*whistle* The things you find trollin' some boards well past the time ya should be in bed. Was a bit curious about some of this myslef this year, fortunately it wasn't a problem for no one that I can tell. Hell most people were filming with whatever they had, and a few dozen people up front, press guys I think, had some tripods set up in the masquerade, and there's footage on youtube...so all is good as far as that goes.
Somethin' to really note though; not really somethin' I'm thinkin' needs addressed. Let me quote and comment.
Not really seen anything or anyone complain at all this year during the masquerade, which is the event I think yer referrin' to, in refernce to camcorders and such. Same with the tripods. I'd like to point out the title of this girl.
And from this girl...
I'd like to point out again, didn't see anyone of any prominince, comin' down on anyone like a ton o' bricks in reference to people filimin'. If there was gonna be that; I'd have expected a big o' warning on the main Fanime FAQ or somethin'. Also, title:
Then we got this little number...
Now I'm startin' to repeat myself, so I'll just post the title...
And this is from the convention chair folks. Next up...
from this guy...
So far we got the convention chair and the big press guy saying it'd be cool to have tons a video and pictures (Best damn con is right). Then we get to this little baby which is gonna need some further commentary...
I would call that somewhat...oh...word...word...disengenuous maybe? Basically we all know how screwed up some unions can get, so saying its not our place when we're the only ones that can do so (as there's no one else who can do it for us) when there's a legit issue is not being all that good for anyone involved. On the other hand, sayin' we shouldn't be doin' it here makes more sense; causin' issues with Fanime that may need to be handled differently and all.
And tha'ts fine too. Looks like the orginal question was tryin' to stave off the whole warnin' thing so he didn't have to be dissapointed about what he was plannin' on when he got there. I'm pretty sure we all know things can change, but lookin' for answers before hand should be legit too.
Hey, wasn't that what was goin' on here? :D People asked some questions and people got their answers. Looks like a workin' system overall. Oh, and this guy's title...
Then we come to our final offerin'...
whose title is...
Eric here had a quote before, but this one says about the same thing, so I didn't include that one.
Now, I don't mean to start something, but it really looks like you guys, given what you're individually sayin' and what actually happened, have a HUGE disconnect in yer comms between people and departments. Nothin' major since it didn't really impact the people at the masquerade or in the con any, but it's been my experience when you see somethin' like this, there may be some tickin' time bombs waitin' later. You guys may want to look into this, see where the breakdown is before someone not in the know starts something with a fan or another staff member in the know and it takes time at best to straighten and who knows what for worst case.
Other than that...helluva con guys, lookin' forward to anther.
Somethin' to really note though; not really somethin' I'm thinkin' needs addressed. Let me quote and comment.
QuoteUsually, for the Cosplay Spectacular, Marisa doesn't have any objections but the Union does. We normally bow to the Union because they WILL impose really big fees that will impact who we get (GoHs) the following year. Union will not allow anything that looks like a camcorder (since that implies broadcasting). Cameras are okay because we allow pictures. But if you have a camcorder and filming, Union will tell us about it and then fine us. Which would lead us to be stricter on the policy and that will affect press.
Not really seen anything or anyone complain at all this year during the masquerade, which is the event I think yer referrin' to, in refernce to camcorders and such. Same with the tripods. I'd like to point out the title of this girl.
QuoteDirector of Extravaganzas
Fanime 2008 - 2010
And from this girl...
QuoteThis shouldn't be a debate. Regardless of what our members want to do, we don't allow video in the Civic because it is union rule. As of right now, the only way we would be able to allow video release is to pay for it (and we're not talking about some small amount) and we have heard almost every suggestion/argument such as "FanimeCon should sell DVDs!" to "Just pay it!" and in the end, it's better that we focus our time and money on bringing better guests and making the FanimeCon experience better. I would not want to see any event lower their programming standard just to grant our members access to shooting videos of said programming.
I'd like to point out again, didn't see anyone of any prominince, comin' down on anyone like a ton o' bricks in reference to people filimin'. If there was gonna be that; I'd have expected a big o' warning on the main Fanime FAQ or somethin'. Also, title:
QuoteFanimeCon 2008-2010 Marketing Director
(Former Fan Services Director, Registration Staff, & Volunteer)
http://www.blameebner.com
Have questions (about almost anything)? I'm a PM away.
