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Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Chun on March 13, 2006, 02:12:09 AM
The Result of the Recent Case Battle (http://www.fbi.gov/page2/march06/obscenity031006.htm)

Dwight Whorley has officially fucked lolicons and normal anime fans over.

Quote from: FED ArticleTwo years ago, Dwight Whorley went to a local office of the Virginia Employment Commission (VEC) in Richmond, ostensibly to look for jobs online. Instead, he used the state's computer to download and send Japanese "anime" cartoons showing graphic acts of child pornography.

Because of a 2003 federal obscenity law, that's illegal . The law, designed to help protect children from sexual exploitation, makes it a federal crime to produce or distribute obscene drawings, cartoons, paintings, or any other visual representations involving the sexual abuse of children.

On December 1, Whorley—who had spent time in jail on previous federal child pornography charges—became the first person in the U.S. to be convicted under the 2003 law. On Friday (March 10), he was sentenced to 20 years in prison and fined $7,400.

...

Our cyber experts found digital photographs of child porn on the same VEC computer. Whorley had also used it to send explicit e-mails to a young girl and for other e-mails describing the sexual abuse of children—further violations of federal obscenity laws. In the end, we were able to link Whorley to the pornography, e-mails and other evidence on the computer. He was convicted of a total of 74 counts of obscenity and child pornography.

By examining the computer Whorley used, our agents were able to identify and track down other peddlers of child pornography, leading to a recent arrest by agents from our St. Joseph, Michigan, office near Detroit. Other cases are in motion.

Thanks a lot dude! Given the gullibility of the general public on Anime, you have reaffirmed that anything with a little girl in it is pornography, even to non-lolicons! Even the smallest innocent "panty shot" is bannated! Hope you have fun getting your ass shafted in prison! Now you've got Fed's camping at loli sites and normal anime boards! Congrats!

~Chun
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tuplica on March 13, 2006, 08:05:30 AM
QuoteThe law, designed to help protect children from sexual exploitation, makes it a federal crime to produce or distribute obscene drawings, cartoons, paintings, or any other visual representations involving the sexual abuse of children.

Huh.

I know a lot of hentai covers its tracks when it gets licensed in the states by saying that all the characters depicted are over a certain age, but the fact of the matter is that the chicas often don't look it.  Beyond hentai, I have to wonder that if they're going that crazy about it, just how many people and sites will get into trouble...

my mind is leaping to 4chan...
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tsubasa on March 13, 2006, 08:42:06 AM
If anyone has been following this case, you'd know that loli-h isn't the only thing the man browsed on the computer:

From the US Department of Justice's Press Release:
QuoteThe jury also convicted Whorley of receiving 14 digital photographs of real children engaging in sexually explicit conduct and of sending and receiving 20 obscene E-mails which graphically described, among other things, parents sexually molesting their own children.
(Full Text (http://animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=8536))

I severely doubt that possession of solely loli-h will incur any kind of serious legal action.
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Chun on March 13, 2006, 08:58:18 AM
Hmm. Now that I think about it, posting this thread when I was far from rested probably blurred my judgement a bit. I could have sworn I read that the other guys were convicted on loli-pron alone.

And according to what I read on the site, the law was altered to include drawn versions. Let me see if I can find that particular page...

~Chun
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tsubasa on March 13, 2006, 09:09:09 AM
QuoteThe 2003 Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to End the Exploitation of Children Today act (PROTECT - Public Law 108-21), defines computer images that are indistinguishable from real children engaging in sexually explicit conduct as child pornography, while simple drawings which are easily distinguishable from real children are not considered child pornography.
It all comes down to interpretation of the law by the jury.  Whether loli-h is considered close enough to real child pornography or not isn't set in stone.  Although, this case is setting an upsetting precedence.
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Cloudzero on March 15, 2006, 05:02:00 PM
I know a while back that hongfire reportedly took down their loli galleries and had a lot of people worried or whatnots, but then ruled later, due to a previous case (can't remember which)they looked up. It basically stated that it's too ambiguous to designate anyone in anime or cartoons too young or whatever. I'd quote it here, but I'm not sure how to access their news archives that far back
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Rabite on March 16, 2006, 09:30:30 AM
Real otaku herooooooos
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Jyunishinsho on March 16, 2006, 10:12:44 AM
Wait, so logically I can't like Dizzy anymore?!?!?!?!?!?
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: JorgeRPG077 on March 16, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
Quote from: JyunishinshoWait, so logically I can't like Dizzy anymore?!?!?!?!?!?

