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I've been trying to find a thread on this subject, but all I hear is a lot of back and forths....

Does anyone know (for sure) if signs are banned at Fanime Con 2008? ???

My friends and I are putting on a game (Catch the Barrel-Catch that Prize), and we would like to put up a sign in the main hall of the convention center so that people can read about it. It will contain the rules/instructions on how to play the game, and a few pictures of Naruto and Bleach characters. It's that or print out a lot of flyers which can get really costly, really quickly. If anyone has any information I would be forever grateful.  :)

Thank you! >.<

As long as it isn't soliciting anything such as a business, hugs (regardless of if it's free or not) or offending, it's fine.

The game signs should be all right as long as they aren't selling/giving things away without permission and they're smaller than you (physically). :3
I don't think flyers are allowed unless you have permission... but that I'm not sure on at all. o.0

Thank you so much! That's a big help! >.<

Quote from: Chiri Kcrinh on March 20, 2008, 07:15:53 PMThe game signs should be all right

However, make sure that the game does not obstruct the flow of traffic and doesn't involve running inside the convention center.  Also, I imagine that there are no guarantees that unattended signs won't walk away, get scribbled on, moved elsewhere, etc.

QuoteI don't think flyers are allowed unless you have permission... but that I'm not sure on at all. o.0

I really don't think so.  People have been bringing and leaving flyers all over the place at very many conventions.  Last year, I distinctly recall seeing two tables dedicated to all sorts of flyers.  I believe there might've been another flyer table right outside of Registration.  I very much doubt that everybody who left flyers on those tables had to get permission.

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on March 20, 2008, 07:06:20 PMMy friends and I are putting on a game (Catch the Barrel-Catch that Prize), and we would like to put up a sign in the main hall of the convention center so that people can read about it. It will contain the rules/instructions on how to play the game, and a few pictures of Naruto and Bleach characters. It's that or print out a lot of flyers which can get really costly, really quickly. If anyone has any information I would be forever grateful.  :)

I'm not sure having a stand with a sign, but having it stuck onto a wall via ANYTHING is not ok.

Quote from: Nyxyin on March 20, 2008, 11:01:16 PMI really don't think so.  People have been bringing and leaving flyers all over the place at very many conventions.  Last year, I distinctly recall seeing two tables dedicated to all sorts of flyers.  I believe there might've been another flyer table right outside of Registration.  I very much doubt that everybody who left flyers on those tables had to get permission.

Actually, I think every flyer on there was approved, but there might have been a few people that snuck their flyers onto the table.

You can't tape/staple/attach anything to the walls without prior permission (Which is very unlikely to be approved). They are really against taping =P. Tape = bad for the walls.

Quote from: MPLe on March 21, 2008, 10:35:50 AMActually, I think every flyer on there was approved, but there might have been a few people that snuck their flyers onto the table.

Seriously?  What's the approval process?

here: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8788.0.html

Quote from: short_storiesgl on March 26, 2008, 12:10:24 PM
here: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8788.0.html

this was proven to be untrue and a false statement
http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8890.0.html
that is the thread to keep track of if you want to know about the bans

Quote from: luckyends on March 26, 2008, 07:32:10 PM

Quote from: short_storiesgl on March 26, 2008, 12:10:24 PM
here: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8788.0.html

this was proven to be untrue and a false statement
http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8890.0.html
that is the thread to keep track of if you want to know about the bans

Aww nuts *snaps fingers*

@.@
Ummm....alrighty. I'll try and check it all out. So tape on walls is a no go for sure then? Do the pillars count? The ones in the front lobby? XD
Hmmm....what to do. What to do....>.>

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on March 29, 2008, 01:32:53 PMSo tape on walls is a no go for sure then? Do the pillars count? The ones in the front lobby?

Tape on walls is for sure a no go.  Pillars count.  This isn't a FanimeCon rule -- this is a rule from the San Jose Convention Center itself.  Any attempts to use tape or circumvent the tape rule may get FanimeCon kicked out of the SJCC.

http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/resources/coordination.php says, "Signs are not allowed to be taped, tacked, stapled, nailed or otherwise affixed to any wall or surface in the San Jose Convention & Cultural Facilities."

Quote from: Nyxyin on March 29, 2008, 02:32:09 PM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on March 29, 2008, 01:32:53 PMSo tape on walls is a no go for sure then? Do the pillars count? The ones in the front lobby?