"FanimeCon" not "Fanime" Tongue
Then we got this little number...
QuoteThe facilities and union may have more stringent rules, which they are imposing. Generally we ask that no video recording take place in the Civic across the street - for example, during the Masquerade - because of their rules.
FanimeCon generally likes the exposure - I would personally LOVE if thousands of photos and hours of video came out, showing everyone how fun FanimeCon is, and getting people excited for next year. Grin
Trust me, it's not really us. Undecided
Now I'm startin' to repeat myself, so I'll just post the title...
QuoteConvention Chair, 2009-2010
Tyrannical Board Admin
FanimeCon webmaster, 2003-2007
Head of MusicFest, which has the best damn staff out there, 2005-2008
And this is from the convention chair folks. Next up...
QuoteIt's a mutual feeling on my end as well Tony =)
from this guy...
QuoteFanimeCon Press, 2007-2010 (The best damn con there is!)
FanimeCon Registration Staff, 2007
Fanime Forums Moderator
Anime Boston Press, 2010
Anime Expo Press, 2008-2010
Anime Central Press, 2008
So far we got the convention chair and the big press guy saying it'd be cool to have tons a video and pictures (Best damn con is right). Then we get to this little baby which is gonna need some further commentary...
QuotePlease do not consider the union rules "evil." The rules are set for a reason and although some may not agree, it is not our place to bash or bad talk them.
I would call that somewhat...oh...word...word...disengenuous maybe? Basically we all know how screwed up some unions can get, so saying its not our place when we're the only ones that can do so (as there's no one else who can do it for us) when there's a legit issue is not being all that good for anyone involved. On the other hand, sayin' we shouldn't be doin' it here makes more sense; causin' issues with Fanime that may need to be handled differently and all.
QuoteEvents where photography/videography are not allowed will be marked on the schedule and (most likely) announced, but I can definitely say that you will at least receive a warning before anyone takes your camera and/or kicks your out of the convention.
And tha'ts fine too. Looks like the orginal question was tryin' to stave off the whole warnin' thing so he didn't have to be dissapointed about what he was plannin' on when he got there. I'm pretty sure we all know things can change, but lookin' for answers before hand should be legit too.
QuoteCan I just ask for you and whoever else reads this, to just ask staff about rumors (feel COMPLETELY FREE to PM me if you want to keep it private) and get them verified? I have squashed many ridiculous rumors in the past, but they will keep coming up as long as people feel that staff has some crazy evil agenda to take over the world. Too many anime or something, I think.
Hey, wasn't that what was goin' on here? :D People asked some questions and people got their answers. Looks like a workin' system overall. Oh, and this guy's title...
QuoteFanimeCon 2008-2010 Marketing Director
(Former Fan Services Director, Registration Staff, & Volunteer)
http://www.blameebner.com
Have questions (about almost anything)? I'm a PM away.
"FanimeCon" not "Fanime" Tongue
Then we come to our final offerin'...
QuoteCurrently the only places that video and photo are not allowed are the two musicfest concerts. However, be prepared to either put away your cameras or return them to your car or room at the request of staff.
But basically, except the two concerts, the default is that photo and video are permissible.
oh, video rooms are kinda obvious too.
whose title is...
QuoteEric Wu
Assistant Director, Fanime Fan Services 2011
Fanime Forums Moderator
ericATfanimeDOTcom
Eric here had a quote before, but this one says about the same thing, so I didn't include that one.
Now, I don't mean to start something, but it really looks like you guys, given what you're individually sayin' and what actually happened, have a HUGE disconnect in yer comms between people and departments. Nothin' major since it didn't really impact the people at the masquerade or in the con any, but it's been my experience when you see somethin' like this, there may be some tickin' time bombs waitin' later. You guys may want to look into this, see where the breakdown is before someone not in the know starts something with a fan or another staff member in the know and it takes time at best to straighten and who knows what for worst case.
Other than that...helluva con guys, lookin' forward to anther.