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As suggested above, have any of you? Have you seen someone or know someone who has?

Ah, er.... geez. I've heard of people sleeping in the lobby...? Either way is illegal.

Yikes. O_o; Even if sleeping in the lobby or video screening rooms are frowned down upon, at least sleep there if you honestly have no other way to get a place to stay. Sleeping on the streets would suck even more.

Though, if you don't have a place to stay, try to find people who are willing to room with you so it's cheaper when ya split the bill.

Quote from: redroses3164 on April 09, 2008, 06:51:49 PM
Yikes. O_o; Even if sleeping in the lobby or video screening rooms are frowned down upon, at least sleep there if you honestly have no other way to get a place to stay. Sleeping on the streets would suck even more.

Though, if you don't have a place to stay, try to find people who are willing to room with you so it's cheaper when ya split the bill.

OR NOT GO?

Seriously... if you can't afford to pay for a con and have a place to sleep, then you shouldn't be going.

Some people cant get rooms because there are none, others might do it for the thrill (don't ask me why).
Would you do it if you all the rooms were out and couldn't find a friend to stay with?

BTW, I want you guys to know that Im not going to do this, me and my friends are staying at my friend's Nena's house.
I was just curious if it happens.

I did see it happen at AX a few years back. It's really unfortunate and embarassing, and gives the con as whole a bad image, aside from being illegal and unsanitary (no showers, etc)

Quote from: PyronIkari on April 09, 2008, 07:18:51 PM

Quote from: redroses3164 on April 09, 2008, 06:51:49 PM
Yikes. O_o; Even if sleeping in the lobby or video screening rooms are frowned down upon, at least sleep there if you honestly have no other way to get a place to stay. Sleeping on the streets would suck even more.

Though, if you don't have a place to stay, try to find people who are willing to room with you so it's cheaper when ya split the bill.

OR NOT GO?

Seriously... if you can't afford to pay for a con and have a place to sleep, then you shouldn't be going.

yeah, man seriously... screw poor people, right? I mean anime is, after all, the privilege of the rich.  Affordable? Heck no! The purpose of Fanime is to purposefully exclude poor people...

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and this is the first year I can actually afford a room nearby.  I think its a shame that people cant afford to get a room at the con, especially those who come from poor backgrounds.  I have a job now, but back in the day, money was tight, and asking my family for money for this DEFINITELY wasnt justified.  As a teenager, money was tight, even when I had an income.

Frankly, without a hotel room nearby, the convention experience just isnt the same. if you have to drive back home, then you miss a good bit of the programming.  if you have a room nearby, you can have 90% of the con experience, if you so choose.

i never slept on the streets, but i didn't have a hotel room either, and i always felt as though i missed out at least a little bit.  Why? because I was poor.

if you can afford to go to the con, but not afford a hotel room, there something wrong right there.

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 09, 2008, 08:24:39 PM

Quote from: PyronIkari on April 09, 2008, 07:18:51 PM

Quote from: redroses3164 on April 09, 2008, 06:51:49 PM
Yikes. O_o; Even if sleeping in the lobby or video screening rooms are frowned down upon, at least sleep there if you honestly have no other way to get a place to stay. Sleeping on the streets would suck even more.

Though, if you don't have a place to stay, try to find people who are willing to room with you so it's cheaper when ya split the bill.

OR NOT GO?

Seriously... if you can't afford to pay for a con and have a place to sleep, then you shouldn't be going.

yeah, man seriously... screw poor people, right? I mean anime is, after all, the privilege of the rich.  Affordable? Heck no! The purpose of Fanime is to purposefully exclude poor people...

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and this is the first year I can actually afford a room nearby.  I think its a shame that people cant afford to get a room at the con, especially those who come from poor backgrounds.  I have a job now, but back in the day, money was tight, and asking my family for money for this DEFINITELY wasnt justified.  As a teenager, money was tight, even when I had an income.

Frankly, without a hotel room nearby, the convention experience just isnt the same. if you have to drive back home, then you miss a good bit of the programming.  if you have a room nearby, you can have 90% of the con experience, if you so choose.

i never slept on the streets, but i didn't have a hotel room either, and i always felt as though i missed out at least a little bit.  Why? because I was poor.

Oh please, don't try to give us your sob story. Pyron was just bringing up the fact that if you don't have money for a hotel then you shouldn't plan on staying around at the con. It isn't fanime "Excluding the poor", the fact of the matter is those who have the money to get a hotel room have the convenience of being near to the con. It's no fault of theirs that they have money, nor yours that you don't (usually).