Tape on walls is for sure a no go.  Pillars count.  This isn't a FanimeCon rule -- this is a rule from the San Jose Convention Center itself.  Any attempts to use tape or circumvent the tape rule may get FanimeCon kicked out of the SJCC.

http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/resources/coordination.php says, "Signs are not allowed to be taped, tacked, stapled, nailed or otherwise affixed to any wall or surface in the San Jose Convention & Cultural Facilities."

Okie-dokie then. Thank you so much for the information! ^_^
I'm glad I asked ahead of time. ^.^;;

what about handing out flyers? is that verboten?

i think that the con is slowly reaching a point of over regulation, where no one will be able to know everything that is banned or not allowed, and where conops and its surrogates will be unable to police that which they have regulated.  i think this signs thing is kind of silly, but in the end, it would have worked itself out like this silly things tend to, and a ban would not have been necessary.  surely there are solicitation laws... but a ban on a sign for free hugs? i dont personally give or receive with strangers, but i think its a little silly to bring the wrath of the archons down on the free-hug-people.

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 01, 2008, 12:53:30 PM
what about handing out flyers? is that verboten?

i think that the con is slowly reaching a point of over regulation, where no one will be able to know everything that is banned or not allowed, and where conops and its surrogates will be unable to police that which they have regulated.  i think this signs thing is kind of silly, but in the end, it would have worked itself out like this silly things tend to, and a ban would not have been necessary.  surely there are solicitation laws... but a ban on a sign for free hugs? i dont personally give or receive with strangers, but i think its a little silly to bring the wrath of the archons down on the free-hug-people.

You obviously haven't been following the other threads about this.

Handing out flyers is solicitation and is against the rules. Well that's half true it matters what is on the flyers. If you hand out a flyer that says like "CHEESE" then it's not solicitation it's handing out a retarded piece of paper that says "CHEESE" on it. However if you're handing out flyers that are like "GO HERE AND BUY STUFF" or "GO TO SO AND SO THING AND DO THIS!" then that is solicitation and if you don't have permission to be doing so, you can't be doing it.

Signs like free hugs and the such cause lots of problems, with people assuming that because they are holding a sign, they are free to do things. A girl holding a sign that says "free hugs" gave her the idea that she can go around and hug whoever she wanted and it would be okay because of the sign. People with "Free Glomps" signs believed they could run and tackle people because of the sign. People actually solicited with other signs asking for money, or other such things which is against the law, and against the Convention Centers rules. Solicitation of any kind against the rules of the SJCC, therefore it should have been banned long ago, but Fanime, much like most conventions, turned a blind eye for years. Only it started escalating enough to be addressed as a problem, so many conventions are doing something about it. Fanime is more lax'ed than a lot of conventions are about it.

At this point, it is hardly over-regulation. They're merely upholding the basic rules of the SJCC and the local and state laws. They are hardly limiting that much outside of basic social laws that people should be following in every day life anyways.

ya know you could have just said flyers fall under soliciting and you arnt aloud to do that and just left it at that instead of viciousely atacking something this thread isnt even about please stop spaming us with what you think there are other threads for ripping apart glome me and free hug signs so please stick to those and stop poluting the forum with more of your hate for this topic  >:(

Quote from: luckyends on April 01, 2008, 04:56:47 PM
ya know you could have just said flyers fall under soliciting and you arnt aloud to do that and just left it at that instead of viciousely atacking something this thread isnt even about please stop spaming us with what you think there are other threads for ripping apart glome me and free hug signs so please stick to those and stop poluting the forum with more of your hate for this topic  >:(

He asked a question, I answered it. Why should you care anyways, if you don't want me talking about a subject, then have the mods ban the subject. It's stupid and childish about you to bitch that "OMG HE IS TALKING ABOUT A SUBJECT MATTER AND HE EXPLAINS HIMSELF BUT I DON'T LIKE IT SO I WILL BITCH AT HIM!"

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on March 20, 2008, 07:06:20 PM

Quote from: PyronIkari on April 01, 2008, 05:46:26 PM
He asked a question, I answered it. Why should you care anyways, if you don't want me talking about a subject, then have the mods ban the subject. It's stupid and childish about you to bitch that "OMG HE IS TALKING ABOUT A SUBJECT MATTER AND HE EXPLAINS HIMSELF BUT I DON'T LIKE IT SO I WILL BITCH AT HIM!"

