Yup, that's right, signs are banned on the whole. I brought this up at the fanime meeting to some of the con heads, and all of them said the same things "Signs are officially banned from the convention, and don't be suprised if any of the staff ask for you to throw the sign away, or to give it to them for them to dispose of".
So there you have it, let people know. Chances are they won't be assholes, and go up to everyone with a sign and tell them to trash them(because who has that time?) but they are officially banned. It's on the site apparently, when you register or what not(i'm not sure where, but that's what I was told).
\o/ YAY
i'm guessing this probably also applies to any anime character that holds a sign as part of its costume, or if the sign is relevant to the character being cosplayed.
How about t-shirts with the same kind of messages?
if its a graphic shirt you bought, no one will probably care; if you write it on a shirt, you're just trying to go around the rule. that doesn't help at all.
zombie jesus be praised!
Thank you for letting us know; this personally doesn't affect me since I've never wielded a sign, but its helpful information to let my friends, who are newcomers to Fanime and cons in general, know about.
And just so I have this straight (I just want to be absolutely sure about it; I'm sorry to make you repeat yourself if you have stated this), this rule also includes, like otakuapprentice pointed out, signs closely associated with cosplays, correct?
I'm not staff so it's not like my word is law or anything, however using my judgment...
Signs that have a real purpose won't be confiscated and what not. LIke if a Genma cosplayer has a wood sign, or if it's obviously a part of a costume because the character holds signs like that, it'll be okay. If the sign has a purpose like, "NARUTO GATHERING HERE" or the such, same story. But it's the obvious attention whoring signs, and the ones that are there just for attention and serve to real purpose... those are the ones that are banned.
Again, I'm not staff, so don't take my word as law.
Staff or not, what you're saying makes sense and answers all my further questions about it anyways, so thank you. I was mostly curious about the signs that are associated with helping people find gatherings anyways, so hopefully those will still be allowed.
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 11, 2008, 09:57:54 PM
I'm not staff so it's not like my word is law or anything, however using my judgment...
Signs that have a real purpose won't be confiscated and what not. LIke if a Genma cosplayer has a wood sign, or if it's obviously a part of a costume because the character holds signs like that, it'll be okay. If the sign has a purpose like, "NARUTO GATHERING HERE" or the such, same story. But it's the obvious attention whoring signs, and the ones that are there just for attention and serve to real purpose... those are the ones that are banned.
Again, I'm not staff, so don't take my word as law.
Well if those are the exact details, then it isn't all that bad. I used to have a costume where I waved my "Generic tentacle victim" sign around. I'd hate for people with similar costumes to have their signs taken away.
Well, blast... And my "special project" was almost finished.
Blame the actions of a few for screwing it up for the many... My sign was going to be awesome.
Quote from: Glitch on February 12, 2008, 09:23:07 AM
Well if those are the exact details, then it isn't all that bad. I used to have a costume where I waved my "Generic tentacle victim" sign around. I'd hate for people with similar costumes to have their signs taken away.
No... that sign would fall into the category of "attention whoring" and is not part of a costume. Part of a costume is...
An Azudai character with an "あ"(A) sign. Or like... Lilith with a X or O sign if she's in the "Showtime" costume.
ok I bet by the time the con starts, every thing you need to know about the rule should be worked out. From me thinking about it for one min. I think that Anyone with a sign will be told to remove it, unless it is part of a Cosply. If the sign holder clams the sign is, then the staffer/SOS member says "ok then if you wish to have the sign you and me can walk to Con Ops and they will check out your sign and make a judgment call on it." then If it is a cosply sign your sign will get a Tag Just like for a weapon. then you would have your sign, and if anyone stops you for it you can show them the tag saying its ok. anyone else think this is fair? This would get rid of useless signs and keep signs that cosply. or any other signs like say a sign being held by a maid for the Maid cafe, Advertising the cafe. She can keep her sign because she would have her tag and then you dont get people crying that others have signs why not me. It would be a clear rule saying that sign was checked out. well I take that back you will always have people crying about something but if they do you can simply say Con Ops approved that sign. If you want a sign have Con ops Check it to see if its allowed. Well thats my take on it. Please If anyone feels this is a good idea then by all means Bring it to a Staff meting and sagest it.
