So has anyone heard anything paranormal recently? I just love to hear stuff like that. I wanna investigate a real paranormal case someday. Has anyone ever used a ouija board before? Where do you think I can get one actually?
I'm assuming you mean ouija boards? I've used them before, you can actually make one yourself and use a coin or some kind of object as the planchette. Just take a piece of paper, write yes/no, letters and numbers along the bottom.
With me, they sometimes move faster when I play with a certain person, and slower with another. My friend, who is a hardcore Buddhist, played once with me several months ago, and we discovered that the planchette could move with only him playing. I've never been able to have it move without having another person's finger on there.
I don't really get too into it, like believing what it says all the time. Actually I don't take anything it says too seriously. :)
So you don't need anything special for an Ouija board? You can just make it out of a crappy sheet of paper?
I was told that you can get possessed if you do it by yourself
My friend most definitely did not get possessed after he did it by himself. I believe only weak-minded people can get "possessed", although I don't really know what that consists of... Besides, isn't it more fun to do it with a buddy than by yourself?
Yes you can make it out of a sheet out of paper. I've done it numerous times in my high school chemistry class. Of course...after you're done with it, you have to BURN IT!!..
Just kidding you can crumple it up and throw it away. =]
With a one of thoes things is you HAVE to always end the conversation and end the portal because when I was in peru they did something like that at a neighbors and some bad spirits got out and attacked the home, you could hear men yelling and saying abusive things when there were no males living in there.
I have seen paranormal activity, I sometimes sense spirits its really strong in when I visit my family in peru. We have a statue of a saint and everytime my mom or any of us pass him his cheeks always are super bright red like if he were laughing at you. Because when my aunt bought him he didnt have any pigment on his cheeks, My aunties has spirits running down the halls, eyes under the bed when everyones asleep, movement. Its some freaky shit man
This one time...
At band camp...
So like once...
I'd woken up and had to use the bathroom. So I went into the bathroom, sat on the toilet, and did my thing. So while I was sitting there I noticed the at the shower curtin had start moving. I figured it was because there might've been a draft coming in from an open widow, but no windows were open. So, I figured it might've been wind from when I walked by, but that wwas a minute ago and the curtin had settled by the time.
So the curtin slowly krept up, and up, and up... All on it's own.
My Grandmother's house is undeniably haunted or, more or less, has spirits in it. When you walk through the halls you can feel that something is there with you. When you sleep in the rooms your skin crawls with the paranoia that something might be behind you when you turn over.
The feeling of something else being with you is quite strong in the women in the family (or atleast my imidiate family. Granma, Mama, Rachel (my sister) and me...)
My grandfather stays up latest and never feels anything. Its weird but I've become used to the uninvited guest and their presence. I actually invite them.
Just my two cents.
Quote from: JohnnyAR on April 28, 2008, 12:55:37 PM
So you don't need anything special for an Ouija board? You can just make it out of a crappy sheet of paper?
I was told that you can get possessed if you do it by yourself
Some people might not agree but from what I`ve read the spirits that speak through ouija boards and ghost are most if not always demonic sprirts try to deceive people.
I don't use Ouija boards. Its way too easy for something to possess the board or lie through it. It could be a real ghost but it can also be demonic. Tools that help "things" talk to you can be also used as a gateway. Some sort of energy is being sent to your side if something can talk to you. That energy can be either good or bad.
Just be careful, k?
Now onto ghosts... ghosts are alright. Sometimes I feel sad for them though. A lot aren't really harmful but there are some that are. I'd like to think that'd they'd change over time but people don't easy change who they are a lot of the time. Sometimes its impossible. -.-;
And then there's the moments where time slips and gives an ghostly impression.
the ouija board is like doing a seance, you open up the gate to the otherside and knowing who will answer it could be good or bad.
Seances are weeird
=.= A ghost at my other house played a few notes on Halloween. No one believes me, but I was the only one home and twice in about 10 minutes, I clearly heard a strike of a note on my piano.
