I'm afraid this is going to get lost in the General Comments and Criticisms Thread, so I'll post it here.
I've been reading about the glomping issue, especially with this year. Stories about costumes ruined and so fourth because of glomping.
I got a good idea.
What I'd like to see is that Fanime issue their own "Yes, glomp me!" sticker/ribbon that you can stick on the bottom of your badge. When you go and register (either online or at the con), you can request one. That way, you can look at their badges to see if you they have already consented to be glomped. If they don't have the official sticker/ribbon given out by Fanime, you can't glomp them.
I honestly do not see how this would help. It is a good idea, but would someone with so few social graces as to be glomping without permission look at a person's badge for a sticker or a ribbon anyway? Often glomping is from behind or "Oh! I see a _____ cosplayer!" and then a sudden glomp, not "I wonder if that person is glompable..." and then making sure the person wants that rough physical contact.
FanimeCon can't officially issue out glomping stickers or ribbons for members due to liability issues. If a person got hurt but said "well Fanime said it was ok, here look at this sticker/ribbon", then we'd be up the creek with that. We can't condone glomping but we can turn a blind eye if glompers want quietly glomp each other.
The problem is, the glompers are harassing our other members who do not want to be bothered. This means that you guys need to sort it out without Fanime staff getting into it. We won't say yay or nay on anything (unless someone will seriously get hurt), but we can't help you or give you suggestions either. All I can say is I hope the glompers stick to their own group and leave the general members and staff alone.
it's a great idea in theory but honestly if those who are glomping are not currently caring to ask if it's ok, do you really think they'd care to check for stickers/ribbons on badges before glomping random people?
Damn, yeah, this year there was alot of issues with the glomping. It was a menace... People would really follow you as you walk down the halls wanting to be glomped. It's sorta weird for me to get used to since it's been my 4th year at Fanime, but this years was alot more than the others. I wonder what was up with that?
Blame Ebner.
But seriously, I think that the Glomping Menace hasn't been dealt with in the past and seriously needs to be adressed. It was bad enough that my Ocelot Costume was barely able to fit, but catching a glomper in mid-air and I nearly busted a seam (Thank god for military strength clothing).
Something must be done to cull this threat of all cosplay everywhere.
I wonder if it'd be ok if I had a sign that read "you can glomp me, but I get to punch you"..... Nah, my fist would be tired after a while. :)
just a joke folks.
I really did not notice this very much. I dunno, some people seem to have had it real bad. I guess at one point some crazy Death Note cosplayer tackled me from behind but that's kind of expected as I was cosplaying Light, and I think she was Misa, so that was mostly just a case of her being perfectly in character.
*Makes me wonder, though, about the potential if there were Yuuichi and AyuAyu cosplayers there.
The rest of the time, nobody glomped me unexpectedly or without permission. Was it really all that bad this year?
Yeah I never got glomped without permission, or even hugged. I mean I know I wasn't in a super awesome cosplay or anything....I was only crossdressed in a pink dress and stuff....but I didn't really see people getting glomped without permission.
HOWEVER I think there is one girl who should be carefully watched...she just screams and then goes over and gives people a sloppy glomp where she just jumps up slightly and wraps herself around the guy. That puts a lot of strain on the ankles, and it'd be really easy for someone to get a sprain, PLUS she didn't give them a real warning or allow themselves to brace properly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
Quote from: Ayanami Rei First ChildYeah I never got glomped without permission, or even hugged. I mean I know I wasn't in a super awesome cosplay or anything....I was only crossdressed in a pink dress and stuff....but I didn't really see people getting glomped without permission.
HOWEVER I think there is one girl who should be carefully watched...she just screams and then goes over and gives people a sloppy glomp where she just jumps up slightly and wraps herself around the guy. That puts a lot of strain on the ankles, and it'd be really easy for someone to get a sprain, PLUS she didn't give them a real warning or allow themselves to brace properly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
Holy shit, you're right.
(On a side note, where was she to glomp me? Well, not like that...)
Quote from: Ayanami Rei First ChildYeah I never got glomped without permission, or even hugged. I mean I know I wasn't in a super awesome cosplay or anything....I was only crossdressed in a pink dress and stuff....but I didn't really see people getting glomped without permission.
HOWEVER I think there is one girl who should be carefully watched...she just screams and then goes over and gives people a sloppy glomp where she just jumps up slightly and wraps herself around the guy. That puts a lot of strain on the ankles, and it'd be really easy for someone to get a sprain, PLUS she didn't give them a real warning or allow themselves to brace properly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
That's a frightening way to glomp. Someone could get seriously hurt if she caught them by total surprise.