Quote from: Akito Starwind on February 12, 2008, 09:14:05 PM
ok I bet by the time the con starts, every thing you need to know about the rule should be worked out. From me thinking about it for one min. I think that Anyone with a sign will be told to remove it, unless it is part of a Cosply. If the sign holder clams the sign is, then the staffer/SOS member says "ok then if you wish to have the sign you and me can walk to Con Ops and they will check out your sign and make a judgment call on it." then If it is a cosply sign your sign will get a Tag Just like for a weapon. then you would have your sign, and if anyone stops you for it you can show them the tag saying its ok. anyone else think this is fair? This would get rid of useless signs and keep signs that cosply. or any other signs like say a sign being held by a maid for the Maid cafe, Advertising the cafe. She can keep her sign because she would have her tag and then you dont get people crying that others have signs why not me. It would be a clear rule saying that sign was checked out. well I take that back you will always have people crying about something but if they do you can simply say Con Ops approved that sign. If you want a sign have Con ops Check it to see if its allowed. Well thats my take on it. Please If anyone feels this is a good idea then by all means Bring it to a Staff meting and sagest it.
Except the majority of it is obvious and there would be no need for a sticker or a tag, or for con ops to even bother with it. It's kind of obvious to see the difference between "A sign with a point" and "A sign to attention whore".
Signs made me chuckle, but I won't miss them. If you want attention take the time to cosplay.
i'm sure people will try to pull them out and hide them, or complain that they didnt know about it.
i wont miss them.
Before you get excited for all the sign haters. I have a huge concern over this.
Will they actually let me use my "Brain Age" sign? Cuz its considered both cosplay and a sign at the same time!
I don't want not a single staffer come off to me and tell me "oh you're not aloud to have signs here" or else I will complain at the desk. Man wit out that sign, how the hell people can tell I am cosplaying as Brain Age guy. The sign was portraying the title screen of brain age. I really enjoy that cosplay when I brought it to Yaoi-con and can't wait to bring my Brain Age 2 cosplay at fanime.
Ahhh watever! I do agree that there are too much signs at the con at a certain degree. But I am bit concern that took away the fun to the community. Lets see how it goes. I'm not defending the sign issue cuz I losing interest of doing signs after Sac-anime but I'm just defending my cosplay material. Taking away my cosplay to portray my Brain Age cosplay just because its a sign is like Brain Age cosplayers are banned. Umm well at least I'm gonna wear my glomp me shirt.
Quote from: OniCourseMusha on February 13, 2008, 01:41:50 PM
Before you get excited for all the sign haters. I have a huge concern over this.
Will they actually let me use my "Brain Age" sign? Cuz its considered both cosplay and a sign at the same time!
I don't want not a single staffer come off to me and tell me "oh you're not aloud to have signs here" or else I will complain at the desk. Man wit out that sign, how the hell people can tell I am cosplaying as Brain Age guy. The sign was portraying the title screen of brain age. I really enjoy that cosplay when I brought it to Yaoi-con and can't wait to bring my Brain Age 2 cosplay at fanime.
Ahhh watever! I do agree that there are too much signs at the con at a certain degree. But I am bit concern that took away the fun to the community. Lets see how it goes. I'm not defending the sign issue cuz I losing interest of doing signs after Sac-anime but I'm just defending my cosplay material. Taking away my cosplay to portray my Brain Age cosplay just because its a sign is like Brain Age cosplayers are banned. Umm well at least I'm gonna wear my glomp me shirt.
Oni do not fear, for you are loved and known by all. I doubt anyone will bother you.....probably.
