I would like to work at the Maid Cafe during Fanime 08. I have a gothic lolita maid cosplay and can impersonate young Japanese school girls.
Where do I sign up for this? ???
I want to do it this year :o I didn't really follow up last year so could not do it! >_<
You can send an inquiry to
[email protected].
Hi ladies and gents
As a reminder this is NOT an official sign up.
As of yet, we are planning to open up Maid volunteers soon.
please wait until AFTER our next official general Fanime Staff meeting
which I believe is not until. um...
Sunday Janurary 6 2008 um. somewhere in the Marriot.
Please stand-by until we get an official thread started by Sydney, aka board name- Mai-chan.
Thanks for your patience and interest in this project. :D
Quote from: Gothik-Tenkasen on December 04, 2007, 07:51:35 PM
I would like to work at the Maid Cafe during Fanime 08. I have a gothic lolita maid cosplay and can impersonate young Japanese school girls.
Where do I sign up for this? ???
A couple of things wrong with this.
Gothic Lolita != Maid. Unless you plan on being some kind specialy kinda maid(an extreme personality type some what cold-hearted and otherwise void of emotion), then Gothic Lolita is not the look you're going after.
Secondly.
How does one impersonate a young Japanese school girl. I'm morbidly curious how this takes place. Because not only are you conveniently categorizing "Japanese school girl" as a personality type, you're looking down on the majority of Japan's culture by stating you can mimic how a JP girl is, based on your knowledge of what seemingly seems to be, a little bit of music, some comics that you read, and some cartoons that you watch.
So how do you "impersonate a young Japanese school girl"?
Oh if the maidcafe heads are reading. This was an issue of a many people last year. The "maid costumes" weren't really maid costumes. Only 1 of them was close to it, and the others were more gothic-lolita in design, than "maid uniform". Majority of people can't tell the difference(as the majority doesn't even know what gothic-lolita really is...) but it is a minor issue. Unless you're going to have them play the role of a loli-goth chara.
Training issues: here's the fun one. You can't just trainset all of the maids to be exactly the same, well... you can... but... it's hard for certain people to all act the same. Chara-type maids are often used to display more fitting personalities. The proper estute maid, the energetic helpful maid, the quiet one, the motherly type, etc. etc. etc. I mentioned this in an e-mail to someone, and I never got a reply, nor was it ever brought up again last year.
[Ha Ha! Edited!]
nothing official has happened or been announced yet...
we'll wait until after the Fanime general staff meeting on Jan 6th.
and as soon as we hear from more concrete sources, We'll hopefully have a meeting so that we could discuss all of this in person to person in a round table.
please be patient and hopefully we'll get to these concerns and matters once we begin to actually get aquainted with each other.
crossing our fingers which may or may not be soon. :P
until then have a good new year everyone.
Whoo! Can't wait ^^
Much labu for the Maid Cafe
at some point - we'll have to gather up all interested and hold our own meeting aside from the main fanime staff meetings.
Feel free to contact me or post here if you are interested in the project.
I believe from last estimates were looking for about approximately 30~40 maid and any other staff that would be interested to help out.
again all on a volunteer/un-paid basis.
So thanks again for showing interested in this "little" project. :D
x: spiffy
but really How does Lolita fashion = Maid? or cosplay? because really
IT DOESN'T
sure there are lolita esque maid outfits but thats it =\
I just hope the outfits for the maid cafe are actually a bit better this year and more maid like
I participated last year, and I think I might do it again this year. However, it's kind of still up in the air because I'm also staffing this year, doing masquerade stuff, and scrambling to gatherings etc.
we'll probably have extended hours compared to last year.
so any or all help is much appreciated.
I miss working for Masquerade though...
ah those were the days... :P
(reliving the life of a ninja stage monkey)
Ooh i want to help out with the cafe. Any excuse to dress up cute is fine by me hehe ;). i'll check back for the official sign up. or you can always email me <3
Quote from: Jecca on January 23, 2008, 12:50:24 PM
Ooh i want to help out with the cafe. Any excuse to dress up cute is fine by me hehe ;). i'll check back for the official sign up. or you can always email me <3
See... this is a bad mentallity to have for the project, and could be rather deprimental. It's more than just dressing up.
