Haha, wow I saw this and just had to read it.
http://men.msn.com/articlemh.aspx?cp-documentid=6804752&page=%20%20%20%20%20%201
I'll be honest I've done some of those things before.
Well you all enjoy
Time to paint a line where I want it!
1) Ask her how heavy she is.
2) Ask her when was the last time she smoked canned dope.
3) Ogle her finely-designed pants pockets.
4) Take her out to a insanely rich couples' place.
5) Take her out, as in K.O.
6) Drag in a dead cat.
7) Drag in a living mouse.
8) Talk to her about your future mother-in-law.
You sure have a sexy/hot/expensive/lovely dog/cat/mouse/dad/mom/sister/brother/cousin!
DRESS TO IMPRESS!
24/7, guuuurl, I'm out with my Eskimo t-shirt and D-dally dog J-tune jeans.
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Joking, of course. Interesting link there, OP.
dbl post. Sorry.
My boyfriend has never done any of those things in the article... phewwwww..... the thing i hate the most is when they ask How much it is... my ex did all those things... no wonder he is my ex...hahahhahaha
Honestly, if my boyfriend had done those things... I wouldn't care. The only things I'd actually mind are #5 and #7, whereas #7 is situational and I could understand if he's tired or not in the mood etc... It's all dependent on what the relationship is there for. If the chick is going to have the impression that they're going to be engaged and married for the rest of their lives, such things might be more inclined to bother her. Blah blah blah, here we go.
#1 You don't pick up after yourself at our place.
As long as you're not a slob to the extent that it gets in my way or creates foul odors, I don't really care. If it's something small, no problem of going out of my way to throw a can of soda into the recycling bin. He'd do the same for me.
#2 You ask how much our new haircut or handbag costs...
Depending on the situation, it could be annoying-- if you use it as something to point out and make us feel guilty for buying it, yes. It's very annoying. But thankfully, in most situations where I'd be asked, it'd be out of curiosity and not concern.
#3 You talk to us as if we're one of the guys.
I'm used to this and am okay with it. It means he treats me as an equal in terms of the way he talks to me. A lot of girls appreciate this. We girls already get tons of special treatment for other occasions as it is.
#4 You speak of the future vaguely.
Future is always a concern, but if it's too distant, it's not even worth talking about right now. I talk about my future with my boyfriends a lot, in terms of the relationship, but I can't blame it for being vague. Th future is vague, itself. Not much to say there, other than have a cute conversation on what we might HOPE the future to have.
#5 You stop trying.
THIS... is about the biggest thing in a relationship that would annoy me when it'd happen. For guys to stop trying, once they're comfortable with the relationship. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE this. It makes us feel valueless and not worth trying for, even for someone that supposedly loves us. It's not that I want to push them to go out of their way to do things all the time, but it doesn't mean they should stop doing everything altogether and not caring.
#6 You blatantly look at porn.
Whatever. If it's good porn, I'll watch with him. But porn doesn't seem to be necessary, these days.
#7 You turn down sex.
Depends. If he's too tired or not in the mood, it may be just timing. Doesn't mean he doesn't love me if we don't have sex, but it is disappointing for that one moment. As long as it doesn't keep happening over and over for weeks on end, it's forgivable.
#8 You ask us out via text.
Why not? Texting is quick, simple, and easy. It may not be as sweet and personal as a phone call, but who cares. Tons of people get intimate and connect well over instant messaging, which had been considered too impersonal way back when. Texting is no problemo.
I asked out a girl on aim once, true story.
Interesting article. Gotta send that to some of my friends, cause I know they have done some of those things before.
Article is kinda crappy...
Most of them are general tings you don't do... ever. The others are just kinda dependent on the girl.
I don't think the article is crappy or too general. I think most of the things in the article are true. Sometimes guys do those things but they do not know that it is annoying.
The thing I hate the most about guy is they stop trying. Once the girl becomes their girlfriends or wives, they just stop to impress the girls. I know this is not true to all guys but some guys do those things....
It is really rare for girls to stop trying after having a boyfriend. Sometimes I think girls try even harder after they have a boyfriend.
Since my boyfriend and I start dating, we always text. I think I was ok with this because I am not a good person to talk in a normal conversation; however, sometimes I still call him and he sounds really happy when he hear my voices.