Quote from: OniCourseMusha on February 13, 2008, 01:41:50 PM
Before you get excited for all the sign haters. I have a huge concern over this.
Will they actually let me use my "Brain Age" sign? Cuz its considered both cosplay and a sign at the same time!
I don't want not a single staffer come off to me and tell me "oh you're not aloud to have signs here" or else I will complain at the desk. Man wit out that sign, how the hell people can tell I am cosplaying as Brain Age guy. The sign was portraying the title screen of brain age. I really enjoy that cosplay when I brought it to Yaoi-con and can't wait to bring my Brain Age 2 cosplay at fanime.
Ahhh watever! I do agree that there are too much signs at the con at a certain degree. But I am bit concern that took away the fun to the community. Lets see how it goes. I'm not defending the sign issue cuz I losing interest of doing signs after Sac-anime but I'm just defending my cosplay material. Taking away my cosplay to portray my Brain Age cosplay just because its a sign is like Brain Age cosplayers are banned. Umm well at least I'm gonna wear my glomp me shirt.
It's pretty
common-sense that that's... a costume. I doubt any staffer would ask you to throw your costume away, unless they're complete idiots. Unless somewhere on the sign says "Hug me, I'm the Brain-Age guy!" it shouldn't be a problem.
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 13, 2008, 02:49:30 PM
It's pretty common-sense that that's... a costume. I doubt any staffer would ask you to throw your costume away, unless they're complete idiots. Unless somewhere on the sign says "Hug me, I'm the Brain-Age guy!" it shouldn't be a problem.
Eck!! That's unoriginal!! That's more attention than the cosplay itself! lol!
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 13, 2008, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: OniCourseMusha on February 13, 2008, 01:41:50 PM
Before you get excited for all the sign haters. I have a huge concern over this.
It's pretty common-sense that that's... a costume. I doubt any staffer would ask you to throw your costume away, unless they're complete idiots. Unless somewhere on the sign says "Hug me, I'm the Brain-Age guy!" it shouldn't be a problem.
Yes I think you are right Common sense is what needs to be used. But just like the weapons policy, any weapon like item needs to be tagged. even if its common sense that it is in no way a danger to anyone. Im just trying to look at this from a legal stand point. a set policy must be set just as we have a clear policy on weapons, If we only said that if you see a weapon and your common sense says it is ok and not a threat, then you have a rule based on someone making a judgment call based on there ideas. I am all for No signs but a clear policy needs to be made. You eather have Zero signs being held by Fans or Fans that are allowed to have a sign that has been approved, Or Having a Fan with a cosply sign allways being asked by some staffer who may not know its a cosply sign to remove it then having to expline it is a cosply sign, over and over again. But what do you do with a Cosplayer that has a sign that has nothing to do with the anime? you end up with a staffer or SOS member saying that you can have it, because the cosplayer tells them its part of the Cosplay. but then the same Cosplayer with the same sign gets stopped down the hall by a staffer that knows the anime that he/she is cosplaying and says that sign is not part of the show so you need to throw it away. I just like to see Clear policy on a subject. I don't believe leaving the judgment call to random staff'ers or such, will work to well because it leaves alot of personnel common sense judgment calls. Whats common sense to me Is not necessary Common sense to some one else. Its sad that in this world we live in now, that we have to break down a policy to much to dumb proof it.