In any case, don't try to turn this into an ethical argument about poor vs. rich. Either find a way to get a hotel room with your friends, or don't plan on sleeping in the convention center/on the streets/some other irresponsible lodging solution.

I remember seeing people sleeping like near the doors or the Artist Alley area and along the walls in sleeping bags and all. One guy i think he was an Organization XIII cosplayer had all his shit and whatnot handcuffed to his wrist.

There weren't alot of them but it was still a WTH moment.

but its true, isnt it?

those who stay at the hilton and the marriot directly adjoining enjoy far greater ease of access then anyone else. they are the ones who can mobilize more money, and faster. those who stay there tend to be from higher socioeconomic status, therefore those from socioeconomic high status enjoy better access.  one way or another, that is the plain fact of it.

coincidence, societal design... i never blamed fanime, but the hotels are protecting their financial interests by seeking to actively enforce the vagrancy policies.

none of it changes the fact that poor kids miss out.  someone should start some sort of fanime-scholarship fund.

Actually the Hilton is the cheapest of any of the hotels... The Montgomery and Fairmont are the farthest, and most expensive. Their rooms are ritzy, but certainly not the best in "ease of access".

ROFL - So I read at the bottom of the main page where it said, "last updates posts" and it read,

"has any one lived on the streets during Fanime because they didn't get a Ho"

Quote from: Moonblossom on April 09, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
Actually the Hilton is the cheapest of any of the hotels... The Montgomery and Fairmont are the farthest, and most expensive. Their rooms are ritzy, but certainly not the best in "ease of access".

I enjoy the marriot since the whole connected to the con part *of course*. Plus I get really cool deals on Ebay for rooms on the lowest floors. Last year I got the 5th floor and a free pizza.

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 09, 2008, 08:24:39 PM
yeah, man seriously... screw poor people, right? I mean anime is, after all, the privilege of the rich.  Affordable? Heck no! The purpose of Fanime is to purposefully exclude poor people...

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and this is the first year I can actually afford a room nearby.  I think its a shame that people cant afford to get a room at the con, especially those who come from poor backgrounds.  I have a job now, but back in the day, money was tight, and asking my family for money for this DEFINITELY wasnt justified.  As a teenager, money was tight, even when I had an income.

Frankly, without a hotel room nearby, the convention experience just isnt the same. if you have to drive back home, then you miss a good bit of the programming.  if you have a room nearby, you can have 90% of the con experience, if you so choose.

i never slept on the streets, but i didn't have a hotel room either, and i always felt as though i missed out at least a little bit.  Why? because I was poor.

HOLY CRAP, WHY HAVE I NOT REALIZED THIS BEFORE... I totally agree now. Why stop at anime though. Poor people should be allowed fine food whenever they want... FOR FREE. Sports cars, movies, concerts, travel, WHY SHOULD ONLY RICH PEOPLE GET THESE LUXURIES?!?!??!?! Poor people should get them too. I'm totally with you man.

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and back when I couldn't afford a room, I found friend's to stay with, I saved up, or I didn't go. My parents haven't supported me since I was 16, and asking my family for money for this DEFINIELY wasnt justified.

What's your god damned point? It's a convention, it's a LUXURY... LUXURIES ARE NOT NECESSITIES, AND IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD A LUXURY YOU DON'T DESERVE SAID LUXURY. If you can't afford said luxury and you still go, then you are STUPID and CANNOT MANAGE MONEY, SO IT'S NO WONDER THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD SAID EVENT.

You're right, cons are different than when you have a hotel room, and spending money. Life is different, when you have a home to sleep in and spending money, then when you don't.

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 09, 2008, 08:37:43 PM
but its true, isnt it?

those who stay at the hilton and the marriot directly adjoining enjoy far greater ease of access then anyone else. they are the ones who can mobilize more money, and faster. those who stay there tend to be from higher socioeconomic status, therefore those from socioeconomic high status enjoy better access.  one way or another, that is the plain fact of it.

coincidence, societal design... i never blamed fanime, but the hotels are protecting their financial interests by seeking to actively enforce the vagrancy policies.

none of it changes the fact that poor kids miss out.  someone should start some sort of fanime-scholarship fund.

thats a bunch of crap. the reason that most of the ppl who go to the con that stay in the marriot or the hilton(or any other good hotel near the con) is because they room with lots of people, most likely close friends.

im rooming with a bunch of my friends, and depending on how many actually show up, im only paying $70 for my share of the room FOR THE WHOLE WEEKEND, and i'm not part of this 'higher socioeconomic status' either.

it comes down to making a budget; i make one every year ive gone to fanime, and i am always able to have a room for the weekend and enjoy myself.