My friends and I are putting on a game (Catch the Barrel-Catch that Prize), and we would like to put up a sign in the main hall of the convention center so that people can read about it. It will contain the rules/instructions on how to play the game, and a few pictures of Naruto and Bleach characters. It's that or print out a lot of flyers which can get really costly, really quickly. If anyone has any information I would be forever grateful.  :)

the orignal intent of this post was to find out whether or not this person could have a sign about the rules of a game they want to play and set up at the convention

Quote from: luckyends on March 26, 2008, 07:32:10 PM

Quote from: short_storiesgl on March 26, 2008, 12:10:24 PM
here: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8788.0.html

this was proven to be untrue and a false statement
http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8890.0.html
that is the thread to keep track of if you want to know about the bans

this is the thread about the ban of signs and ban of glomps that was given to this person one of them is a post that was proven to be false the other is the current thread of the real going ons about the topic of signs and later the topic of flyers was brought up which you added some very help full insight about the fact that they would be agains policies if they were solicitations which was helpfull and was not posted or i have not seen posted places and i thank you for this bit of information ^_^

but why i replied so angrily to the second half of the post is the fact that the subject of glomp and hug signs is being addressed in one of the threads that were linked and as proven by the moderators this is a very touchy topic because they have locked every other thread on that subject so for you to not take a clue and not talk about that subject in the correct area is frustrating and then the fact that you attacked me because i was telling you your post was in the wrong area is also anoying

"You obviously haven't been following the other threads about this."

nope. sorry, i havent. i would if i had the time though (T.T).

as for the people who think they are entitled to go around doing things because they are holding a sign, then if they cross a line and make someone uncomfortable, wouldnt the proper enforcement method be for the offended person to report the offender, rather then blame signs?

i think you may be making a post hoc ergo proctor hoc logical fallacy.  you are linking the signs to the anti social behavior, when the signs in and of themselves are harmless, just pieces of cardboard with paint on them.  i think your line of thinking is "the person who offended me was holding a sign before they offended me, therefore they offended me because they held a sign." its kind of a non sequitor.

on the note of others, i think you are referring to possible panhandling and prostitution.  the former can be solved by rovers saying "sorry, can't do that" (it should be fairly obvious, since they are holding a sign) and the latter is a matter for SJPD.  So long as there are conventions, there will be prostitutes; this is true for any convention; but the responsibility lies at the level of civil law enforcement.

"At this point, it is hardly over-regulation. They're merely upholding the basic rules of the SJCC and the local and state laws. They are hardly limiting that much outside of basic social laws that people should be following in every day life anyways. "

it shouldnt be the conventions responsibility to police the more serious aspects of it, and the more trivial and annoying aspects can be solved without hacking away at freedom of expression with a broadsword.  if someone had a sign that said "Impeach Bush" on it, certainly that would not fall under the category of solicitation for money or exchange of goods and services or prostitution; it would fall under political expression, but it would still be under the category of "sign", which is banned. in that scenario, if someone who held an "impeach bush" sign under such a broad ban would arguably have their civil liberties impeded upon.

also, for "free hugs," please see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4


post script

(i think the objection from prior responses is based upon your abrasive tone. youre free to use an abrasive tone, lord knows this is the internet, but in the future, people could react like that because of a lack of diplomatic diction.)

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 01, 2008, 08:37:04 PM

"You obviously haven't been following the other threads about this."

nope. sorry, i havent. i would if i had the time though (T.T).

as for the people who think they are entitled to go around doing things because they are holding a sign, then if they cross a line and make someone uncomfortable, wouldnt the proper enforcement method be for the offended person to report the offender, rather then blame signs?

i think you may be making a post hoc ergo proctor hoc logical fallacy.  you are linking the signs to the anti social behavior, when the signs in and of themselves are harmless, just pieces of cardboard with paint on them.  i think your line of thinking is "the person who offended me was holding a sign before they offended me, therefore they offended me because they held a sign." its kind of a non sequitor.

on the note of others, i think you are referring to possible panhandling and prostitution.  the former can be solved by rovers saying "sorry, can't do that" (it should be fairly obvious, since they are holding a sign) and the latter is a matter for SJPD.  So long as there are conventions, there will be prostitutes; this is true for any convention; but the responsibility lies at the level of civil law enforcement.