You have to present and act yourself in a specific manner. It's not just an excuse to put on a maid uniform and pretend you're a waitress. Even though it's volunteer work, you have to have the mentallity to actually do a job, and do a job very dilligently.
Who said that she wasn't going to? She just said that she likes to dress up cute, and there's really nothing wrong with that. Even if there's hard work to do, there are plenty of perks to being a maid, I'm sure, and you don't really have to jump on her because she wants to enjoy one aspect of being a maid in a cafe. =/
I thought anime conventions and all the events that go on inside them were meant to be, oh, I dunno, fun?
thanks for the back-up ph1sh! :P I never said it was just about dressing up, or id just cosplay during fanime and not have to put in all the hard work im sure the volunteers did last year. Please don't misunderstand or read too much into the post. I think it the cafe was ment to be fun. You can look cute and have fun while doing your best to do your job and create an experience for all of the guests of the cafe. Thats what i think they benefit from, if we don't enjoy ourselves how can they? The outfit is a perk to me, not the main goal. Lighten up pyron.
"Fun" doesn't mean lack of order nor lack of decent thought.
Who said she wasn't going to? Her obviously if all that she felt worth mentioning was "looking cute". People jump into things and don't realize what they are, and do a half assed job all the time, sometimes it's not their fault but their superiors, and sometimes it is their fault. To be honest...
The only reason girls work at Maid Cafes is because it pays really well for the job. I honestly don't see what "perks" there are. Volunteering for something half-assedly is actually worse than not volunteering for something for many reasons. You hinder those that are actually trying to work hard(getting in the way of other maids, taking over tables and doing a bad job at it etc.), you may take up a spot that someone else wanted that would have worked hard and did understand the role, that it's "not just for fun" and that a lot of real work is involved, and you may reflect the project poorly as a whole.
So if someone is so eager to jump into this and point out nothing more than "LOLOLOL I WANNA LOOK CUTE" that person might want to first understand what goes into a project, and understand that it might not be just fun and looking cute. Despite being successful last year in terms of numbers, it did exactly what I said would happen. It would reflect poorly to anyone that knew what Maid Cafes were like, and that in turn reflects Fanime poorly. Sure, it's not huge, it's not going to make people stop coming to the con, but that's not the point really. Fanime shouldn't be doing shotty projects and doing things half-assedly. No con should.
Volunteering isn't easy work, people shouldn't take it lightly.
Thanks for being interested Jecca, but again unfortunately I havent heard anything official as of yet.
Please PM me your e-mail and/or contact info (aim sn or watever)
or feel free to contact me via my profile.
Just play nice you guys :P
Pyron, again, no one was trying to say that they were going to ditch all responsibility and do a shoddy job just for the sake of some fun. I mean, people talk about how "fun" cosplaying is all the time. And yeah, it can be really fun. But do people talk about all the work that goes into constructing a good costume? They may point out some of the difficulties they had while making the costume, but most people who really enjoy cosplaying are quicker to point out how well their photos came out, or perhaps how much fun it was meeting other cosplayers from their series. Does that at all change how much time and effort they put into the costume? Probably not, and if people can tell that the costume was well-made, then they're appreciating the effort that the person put into making it.
I can understand complaining about a job poorly done AFTER its been done, but complaining about/assuming a half-assed job before it's even happened? That's a bit harsh, don't you think? After reading this thread I know you were burned by last year's Maid Cafe because of how inaccurately it portrayed actual Maid Cafes, but you really don't have to try to shut down every bit of optimism people may have for a hopefully-improved Cafe this year.
This is just an interest thread. Just because someone says that they think it'd be fun to look cute or because they're just casually interested in the event, doesn't mean they're making a commitment to be as ignorant or lazy a volunteer as possible. Once the planning gets underway, people can choose to commit to this task despite how difficult it may be, and if they still want to follow through with volunteering even after they've done their research, I think it'd be safe to say that they'll take their job seriously enough.