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 09, 2008, 08:24:39 PMbut its true, isnt it?

those who stay at the hilton and the marriot directly adjoining enjoy far greater ease of access then anyone else. they are the ones who can mobilize more money, and faster. those who stay there tend to be from higher socioeconomic status, therefore those from socioeconomic high status enjoy better access.  one way or another, that is the plain fact of it.

coincidence, societal design... i never blamed fanime, but the hotels are protecting their financial interests by seeking to actively enforce the vagrancy policies.

none of it changes the fact that poor kids miss out.  someone should start some sort of fanime-scholarship fund.

Ahahahaha. Looks like it's time to play "Spot the Guy Who Got a B+ in Sociology 101!"

Hate to break it to you, but most Fanime congoers are a far cry from what any sensible person would consider "rich" or "high status".

Most of those in attendance at Fanime in my experience fall into the late teens-late 20s demographic, and I'd be willing to bet that no more than a small fraction of those could afford staying in a hotel for three or four days simply on a whim. Many if not most of them probably saved for months to be able to make the trip.

Oh god, BAWWWW some more emo bumb.

Seriously, if they couldn't find a place to stay during the con, it's most likely their own fault. Poor planning-- you want to go to a con, but need a place to stay? Fine one. Need money? Take the time to plan and save your god damned funding. Not everyone has pockets full of cash all the time, yes... but they actually SPENT THE TIME TO BUDGET AND PLAN THEIR TRIP. As as for the whole "Well, sometimes there are no rooms left" thing is just bs. The Marriot and Hilton may get filled up at some point, but there are other hotels several blocks away, and to say there are no rooms left there is just you being too lazy to check.

If you can't afford to go to a con, don't go. Simple as that.

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 09, 2008, 08:37:43 PM
but its true, isnt it?

those who stay at the hilton and the marriot directly adjoining enjoy far greater ease of access then anyone else. they are the ones who can mobilize more money, and faster. those who stay there tend to be from higher socioeconomic status, therefore those from socioeconomic high status enjoy better access.  one way or another, that is the plain fact of it.

coincidence, societal design... i never blamed fanime, but the hotels are protecting their financial interests by seeking to actively enforce the vagrancy policies.

none of it changes the fact that poor kids miss out.  someone should start some sort of fanime-scholarship fund.

You're kidding?  You HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!  Cause ha ha, that's funny.  I didn't mobilize money, I paid attention to the web site and made sure I reserved a room as soon as it was available.  No money required since I used my bank card to garauntee the room. 

Sigh...

Can a moderator or someone please lock this thread? It's rather pointless.

A) If anyone has slept in the convention center or on the streets, purposely coming to fanime without pre-arranged lodging, they acted irresponsibly and have no pity from me or anyone else who budgets their money correctly, up to months in advance, in order to enjoy the privileges of a Hotel stay.

B) Pyron is right. This convention isn't necessary to live. It's an extra expense, a luxury. If you don't have money, you can't afford to come to Fanime. That's not our fault. If you really want to come to fanime, and you are over 16, chances are it wouldn't be too hard to start saving up and get the money needed for registration and your share of a room.

There will always be haves and have-nots. Deal with it.

Please, lock this thread up. Thanks.

I'm reminded of a story my friend told me about DefCon when somebody fell asleep in a public area there.  When he woke up all of his stuff had been stolen, he had been drawn on with sharpies and his nails had been painted bright pink. 

Probably a good thing that the Fanime crowd isn't as morally questionable as the DefCon crowd...

As everyone has said, the sleeping issue is really rooted upon the responsibility of the con-attendees themselves. You weren't thrown into the convention without any orientation, you planned for the event, and thus will plan to either stay awake until you find a place to stay or simply stay awake. You can't sleep anywhere else for obvious reasoning; there is no "victimization".

I usually don't get a hotel room because of how much I save for Convention, but since I live relatively close, a bus ride away from the Con Hall, I usually hang around the area until first bus rolls out, catch it home, sleep 3-4 hours (6AM to 10AM), then return (Bathing and etc included). If anything if I absolutely have to sleep I try not to inconvenience my friends and curl up into a ball using my jacket as a blanket, on the floor. I don't expect star treatment, because in that sense, I'm a freeloader that just wanted to take a nap, and I shouldn't be using the space accordingly.