Dunno. My folks are pretty superstitious. Maybe I just have a thick head or something, but I don't really have a problem with the ghosts that my folks supposedly hear. I mean, sure, I do get freaked out on occasion, but I'm not gonna let ghosts get in the way of my studies. Or, maybe they don't bother 'cause they know that I have it pretty hard already. Hmm... that's pretty nice of them... or maybe I just have a thick head. You know, they say my father's house is haunted. I'm not 100% sure where, but I sleep there, play games there late at night, and etc. I'm not going to walk into an uber famous haunted house , but my cents are this: ghosts could use some entertainment, too. Crack out them dance moves, brother from the past! Let's get down and learn about HISTORRRRYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
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"Uh... Hanyuu? What are you doing over my shoulder?"
one time i saw the future.
true story.
This one time, I dreamed my friends mother died. I don't know how, the dream was pretty intense but I woke up and forgot some of the details.
However, two days later, she did die. She was fighting cancer or something.
Coincidence, I don't know but it sure scared the fuck outta me.
I don't usually dream at all, but when I do dream, they're put into two categories, dreams with sounds and dreams without sounds....
Usually the dreams without sound are just impossible and out right ridiculous.
But I've noticed that anything I dream with sound often comes true in 3 months.
This happened more than four times already in the past 5 years.
Quote from: Rei-Rei on April 29, 2008, 07:43:49 AM
I don't usually dream at all, but when I do dream, they're put into two categories, dreams with sounds and dreams without sounds....
Usually the dreams without sound are just impossible and out right ridiculous.
But I've noticed that anything I dream with sound often comes true in 3 months.
This happened more than four times already in the past 5 years.
Damn, thats happened to me too!
Quote from: Makou on April 28, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
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"Uh... Hanyuu? What are you doing over my shoulder?"
Um... where'd that come from?That was pretty random
Trust me. He gets a lot worse than that. >.>;
I mean, sometimes when he walks in the door, he may resemble the devil.
Quote from: Rei-Rei on April 29, 2008, 07:20:32 PM
Trust me. He gets a lot worse than that. >.>;
I mean, sometimes when he walks in the door, he may resemble the devil.
Not as bad as you. Sometimes you don't even make it out the door before someone steps on your short behind.
I walked across the street this afternoon and on the floor there was a rainbow circle that stayed in front of me for the duration of crossing the street. It was freaky.
Quote from: Rei-Rei on April 29, 2008, 07:20:32 PM
Trust me. He gets a lot worse than that. >.>;
I mean, sometimes when he walks in the door, he may resemble the devil.
Wait? Who resembles the devil?
Out of most people I know, a lot of "paranormal" things tend to happen around me. But uh, my stance is that... ghosts, spirits, religion in general were created to explain things beyond human comprehension. I don't really believe in anything in particular, but I am a scardy-cat at times, as I have a very active and horrific imagination.
I mean, theories to explain things can be made, but there's no actual way for any of us to make an actual conclusion. In terms of things like spirits and the afterlife, life itself is an energy after all. Energy has to go somewhere, if it follows the universal physical law of conversation of energy. It most likely goes to one's body rotting into the earth and serving as energy to provide nutrients to plants as fertilizer, but uh... the rest could go elsewhere, I guess. But if anything, I have doubts that the energy released from one's body at death actually remains conscious.
Most encounters are often far-fetched; they're either hallucinations, coincidences, or a result of some sort of mental ailment. No matter the result, there's always a scientific explanation somehow-- just, it's more than likely that no one on Earth has the intellect to do so. :U
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Quote from: JohnnyAR on May 01, 2008, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: Rei-Rei on April 29, 2008, 07:20:32 PM
Trust me. He gets a lot worse than that. >.>;
I mean, sometimes when he walks in the door, he may resemble the devil.
Wait? Who resembles the devil?
Makou....
>.>;
<.<;
*hides*
hey, wait a sec.
I have the number that begins with 666.
unless anyone else has that number for their phone. :P
Quote from: Jerry on May 02, 2008, 08:25:08 AM
hey, wait a sec.
I have the number that begins with 666.
unless anyone else has that number for their phone. :P
Actually, it was discovered around 3 years ago that the Number of the Beast is originally 616.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44169
And in other related news.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7163767.stm
Guess there isn't a 666 area code in America.
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 01, 2008, 07:35:23 PM
Most encounters are often far-fetched; they're either hallucinations, coincidences, or a result of some sort of mental ailment. No matter the result, there's always a scientific explanation somehow-- just, it's more than likely that no one on Earth has the intellect to do so. :U
I dunno if I agree. How would we be aware that we can't know that, unless we've been MADE aware that we can't know that? If we were aware we can't know that, then SOMEONE or SOMETHING would have to be just that far above us to make that conjecture.