Quote from: Akito Starwind on February 13, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
Yes I think you are right Common sense is what needs to be used. But just like the weapons policy, any weapon like item needs to be tagged. even if its common sense that it is in no way a danger to anyone. Im just trying to look at this from a legal stand point. a set policy must be set just as we have a clear policy on weapons, If we only said that if you see a weapon and your common sense says it is ok and not a threat, then you have a rule based on someone making a judgment call based on there ideas. I am all for No signs but a clear policy needs to be made. You eather have Zero signs being held by Fans or Fans that are allowed to have a sign that has been approved, Or Having a Fan with a cosply sign allways being asked by some staffer who may not know its a cosply sign to remove it then having to expline it is a cosply sign, over and over again. But what do you do with a Cosplayer that has a sign that has nothing to do with the anime? you end up with a staffer or SOS member saying that you can have it, because the cosplayer tells them its part of the Cosplay. but then the same Cosplayer with the same sign gets stopped down the hall by a staffer that knows the anime that he/she is cosplaying and says that sign is not part of the show so you need to throw it away. I just like to see Clear policy on a subject. I don't believe leaving the judgment call to random staff'ers or such, will work to well because it leaves alot of personnel common sense judgment calls. Whats common sense to me Is not necessary Common sense to some one else. Its sad that in this world we live in now, that we have to break down a policy to much to dumb proof it.
There is no legal issue. Weapons policies have an obvious legal issue... because they're weapons. I'm not going to go into detail for this, because I don't feel like explaining an obvious law to people because they want to know details(such as... it's illegal to walk around with a baseball bat on the streets).
However, a signs policy is for private structure. It is not illegal to carry signs around... at all(unless it says something illegal), but the convention is a privately run organization and they have put a ban on them. Common sense, is common sense. It's obvious what signs are attention whoring and which belong to a costume. Wearing a costume doesn't make the lines any less clear on a signs intent.
i agree
I don't know why people complain about the banning of attention whoring signs, it's not like it's going to be lifted. And if you guys just try and find an alternative way i.e. shirt, Fanime staff will probably take action, do you want to be restricted so much. Just stop trying to find loop holes guys.
Quote from: Akito Starwind on February 12, 2008, 09:14:05 PM
I think that Anyone with a sign will be told to remove it, unless it is part of a Cosply. If the sign holder clams the sign is, then the staffer/SOS member says "ok then if you wish to have the sign you and me can walk to Con Ops and they will check out your sign and make a judgment call on it." then If it is a cosply sign your sign will get a Tag Just like for a weapon. then you would have your sign, and if anyone stops you for it you can show them the tag saying its ok.
First, I'll start by saying that if signage is banned, Con-Ops has not been informed of it, and we certainly have not been asked to enforce it. Consider us Switzerland on this one. We are not in the business of deciding what is and is not cosplay, and will be making no decisions on what does or does not fall under such a policy, if it exists.
Second, I think you have Con-Ops confused with Rovers (now called Safety). Con Ops will be located in the Willow Glen I room in the Marriott. We will be there all weekend (24 hours a day) with answers to questions, lost and found, missing badges, etc. Safety is the team with the radios that roves around and does crowd control and props tagging. If there were a sign ban, Safety would be responsible for enforcement, not Con Ops.
If you need to find your lost cell phone, or to get hold of someone on staff, my team is there and ready to help. For questions on signs, we're likely to just read the policy on the website to you if one is posted, or point you down the hall to Safety for more information.
Regards,
Jeanne Goldfein
Con Ops Head
FanimeCon 2008
Sounds Like a plan. lets run with it Jeanne.
wow signs are banned that's ok to me eventhough i made a totally awesome unique sign
Quote from: AnimeEmperor on February 12, 2008, 11:16:11 PM
Signs made me chuckle, but I won't miss them. If you want attention take the time to cosplay.
taking the time to cosplay is a good idea to get attention but arent some cosplays more popular then others?
Quote from: sasukeuchiha92 on February 16, 2008, 02:33:51 PM
wow signs are banned that's ok to me eventhough i made a totally awesome unique sign
Quote from: AnimeEmperor on February 12, 2008, 11:16:11 PM
Signs made me chuckle, but I won't miss them. If you want attention take the time to cosplay.
taking the time to cosplay is a good idea to get attention but arent some cosplays more popular then others?
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All I can say is finally, I'm absolutely behind this idea.
Thank you Mikey for bringing this issue to the attention of the powers that be!
