Whatever AX does this year, we should take some of their ideas and make it better for us next year!
Now all we need is their money. Let's steal that too!
Seriously though, I was thinking of going down there and somehow getting in touch with Yoshiki & co to see if they'd like to do something with FanimeCon next year. Assuming I can get down there.
Quote from: TonyNow all we need is their money. Let's steal that too!
Seriously though, I was thinking of going down there and somehow getting in touch with Yoshiki & co to see if they'd like to do something with FanimeCon next year. Assuming I can get down there.
Uh... that's not really good business practice to approach them at AX and talk about fanime...
Quote from: PyronIkariQuote from: TonyNow all we need is their money. Let's steal that too!
Seriously though, I was thinking of going down there and somehow getting in touch with Yoshiki & co to see if they'd like to do something with FanimeCon next year. Assuming I can get down there.
Uh... that's not really good business practice to approach them at AX and talk about fanime...
Frankly other events come to us at Fanime and have discussed business opportunities and we have always made time for them. These types of discussions are not normally done at the lower levels of management, but at the upper levels, in which many of us normally schedule time to have these types of exchanges.
Craige...
Well, I for one would love to have a mini Matsuri or a Chibi Masquerade (at last year's AX this was done separately near the Matsuri on the upper level of the convention center). (And sorry, if we did have a Chibi Masquerade this year I did not see it).
Other than that, I can't think of anything else to ask for. What Fanime has to offer is fine by me, already.
Quote from: BunofGovtWell, I for one would love to have a mini Matsuri or a Chibi Masquerade (at last year's AX this was done separately near the Matsuri on the upper level of the convention center). (And sorry, if we did have a Chibi Masquerade this year I did not see it).
Other than that, I can't think of anything else to ask for. What Fanime has to offer is fine by me, already.
Uh yeah, I like the fact that Fanime isn't like AX. AX is too much about the industry, and not enough about the fans.
Quote from: phoenixphire24Uh yeah, I like the fact that Fanime isn't like AX. AX is too much about the industry, and not enough about the fans.
QFT. Besides, if I wanted to go to AX, I'd go to AX. Let Fanime be Fanime.
Quote from: StormfalconQuote from: phoenixphire24Uh yeah, I like the fact that Fanime isn't like AX. AX is too much about the industry, and not enough about the fans.
QFT. Besides, if I wanted to go to AX, I'd go to AX. Let Fanime be Fanime.
AX does have good ideas and how they produced them should always be of interest to Fanime, for without expansion any event will die.
Craige...
btw ...
Quote from: TonyNow all we need is their money. Let's steal that too!
Seriously though, I was thinking of going down there and somehow getting in touch with Yoshiki & co to see if they'd like to do something with FanimeCon next year. Assuming I can get down there.
Who are Yoshiki & co?
Quote from: BunofGovtbtw ...
Quote from: TonyNow all we need is their money. Let's steal that too!
Seriously though, I was thinking of going down there and somehow getting in touch with Yoshiki & co to see if they'd like to do something with FanimeCon next year. Assuming I can get down there.
Who are Yoshiki & co?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Japan
That should explain it somewhat lol
Ah. Thanks. I thought maybe they were behind the scenes at SPJA or something.
None of the X-Japan people outside of Yoshiki is going to AX. "SKIN" would be who "Yoshiki and co." is refering to. Though... it would be more about talking to Yoshiki, and Yoshiki getting the others to do so.
But on a higher level? Really, I could share some stories about certain AX guests that were absolutely disgusted when certain conventions asked them to appear, because it wasn't done professionally, nor properly.
(hint: some of these stories involve Fanime)
But that would be spreading bad rumors(though they're factual). This is what I refer to when I say it's bad practice.
Discussing guests on a business private level means behind the scenes, which to be honest, I know AX isn't going to setup for another convention. Because why would they do that... "Hey guys, we're going to setup a business like environment for you guys to steal guests that we have!!!" Not like we know this doesn't happen though, even though it's shady and bad business practice.
But what do I know about all of this right Craige? I'm just a peon that doesn't know anyone. Or more realistically, I'm close to a lot of people that do guest relations, and I've heard so many stories from translators/interpretors and actual guest relation heads of now and past that, mayhaps... I know more about guest relations than you do?
Though it's probably the prior. ^^ Trust me... you don't go to a con to try to convince guests of that con... to go to your con. Contact info... and trying to convince them via that in the future, yeah, that's understandable... but not at the con.
Quote from: PassingTheBuckQuote from: StormfalconQuote from: phoenixphire24Uh yeah, I like the fact that Fanime isn't like AX. AX is too much about the industry, and not enough about the fans.
QFT. Besides, if I wanted to go to AX, I'd go to AX. Let Fanime be Fanime.
AX does have good ideas and how they produced them should always be of interest to Fanime, for without expansion any event will die.
Craige...
True, Fanime should grow. However, we shouldn't become a clone of AX in the process.
Quote from: PyronIkariBut on a higher level? Really, I could share some stories about certain AX guests that were absolutely disgusted when certain conventions asked them to appear, because it wasn't done professionally, nor properly.