If you ask me, I think science only explains the physical facets of the world, which, for all we know, could be less than there really is to the Earth. Perhaps science (in most cases) is the HOW as the paranormal is the WHY? Much like the difference between a purpose and a reason, maybe the two are not contradictory; just explaining two different factors. I just don't think that the physical plane is the only plane in existance; saying so, at least for me, would be an assumption on which I have no proof.
While I'm all for learning about physics and chemistry (fascinating stuff, mostly physics, haha), I just don't think it can explain THE ENTIRE Universe; just the "Physical" properties.
I could interject my exact opinion/belief on ghosts and spirits and whatnot, but... that could spark something I quite frankly don't have the time or energy for.
The space time continuum is something we have yet to understand. We can conceptualize this and try to paint everything into the various dimensions that we can understand, but there are only things that we are guessing at.
Theory of, theory of, theory of....notice that a lot of stuff you learn is still theories...not exactly concrete solid facts, because our understanding of things change on a consistent basis.
Quote from: zoupzuop2 on May 02, 2008, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 01, 2008, 07:35:23 PM
Most encounters are often far-fetched; they're either hallucinations, coincidences, or a result of some sort of mental ailment. No matter the result, there's always a scientific explanation somehow-- just, it's more than likely that no one on Earth has the intellect to do so. :U
I dunno if I agree. How would we be aware that we can't know that, unless we've been MADE aware that we can't know that? If we were aware we can't know that, then SOMEONE or SOMETHING would have to be just that far above us to make that conjecture.
If you ask me, I think science only explains the physical facets of the world, which, for all we know, could be less than there really is to the Earth. Perhaps science (in most cases) is the HOW as the paranormal is the WHY? Much like the difference between a purpose and a reason, maybe the two are not contradictory; just explaining two different factors. I just don't think that the physical plane is the only plane in existance; saying so, at least for me, would be an assumption on which I have no proof.
While I'm all for learning about physics and chemistry (fascinating stuff, mostly physics, haha), I just don't think it can explain THE ENTIRE Universe; just the "Physical" properties.
I could interject my exact opinion/belief on ghosts and spirits and whatnot, but... that could spark something I quite frankly don't have the time or energy for.
But why is it that you have this fixed belief that science is limited to only physical things? Because physical things are the easiest to explain, because they're natural phenomenons. Anything that cannot be seen by the eye is considered an unnatural phenomenon, but it doesn't mean it cannot be determined scientifically. To say that is to knock off a HUUUUGE chunk of what science has already discovered to have an existance. How do you determine mental ailments? Back in the day, people considered it to be possession by The Devil.
What about wavelengths and frequencies? How were they supposedly discovered? Not all of them can be heard, mind you. Everything had to be determined somehow, and eventually put into a form where they can physically see them on a monitor. It's the same with ghosts and paranormal occurances-- all of which would theoretically be caused by energies. Life is an energy, so where does it go? It operates our brains, our conscience, and the rest of our guts-- it has to go somewhere. I mean, if you kill a mass group of people and they suddenly stop moving, where does their life energy go? You can think up of theories, but just because humans lack the comprehension to explain them, doesn't mean there isn't a scientific explanation.
In spiritual explanations, they claim that there are different planes as to where things belong and can be within, like a spiritual plane, the physical plane, and etc-- there are also other explanations mentioning planes whereas they're told apart by being on different
frequencies. And explaining things like psychic abilities, people have explained the brain to theoretically emit waves on certain frequencies as well. I don't really look into these things, and nothing can be considered accurate at this point-- but no matter what type of phenomenon, it has a scientific reason as to why. There are so many variables in the universe, I suspect a good trillions of handfuls of them cause our environment to have paranormal crap.
Again, I believe paranormal occurances and religions (Though, I prefer not to get into a religious debate.) are created to explain things we don't understand and cannot explain. Only theories exist because we don't have the conditions to make up a solid conclusion as to why things happen. To treat theory as if it is fact, no matter how logical, is just the same as believing in religion. Religion is technically a theory in this sense. They're all created to fill in the void of cluelessness to explain things we aren't sure of.