I couldn't bear to watch the whole video because her behavior kind of reminds me too strongly of my creepy roommate... who, yes, will do that (especially to me, it seems) even though she's a full 100 pounds heavier than I. I'm sort of glad I didn't see this girl the whole weekend.
Quote from: ~~Loktera~~Blame Ebner.
But seriously, I think that the Glomping Menace hasn't been dealt with in the past and seriously needs to be adressed. It was bad enough that my Ocelot Costume was barely able to fit, but catching a glomper in mid-air and I nearly busted a seam (Thank god for military strength clothing).
Something must be done to cull this threat of all cosplay everywhere.
hmm good thing i wasn't around
you'de be left naked stripped from your clothes
when i'd be done glomping with you
Quote from: Ayanami Rei First ChildYeah I never got glomped without permission, or even hugged. I mean I know I wasn't in a super awesome cosplay or anything....I was only crossdressed in a pink dress and stuff....but I didn't really see people getting glomped without permission.
HOWEVER I think there is one girl who should be carefully watched...she just screams and then goes over and gives people a sloppy glomp where she just jumps up slightly and wraps herself around the guy. That puts a lot of strain on the ankles, and it'd be really easy for someone to get a sprain, PLUS she didn't give them a real warning or allow themselves to brace properly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
Good cthulu that is a horrible way to glomp. She jumps and hangs on to people who are HALF her size. She also grabs and hangs onto people's necks when glomping. There are many different ways she could hurt people that appear in that video. If I ever see somebody like that at fanime, they will get a talking too.
Quote from: GlitchQuote from: Ayanami Rei First Child
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
Good cthulu that is a horrible way to glomp. She jumps and hangs on to people who are HALF her size. She also grabs and hangs onto people's necks when glomping. There are many different ways she could hurt people that appear in that video. If I ever see somebody like that at fanime, they will get a talking too.
wow... i just have to say
... i need to glomp her...
she needs to know what a real glomp feels like
... to me.. all she's doing is flomping.. not glomping
anywaits a minute.. wasnt there a guy in that video who's one of us???
ayy...what's his name... >< ... T_T i forgot!!!
but yea..
she barely even tries to get some air into a glomp
she needs to really RUN.. JUMP.. TACKLEHUG -^^-
What was with all the signs between Dealer and Artist Alley?
Looked pretty sad... random people wanting hugs and looking at you as you walked by...
A hug is a special thing, after all.
~Chun
I recall being offered a few hugs while I was walking somewhere, but I politely told them "No, but thanks for offering" , so it wasn't a big deal for me.
A solution I have already proposed with my Rover co-staffers, but I will now offer it here. I suggested that with the glomping that if the person that you want to glomp is accompanied with a friend and you are also accompanied with a friend, one of you could approach that person's friend and ask privately if his/her friend is okay with glomps, and make your move based on the response. It's probably a little risky and won't work because you run the risk of an "I don't know" a lie, or no answer at all, but it's better to be safe than sorry. It's better to glomp someone who is okay with glomps than someone who isn't and can get seriously injured from being glomped.
Kind of like a compromise between the two sides(or three).
It's an idea I came up with after listening to a technique that some Rovers will attempt in order to provide beneficial services to the handicapped attendees yet at the same time, spare them from possible humiliation(e.g. finding out whether a non-handicapped woman is really overweight or just pregnant).
the thing is, i dont know why people would wanna hug me.
i bathe daily, but damn. 6:00 in the morning, sleep deprived, fanboy funk in full force. doesn't make for a good hug, imo, but still; this one girl was all cheery, offering, in her words, "MORNING HUG!"
wow. i obliged, but i still wonder why
I can tell you guys that it is something that many of the rovers tried to address while we were working.
Trouble is, a lot of people are stubborn and refuse to believe that not everyone wants to be glomped, and of course, they couldn't possibly be hurting anyone or their costumes, so why should they bother asking?
I think the big thing is that the glompers needed to get consent. Majorly needed to get consent. And not sit in the middle of the walkways in huge circles. If everyone in that circle is okay with it, then it's peachy, but they're still blocking walkways... even at four in the morning.
So... perhaps a better policy is the one that was proposed "You can glomp me... but I get to punch you... if you don't ask my permission first." ;)
Kidding! But seriously, that would be satisfying. "You wrecked my costume, b----!! Eat fist!"
I've been glomped and I've glomped some people. If I'm going to glomp something I always want to make sure they see me first so I don't catch them by surprise and run the risk of hurting anyone. If they don't want to be glomped I just don't glomp them.
Quote from: Ayanami Rei First ChildYeah I never got glomped without permission, or even hugged. I mean I know I wasn't in a super awesome cosplay or anything....I was only crossdressed in a pink dress and stuff....but I didn't really see people getting glomped without permission.