Quote from: IamTetsuo on February 16, 2008, 07:17:52 PM
All I can say is finally, I'm absolutely behind this idea.
Thank you Mikey for bringing this issue to the attention of the powers that be!
Nah, he didn't have a discussion on it or anything. Fanime already had the rule on their website, that no one had noticed, before we asked. Their answer was just confirming it.
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 16, 2008, 10:39:08 PMFanime already had the rule on their website, that no one had noticed, before we asked. Their answer was just confirming it.
Where is it? I've been looking through the web site, and I can't find any mention of any rules banning signs.
Quote from: Nyxyin on February 17, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 16, 2008, 10:39:08 PMFanime already had the rule on their website, that no one had noticed, before we asked. Their answer was just confirming it.
Where is it? I've been looking through the web site, and I can't find any mention of any rules banning signs.
From what I heard, it's in the registration and rules of conduct thing you agree to when you buy your registration.
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 18, 2008, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: Nyxyin on February 17, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on February 16, 2008, 10:39:08 PMFanime already had the rule on their website, that no one had noticed, before we asked. Their answer was just confirming it.
Where is it? I've been looking through the web site, and I can't find any mention of any rules banning signs.
From what I heard, it's in the registration and rules of conduct thing you agree to when you buy your registration.
Hehehe, do people actually read that? They should really make a more prominent post about it, or they're going to be spending lots of time taking signs away from people at the con and creating a lot of trash.
i have been to other conventions that have done this same thing where you get your sign aproved just like you would get your weapon peacetied even though we talk about using common sense to diferenciate i still agree with the whole get it aproved with a sticker on it or something because that way you could make it like bright orange and then people would be like oh ok as aposed to an atention whore sign that has no bright orange sticker on it would be like trash now kthanksbai
so i definetly agree with the aprove signs because there are quite a few cosplays that require signs like get backers and things like that
Quote from: luckyends on February 18, 2008, 10:28:31 AM
i have been to other conventions that have done this same thing where you get your sign aproved just like you would get your weapon peacetied even though we talk about using common sense to diferenciate i still agree with the whole get it aproved with a sticker on it or something because that way you could make it like bright orange and then people would be like oh ok as aposed to an atention whore sign that has no bright orange sticker on it would be like trash now kthanksbai
so i definetly agree with the aprove signs because there are quite a few cosplays that require signs like get backers and things like that
To the guys who even support this idea, you don't seem to understand how problematic and inane (as in,
pointless) this practice is. I mean, as much as I am aware of the little hope left for common sense within the con-scene, Fanime shouldn't have to spend time and money sticking stickers on signs when it should be common sense to differentiate from a cosplay sign, and a sign that says "LOLOL HUG ME!"
So what if someone goes to an office supply store... and sticks a sticker on their own sign, themselves? It could be blatantly obvious that the sign shouldn't have been approved... like a "Hug me if you like my cosplay" sign with an orange sticker on the back. But that means it was already approved of, right? And staff can't take it away? No. Once people start doing that, you've wasted everyone's time with this idea.
Anyways, as for character/cosplay signs... I'll quote my reply to you on the OTHER thread. You're welcome.
QuoteIf it's from the anime and part of the costume, it should be fine-- but it has to be actually RELATED in that way. I don't mean a sign that says something in character. I mean... RELATED as in, actually IN the series and USED in the series by the character you're cosplaying.
And just in advance, since you asked about shirts and loopholes on the other thread, it'll probably be brought up here.
QuoteAnd if it's a normal sign... it wouldn't make a difference if it was on your shirt. That shouldn't even be even thought of as a loop-hole around "Signs are banned." Period. If it's print on your shirt, it's probably okay-- like, manufactured. If you WROTE it on your shirt, then you're getting a *facepalm* from staff and patrons against signs in the first place by trying SO HARD to find a loop-hole around something people were trying to get rid of. Stop. Signs are banned. No means no.