And just because there aren't many perks for working as a maid in a cafe in Japan, doesn't guarantee that there won't be any perks for volunteering as a maid in a cafe in an American anime convention. The staff may try to imitate Japanese Maid Cafes as closely as possible, but they still won't be able to change the environmental and cultural factors that will probably surround the event. If the volunteer maids at Fanime's maid cafe end up having a great time working there, there's definitely a chance that it won't be because they were slacking off or just enjoyed showing off their pretty dresses. Even while working hard, they might have a great time accommodating appreciative anime fans.
Like Jecca said, lighten up. It really isn't impossible to have fun while still working hard and creating a really enjoyable and generally accurate Maid Cafe.
Unless, of course, pulling long, exhausting hours devoid of any enjoyment whatsoever is an integral part of the cultural accuracy of imitating a Maid Cafe. =/
Quote from: ph1shf00d on January 23, 2008, 08:25:55 PM
Pyron, again, no one was trying to say that they were going to ditch all responsibility and do a shoddy job just for the sake of some fun. I mean, people talk about how "fun" cosplaying is all the time. And yeah, it can be really fun. But do people talk about all the work that goes into constructing a good costume? They may point out some of the difficulties they had while making the costume, but most people who really enjoy cosplaying are quicker to point out how well their photos came out, or perhaps how much fun it was meeting other cosplayers from their series. Does that at all change how much time and effort they put into the costume? Probably not, and if people can tell that the costume was well-made, then they're appreciating the effort that the person put into making it.
This is such a poor analogy I don't even know why you stated it. You're comparing end result, to doing something because of getting to where the costume while doing it. It's like stating "I want to be a fireman... because I like what the costume looks like". Your example is. "Eating a cake you baked yourself is good".
QuoteI can understand complaining about a job poorly done AFTER its been done, but complaining about/assuming a half-assed job before it's even happened? That's a bit harsh, don't you think? After reading this thread I know you were burned by last year's Maid Cafe because of how inaccurately it portrayed actual Maid Cafes, but you really don't have to try to shut down every bit of optimism people may have for a hopefully-improved Cafe this year.
You still don't get it do you? You go into something with a mentallity. People are going into this with a mentallity of "OH HEY IT'S FUN MAID CAFE I DRESS UPS AND I ACT CUTES IT WILL BE SO AWESOMES!" despite not knowing a damned thing about what they have to do, how they're supposed to act, the entire point and purpose, or anything like that. It's not about crushing enthusiasm, it's about making people understand what exactly they're doing. Want to know a major issue with last year? Maid's complained because they felt it was sexist and degrading to call customers "master". LOOK AT THE JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR. You volunteered to be a maid, and you don't want to call someone master?
If you have a little "wow fun fun fun this will be fun because I will be cutes and wear a dress" attitude, frankly, I personally don't think you'll do a good job because that attitude reflects a lot of what you think about the project as a whole. Sure, you could be totally different, but hey... I'm looking at it realistically. It's like someone going into a job interview at a game company and going "I love video games, they are my life, they are so great, I want to work on games so much because I love them!" Chances are, they won't get hired, because they show that they think their job is a play field, more than work, and dedication.
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This is just an interest thread. Just because someone says that they think it'd be fun to look cute or because they're just casually interested in the event, doesn't mean they're making a commitment to be as ignorant or lazy a volunteer as possible. Once the planning gets underway, people can choose to commit to this task despite how difficult it may be, and if they still want to follow through with volunteering even after they've done their research, I think it'd be safe to say that they'll take their job seriously enough.
See above about how maid's complained about "having to do things".
QuoteAnd just because there aren't many perks for working as a maid in a cafe in Japan, doesn't guarantee that there won't be any perks for volunteering as a maid in a cafe in an American anime convention. The staff may try to imitate Japanese Maid Cafes as closely as possible, but they still won't be able to change the environmental and cultural factors that will probably surround the event. If the volunteer maids at Fanime's maid cafe end up having a great time working there, there's definitely a chance that it won't be because they were slacking off or just enjoyed showing off their pretty dresses. Even while working hard, they might have a great time accommodating appreciative anime fans.
Yes, they can enjoy themselves while working. Here, I'll put it into realistics as to why things like this exist. And hell, I'll even use a great example to retrospect it.