If I have learned something from all my years of being around women is this, no two girls are the same. So yes this reasons depend on the girl who you are dating, but its a good start for people who dont know what they are doing ;D
I'm going to have to agree with Mikey here. Everything on this list is either very subjective, or something that works in reverse. Or both. Some girls like being talked to as "one of the guys". And some guys get annoyed at their girlfriend's lack of hygiene. And please, "stop trying" - that's a "duh" that both sides need to follow.
The one that cracks me up is "Don't turn down sex," though. I think most guys would (justifiably) respond to a demand like this with, "You first."
Quote from: mDuo13 on May 09, 2008, 02:22:54 PM
The one that cracks me up is "Don't turn down sex," though. I think most guys would (justifiably) respond to a demand like this with, "You first."
Hahahahaha.
As for it being subjective, it's just really cliche. There are cases where these are guidelines that GIRLS should also follow. And I don't think anyone actually leaves toenail clippings in and hair in their soap. Er... at least, I sure hope not.
This same article was in my men's health magazine like 2 months ago. *shrug*
Like mikey said, these are all fairly common sense things.
If is called common sense, how come so few have it?
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 08, 2008, 04:10:23 PM
#5 You stop trying.[/b]
THIS... is about the biggest thing in a relationship that would annoy me when it'd happen. For guys to stop trying, once they're comfortable with the relationship. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE this. It makes us feel valueless and not worth trying for, even for someone that supposedly loves us. It's not that I want to push them to go out of their way to do things all the time, but it doesn't mean they should stop doing everything altogether and not caring.
Amen, sister. |:
In defense to us guys, it is not always because we get comfortable that we stop trying. But rather for some of us we stop because we feel it is unappreciated. It isnt always our fault, at times you get to a point where you are expecting it, and it doesnt work that way. So appreciate the little tries we do and we will continue doing them :D
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 09, 2008, 03:12:53 PM
This same article was in my men's health magazine like 2 months ago. *shrug*
Like mikey said, these are all fairly common sense things.
Rofl. Men's health magazine. : P
Quote from: DemonLordZabuza on May 09, 2008, 04:02:27 PM
In defense to us guys, it is not always because we get comfortable that we stop trying. But rather for some of us we stop because we feel it is unappreciated. It isnt always our fault, at times you get to a point where you are expecting it, and it doesnt work that way. So appreciate the little tries we do and we will continue doing them :D
Untrue. Something like this can't possibly apply to every situation where someone fails to continue trying in the relationship. Tons of girls and guys alike going through that are willing to appreciate what their lover does for them-- a good portion of them just stop trying BECAUSE they're comfortable and feel that they don't need to do anything after getting their "catch" and losing the need to impress them.
Under appriecating someone's effort is a whole other problem.
X.x; None of that is really relevant other than maybe #3... >.>;
I admit it can be and on and off annoyance... >.>;
Its weird when you want to be treated that way but don't want to be treated that way. X.x;
Am I the only one that thought she was using the article to rant towards her "other"?
Quote from: Jun-Watarase on May 09, 2008, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 09, 2008, 03:12:53 PM
This same article was in my men's health magazine like 2 months ago. *shrug*
Like mikey said, these are all fairly common sense things.
Rofl. Men's health magazine. : P
Quote from: DemonLordZabuza on May 09, 2008, 04:02:27 PM
In defense to us guys, it is not always because we get comfortable that we stop trying. But rather for some of us we stop because we feel it is unappreciated. It isnt always our fault, at times you get to a point where you are expecting it, and it doesnt work that way. So appreciate the little tries we do and we will continue doing them :D
Untrue. Something like this can't possibly apply to every situation where someone fails to continue trying in the relationship. Tons of girls and guys alike going through that are willing to appreciate what their lover does for them-- a good portion of them just stop trying BECAUSE they're comfortable and feel that they don't need to do anything after getting their "catch" and losing the need to impress them.
Under appriecating someone's effort is a whole other problem.
haha no no no, dont get me wrong this isnt the reason why every guy stops trying in a relationship. I was just saying that some guys have stopped trying because of the under appreciation. Of course there are the guys who stop trying because they got comfortable, but thats not all of them
Oh BS guys should never stop trying =\ I appreciated my guy so much that even still he dosent try
so ronery ;_;
Quote from: DemonLordZabuza on May 09, 2008, 03:37:16 PM
If is called common sense, how come so few have it?
cuz common sense seems like a diminishing commodity in today's society.