I heard rumors here and there people actually knocked on convention attendee's doors and asked for a place to nap (Or asked random folk if they could tag along). How did they tell they were convention attendees? They waited around the elevators and asked. That in itself is a horrible display of character.

~Chun

Quote from: Chun on April 10, 2008, 01:12:11 AM
As everyone has said, the sleeping issue is really rooted upon the responsibility of the con-attendees themselves. You weren't thrown into the convention without any orientation, you planned for the event, and thus will plan to either stay awake until you find a place to stay or simply stay awake. You can't sleep anywhere else for obvious reasoning; there is no "victimization".

I usually don't get a hotel room because of how much I save for Convention, but since I live relatively close, a bus ride away from the Con Hall, I usually hang around the area until first bus rolls out, catch it home, sleep 3-4 hours (6AM to 10AM), then return (Bathing and etc included). If anything if I absolutely have to sleep I try not to inconvenience my friends and curl up into a ball using my jacket as a blanket, on the floor. I don't expect star treatment, because in that sense, I'm a freeloader that just wanted to take a nap, and I shouldn't be using the space accordingly.

I heard rumors here and there people actually knocked on convention attendee's doors and asked for a place to nap (Or asked random folk if they could tag along). How did they tell they were convention attendees? They waited around the elevators and asked. That in itself is a horrible display of character.
~Chun

Yeah I heard that as well from con goers at my college but just rumors it didn't happen to them just their friends I didn't think it was true but now that I hear more of it, I guess it is. I don't take the elevators I use the stairs though they do smell funky. And no one is taging along and useing MY COT!

Christ, if anyone tries to do that to me they're getting reported to hotel security. That's so tactless and gross.

probably the most common offense is people sleeping in the 24 hour video rooms or the concourse of the convention center.

yes, theres policies, rules and laws against it... but ppl still do it.

again it comes down to common sense and whats best for your personal safety.

ironically some ppl 'live' or stay awake all con so i could easily imagine people staying up all 4+ days of the con, which of course isnt reccomended but some ppl get all hyped on the con and gosh knows what.

just be mindful of your surroundings and dont strangers into ur hotel room, well unless ur good at making instant friends. but thats another discussion thread.

Don't you see people,Fanime and the hotels are part of corporate plan to squeeze as much money out of otakus as they can. We gotta stop them!!

Just sarcasm and not a rant disguise as sarcasm.

There is no shame in not going to fanime. As fun as it might be, my basic nescesities will always come first. Hell, being poor forced my first fanime in 01 to be only for one day but enjoyed the hell out of it.

The hotels "protecting their financial interest" is horse $#it. They allowed fanime to give discounted prices on hotel rooms. If anything,they are quite lenient.

Of course satanic_mechanic just wants to rant because he can't save money right or prepare for fanime, but I think everybody's adressing on these issues is good for newbies to the con who might stumble on this thread.

Okay, so...

in 2007, working graveyard shift for Rovers, I caught people sleeping in some of the WEIRDEST places...

There are roving patrols at night just to watch out for people who sleep on the con floors and other places.

People have actually gotten completely pissed at me for waking them up in awkward places. I won't go into the locations (Seeing as how this year, I don't wanna give people ideas)...but yea...people...disappoint me sometimes haha.

Quote from: Jerry on April 10, 2008, 08:34:47 AM
probably the most common offense is people sleeping in the 24 hour video rooms or the concourse of the convention center.

That was me more than 15 years ago at the San Jose Red Lion Inn (now Double Tree).
I couldn't afford a hotel room, and I didn't want to miss a minute of the convention (Anime Con '91 & Anime Expo '92).
And yes, I skipped showering. Funny how some things never change... except that 99% of the attendees were male.

Quote from: Chun on April 10, 2008, 01:12:11 AM
I heard rumors here and there people actually knocked on convention attendee's doors and asked for a place to nap (Or asked random folk if they could tag along). How did they tell they were convention attendees? They waited around the elevators and asked. That in itself is a horrible display of character.

~Chun

This will be my first time going to Fanime and I hope I don't have to experience something like this. It's sad to hear that this sort of thing happens, but I guess it's unavoidable.

what i wonder is if they can afford an all weekend pass, why dont they get a one day pass and use what money is left for the con, or i dunno ...food!