HOWEVER I think there is one girl who should be carefully watched...she just screams and then goes over and gives people a sloppy glomp where she just jumps up slightly and wraps herself around the guy. That puts a lot of strain on the ankles, and it'd be really easy for someone to get a sprain, PLUS she didn't give them a real warning or allow themselves to brace properly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
That was sexual harassment. Closer to sexual assault. That's the type of person that cosplayers need to report to ConOps and Rovers. Seeing this I'm GLAD I wasn't wearing my costume on Friday, because that's unacceptable.
I think that this year cosplayers need to take a stand against non-request glomps. It's getting out of hand, and unfortunately Fanime can't really issue a "glompzone" or the like.
I know this coming year I'm going to be reporting all of the unconsensual glomps I recieve. Asked for hugs are fine, but being glomped from behind in a mascot costume (I was the mudkipz), and being lifted into the air without permission (Big bear hug. x_X) are not fun experiences.
I've been glomped. . . once, I believe, while I was in an Allen Walker costume (filling in for my guy friend, who's actually pretty short and skinny). He failed to tell me that there were some people who glomped him everyday, and (since we look exactly the same from far away, wearing the wig and all) they came up to me and glomped me. o_o Of course, being a girl, I couldn't hold them up, so I fell down. @.@
Oh my. D: I never new glomping was such an issue. 81 This FanimeCon will be my first con EVER, so I'm glad I'm learning about this now, since I'm going to get really excited and maybe out of control. I'll need to watch my manners and energy while glomping people that are cosplaying as my favourite characters. x3;
Quote from: Myth on January 10, 2008, 02:11:09 PM
Oh my. D: I never new glomping was such an issue. 81 This FanimeCon will be my first con EVER, so I'm glad I'm learning about this now, since I'm going to get really excited and maybe out of control. I'll need to watch my manners and energy while glomping people that are cosplaying as my favourite characters. x3;
Or you could just, you know,
not do it all together.
Last year, I was somewhat Glomped, I'd find that a Glomper comes at you full force, but this one, I knew she has more power in her Glomping by her yell "It's the Laughing Man"
People, glomping isn't that big a deal; it's the glomping's style of execution that is.
Asking permission and then glomping (softly, people, be mindful of gravity and cosplays), is the right way.
randomly running and glomping hard is not. It all depends on execution.
Quote from: Ayanami Rei First Child on June 02, 2007, 06:47:22 PM
Yeah I never got glomped without permission, or even hugged. I mean I know I wasn't in a super awesome cosplay or anything....I was only crossdressed in a pink dress and stuff....but I didn't really see people getting glomped without permission.
HOWEVER I think there is one girl who should be carefully watched...she just screams and then goes over and gives people a sloppy glomp where she just jumps up slightly and wraps herself around the guy. That puts a lot of strain on the ankles, and it'd be really easy for someone to get a sprain, PLUS she didn't give them a real warning or allow themselves to brace properly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL8DLsEuc
Seriously...WRONG way to glomp.
Haha INNIN, ummm glomping for me well...this is bias and for some people will feel the same. Since Im build well I can take most glomps. Butyes, first off running around the con is not safe. *imagines running conner, trips over someone or something and falls off second floor...messy messy*...wow sorry. Second off, since not everyone is build like the hulk, sometimes your glomps can cause damage. Some people...like myself...have back injuries. I had a friend last year who had back surgery and if she got glomped well it would have been bad...grrr bad glompers.
Thoughs, what everyone else said. Ask, safer, funner, and less "Im going to kick your ass later"
Well if I get my cosplays done hopefully I wont get tanked, but shall see.
yeah but i got this feeling someone will say hi and hug me but put a sticker on my back and I dont like that >_<!
perhaps there should be like a constant 'announced' reminder from stage 0 or other announcement systems like posters to remind all con-goes that not all welcome 'glomps'
i can imagine a gigantic banner at the entrance reminding people to ask before glomping as a common courtesy first, unless they want to be called ermm 'ill-mannered' or worse, called barbaric for just a simple guesture of 'i like you!'
Ah... America.
Where companies, events, and organizers have to spend time and money reminding people...
TO NOT DO RETARDED AND RUDE THINGS TO OTHER PEOPLE
Fanime shouldn't have to tell anyone, or give out badges, or print stickers or anything of that sort to people. It should be common sense, apparently it isn't.
i've discussed something with my gf and i want to make and sell ( for very very cheep....25 cents an think)
"JUST ASK"
Buttons. its a movement I'd like to see started and would help move along. but that might be for another thread.