Culture week in Japan. A class puts a maid cafe on as their class theme. Chances are, according to who organizes it, will show the accuracy as to what the maid cafe will be, and as to what they're aiming for. Now, it's a LOT of work for these classes to put these events on, and each class member has to put in a lot of time and effort into doing it. Why do they do it? Because they support and care about their class, and they want to share the experience with friends and classmates... but regardless they go into it, KNOWING there will be a lot of hardwork, and a lot of effort that needs to be put in.
Now in that situation, people are enthusiastic and want to do it, that's great... that's what is supposed to happen and what people are supposed to get out of it.
Let's look at it from a different perspective now. You're throwing a play, and the lead role is a princess. Someone jumps out and goes "I want to do the lead role because I want to wear the princess dress!" Are you going to go "YAY YOU, YOU CAN DO IT THEN!" If you do, then I fear for the casting and production of the play.
Frankly, if her main focus is to wear a maid dress... then her head is definitely in the wrong place when considering joining a project like this, and seriously, she's probably wasting her time and should just wear a made costume and walk around the halls and enjoy the con. If she wants to support the idea/project and work dilligently and learn how to act and actually put a lot of effort into this project, then that's a different story.
QuoteLike Jecca said, lighten up. It really isn't impossible to have fun while still working hard and creating a really enjoyable and generally accurate Maid Cafe.
Unless, of course, pulling long, exhausting hours devoid of any enjoyment whatsoever is an integral part of the cultural accuracy of imitating a Maid Cafe. =/
You can have fun, but you should still have a good mentallity of what you're getting into before you jump at it. You know... look before you leap? Because volunteering into a project and dropping out half way is worse then never joining at all.
Quote from: PyronIkari on January 23, 2008, 08:54:07 PM
This is such a poor analogy I don't even know why you stated it. You're comparing end result, to doing something because of getting to where the costume while doing it. It's like stating "I want to be a fireman... because I like what the costume looks like". Your example is. "Eating a cake you baked yourself is good".
Why? Because they're similar enough. They're certainly not the same, but regardless, both require plenty of work in order to produce a good result. For cosplay, it's a good costume. For a maid cafe, it's an authentic experience/excellent customer service. The focus isn't on who is doing what, it's what you'll do in order to produce your desired result.
Sorry if my lack of debating skills aren't up to your standards. =/
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You still don't get it do you? You go into something with a mentallity. People are going into this with a mentallity of "OH HEY IT'S FUN MAID CAFE I DRESS UPS AND I ACT CUTES IT WILL BE SO AWESOMES!" despite not knowing a damned thing about what they have to do, how they're supposed to act, the entire point and purpose, or anything like that. It's not about crushing enthusiasm, it's about making people understand what exactly they're doing. Want to know a major issue with last year? Maid's complained because they felt it was sexist and degrading to call customers "master". LOOK AT THE JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR. You volunteered to be a maid, and you don't want to call someone master? [/size]
What's so wrong with holding that mentality if it's enough to get a good job done? If people are that determined to have fun dressing in cute clothes and playing the part of a maid in a maid cafe, then as long as they work to the best of their ability and fulfill the standards required of them, is it such a big deal? If they're willing to learn everything about being a maid in a maid cafe, if they work diligently in all of their training in order to be the most accurate imitation of a maid possible, is it that bad that they were interested in this job because of frilly bows and dresses?
And if they don't know about what working as a maid entails, would it be that terrible to, you know, TEACH them? I'm sure plenty of people are willing to learn everything they need to learn to make the Maid Cafe accurate as possible. There will probably be lots of people dropping out once they get some preliminary info, sure, but there will also probably be people who still want to follow through.
Last year was the first time Fanime did the Maid Cafe so whatever went on then can probably be fixed for this year. Just because last year's maid weren't as well-trained or informed as they were supposed to be, doesn't mean that this year's volunteers will be the same way. From what I heard, the Maid Cafe was a fairly popular event despite all of its shortcomings. There will probably be people who are interested in it again this year. There might be people who saw all the shortcomings of last year's MC who want to come back this year to try to make it better. Either way, it's going to be different people and a different way of doing things.