If it makes it any easier for anyone else, if you're not sure... DON'T BRING A SIGN AT ALL! If you're afraid of your efforts into making your sign will be destroyed by having a staff member confiscate it, don't bother to make the effort. Unless it isn't blatantly obvious that it's part of the costume, and you really really really need to know and absolutely have to carry it around with you, ask a legitimate question towards someone who might know the answer, e.g., Fanime staff.
when i asked about shirts on the other thread i was just wanted to bring it up becasue i wasnt sure if that constituted as a sign im a cosplayer at fanime so i never wear shirts with things taped on em
Really, I don't see what the big deal is all about. I will admit that the first few signs are fun, but then, as I walk around the convention, I begin to realize that half of the people not in costume have a sign. I believe that this detracts from the overall experience of a con, because then, as I said earlier, all it becomes is one huge contest to glomp others just to say you hugged x amount of people. And that's not fun. I always thought that cons were meant to bring together a group of people with common interests. What I'm saying is that we should help turn it back into an anime con, and not a glomp-con.
That saidddddd.... I have no idea where the rules of the forum are at, but we should honestly ask that this rule be enforced, if it hasn't been established already.
For those of you asking if signs would be taken from cosplays that have a sign. Are you serious? There would be no reason for such a thing. The goal of this, should it be put through, would be to remove the unnecessary signs, superfluous and adding nothing. Therefore, signs that are a part of cosplay would not be contested at all.
And, as much I wanna continue, my hands are cold and I can't feel them typing. LoL.
But yeah, I think this should be an official rule:
No glomp/hug me signs (or equivalent) that are not a part of a cosplay. Cosplay is defined as being a part of some anime, manga, movie, or other type of visual entertainment.
Hi Everyone,
A ban on signs at FanimeCon 2008?!? I dont' think so...
Let me start by saying that unless you are in senior management with FanimeCon, you shouldn't be making any statements about what's banned and what's not banned and why you think it has been banned. This thread was not necessary, it has caused panic where it wasn't necessary and the more important fact only senior management of FanimeCon should be making those kinds of announcements and no one else.
Second, there are legal issues with signs, especially if the legal authorities' interpretation of it is for solicitation with a minor AKA sexual favors for monetary gain. Again, this would apply to underage minors as well as adults who are willing to exchange what would be constituted as an act they are not legal able to engage in, whether you are a minor or not and made by someone else for monetary gains.
Third, T-Shirt would in fact have to be rated with sign, whether you are doing Cosplay or not, if you are evoking your First Amendment rights, think again, but those rights do not always apply. Consider what any first year law student in a legal review case has to think about when someone shouts "Fire" in a crowded theater when no fire exists. I can tell this much, FanimeCon will not allow you to advertise sexual favors for monetary gain nor use profanity or racial slurs on those shirts.
Fourth, there is nothing official on the web site that I can find; neither can the head of the division that runs Registration. However, I'm willing to admit I've made a mistake, if you can point it out to me where it says that signs are banned at the FanimeCon website. If such a ban were to be made, it would be an official announcement on the web site, also on a thread and ConOps would definitely be in the loop on it.
Fifth, hell, I'll take a fifth of anything at this point. This thread has no real reason to exist and shouldn't have been started unless there was an official announcement made, not the word of... Say, exactly who did you talk to about this ban? Which Con Heads did you talk to; I would like names to go along with Con Heads...
The only rules we have is no signs on pillars and such are obviously still banned.
When Senior Management at FanimeCon comes back with something official, everyone will know about it, until that time, signs are not banned at FanimeCon 2008.
Craige...
CFO, ARG
Treasury, FanimeCon 2008
Quote from: PassingTheBuck on February 18, 2008, 06:09:16 PM
Hi Everyone,
A ban on signs at FanimeCon 2008?!? I dont' think so...
Let me start by saying that unless you are in senior management with FanimeCon, you shouldn't be making any statements about what's banned and what's not banned and why you think it has been banned. This thread was not necessary, it has caused panic where it wasn't necessary and the more important fact only senior management of FanimeCon should be making those kinds of announcements and no one else.
