy to mitigate this, but due to some miscommunication, that strategy wasn't followed.
We should have more information later. Unfortunately I can't turn back the clock and fix the major pain in the ass we gave to our attendees, but we'll certainly address it for next year.
Just a thought, but would it be a plausible idea to find a guy who would be willing to pull this off like the last person?
Who said it had to be a guy?
I would offer to do it, but I promised myself I'd only do pre-con work for one con per year, and I'm already committed to ASAHiCon until I graduate next summer.