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If you have a little "wow fun fun fun this will be fun because I will be cutes and wear a dress" attitude, frankly, I personally don't think you'll do a good job because that attitude reflects a lot of what you think about the project as a whole. Sure, you could be totally different, but hey... I'm looking at it realistically. It's like someone going into a job interview at a game company and going "I love video games, they are my life, they are so great, I want to work on games so much because I love them!" Chances are, they won't get hired, because they show that they think their job is a play field, more than work, and dedication.
Realistically? Maybe. How about with a more open mind?
Yes, your attitude can affects how well you do the job. However, I don't see how enjoying dresses and looking cute is that far detached from working in a maid cafe. Is it because I'm just another ignorant weeaboo? Yeah, sure, that might just be it. That aside, people think maids are endearing, which is probably a part of the reason why maid cafes are so popular. So when a fangirl thinks working in a maid cafe would be fun because of the attention and because it's "cute," they're not totally far from the truth. If the volunteer thinks that the job is about wearing pretty dresses and being a cute maid, then let them. The problem is if they don't pull through with acting the "maid" part and are just in it for the superficial reasons. But like I said earlier, I really don't think it matters that much what the volunteer thinks
if they're willing to work hard to get the maid part down. If someone is that willing to work that hard to achieve their goal of wearing pretty dresses and acting like a cute maid for a bunch of customers, then where's the problem?
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Yes, they can enjoy themselves while working. Here, I'll put it into realistics as to why things like this exist. And hell, I'll even use a great example to retrospect it.
Culture week in Japan. A class puts a maid cafe on as their class theme. Chances are, according to who organizes it, will show the accuracy as to what the maid cafe will be, and as to what they're aiming for. Now, it's a LOT of work for these classes to put these events on, and each class member has to put in a lot of time and effort into doing it. Why do they do it? Because they support and care about their class, and they want to share the experience with friends and classmates... but regardless they go into it, KNOWING there will be a lot of hardwork, and a lot of effort that needs to be put in.
Now in that situation, people are enthusiastic and want to do it, that's great... that's what is supposed to happen and what people are supposed to get out of it.
Let's look at it from a different perspective now. You're throwing a play, and the lead role is a princess. Someone jumps out and goes "I want to do the lead role because I want to wear the princess dress!" Are you going to go "YAY YOU, YOU CAN DO IT THEN!" If you do, then I fear for the casting and production of the play.
Frankly, if her main focus is to wear a maid dress... then her head is definitely in the wrong place when considering joining a project like this, and seriously, she's probably wasting her time and should just wear a made costume and walk around the halls and enjoy the con. If she wants to support the idea/project and work dilligently and learn how to act and actually put a lot of effort into this project, then that's a different story.
If all she wanted to do was to wear a maid dress to a convention, I doubt she would've posted here in the first place. There's the cosplay forum for that. Most anime fans have an idea of what a maid cafe is like, even if it isn't perfectly accurate. However it's portrayed in anime is appealing, and I'm sure plenty of people are interested in learning more about that experience, the people in this thread included.
I think you were taking Jecca's response too literally. When she says "any excuse to wear a dress," I'm pretty sure she wasn't trying to say "I'm just in it for the pretty dress, screw the hard work." The maid outfit might be one reason why she wants to participate, but it certainly may not be the only one. A lot of girls will probably be attracted to the maid cafe because of the dresses, but some of them will probably end up being genuinely interested in the experience of working as a maid too. But again, just because their initial attraction was because of something superficial, doesn't mean that the rest of their reasons for working in a maid cafe will be the same.
I'm guessing you've never worked a real job before have you?
QuoteWhat's so wrong with holding that mentality if it's enough to get a good job done? If people are that determined to have fun dressing in cute clothes and playing the part of a maid in a maid cafe, then as long as they work to the best of their ability and fulfill the standards required of them, is it such a big deal? If they're willing to learn everything about being a maid in a maid cafe, if they work diligently in all of their training in order to be the most accurate imitation of a maid possible, is it that bad that they were interested in this job because of frilly bows and dresses?