No Dizzy is a Healthy Girl hehehe. (I.E someone who has boobs and is age 18 and over)
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tsukai Mori on March 16, 2006, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: JyunishinshoWait, so logically I can't like Dizzy anymore?!?!?!?!?!?

I feel for you, but...
Wait! Does that mean I can't like Flonne anymore!?

"I'm 1316 years old"
"I never liked you anyway."
"Mori! You make me cry!"
"Go hug a tree!"
"I hug thee!"
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Spiritsnare on March 16, 2006, 08:08:32 PM
OoC

Quote from: Tsukai Mori
"Go hug a tree!"
"I hug thee!"

Best rhyme ever.
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tsukai Mori on March 16, 2006, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: SpiritsnareOoC

Quote from: Tsukai Mori
"Go hug a tree!"
"I hug thee!"

Best rhyme ever.

That's why it pays to be in Drama. Speak like Hamlet, act like a romantic, but in the realize that you're simply you, damnit!
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tsubasa on March 16, 2006, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: RyuHayabusa
Quote from: JyunishinshoWait, so logically I can't like Dizzy anymore?!?!?!?!?!?

No Dizzy is a Healthy Girl hehehe. (I.E someone who has boobs and is age 18 and over)
She's outwardly a healthy girl, but she's actually 3ish years old.
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: ~~Loktera~~ on March 18, 2006, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: Tuplica
my mind is leaping to not4chan...

>>Fixed.
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Kazuko on March 18, 2006, 09:38:09 PM
woah thats really sad D: even innocent panty shots? how very sad it is

wait...does that affect girls who like little boys too =O Nooooo D: Hakuuuuuu *dies*
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Tsubasa on March 19, 2006, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Kazukowait...does that affect girls who like little boys too =O Nooooo D: Hakuuuuuu *dies*
We call that a shota complex, miss. =P
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Chibblz on April 02, 2006, 08:59:11 AM
Chunnn~~ That affects you out of all people, huh~? ^.~

I find this hillarious... Getting arrested for looking at teh lollehz. XD
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Kyubi on April 02, 2006, 02:18:31 PM
oh no this means soon they will be editing out little Chio Chan NOOOOO!!!
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Chun on April 02, 2006, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: ChibblzChunnn~~ That affects you out of all people, huh~? ^.~

I find this hillarious... Getting arrested for looking at teh lollehz. XD

Hey, showing AIR this week was a GOOD IDEA!
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Spiritsnare on April 03, 2006, 06:51:44 AM
Quote from: Chun
Quote from: ChibblzChunnn~~ That affects you out of all people, huh~? ^.~

I find this hillarious... Getting arrested for looking at teh lollehz. XD

Hey, showing AIR this week was a GOOD IDEA!

...at least you guys actually show AIR.

Our anime club seems like it's literally unable to play the anime. (For this year, at least.)
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: otakuya on April 03, 2006, 10:59:48 AM
Um, was this supposed to be an April Fools Day joke?
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: YoureMyHiro on April 04, 2006, 02:41:51 AM
In any case, they'll have to pry all my loli-h media content from my cold dead hands as I tightly grip my comp although I dont really have a loli complex as much as I have moe issues  :wink: .
Title: Case Ruled: Loli in USA is now Illegal. AKA: Pantsu? Iyaaaaa
Post by: Cloudzero on April 05, 2006, 03:01:05 AM
Quote from: OtakuyaUm, was this supposed to be an April Fools Day joke?

Nope, this was an issue that came up a couple months ago. I have yet to see any results though.