But just because it goes beyond our ability to explain them, doesn't mean a scientific reason as to why doesn't exist. That's like saying, "Well, I've never seen a jellyfish before. They must not exist!"
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 02, 2008, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: zoupzuop2 on May 02, 2008, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 01, 2008, 07:35:23 PM
Most encounters are often far-fetched; they're either hallucinations, coincidences, or a result of some sort of mental ailment. No matter the result, there's always a scientific explanation somehow-- just, it's more than likely that no one on Earth has the intellect to do so. :U
I dunno if I agree. How would we be aware that we can't know that, unless we've been MADE aware that we can't know that? If we were aware we can't know that, then SOMEONE or SOMETHING would have to be just that far above us to make that conjecture.
If you ask me, I think science only explains the physical facets of the world, which, for all we know, could be less than there really is to the Earth. Perhaps science (in most cases) is the HOW as the paranormal is the WHY? Much like the difference between a purpose and a reason, maybe the two are not contradictory; just explaining two different factors. I just don't think that the physical plane is the only plane in existance; saying so, at least for me, would be an assumption on which I have no proof.
While I'm all for learning about physics and chemistry (fascinating stuff, mostly physics, haha), I just don't think it can explain THE ENTIRE Universe; just the "Physical" properties.
I could interject my exact opinion/belief on ghosts and spirits and whatnot, but... that could spark something I quite frankly don't have the time or energy for.
But why is it that you have this fixed belief that science is limited to only physical things? Because physical things are the easiest to explain, because they're natural phenomenons. Anything that cannot be seen by the eye is considered an unnatural phenomenon, but it doesn't mean it cannot be determined scientifically. To say that is to knock off a HUUUUGE chunk of what science has already discovered to have an existance. How do you determine mental ailments? Back in the day, people considered it to be possession by The Devil.
What about wavelengths and frequencies? How were they supposedly discovered? Not all of them can be heard, mind you. Everything had to be determined somehow, and eventually put into a form where they can physically see them on a monitor. It's the same with ghosts and paranormal occurances-- all of which would theoretically be caused by energies. Life is an energy, so where does it go? It operates our brains, our conscience, and the rest of our guts-- it has to go somewhere. I mean, if you kill a mass group of people and they suddenly stop moving, where does their life energy go? You can think up of theories, but just because humans lack the comprehension to explain them, doesn't mean there isn't a scientific explanation.
In spiritual explanations, they claim that there are different planes as to where things belong and can be within, like a spiritual plane, the physical plane, and etc-- there are also other explanations mentioning planes whereas they're told apart by being on different frequencies. And explaining things like psychic abilities, people have explained the brain to theoretically emit waves on certain frequencies as well. I don't really look into these things, and nothing can be considered accurate at this point-- but no matter what type of phenomenon, it has a scientific reason as to why. There are so many variables in the universe, I suspect a good trillions of handfuls of them cause our environment to have paranormal crap.
Again, I believe paranormal occurances and religions (Though, I prefer not to get into a religious debate.) are created to explain things we don't understand and cannot explain. Only theories exist because we don't have the conditions to make up a solid conclusion as to why things happen. To treat theory as if it is fact, no matter how logical, is just the same as believing in religion. Religion is technically a theory in this sense. They're all created to fill in the void of cluelessness to explain things we aren't sure of.
But just because it goes beyond our ability to explain them, doesn't mean a scientific reason as to why doesn't exist. That's like saying, "Well, I've never seen a jellyfish before. They must not exist!"
Mm. I clearly misworded what I meant to say. I didn't mean to imply "physical" as in tangible or visible alone. Certainly things unseen by the eye would apply to science. And, believe me when I say that I agree that too much, in the past, has been accredited to "spiritual" answers-- mental illnesses to "possession", gravity to spirits, ad nauseum.
I'm just opining that maybe the universe is... at the risk of miswording myself further, MORE than science alone can explain. It may not be "spirits" or "souls" or whatever that composes what we may not be aware of, but maybe there's more than what current-- or even future-- science(s) can uncover.
I originally had more to my post that either explained my reasoning or dug me further into a ditch, but I fear that continuing, on my part, would plunge this thread further into a debate that Jun and I agree we don't want to enter into. So for now, I'll just copypasta my former post into notepad, say
LIEK ZOMG GOSTZ!!!and continue on.