And if they don't know about what working as a maid entails, would it be that terrible to, you know, TEACH them? I'm sure plenty of people are willing to learn everything they need to learn to make the Maid Cafe accurate as possible. There will probably be lots of people dropping out once they get some preliminary info, sure, but there will also probably be people who still want to follow through.
Last year was the first time Fanime did the Maid Cafe so whatever went on then can probably be fixed for this year. Just because last year's maid weren't as well-trained or informed as they were supposed to be, doesn't mean that this year's volunteers will be the same way. From what I heard, the Maid Cafe was a fairly popular event despite all of its shortcomings. There will probably be people who are interested in it again this year. There might be people who saw all the shortcomings of last year's MC who want to come back this year to try to make it better. Either way, it's going to be different people and a different way of doing things.
When you do something, you can't screw it up and go "oh well, it'll be better next year" in the real world... and you CAN'T have that attitude(rather you shouldn't to be literal). You seemed to have not followed what I said. Last year, people were taught what to do on a very basic level, AND THEY COMPLAINED AND MANY REFUSED TO DO IT.
OH But how do you know she'll be like that? That's what you're going to say right? You don't... and that's the point. You don't know if they're going to, or not going to be like that. But the attitude she is showing is not a good one to head into any kind of project like this. If they're excited, or eager to join a project and state a reason that is very minor to that project, it shows their interest... ISN'T the project itself. If she wants to help out fanime and join and do something with others and have fun, then that's one thing. But her statement of reasoning was "I want to put on pretty clothes!" Which realistically shows a lot about her mentallity and her reasonings. She might be a great volunteer, but the attitude she's showing right now isn't a good one.
I "tried" to teach people last year, the basic reply I got was " Go to hell we don't care about you or what you have to say because we don't want to listen". What you're saying is that, Fanime should learn from their mistakes right? Then those volunteering should understand what they're getting into, because last year, it ended up being a problem. There, now we're doing what you said right?
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Realistically? Maybe. How about with a more open mind?
Yes, your attitude can affects how well you do the job. However, I don't see how enjoying dresses and looking cute is that far detached from working in a maid cafe. Is it because I'm just another ignorant weeaboo? Yeah, sure, that might just be it. That aside, people think maids are endearing, which is probably a part of the reason why maid cafes are so popular. So when a fangirl thinks working in a maid cafe would be fun because of the attention and because it's "cute," they're not totally far from the truth. If the volunteer thinks that the job is about wearing pretty dresses and being a cute maid, then let them. The problem is if they don't pull through with acting the "maid" part and are just in it for the superficial reasons. But like I said earlier, I really don't think it matters that much what the volunteer thinks if they're willing to work hard to get the maid part down. If someone is that willing to work that hard to achieve their goal of wearing pretty dresses and acting like a cute maid for a bunch of customers, then where's the problem?
Uhm... when the job is completely customer service, what the maid thinks is very important. How they act, what they're willing to do, not willing to do, personal morals, thoughts, actions, comfort... Yes all of those matter. So "working hard" doesn't mean a thing if they refuse to do parts of the job. Or have an attitude towards doing things.
QuoteIf all she wanted to do was to wear a maid dress to a convention, I doubt she would've posted here in the first place. There's the cosplay forum for that. Most anime fans have an idea of what a maid cafe is like, even if it isn't perfectly accurate. However it's portrayed in anime is appealing, and I'm sure plenty of people are interested in learning more about that experience, the people in this thread included.
No they don't. It's watered down in anime so you don't realize half of it. Especially according to which cartoons/comics you watch/read. This is a big point of mine. Ignorance. People jump into something because they're ignorant, then bitch and whine when they learn what the job is like.
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I think you were taking Jecca's response too literally. When she says "any excuse to wear a dress," I'm pretty sure she wasn't trying to say "I'm just in it for the pretty dress, screw the hard work." The maid outfit might be one reason why she wants to participate, but it certainly may not be the only one. A lot of girls will probably be attracted to the maid cafe because of the dresses, but some of them will probably end up being genuinely interested in the experience of working as a maid too. But again, just because their initial attraction was because of something superficial, doesn't mean that the rest of their reasons for working in a maid cafe will be the same.