Quote from: DemonLordZabuza on May 09, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
haha no no no, dont get me wrong this isnt the reason why every guy stops trying in a relationship. I was just saying that some guys have stopped trying because of the under appreciation. Of course there are the guys who stop trying because they got comfortable, but thats not all of them
Still, underappreciaton is another problem, in and out of relationships. It happens most of the time, but it's only truly a problem when the person does nothing to acknowledge and improve on it. A lot of guys tend to stop when they're comfortable, though. People are brought up with their gender roles somewhat defined in society (until their old enough to make the decision not to) so girls and guys tend to think different in terms of this-- but either way, it sucks when anyone in the relationship actually stops trying.
Trying for someone and feeling the desire to go out of their way to do something for someone they care for makes others feel that they have value to the person, that they're worth going through trouble to help. I don't mean waiting on someone hand and foot, but just doing a nice gesture once in a while to remind them that they care.
yeah, that article is kinda like, urfdurfhurfhurf
#5 esp. bugs me...
"If he wants to come on to me, he needs to ditch his gross dress socks and gym clothes and make an effort. Otherwise he ain't getting any. Also, there is less foreplay and it's more routine, which I hate. After 7 years, a man's got to bust some new moves."
like wtf she makes it sound the like the guy has to do all the work to get sex and the girl gives it out when she feels like he's done enough to earn it. that is retarded.
granted i've never been in a relationship 7 years long, but keeping the spark alive is the girl's responsibility too. expecting the man to initiate everything makes girls look plain stupid.
and a lot of those complaints look like things that can be solved if the girl just tells her boyfriend/husband what's pissing her off. that's what i don't get about some girls either, they expect guys to just know what's going on in their heads.
and i don't care if my boyfriend looks at porn wtf. i look at it too. and finding his porn is funny. it's like a treasure hunt. :D
Quote from: cappeh on May 10, 2008, 01:22:12 AM
yeah, that article is kinda like, urfdurfhurfhurf
#5 esp. bugs me...
"If he wants to come on to me, he needs to ditch his gross dress socks and gym clothes and make an effort. Otherwise he ain't getting any. Also, there is less foreplay and it's more routine, which I hate. After 7 years, a man's got to bust some new moves."
like wtf she makes it sound the like the guy has to do all the work to get sex and the girl gives it out when she feels like he's done enough to earn it. that is retarded.
granted i've never been in a relationship 7 years long, but keeping the spark alive is the girl's responsibility too. expecting the man to initiate everything makes girls look plain stupid.
and a lot of those complaints look like things that can be solved if the girl just tells her boyfriend/husband what's pissing her off. that's what i don't get about some girls either, they expect guys to just know what's going on in their heads.
and i don't care if my boyfriend looks at porn wtf. i look at it too. and finding his porn is funny. it's like a treasure hunt. :D
Wow a girl who understands that guys aren't mind readers. Holy crap Batman! Your a rare breed of female.
I had a discussion at lunch today with a large group of females, and it was mind boggling the responses were like "Their suppose to know" "It should be known" "He should have picked it up" etc. etc. I love them to death, but that stuff just makes me wanna go get some telepathic powers. I think that would be the simplest solution.
You actually won't find porn in my computers/bedroom/etc. ^_^
I feel a lot of angst in this thread.
Quote from: Steve.Young on May 10, 2008, 02:17:21 AM
Quote from: cappeh on May 10, 2008, 01:22:12 AM
yeah, that article is kinda like, urfdurfhurfhurf
#5 esp. bugs me...
"If he wants to come on to me, he needs to ditch his gross dress socks and gym clothes and make an effort. Otherwise he ain't getting any. Also, there is less foreplay and it's more routine, which I hate. After 7 years, a man's got to bust some new moves."
like wtf she makes it sound the like the guy has to do all the work to get sex and the girl gives it out when she feels like he's done enough to earn it. that is retarded.
granted i've never been in a relationship 7 years long, but keeping the spark alive is the girl's responsibility too. expecting the man to initiate everything makes girls look plain stupid.
and a lot of those complaints look like things that can be solved if the girl just tells her boyfriend/husband what's pissing her off. that's what i don't get about some girls either, they expect guys to just know what's going on in their heads.
and i don't care if my boyfriend looks at porn wtf. i look at it too. and finding his porn is funny. it's like a treasure hunt. :D
You actually won't find porn in my computers/bedroom/etc. ^_^
You keep it in a safe? :o
No, I honestly don't have any =p.
well the girls you hang out with are silly D:
like really, sometimes i have no freakin idea why my boyfriend seems all down or whatever, so it's kinda dumb to expect anything different from him yknow.