"At this point, it is hardly over-regulation. They're merely upholding the basic rules of the SJCC and the local and state laws. They are hardly limiting that much outside of basic social laws that people should be following in every day life anyways. "

it shouldnt be the conventions responsibility to police the more serious aspects of it, and the more trivial and annoying aspects can be solved without hacking away at freedom of expression with a broadsword.  if someone had a sign that said "Impeach Bush" on it, certainly that would not fall under the category of solicitation for money or exchange of goods and services or prostitution; it would fall under political expression, but it would still be under the category of "sign", which is banned. in that scenario, if someone who held an "impeach bush" sign under such a broad ban would arguably have their civil liberties impeded upon.

also, for "free hugs," please see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4


post script

(i think the objection from prior responses is based upon your abrasive tone. youre free to use an abrasive tone, lord knows this is the internet, but in the future, people could react like that because of a lack of diplomatic diction.)

heck yes i totaly agree with you or the parts i read (im kinda tired and it was alot of text so skimed)
but the point of my posts was im tired of the bashing and posts about signs being banned and the admins are trying to keep it all in one thread so i was trying to shift it there and now we've gone and made another thread about the argument so yeah

basicaly intent was to shift everything back to the admin arove thead about signs and glomps and stuff and just kinda back fired cause i had a bad day
so i apalogize for my un called for responce but could we all please move our thoughts back to the thread its labeled what is banned and whats not banned and i posted a link thank you

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 01, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
as for the people who think they are entitled to go around doing things because they are holding a sign, then if they cross a line and make someone uncomfortable, wouldnt the proper enforcement method be for the offended person to report the offender, rather then blame signs?

i think you may be making a post hoc ergo proctor hoc logical fallacy.  you are linking the signs to the anti social behavior, when the signs in and of themselves are harmless, just pieces of cardboard with paint on them.  i think your line of thinking is "the person who offended me was holding a sign before they offended me, therefore they offended me because they held a sign." its kind of a non sequitor.

No, I don't blame the signs at all. Of course I blame the person, but the people can use this as a line of defense. What is and what is not allowed by the convention is an argument the person can use to get out of being in trouble for doing such things. This was shown in prior threads and has happened in the past. Basically, the point is to remove this line of defense so people must acknowledge it. The signs are just an outlet of such kind of behavior and an excuse. Now they don't have this excuse.

Quoteon the note of others, i think you are referring to possible panhandling and prostitution.  the former can be solved by rovers saying "sorry, can't do that" (it should be fairly obvious, since they are holding a sign) and the latter is a matter for SJPD.  So long as there are conventions, there will be prostitutes; this is true for any convention; but the responsibility lies at the level of civil law enforcement.

But as a convention they must uphold and disallow this kind of action. If the convention doesn't address the problem, they are seen as supporting it. If it's something minor, that doesn't merit calling the cops, but is still an issue, the con can handle it without involving the police, which will be bad for everyone(con, the convention center, and all). You can state "but they're just having fun" but this doesn't apply to all of them, and there are those that do cause problems. Frankly, it's those that do cause problems that ruin things for everyone else. If people want someone to blame as to why they can't hold a sign like that, blame the ones that whore themselves out and act inappropriately(most of them).

Quotet shouldnt be the conventions responsibility to police the more serious aspects of it, and the more trivial and annoying aspects can be solved without hacking away at freedom of expression with a broadsword.  if someone had a sign that said "Impeach Bush" on it, certainly that would not fall under the category of solicitation for money or exchange of goods and services or prostitution; it would fall under political expression, but it would still be under the category of "sign", which is banned. in that scenario, if someone who held an "impeach bush" sign under such a broad ban would arguably have their civil liberties impeded upon.

No, you haven't been reading. SIGNS are not banned as a whole. Which is why I am stating that Fanime is more lax'ed. Many many many other major conventions are banning signs altogether because it's easier for them to control this way. Get rid of the problem, and get rid of the few that didn't cause a problem being just a side affect. This isn't attacking anyone's civil liberties because the whole point of signs are to draw attention. Now, this can cause many problems involving fire codes, solicitation, etc. etc. etc. all of which I have seen due to people holding signs. Harassment, people not doing there job(like con staff) etc.

Fanime isn't banning signs as a whole, only those that are against the law.

Quotealso, for "free hugs," please see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
post script
(i think the objection from prior responses is based upon your abrasive tone. youre free to use an abrasive tone, lord knows this is the internet, but in the future, people could react like that because of a lack of diplomatic diction.)

Oh feel free to react. You just better respond with actual content instead of just shooting your mouth. Which to be honest, I'm really surprised, because you did. Most people respond back with banter and opinions that don't hold weight at all. Your replies actually made sense, but since you're lacking a little bit of information on the subject matter, you missed out on some things.