Obviously it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but it is a show of her mindset and mentallity on the project. But it's not hard, simply she can just prove me wrong, and be dilligent about the whole thing and show real interest and a strong mentallity about it all.
Why are you sitting here trying to defend her? Playing internet white knight that fun? Trying to protect a girl to prove something?
I work in HR (Human Resources) I wonder if some of you are rolling your eyes at me.
Everyday at my job, I work with employees from all walks of life and sometimes the job is a fit and sometimes it isnt.
Being informed and having proper training is very important of course, even in this business I've tried to adapt to make things better... but some changes cant happen over night. Thats just my opinion.
No matter much we try, I know we can't please everyone. Whether its a Anime Convention or a fortune 500 company - try sourcing for Google and having them ACTUALLY selecting my candidate :D
Just because " I'd like to dress up cute " could be interpreted a million plus one ways doesnt mean she has the wrong mentality. She probably needs more information about the project. If anything she was just being a girl and being diabetically sweet... I've seen female candidates interview like this before. :P
I dont seem to mind, but obviously some ppl out there dislike sugar... who knows.
However I could say there are better things to say during an interview. You'd be surprised with the things ppl say nowadays to try and get jobs.
Anyway, all debate aside. I'm glad ppl are interested and please keep posting ur thoughts and questions. contact me if wish.
Since I'm always wrong. I'll try to get more info as it becomes available. :)
Pyron, I'm not going to through and reply to your argument bit by bit.
I will answer that last question, though.
I'm "whiteknighting" her just because I'm against your overall attitude over this. You said it yourself- attitude greatly reflects how a person's going to do a job or how they're going to approach the problem. In that case, it seems like your attitude reflects how much you hate the idea of a Maid Cafe in Fanime, because honestly, all you've been doing is criticizing (which isn't that bad- people learn from criticism) and, more importantly, discouraging potential volunteers. I'm not talking about revealing what being a maid really entails, but with your mentality that these people are going to do a shitty job with this event.
Just because the Maid Cafe had a disorganized and inaccurate run last year, doesn't mean that every volunteer this year is going to be a bitchy, whiny, lazy, and sloppy maid like they presumably were last year. It's uncalled for to criticize interested people for simply showing interest, no matter where those interests may lie. And I still think you're looking too far into what some of the people say on these forums. It seriously sounds like you're totally sure that someone is a lazy and unfocused coquette who couldn't do a good job at working hard just because they say they like dresses.
If you don't want a Maid Cafe at Fanime, just say so. Create another thread about how you think the maid cafe is a bad idea and how resources from that possible event could go to another one instead of creating a failure like the one last year. Maybe if you're nice about it, people will agree with you. And hey, you might get enough support to get rid of this event and you'd be achieving your goal. If that isn't your mentality on this event, well, hell, how was I supposed to know? Shutting down potential volunteers and bitching about how shitty the staff was last year certainly paints the image that you hate the idea of another maid cafe at Fanime.
It's unlikely that you'll ever end your ceaseless bitching of the planning of this event, so it'd be futile for me to try to suggest that you stop your involvement with it. I will ask that you stop being so hostile to some of the people who are simply EXPRESSING AN INTEREST in this event. Castigating them simply because their interest in working at a maid cafe is different from yours is just narrow minded and unproductive, and we could probably do without any of that.
Le sigh... another repeat pointless and baseless attack -_-.
If I wanted the Maid Cafe removed, I wouldn't be posting about it on the forums, and would have taken it straight to staff with a million and one reasons as to why it shouldn't happen. Instead, I wouldn't be talking about how people are doing it wrong, and pointed out what they should be focusing on, ways to make it better, and the important factors of a maid cafe. I wouldn't have sent staff e-mails about the major points of focus and issues to address.
I'm curious as to, what my attitude on this is? You seem to think you know more about my attitude more than I do. If someone is discouraged at saying "If you're just looking to wear a dress then don't bother coming... because there's a lot of hard work, and a lot of commitment into this." then they SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
And it's bull, you're being an internet white knight, because you saw me "attacking a girl". You didn't say crap prior to that. You didn't even bother to let her reply herself before you jumped in either, like she NEEDED YOU to protect her from the evil me.
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SNR is getting too low here. Locked!
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