I've heard some too, though not specific to Fanime. Send me a PM!
Anyway, if a guest were "absolutely disgusted" by how we would approach them, then they're not right for Fanime. I'd hate to see how such a person would react when they're solicited for a hug.
Of course, I'm not gonna go to some convention with numbers and contracts in hand; I'll just come with a few business cards and an open schedule.
Unless I meet miyavi, in which case I'm going to give him a lock of my hair and have him sign my chest, because I will so yaoi him. :D
QuoteBut what do I know about all of this right Craige? I'm just a peon that doesn't know anyone.
I would give Craige the benefit of the doubt. I believe he's been running cons, of many types, longer than you've been alive.
I agree with the idea for Chibi Masq. though. I saw a lot of people with kick-ass costumes, but didn't have a skit at Der Cosplay. It'd be a cool time to showcase awesome skits or costumes with mini prizes. :3 Maybe something for Stage Zero?
That Last Comic Standing event @ AX sounds cool, too.
Other than that, I don't really see much AX has that Fanime doesn't (besides ultra-famous guests and all that industry crap).
It's been discussed that Fanime can't really get much bigger unless it gets shipped to San Francisco. It it went to the Moscone Centre, there would be no close hotel support.
I remember having a conversation with a guest of honor this year who told me that they didn't like attending AX because it was just too much to handle. That begs the question: what if every con was like AX? Japanese guests get the big break. Coming to an American convention where they really get to relax is comforting to them in comparison of having their fans demand so much of them in Japan or cities where the culture is influenced heavily in. American guests also prefer smaller cons so it's easier to meet alot of their fans, like one would enjoy themselves in a small town.
I think in all seriousness, I'd love to see more interactive stuff at Fanime next year, especially with Stage Zero programming...
Maybe or maybe not that other conventions have ideas going around...
Quote from: Ska_KittiIt's been discussed that Fanime can't really get much bigger unless it gets shipped to San Francisco. It it went to the Moscone Centre, there would be no close hotel support. ...
PLEASE let's keep close hotel support!!!
Do we have something like the Model Contest? Sounds fun.
Plus some of the panels (like the Gundam Models & Resin Building Seminar) looks like it extends over a few days. I like the idea of a seminar vs a panel.
For example: What if we had a panel on cosplay that covered different areas of cosplay but over two or three days? I know we had a few cosplay panels this year on different topics, but if we had one that covered drafting an outfit (or figuring out the basic structure), then finding the materials, then piecing it together, then final touches, or something like that. It'd still be okay to go to ANY of the panels, but a novice cosplayer would benefit from going to ALL of the panels.
Um, rambling again, it's early. :oops:
The only thing I want from AX is the dubbing competition. I'd love to see that this coming Fanime. No, really, I'd love to try it out and see how well it goes. Please consider! *Prays
Stage Zero does an amazing amount of stuff, I loved how you're just passing by and then all of a sudden you're sitting in a chair at the stage screaming your head off. This may sound like a broken record, but I would love to see Stage Zero grow and have more to offer. Of course, by getting larger, they may need their own space, because there is a major traffic zone there. But I'd still go none the less.
My fondest memories are of stage zero. lol More contests! lol
Quote from: Makou on October 29, 2007, 10:01:25 PM
The only thing I want from AX is the dubbing competition. I'd love to see that this coming Fanime. No, really, I'd love to try it out and see how well it goes. Please consider! *Prays
Is that really AX-exclusive? SacAnime Summer last year had a panel with Crispin Freeman which was sort of a "Dub your own anime" thing.. Not quite a competition, I think, but it could probably easily be turned into one. Guests of Honor tend to have panels and stuff anyway, so an event/panel with a VA guest MCing a dubbing competition would be pretty fun.
Why would you want any ideas from those incompetent f*cks?
Quote from: darkstar on January 28, 2008, 04:21:33 PM
Why would you want any ideas from those incompetent f*cks?
Um, because regardless of their customer service debacles, AX is the convention that many of the Industry's leaders go to in order to make key announcements regarding licenses.
I'm with Pyron on the whole "not being professional to approach people during the con" thing...of course, it being long since AX finished I don't see why Fanime can't see what AX did wrong this last year and try to make Fanime a more welcoming environment for industry leaders to come and share the exciting news of upcoming releases.
That is, if the industry is still around in May...those of you following the ADV panic on Anime News Network will know what I'm talking about.
Quote from: FanFicGuru on January 28, 2008, 08:14:13 PM
That is, if the industry is still around in May...those of you following the ADV panic on Anime News Network will know what I'm talking about.
I'm still waiting to see if there's a follow-up before panicking
It seems to me a lot of the industry folk go to Anime North during the time Fanime rolls around, since we hold the same con dates. Darn Canadia.
And I don't know if AX show fansubs (didn't bother checking screening rooms), because it seems more like what a "by fans, for fans" con would do, rather than an industy con like AX. If we'd have to remove controversial media like fansubs from our programming just to attract more industy folks, then I don't think it's worth it.
Seriously, trying to turn Fanime into a big industry trade show like AX is not in anybody's best interests.