"No, I don't blame the signs at all. Of course I blame the person, but the people can use this as a line of defense. What is and what is not allowed by the convention is an argument the person can use to get out of being in trouble for doing such things. This was shown in prior threads and has happened in the past. Basically, the point is to remove this line of defense so people must acknowledge it. The signs are just an outlet of such kind of behavior and an excuse. Now they don't have this excuse."

the reason i site freedom of speech and expression, and then sited the "free hugs" movement (youtube link) is that the free distribution(i guess you could call it distribution) of consensual hugs is considered by some a "movement" - the validity of this,  i guess would be up to any court who would see it.

two problems arise from this. one is a big court hassle. second is a degredation of convention atmosphere. granted, i am not a glomper, nor do i enjoy being glomped, but i understand it is part of fanime, an indelable ink in its fabric, one of the many eccentricities in the cultural phenomenon that comes around every memorial day weekend.

so if you ban free hugs, and these are consensual hugs i am talking about, then we have a court battle. this is a fight that the glompers would be likely to win.  not only would we fail to control glomping, we would be giving the glomp community court precedent to wave in the face of all non-glompers, potentially.

not only would we end up failing to control the glompers, we would make them uppity and self righteous, like they are some oppressed peoples, like they have a chip on their shoulder.

as for the signs being used as a line of defense... i think the chewbacca defense is stronger.  the fact that they have a sign does not mean they have carte' blanche' to do what they please.  no one can stand on a street corner with a sign that says "free gunshot wounds" and get away with murder.  really, i cant envision someone saying "...but i had a sign, your honor!" although there may have been an episode of law and order on it ;).  banning signs will not alleviate the symptoms caused by overzealous glompers. they just make it easier for them to fade into the woodwork, while they hunt in packs, like velociraptors, searching for unsuspecting and unconsenting prey, luring them into their glompy ambush, always striking from the side.

would velociraptors have been the expedient killers they were reputed to be had they worn signs? i think not, sir.

think of the children. THE CHILDREN!!!!!

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 01, 2008, 08:37:04 PMit would still be under the category of "sign", which is banned.

I just wanted to reiterate that signs are not banned at FanimeCon.  Some content on some signs are illegal according to state and/or federal law, and some signs and sign placements are not allowed by the San Jose Convention Center.  As far as I can tell, FanimeCon itself has no additional policy against signs beyond what what was already established by other institutions.  Therefore, FanimeCon has no responsibility to do any enforcement that normal citizens aren't responsible for.

As for law suits, did you read the pre-registration pages?  They basically said we have to follow FanimeCon rules and policies, and rules and policies are subject to change.  So, it sounds to me like everybody has already agreed that Fanime can make up a random rule on the spot to kick people out if they just don't like someone.  Once we've accepted terms like that, I don't think we have much of a legal leg to sue with if we get kicked out for whatever reason.

okay... here is where it can become sticky...

what defines the entity of fanimecon? is it the hotels? the convention center? the rooms wherby the badges must be checked? it is physically possible to be on the floor of SJCC and not have a badge, having agreed to that policy; does that mean that THAT person is subject to those rules, if indeed the jurisdiction of the convention is even there?

this is what i mean by a hairy subject.  it would be so much easier just to make a few announcements and warnings to overzealous glompers not to engage in consensual glomping then to make some sort of quasi fascistic rule banning signs like SJCC is in some sort of non-free-speech zone - think of the gray hairs of the people putting this wonderful convention on because of some crazy glomper whose daddy can afford a high-priced attorney.

in the interests of the convention, less regulation in this regard is in its best interests.

...honestly, if you would just spend the time that it took to read each post and reply to them and just read the other thread, most of your questions would have been answered.

I won't go into where the rules of FanimeCon apply, as that isn't my decision/call/etc./etc. but just a general comment that the signs and glomping restrictions is basically if it's soliciting (signs that say, "Will _ for _" as an example) and/or physical abuse ("rough unexpected glomping").

Also, understand that SJCC officers will be onsite all weekend (Thursday-Monday) so if there is a problem, you can get a staff member to contact one (or just find one, since they'll be roaming the walkways and such).

O.O
Oh goodness...This thread became a little heated didn't it? ^.^;;
I cannot believe that the other sign-like argument leaked into here. I probably should have expected that though...>.>....