and tell us where you keep your porn. i'll tell you where i keep mine
it's very secretly super hidden in a folder labeled NWS lololol
but then again i don't really save porn to fap to it, it's there to show other people in the first place!
and ho ho holy crap i had no idea until just now that you can make that huge bar at the top of the forums disappear 8UUU
that reminds me!
a while ago when i was playing maplestory, we were talking about fapping. there was a girl in the convo with us and she asked what do girls do? since girls can't fap.
we asked the entire server through public messages and we got girls "flap flap flap"
:P
As for the whole "mind reading" thing, I don't think that's a gender issue. Sometimes the things they 'should know' are common sense sort of things, but I don't think anyone likes it when what they refer to is some sort of unknown obligation we were supposed to already know, then have someone get upset over it. When you're not okay with something, either let it go if it's not a big deal, or say something when the timing seems right. After that, it's the listening part. I think all of this just falls under communication-- which is very VERY very very important.
I know there are some cases where it feels needed to avoid direct contact about it and give hints instead. If they're too subtle, then it'd be too easy to miss and would be stupid to get upset over. Say a girl gets upset at her boy not putting his cups on coasters, and the next time she hands him the cup, she puts it on a coaster as a hint. No one would notice that. It'd be her fault if she gets upset at him setting the cup back down on the table. Say that the guy wants to spend time with her girlfriend, but she's too busy playing games and reading her BL doujinshi shit. Hints like asking her if she's free, saying things like, "Hey. We haven't gone out in a while" and whatnot would probably be as affective as it gets with hints.
But no one is a mind reader. There are some things to be EXPECTED that you're going to do when you get into a healthy relationship-- communication, interaction in general, going out on dates, doing things together, splitting duties, having sex, being loyal, TRYING, and etc. but as for timing and what's specifically bothering you, it's no one's obligation to know exactly what and when to cater to your own needs.
And I agree that whoever wrote that article was pretty butthurt over how she was treated by her boyfriends. I know how it feels to go through some retarded relationships, but all that article is after the segment titles are whiny whining. Oh, and if women suddenly were granted telepathy? A good portion would kill themselves, while the other would kill others.
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 02:43:49 AM
that reminds me!
a while ago when i was playing maplestory, we were talking about fapping. there was a girl in the convo with us and she asked what do girls do? since girls can't fap.
we asked the entire server through public messages and we got girls "flap flap flap"
:P
Interesting.. however I do say that maplestory fails, none the less interesting convo lol
Quote from: JTchinoy on May 10, 2008, 02:43:49 AM
that reminds me!
a while ago when i was playing maplestory, we were talking about fapping. there was a girl in the convo with us and she asked what do girls do? since girls can't fap.
we asked the entire server through public messages and we got girls "flap flap flap"
:P
I've always been partial to "schlick", personally. Flap sounds weird.
And that article is asinine. It's insulting to men and women. Not all of us expect insane levels of "effort" or whatever.
ewwwww @ flapflapflap XFD
that sounds like something that'd come from a humongous vagina
lol some of those rules don't apply to me
Like the whole how much doed it cost thing *haha* i'm cheap I love saving money, but the one that makes me laugh is the one about the porn... lol hell I'd look with the guy but i guess it just makes me weird... (or boyish?)
I usually keep hentai and doujinshi on my other computer it's too easy to find it on my laptop so i don't keep any on it.
Heh I think there's a lot of girls these rules don't work for But the one rule i would have to throw in is
Don't be a coward
It bothers me when i see someone running away from their problems instead of facing them and resolving the issue. I think i can handle most other things but It annoys me the most if the guy i'm with can't handle problems
Quote from: cappeh on May 10, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
ewwwww @ flapflapflap XFD
that sounds like something that'd come from a humongous vagina
some girls are just huge down there. :o
like a pair of wings.
dude you just gave me the worst mspaint inspiration ever
SERIOUSLY DO NOT LOOK AT THIS REALLY I MEAN IT NWS NWS NWS
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm9/imthekaki/wat.png
Oh my god, that is the most awesome thing ever.
FLAPFLAPFLAP
Quote from: cappeh on May 11, 2008, 03:01:35 AM
dude you just gave me the worst mspaint inspiration ever
SERIOUSLY DO NOT LOOK AT THIS REALLY I MEAN IT NWS NWS NWS
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm9/imthekaki/wat.png
Hahahahahaha. That's... disturbingly cute.
*Bangs head against table*
Ceiling Cat is watching you... Flap?
Anyway, I'll respond with the Tenets of Leykis (http://www.tenetsofleykis.com/)