Quote from: dibbly on April 10, 2008, 11:46:31 AM
what i wonder is if they can afford an all weekend pass, why dont they get a one day pass and use what money is left for the con, or i dunno ...food!

Because to an otaku, anime and manga is his food. Every dollar must be spent in the dealer's room.

Quote from: Steve.Young on April 10, 2008, 09:06:18 AM
Okay, so...

in 2007, working graveyard shift for Rovers, I caught people sleeping in some of the WEIRDEST places...

There are roving patrols at night just to watch out for people who sleep on the con floors and other places.

People have actually gotten completely pissed at me for waking them up in awkward places. I won't go into the locations (Seeing as how this year, I don't wanna give people ideas)...but yea...people...disappoint me sometimes haha.

I knew there where rovers, I saw people still walking arounf I mean the screening room was shut down for the night, the rave was far over and I still saw people moving about.

Quote from: Chocolate Lover on April 10, 2008, 01:35:36 PM

Quote from: dibbly on April 10, 2008, 11:46:31 AM
what i wonder is if they can afford an all weekend pass, why dont they get a one day pass and use what money is left for the con, or i dunno ...food!

Because to an otaku, anime and manga is his food. Every dollar must be spent in the dealer's room.

This is called being stupid, not an otaku. Idiots like this give otaku a bad name... rather... an even WORSE name.

Quote from: Steve.Young on April 10, 2008, 09:06:18 AM
Okay, so...

in 2007, working graveyard shift for Rovers, I caught people sleeping in some of the WEIRDEST places...

There are roving patrols at night just to watch out for people who sleep on the con floors and other places.

People have actually gotten completely pissed at me for waking them up in awkward places. I won't go into the locations (Seeing as how this year, I don't wanna give people ideas)...but yea...people...disappoint me sometimes haha.

my guess is one of these places is probably the bathrooms.

its bad when people try to sleep in the video rooms; its completely sad and pathetic when you see ppl go into a vid room with a blanket and start to construct a makeshift bed out of the chairs set up there.....yea, they didn't get very far with that plan (thanks to rovers for their assistance in stopping that)

I've never caught anyone who slept in the bathrooms, but I guess I'm going to have to check more often (At least the guys bathrooms...girls bathrooms I don't remember any female rovers on graveyard).

Make shift beds...Check
Under convention tables...check
Under Stage Zero...Check

Not to mention the many places that I check that I haven't listed...people get creative. Don't do it...makes my job harder =P

Quote from: Steve.Young on April 10, 2008, 10:06:21 PM
I've never caught anyone who slept in the bathrooms, but I guess I'm going to have to check more often (At least the guys bathrooms...girls bathrooms I don't remember any female rovers on graveyard).

Make shift beds...Check
Under convention tables...check
Under Stage Zero...Check

Not to mention the many places that I check that I haven't listed...people get creative. Don't do it...makes my job harder =P

dont forget the elevator in the convention center that was near the dealers room last year, any video room that has a very small amount of people, the arcade(someone actually was sleeping right next to a DDR machine last year), any table that has cloth covering the underside(this includes the water tables as well), the downstairs area of the con center(as well as those bathrooms), chairs in the hotel(i imagine that is the hotels' problem, though), and other areas.

all i can say is wow
and how bout showering...

Just out of curiosity, from a rover's perspective, what is the penalty for someone who just happens to fall asleep in a chair? My sleep schedule is beyond fucked sometimes, and I've been known to inadvertently nod off while watching a movie or whatever. I used to fall asleep in class all the time, not due to boredom but simply the inability to stay awake. If that happens in the middle of the day, would I get into a lot of trouble?

simply speaking, the short answer would be no.

from what I know we're usually told to wake the said person up. and just ask them kindly to " please be on there way... "

Other than that, just be safe when you accidentally nod off in public, again there's alot of strange otakus out there.

my fear now is someone who was asleep who woke up some where or doing something they werent suppose to be doing...  :-[

Alright, thanks.