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 02, 2008, 04:17:50 PMokay... here is where it can become sticky...

Not really...

Quotewhat defines the entity of fanimecon?

FanimeCon is an organization.

Quoteis it the hotels? the convention center?

No, they are their own entities with their own rights.  Hotels are private property.  The convention center is a bit trickier, but not significantly so.  It's an "innovative and progressive" "public-private partnership model", so I believe limited parts of it might count as "public", but FanimeCon counts as the tenant in the areas it's renting, which turn quasi-private.  Several laws stop counting on private property, even if you're just renting it.  For example, you're allowed to be naked in your hotel room even though it's illegal to be naked in public.

Quoteit is physically possible to be on the floor of SJCC and not have a badge, having agreed to that policy; does that mean that THAT person is subject to those rules, if indeed the jurisdiction of the convention is even there?

If it's in the part of the convention center that FanimeCon is renting, then I don't think it'd be legally any different from kicking an unrelated stranger out of your apartment or hotel.  It's physically possible for a stranger to be in your apartment if you've left the door open because you're throwing a party, but you can still make people leave for no reason.  The apartment owner has the right to ask the police to enforce "no trespassing" on his private property, and you've somewhat borrowed that right from the apartment owner by paying rent.

Quoteit would be so much easier just to make a few announcements and warnings to overzealous glompers not to engage in consensual glomping then to make some sort of quasi fascistic rule banning signs like SJCC is in some sort of non-free-speech zone

FanimeCon already said that they're not banning signs per se.  Besides, free speech isn't as free as you think, and it's getting less free all the time, especially when it bumps up against private property.

Quotethink of the gray hairs of the people putting this wonderful convention on because of some crazy glomper whose daddy can afford a high-priced attorney.

I don't see what glompers have to do with signs.  I doubt Fanime itself is that rich anyways, so it wouldn't have much to lose.  (If it actually had money, why would it keep needing more help and volunteers?)  Lawyers probably wouldn't risk their reputation in a frivolous suit unless the payoff looked sufficiently big or the cause were sufficiently just.

Quotein the interests of the convention, less regulation in this regard is in its best interests.

The only rule that FanimeCon seems to have is that FanimeCon can do whatever it wants.  And FanimeCon seems to want to follow the rules of the convention center and the state of California.  I don't see anything wrong with that.  It's often a good idea to follow the rules of your landlord and your government.

Anyways, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I know any more about the inner workings of FanimeCon or SJCC than what's easily available on the Internet, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Quote from: MPLe on April 02, 2008, 05:18:35 PMAlso, understand that SJCC officers will be onsite all weekend

Did you mean SJPD...?

Quote from: Nyxyin on April 03, 2008, 05:39:33 AM

Quote from: MPLe on April 02, 2008, 05:18:35 PMAlso, understand that SJCC officers will be onsite all weekend

Did you mean SJPD...?

Yes =)

So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

that would fall under signs and theres lots of posts bout that subject. good luck=)

Quote from: dibbly on April 06, 2008, 09:59:26 PM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

that would fall under signs and theres lots of posts bout that subject. good luck=)

-sighs- Thanks, I'll need it....>.>...

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

Wouldn't that be littering? Lol.

I'm... fairly certain such a thing wouldn't be allowed, regardless of what the sign might say. A lot of places don't allow you to post posters up on the wall-- not only that but keep in mind that FanimeCon is a private event. People use signs near/on the wall probably to direct patrons, and ones that aren't official would probably confuse some people (Unless the words are frank, like "Hug me" in which people will start hugging against the wall. But then the wall would be soliciting, which is against the rules of course. Don't do it.). In any case, just leaving a sign around is probably... not a good... idea... o_0

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on March 20, 2008, 07:06:20 PMMy friends and I are putting on a game (Catch the Barrel-Catch that Prize)

Out of curiosity, how is this game played anyways?

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on April 09, 2008, 08:07:41 AM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

Wouldn't that be littering? Lol.

I'm... fairly certain such a thing wouldn't be allowed, regardless of what the sign might say. A lot of places don't allow you to post posters up on the wall-- not only that but keep in mind that FanimeCon is a private event. People use signs near/on the wall probably to direct patrons, and ones that aren't official would probably confuse some people (Unless the words are frank, like "Hug me" in which people will start hugging against the wall. But then the wall would be soliciting, which is against the rules of course. Don't do it.). In any case, just leaving a sign around is probably... not a good... idea... o_0

Oye. This is getting complicated. V.V

Quote from: Nyxyin on April 09, 2008, 11:35:54 AM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on March 20, 2008, 07:06:20 PMMy friends and I are putting on a game (Catch the Barrel-Catch that Prize)

Out of curiosity, how is this game played anyways?