Second, there are legal issues with signs, especially if the legal authorities' interpretation of it is for solicitation with a minor AKA sexual favors for monetary gain. Again, this would apply to underage minors as well as adults who are willing to exchange what would be constituted as an act they are not legal able to engage in, whether you are a minor or not and made by someone else for monetary gains.
Third, T-Shirt would in fact have to be rated with sign, whether you are doing Cosplay or not, if you are evoking your First Amendment rights, think again, but those rights do not always apply. Consider what any first year law student in a legal review case has to think about when someone shouts "Fire" in a crowded theater when no fire exists. I can tell this much, FanimeCon will not allow you to advertise sexual favors for monetary gain nor use profanity or racial slurs on those shirts.
Fourth, there is nothing official on the web site that I can find; neither can the head of the division that runs Registration. However, I'm willing to admit I've made a mistake, if you can point it out to me where it says that signs are banned at the FanimeCon website. If such a ban were to be made, it would be an official announcement on the web site, also on a thread and ConOps would definitely be in the loop on it.
Fifth, hell, I'll take a fifth of anything at this point. This thread has no real reason to exist and shouldn't have been started unless there was an official announcement made, not the word of... Say, exactly who did you talk to about this ban? Which Con Heads did you talk to; I would like names to go along with Con Heads...
The only rules we have is no signs on pillars and such are obviously still banned.
When Senior Management at FanimeCon comes back with something official, everyone will know about it, until that time, signs are not banned at FanimeCon 2008.
Craige...
CFO, ARG
Treasury, FanimeCon 2008
Thank you for the clarification on that, sir.
Let "Secret Plan 02" commence.. :3
Oh what the hell!
I had this feeling it wasn't official yet when I asked my friends about it! But I am gonna be aware of this!
Quote from: PassingTheBuck on February 18, 2008, 06:09:16 PM
Let me start by saying that unless you are in senior management with FanimeCon, you shouldn't be making any statements about what's banned and what's not banned and why you think it has been banned. This thread was not necessary, it has caused panic where it wasn't necessary and the more important fact only senior management of FanimeCon should be making those kinds of announcements and no one else.
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This thread has no real reason to exist and shouldn't have been started unless there was an official announcement made, not the word of... Say, exactly who did you talk to about this ban? Which Con Heads did you talk to; I would like names to go along with Con Heads...
...
When Senior Management at FanimeCon comes back with something official, everyone will know about it, until that time, signs are not banned at FanimeCon 2008.
Thanks for clearing that up, though I'm for sure not going to use signs or t-shirts of any kind. I'd like to hear real announcements from the (real) con heads themselves, especially regarding policies, procedures, and important issues.
if thats the case, what was originally posted at the beginning contradicts what was posted by Craige. still, everyone(including myself) took what was on the first post as truth without an official statement attached to it, so we all pretty much slipped up on that one.
hmm, this is getting very interesting....
P.S. did a check of this years, and last years websites(including the '07 program book); there is no reference to a rule on signs being banned. this may change for the '08 site, but I'm taking all this for now with a grain of salt.
That's what multiple staff members told me, so, what do I care.
I prefer them banned, if they're not, oh well... if someone harasses me I'll respond appropriately. If that person ends up getting hurt, oh well.
well....
mistakes will be made.
While the official status of a ban seems to be in limbo at the moment, it would be good if we did have such a ban like other cons do, as well as a crackdown on unwanted glomping. This nonsense has been allowed to go on for far too long as it is.
Quote from: PyronIkari on February 19, 2008, 10:10:49 PM
That's what multiple staff members told me, so, what do I care.
Heh.
Paraphrasing the chair: signs are not banned per se, but we have options to discourage or remove signs we don't like.
I'm going to lock this and let it die, so this misunderstanding doesn't spread further.