Usually I'm with a friend or several friends, so I'm not worried about people doing anything inappropriate to me, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't get in too much trouble if it did happen. It's not as if I'm lying across three chairs with a blanket on me, just like "Oh whoops nodded off"

just be glad u didnt nod off in the hentai rooms.

those are some pretty weird and random stories i tell ya.  :P

I end up falling asleep sitting up too.  I don't mean to, and I do have a car to drive home in, but some anime just ends up putting me to sleep before I realize it even if I wasn't sleepy at all before the anime started, and once that happens, it often leaves me too drowsy to make it home.  So, a few times, I ended up having to nap in my car before driving home.

just dont drive sleepy PLEASE.  :-[

ive had a few friends who had a close calls (myself included), and i did have my sisters friend of a friend crash into a gas tanker and unfortunately the person didnt make it.  :'(

if ur in a parking structure i wouldnt recommend it because of all the carbon monoxide. so again rest in safe areas (and if at all legal areas) please!

Quote from: PyronIkari on April 10, 2008, 09:45:30 PM

Quote from: Chocolate Lover on April 10, 2008, 01:35:36 PM
Because to an otaku, anime and manga is his food. Every dollar must be spent in the dealer's room.

This is called being stupid, not an otaku. Idiots like this give otaku a bad name... rather... an even WORSE name.

Yeah..I pretty much have to agree with you on that. Out of the 8 cons I have been to I've only spent money in the dealer's room...twice I believe. And once was just for some Ramune <.<

I'm in agreement with pretty much everyone in this thread. My first con was the only con I didn't stay at the hotel..and that was because I couldn't afford to at the time. So I just took public transit (took me about an hour) to and from.

Staff and security won't let you sleep ANYWHERE (including the video rooms), so if you intend on doing this...pretty much don't.  If you don't have a choice, make a quick buddy who has one while you're there who might be generous, or find yourself an alley or corner somewhere outside the hotel or you can bet you won't find more than a wink of sleep.

Quote from: PyronIkari on April 09, 2008, 08:47:52 PM

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on April 09, 2008, 08:24:39 PM
yeah, man seriously... screw poor people, right? I mean anime is, after all, the privilege of the rich.  Affordable? Heck no! The purpose of Fanime is to purposefully exclude poor people...

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and this is the first year I can actually afford a room nearby.  I think its a shame that people cant afford to get a room at the con, especially those who come from poor backgrounds.  I have a job now, but back in the day, money was tight, and asking my family for money for this DEFINITELY wasnt justified.  As a teenager, money was tight, even when I had an income.

Frankly, without a hotel room nearby, the convention experience just isnt the same. if you have to drive back home, then you miss a good bit of the programming.  if you have a room nearby, you can have 90% of the con experience, if you so choose.

i never slept on the streets, but i didn't have a hotel room either, and i always felt as though i missed out at least a little bit.  Why? because I was poor.

HOLY CRAP, WHY HAVE I NOT REALIZED THIS BEFORE... I totally agree now. Why stop at anime though. Poor people should be allowed fine food whenever they want... FOR FREE. Sports cars, movies, concerts, travel, WHY SHOULD ONLY RICH PEOPLE GET THESE LUXURIES?!?!??!?! Poor people should get them too. I'm totally with you man.

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and back when I couldn't afford a room, I found friend's to stay with, I saved up, or I didn't go. My parents haven't supported me since I was 16, and asking my family for money for this DEFINIELY wasnt justified.

What's your god damned point? It's a convention, it's a LUXURY... LUXURIES ARE NOT NECESSITIES, AND IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD A LUXURY YOU DON'T DESERVE SAID LUXURY. If you can't afford said luxury and you still go, then you are STUPID and CANNOT MANAGE MONEY, SO IT'S NO WONDER THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD SAID EVENT.

You're right, cons are different than when you have a hotel room, and spending money. Life is different, when you have a home to sleep in and spending money, then when you don't.

Um... that actually makes perfect sense. Pyron's right-- conventions are for FUN, like a trip to Disneyland; if you can't afford to go, you probably shouldn't go. (Except Disneyland is ungodly expensive; Fanime, a bit more price-friendly. In nearly EVERY sense.)

For those of us that live in towns closeby, I recommend doing what I'm doing: Either drive there and back, bus there and back, or a combination of both (I may only drive to Fanime one or two days of the con). Great Con fun, but without the awkward sounds of the fanboys next door that decided to whip out the new hentai vid they just bought for $3. Or, similar results from previous, similar-minded patrons who were there just before you.

Quote from: QuacoreZX on April 11, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Staff and security won't let you sleep ANYWHERE (including the video rooms), so if you intend on doing this...pretty much don't.  If you don't have a choice, make a quick buddy who has one while you're there who might be generous, or find yourself an alley or corner somewhere outside the hotel or you can bet you won't find more than a wink of sleep.