Right here: http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8866.msg215030.html#msg215030 (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,8866.msg215030.html#msg215030)  ;D

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 09, 2008, 06:12:31 PM

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on April 09, 2008, 08:07:41 AM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

Wouldn't that be littering? Lol.

I'm... fairly certain such a thing wouldn't be allowed, regardless of what the sign might say. A lot of places don't allow you to post posters up on the wall-- not only that but keep in mind that FanimeCon is a private event. People use signs near/on the wall probably to direct patrons, and ones that aren't official would probably confuse some people (Unless the words are frank, like "Hug me" in which people will start hugging against the wall. But then the wall would be soliciting, which is against the rules of course. Don't do it.). In any case, just leaving a sign around is probably... not a good... idea... o_0

Oye. This is getting complicated. V.V

You know, trying to find loopholes to it will probably just end up annoying the staffers who enforce the rules... What are you using the signs for, anyway?

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on April 09, 2008, 06:25:03 PM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 09, 2008, 06:12:31 PM

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on April 09, 2008, 08:07:41 AM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
So, new question. Since we're not allowed to post up a poster on the wall. Can we LEAN it against the wall? Or attatch a poster to a pole or our own and let it stand by itself NEXT to the wall?

Wouldn't that be littering? Lol.

I'm... fairly certain such a thing wouldn't be allowed, regardless of what the sign might say. A lot of places don't allow you to post posters up on the wall-- not only that but keep in mind that FanimeCon is a private event. People use signs near/on the wall probably to direct patrons, and ones that aren't official would probably confuse some people (Unless the words are frank, like "Hug me" in which people will start hugging against the wall. But then the wall would be soliciting, which is against the rules of course. Don't do it.). In any case, just leaving a sign around is probably... not a good... idea... o_0

Oye. This is getting complicated. V.V

You know, trying to find loopholes to it will probably just end up annoying the staffers who enforce the rules... What are you using the signs for, anyway?

It's one sign that states the rules of the game. So that anyone not on the forums can see it, read it, and know what's going on when someone goes by with a big yellow barrel and several stalkers in tow. ^.^;; Because I know that a good majority of con-goers are not on the forums, and would not know all the details about it otherwise.
Then there is one other sign that would replace this one during the last hour when things get tricky. It would also announce to other players that they're running out of time.
Both are the same size. About...one foot by two feet-ish.

Again, people who've told you already what kind of signs are banned should be information enough to let you know what's allowed and what isn't. Signs aren't banned as a whole-- just ones that are inappropriate, considered soliciting (ie, glomp me signs), and/or are against the law. Informational signs like... ones that point to a gathering, explain rules of games, etc are allowed. So from that, I'm guessing it's okay.

Just make sure you clear it with convention staff beforehand.  They'll have a better idea of what's actually allowed and how signs are supposed to be displayed than random forum posters with axes to grind (one way or the other).

If you end up doing this next year, you might try holding a panel to either explain the rules or award prizes.  That gives you a short entry in the program guide and a free one-day Fanime pass for yourself and a helper.  If the rules won't fit, maybe the program guide can point people to a URL for the rules.  If you use a panel to explain the rules, maybe you won't need any signs or flyers at all.

As Jun said, the content of your sign is almost certainly OK.  However, there's the question of where you can put it.  The sign policy discussions so far seem to have assumed that people will carry the signs around with them and be sitting next to them.  As far as I know, nobody has said anything about where you can leave those signs if you're not carrying them or sitting next to them so you can watch them.

I don't know if FanimeCon can explicitly allow an unattended sign.  If they explicitly say that it's allowed, does it obligate them to tell their staff and volunteers and convention center janitors and whomever else to not accidentally clear it out?  I don't even know what department would take care of permissions like that.  I think Stormfalcon is right and you should probably e-mail someone in the contact list (maybe [email protected]?) and see what they say.

T.T
This is getting more complicated by the day.
What I know for sure is this.
I have already contacted the Fanime staff about the game, and I've had it approved. Fanime Con itself could not officially hold it, but we were given the "a-okay." So that is all settled.
But the sign-thing is turning out to be a pain.
Although the panel advice is a great idea. Thank you.