-and yes please, just ask. its common sense.=)
Quote from: dibbly on February 15, 2008, 05:50:20 PM
i've discussed something with my gf and i want to make and sell ( for very very cheep....25 cents an think)
"JUST ASK"
Buttons. its a movement I'd like to see started and would help move along. but that might be for another thread.
-and yes please, just ask. its common sense.=)
Unless you're in artists' alley you can't sell things legally.
And no. It's going out of your way to cater to idiocy. Idiots should have the logic to ask, and if not, they deserve what happens to them in return by people... it's simple as that. A button isn't going to stop people from doing something that COMMON SENSE tells them they shouldn't do.
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 15, 2008, 08:01:34 PM
Quote from: dibbly on February 15, 2008, 05:50:20 PM
i've discussed something with my gf and i want to make and sell ( for very very cheep....25 cents an think)
"JUST ASK"
Buttons. its a movement I'd like to see started and would help move along. but that might be for another thread.
-and yes please, just ask. its common sense.=)
Unless you're in artists' alley you can't sell things legally.
And no. It's going out of your way to cater to idiocy. Idiots should have the logic to ask, and if not, they deserve what happens to them in return by people... it's simple as that. A button isn't going to stop people from doing something that COMMON SENSE tells them they shouldn't do.
common sense is kinda funny, like the warning on cigarette packs that say things like,
warning contains carbon monoxide, may cause cancer, complicate child birth.
yeah, people do it anyway.
a friendly reminder may not stop some people, but will get get people thinking. as to catering to idiots, I'd rather look out for someones well being before letting the actual conflict happen. i'd go out of my way to let someone know, than to let someones safty, hard work, or personal space be put in jeopardy in the first place. after that they're on their own, but at least i tried=)
oh well, i can alway give them away and accept tips
Quote from: dibbly on February 15, 2008, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 15, 2008, 08:01:34 PM
Quote from: dibbly on February 15, 2008, 05:50:20 PM
i've discussed something with my gf and i want to make and sell ( for very very cheep....25 cents an think)
"JUST ASK"
Buttons. its a movement I'd like to see started and would help move along. but that might be for another thread.
-and yes please, just ask. its common sense.=)
Unless you're in artists' alley you can't sell things legally.
And no. It's going out of your way to cater to idiocy. Idiots should have the logic to ask, and if not, they deserve what happens to them in return by people... it's simple as that. A button isn't going to stop people from doing something that COMMON SENSE tells them they shouldn't do.
common sense is kinda funny, like the warning on cigarette packs that say things like, warning contains carbon monoxide, may cause cancer, complicate child birth.
yeah, people do it anyway.
a friendly reminder may not stop some people, but will get get people thinking. as to catering to idiots, I'd rather look out for someones well being before letting the actual conflict happen. i'd go out of my way to let someone know, than to let someones safty, hard work, or personal space be put in jeopardy in the first place. after that they're on their own, but at least i tried=)
oh well, i can alway give them away and accept tips
I agree, at least he's trying to do something about the problem, instead of sitting at the computer and griping.
i love random hugs, as long as people ask! human contact is the way we connect- you must be a lonely girl.
Quote from: dibbly on February 15, 2008, 11:56:08 PM
common sense is kinda funny, like the warning on cigarette packs that say things like, warning contains carbon monoxide, may cause cancer, complicate child birth.
yeah, people do it anyway.
a friendly reminder may not stop some people, but will get get people thinking. as to catering to idiots, I'd rather look out for someones well being before letting the actual conflict happen. i'd go out of my way to let someone know, than to let someones safty, hard work, or personal space be put in jeopardy in the first place. after that they're on their own, but at least i tried=)
oh well, i can alway give them away and accept tips
Not smoking isn't common sense, otherwise, not driving would be common sense.
warningcontains carbon monoxide cause cancer, complicate child birth... in addition to may be killed in car accidents etc. etc. etc.
Before people talk about "the dangers of smoking" know what you're talking about beyond the propoganda stuff you learn in school and watch on tv.
If you wanna waste the money to pass out badges, that's on you, but that might go against the no signs policy.
No, i'm pretty sure its just for the whoring signs, and these buttons wouldn't be whoring... not to mention, i would totally buy one!
And driving, as compared to smoking is a terrible analogy- because driving is something that makes our lives more convenient, we do it because the risks are worth it. While smoking does nothing positive for us, and if people had common sense they wouldn't do it-
Glomping without asking isn't common sense- but people are going to do it anyways. The difference is that dibbly is putting a warning label on it. I think it's a great idea- and if you have the funds Dibbly- i think you should do it!
Not to mention- but if he really wanted to sell them- he could do it at the swap meet!