Bad idea. Instead of rovers, have fun dealing with the Police.

Really people, it's not that difficult to understand: If you don't have the money to stay in a hotel, don't plan on sleeping on the streets, in the convention center, or anywhere else besides your home or wherever you made lodging arrangements. This isn't rocket science.

Someone PLEASE lock this thread already.

No sleeping.  Anywhere, ever.

Sleep is for the weak.

NoDoz is for the strong.

Quote from: QuacoreZX on April 11, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Staff and security won't let you sleep ANYWHERE (including the video rooms), so if you intend on doing this...pretty much don't.  If you don't have a choice, make a quick buddy who has one while you're there who might be generous, or find yourself an alley or corner somewhere outside the hotel or you can bet you won't find more than a wink of sleep.

What kind of terrible suggestion is that?  That's just asking to get mugged, attacked, robbed, etc.  If you don't have a place to sleep... go home, or don't come at all (or don't sleep, but that's not really a good idea--1) you'll probably be more than a little crazy at the end, and 2) you won't have bathed either, so nobody will want to be near you).

For the love of god, do not go sleep outside on the streets.

Hmm, only time i can recall "living on the streets" was at AX one year, and even then, i managed to make some friends during the con and stayed in their room for a night or 2. The other nights, well, i slept in my car in the parking garage for a few hours then went back out. Better than sleeping the dealer halls/convention/streets, at least i wasnt in anyones way.

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on April 09, 2008, 06:23:40 PM
Ah, er.... geez. I've heard of people sleeping in the lobby...? Either way is illegal.

Then you better bring the f-ing police.

(And keep them there for the glomping arguments too...)

Look, last year was completely wrecked because I felt that I had to get a room that I probably would've been escorted to in handcuffs to actually get back to.

I am not going to spend $120/night just to have a room that I will literally need to be forced to use.

I mean, seriously, if I were to attend Fanime this year, I probably would be arrested.  No bones about it.  I've lost basically all respect for anime fandom, and, really, most respect for most of the large cons too.  And this is one of the issues.

You don't want people to sleep in the screening rooms??  Then you can basically end programming at 2 AM, call the police on all sleepers, and/or force people to either get a hotel room (local residents of San Jose excepted) or not come.

Let's just say I almost threw on security after last year.

Quote from: FanFicGuru on April 09, 2008, 11:24:04 PM
Can a moderator or someone please lock this thread? It's rather pointless.

A) If anyone has slept in the convention center or on the streets, purposely coming to fanime without pre-arranged lodging, they acted irresponsibly and have no pity from me or anyone else who budgets their money correctly, up to months in advance, in order to enjoy the privileges of a Hotel stay.

B) Pyron is right. This convention isn't necessary to live. It's an extra expense, a luxury. If you don't have money, you can't afford to come to Fanime. That's not our fault. If you really want to come to fanime, and you are over 16, chances are it wouldn't be too hard to start saving up and get the money needed for registration and your share of a room.

There will always be haves and have-nots. Deal with it.

Please, lock this thread up. Thanks.

Then there should be a forced declaration of where you're staying for the con.  No room?  No con.

Let's just say that, without sleeping in the screening rooms and the like, I probably couldn't have afforded the last four Fanimes I attended, and certainly won't afford this one, so I'm openly going to try to get banned from Fanime before the con takes place.

Quote from: darkstar on April 16, 2008, 11:57:16 PM

Quote from: Jun-Watarase on April 09, 2008, 06:23:40 PM
Ah, er.... geez. I've heard of people sleeping in the lobby...? Either way is illegal.

Then you better bring the f-ing police.

(And keep them there for the glomping arguments too...)

Look, last year was completely wrecked because I felt that I had to get a room that I probably would've been escorted to in handcuffs to actually get back to.

I am not going to spend $120/night just to have a room that I will literally need to be forced to use.

I mean, seriously, if I were to attend Fanime this year, I probably would be arrested.  No bones about it.  I've lost basically all respect for anime fandom, and, really, most respect for most of the large cons too.  And this is one of the issues.

You don't want people to sleep in the screening rooms??  Then you can basically end programming at 2 AM, call the police on all sleepers, and/or force people to either get a hotel room (local residents of San Jose excepted) or not come.

Let's just say I almost threw on security after last year.

...and the point of you lashing toward Jun is because...

...no particular reason.