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 10, 2008, 09:17:43 PM
T.T
This is getting more complicated by the day.
What I know for sure is this.
I have already contacted the Fanime staff about the game, and I've had it approved. Fanime Con itself could not officially hold it, but we were given the "a-okay." So that is all settled.
But the sign-thing is turning out to be a pain.
Although the panel advice is a great idea. Thank you.

Neighbor lets try this, you tell me exactly what the sign is going to say and I'll let you know if there is going to be any issues.

Craige...

Quote from: PassingTheBuck on April 10, 2008, 10:05:09 PM

Quote from: MidnightRosebud on April 10, 2008, 09:17:43 PM
T.T
This is getting more complicated by the day.
What I know for sure is this.
I have already contacted the Fanime staff about the game, and I've had it approved. Fanime Con itself could not officially hold it, but we were given the "a-okay." So that is all settled.
But the sign-thing is turning out to be a pain.
Although the panel advice is a great idea. Thank you.

Neighbor lets try this, you tell me exactly what the sign is going to say and I'll let you know if there is going to be any issues.

Craige...

((Alrighty, it says, and I qoute:))


CATCH THE BARREL: Attention all Naruto/Bleach cosplayers! Somewhere in this convention hall someone has either The Barrel, a yellow prop barrel with green trim, or The Box, a blue prop box with black straps, and a flag that says "Catch The Barrel/Box". Your mission: retrieve The Barrel/Box, keep it as long as possible, and deliver it to the center of the Main Staircase, First Floor at 4pm.

How to play: When you find the ninja/shinigami who has The Barrel/Box you may Challenge him/her to one game of Rock/Paper/Scissors. The winner keeps the barrel/box (ties play a tiebreaker match), and carries it until it is taken by another ninja/shinigami. After you lose a Challenge, you must wait 10 minutes for your chakra/reiki to recover before you may Challenge again. When you first get The Barrel/Box, write your name on the outside (badge name and cosplay character name). After that, whenever you win a Challenge, put a tally mark next to your name. When The Barrel/Box is delivered to the finale, prizes will be given to the ninjas/shinigami with the most tally marks by their names, and a "delivery prize" to the ninja/shinigami who brings it in.

You must carry The Barrel/Box so that it, and its flag, is easily visible. You may not conceal or disguise The Barrel/Box in any way, with one exception: starting one hour before the finale you may disguise the barrel/box however you like (short of damaging or altering it) to help you get past the hordes of ninjas/shinigami around the Collection station. The first ninja/shinigami to get the barrel/box within line-of-sight of the Collection Site officially wins the "delivery prize" – you may not challenge for the barrel/box after that.

DO NOT wrestle, play-fight, run, chase each other or cause a disturbance in the convention. DO NOT Challenge other ninjas inside showings, panels or other events. KEEP THE BARREL/BOX IN THE HALLS: if you want to attend a showing or panel or leave the convention for a while, give The Barrel/Box to another ninja/shinigami before you do. If you have trouble getting rid of The Barrel/Box, or don't want to keep it please leave at the Collection Site to be picked up by an eager player. DO NOT OPEN THE BARREL/BOX or something very bad will happen to you. DO NOT CHEAT! DO NOT take The Barrel/Box away and hide it, DO NOT pass it back and forth among a small team of friends without letting anyone else have a turn.

CATCH THAT PRIZE: When the targets are delivered to Endgame, the single Ninja with the most tallies on The Barrel will recieve the title of Fanime Con 2008 Hokage, and the Shinigami with the most tallies on the Hougyoku Box will be the Fanime Con 2008 Soul Society King!

NINJAS VS. SHINIGAMI! In addition to getting your own target, it's time to prove once and for all which are better, Ninjas or Shinigami. If you see a member of the opposing team carrying their target you may Challenge to take it. Don't bother to take it from members of your own side, only from the opposing team. When you take the opposing team's target from them, put a tally mark in the space marked for Opposing Team Captures. Don't write your name – this is a team effort. Keep the captured target, Box or Barrel, until a member of the opposing team defeats you at a Challenge and gets it back. If you see a member of the opposing team carrying your prize, Challenge them to retrieve it and defend your side's honor! At the end game we will see which team has more captures, and learn once and for all whether Ninjas or Shinigami reign at Fanime Con 2008!

*Naruto = Barrel *~* Bleach = Hougyoku Box*

((The Second Poster is as follows:))





((And that's just about to a tee too! Colors and everything. ^_^))