Also the fact that there's nothing about the reasoning for your belief in this "handcuff" possibility;

I don't understand why your post is enamored with rage simply because you (I assume, because really, this post seems quite out of place) bought a room and had a run-in with staff.

Then you begin to throw an opinion about anime fandom when it's not necessary.

People that attend Fanime should be responsible for their own health, not curfewed, if that's what you're pushing.

Yes, people are not allowed to fall asleep in viewing rooms. They're not Big Brother, you know when you're tired, it's time to go back to whatever you bought/stay in.

Really, I still don't get why you posted this. Really puzzling.

EDIT: Saw this post.

Ah, I understand now, you expected a room WITH your badge when you registered, like how you attend Science Camp in elementary school with pocket change to go buy candy (Your badge is candy!). That somewhat clears it up.

QuoteLet's just say that, without sleeping in the screening rooms and the like, I probably couldn't have afforded the last four Fanimes I attended, and certainly won't afford this one, so I'm openly going to try to get banned from Fanime before the con takes place.

Oh, this makes it very clear.

You're just an idiot.

Problem solved.

Requesting the immediate locking of this monstrosity of a thread.

~Chun

Darkstar, what... in god's name are you trying to say? I honestly don't see the point of your post. Are you just being butthurt and bawwwing over the fact that people are against those who decide to sleep in the convention center just to attend the con? Doing so isn't also just pathetic, but it's against the law to do so, especially on private property. People shouldn't do it. Getting a hotel room is perfectly logical, and the way you're describing your reasons against doing so are pretty much the reasons to get a hotel room in the first place. It's a place to put your stuff and sleep while you're travelling somewhere. That's what people pay the hotel for. That's why the hotel is there. Make sense?

As Pyron had said, going to an anime convention is a privilege, not a right. If you can't budget your money to go responsibly, you shouldn't at all. Why does this not make sense? Augh, I second Chun's motion of "You're an idiot" and locking this thread before more pointless banter ensues. gg

i think this argument/discussion was already walked through; re-treading it still brings about the same response. Jun and Chun have both given good responses, and i await Mikey's post as well.

still.....

Darkstar: im going to assume that you are one of those people that doesn't want to miss a single smeggin' minute of the con.

Too bad, you gonna miss some of the con anyways.

How about this: instead of trying to boast about how you're going to get yourself banned from fanime, how about this: JUST DON'T GO! save yourself and everyone else the trouble and keep your whiny ass home.

Quote from: otakuapprentice on April 17, 2008, 01:00:55 AM
i think this argument/discussion was already walked through; re-treading it still brings about the same response. Jun and Chun have both given good responses, and i await Mikey's post as well.

I don't know if Mikey's going to even bother with this one, unless he plans on just scolding what an idiot this guy is. There's no point in posting on this thread any further; everything that needed to be said has been. It'll be a while until the OP or a mod notices and locks this thread, methinks.

Tony has forsaken us. XD

Quote from: Zog on April 14, 2008, 01:31:45 PM
No sleeping.  Anywhere, ever.

Sleep is for the weak.

NoDoz is for the strong.

what he said. also sleeping with your eyes open FTW!!!

As much as I hate to flog a dead horse, otakuapprentice, what in the Sam Hill are you smoking? If you're so disenchanted with Fanime/otaku culture/whatthefuckever just don't fucking go. How complicated is that?

Hell, most "otaku" annoy the crap out of me too, but there are still a lot of really awesome people at Fanime, friends I haven't seen in ages, and even just the opportunity to take a vacation and get the hell away from work (despite the fact that I love my job).

If you feel the need to forcibly be banned to prevent yourself from attending an event you seemingly don't WANT to attend, you've got some issues that seriously need to be worked out...

Quote from: Moonblossom on April 17, 2008, 07:54:51 AM
As much as I hate to flog a dead horse, otakuapprentice, what in the Sam Hill are you smoking?

Lol. Are you... addressing the right person...?

Just ignore darkstar. This idiot pops up once in a while just to complain about hotels and how the con should shut down at night. All because he's to much of a retard to plan ahead. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again in the future.
And I think Pyron already scolded him, except the douche had posted under a different name.

No need for Mikey to get involved; he already did, and nothing happened. Lots of us have tried to explain to darkstar how things work, and I've personally tried to come up with ideas on how he could enjoy the con without paying for a hotel, but he refuses to acknowledge any options but his own.

And that's only a piece of the story!

Darkstar, don't come to the convention. Go enjoy the weekend somewhere else.