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aww, what the fail?

:[ I am currently a sad panda.

Well, maybe things will change in a few years after America becomes more desensitized :3 Yay for GTAIV

So, aside from the hardware and such...(Though I really don't mind it).

Lets get back on topic; Is there going to be a CoD4 tourney for sure? I haven't heard anything from Chinoy in awhile.

I don't know about how long the CoD4 tourny should actually be, i suggest it be all in one day to prevent any sort of non-roster member swapping or something along those lines.

Could get a bunch of network hubs and stuff but you have to consider the cost and time to lay it all out and troubleshoot PCs with certain setups, etc (Especially people who have that one cable service where you have to config through IE? Wth?).

Wireless could work but imagine all the interference. Plus we aren't sure if the room is actually a leadbox quite yet (Although it is doubtful...i mean it IS a convention center).

Like I said before, I love my PC and I done everything I can to tweak it and overclock it but i won't lug it over and wait for people who are troubleshooting or even worse...have myself troubleshooting.

Luckily TVs can fit 4 people and hey, im willing to share that TV with others. It's part of being a console gamer; you gotta share.

But all in all, it's really up to JTChinoy as I can probably guess that it'll consume a whole lot of time and money.

JTChinoy,
I was just wondering if you still needed help with the CoD4 rules and such, as I can provide help for you along with advice.
If you need me, just send me a message and ill get back to you ASAP.

Don't want you to take the burden alone.

Iunno, if there's some way to get enough PC's that'd be great i'm even willing to bring my own computer. Since we're doing teams doesnt it seem logical to have people be paired with who ever they want on site? Like depending on how many people show and how many computers or w/e we're using you can determine the  how big the teams can be. I still prefer PC over console any day, as its a lot more fair. Like i said before there are rules mods in place to prevent nub tubes, martydom, etc.

Hey, I'd prefer PC over console too but you have to consider the cost and like JTchinoy said....there is no available network for PCs.
If you flip over to the first/second pages of the thread, we go over why console would probably be the best choice.

Hey, I love PCs as much as you (Invested 2000 in it + I work at Nvidia!) but I don't think it's possible.

For the most part, RPGs are used to take down choppers when they come flying by. Otherwise, I've seen them only as just a "kicks and giggles" weapon. It's actually kind of inaccurate, so I don't use it for any other reason than to take out 'dem whirlybirds.

If you went toe-to-toe against some guy with say, an AK47, while you had an RPG...chances are you're going down. That little start-up you need to shoulder the RPG and THEN fire is more than enough time for the AK to take you out; even less if that person had Stopping Power or Double Tap which is pretty damn likely. Let alone, you need to come into pretty close contact with the enemy to do any real damage, otherwise he'll stay alive long enough to spray you out.

I will construct the ultimate RPG build with Sleight of Hand and Steady Aim. LOL! I will be ph33red from all.

Seriously, an RPG wielding guy is such the easy target. I don't see why anyone would be annoyed from it along with bunny hopping(Not really helpful in CoD4 but sure) and dolphin diving. The only real annoyances if you played CoD4 long enough, is the Juggernaut perk, Martyrdom, and the infamous noob tube. I personally dislike auto snippies but that's fine with me since the accuracy is decreased compared to the bolt action cousins.

Really though, the modes acceptable are S&D/TDM, no noob tubes, plain and simple.

It figures some halo kid would defend it.

Elaborate on whom we are talking about, Chewie?
It's best to not start any kind of flaming war here. We're still here to construct rules for the tourney.

Exactly, if everyone can bunny hop, than theres no reason anyone to complain about it, however useing RPGs is pretty cheap no matter where you go.

Lol, RPGs are funny. Sometimes they hit but really...just like in real life, it's pretty unreliable with it's random direction half the time. It's a rocket propelled grenade lol. Lots of swirling :D

Nah, RPGs are fine though. If it was cheap, people would use it a lot more than noob tubes.

Well in the First game I ever played in CoD4 I went 30 and 3.
I never played with people I know because we all find it WAY to easy to win, which becomes boring.
I do have to note that I DO come from the Hardcore ideals of the Halo Community and that we ARE perfectionist
so when I so into a game that takes only a headshot to kill someone, I consider it easy
Not to Offend CoD4 Fans

Oh and I define Good as a combination of skill and teamwork

Depends on whom you are playing in CoD4, just like Halo. You could've been playing against low rank new players with a mix of people prestige 1 or so who just have their bad day while you had a good run.

I used to be a halo fanatic until I realized it was all too easy with BR and sniper rifles (Just like you and CoD4). I just value CoD4 since it's a lot more realistic (though bullet arcs would make this complete) where you get shot a few times, you are gone. It makes playing for your life a lot more interesting especially when it comes to search and destroy (some of the best players and clans only play this mode).

I am not trying to start any flaming here...I trust we are all grown up and all to stay mature and keep this civilized. I am just indicating the difference between how people choose between games of the same genre.

I don't see how this "bunny hoping" is cheap.
Its a perfectly legit thing to do and any smart player will do the same.

As with the bunny hopping...I agree with him. I also don't see anything wrong with it...you lose time and stamina as you hop around making you a slower and easier target as your aim drastically changes while you jump. Why shouldn't you be entitled to a kill that makes it easier for you to kill them? If you can't hit them while they jump around, that's funny stuff. Plus...some people do that to get the challenge for the air time kill (or for hilarity).

I think it's hilarious when I jump out from a corner with a pump shotty and kill the guy while he screams "OMFG GO BACK TO HALO YOU ****in newb!"

Still would've killed him anyhow. I just got the challenge for it. easy points.

JTchinoy, if you need help about the tourny/freeplay, i'll be happy to help you out.

Player style will be determined later.
I appreciate everyones input as I'm not a hardcore FPS player. :)
After I determine how many systems we'll be having, which determines if we will FFA or have team, I'll start collecting rules.
Hopefully after next Sunday (3/09, the next staff meeting) I'll have the information on how many systems and if it'll be FFA or team.

Okay, cool!
Hey man, I'm not sure if anyone said this but...

Thank you for hosting the tourney and going through the trouble of doing this for us. It is highly appreciated, i'm sure, among the rest of us.

Remember! one tv can fit 4 players :]

Headquarters doesn't seem too bad too, but then again...it'll drag out the game time (unless we limit it! thank god for private matches).

I can honestly say though...now that I think about it, people who sprint and prone only do it in Bog to avoid the spawn snipers in the first 5 seconds of the game (annoys me to get killed in S&D right when i run out)...other than that...everyone just does it to save their life. (Honestly, I don't know how we can regulate dolphin diving if it occurs in like 3 seconds. Unlike the noob tube and its announced killing, it's hard to see when someone does it on purpose or what.)

But I agree with Heero. No noob tubes, S&D and it'll be gravy.

usually on gamebattles, the standard set of rules is no grenade launchers (Noob tube) and mostly set around search and destroy. That way it promotes the ability to kill AND stay alive. TDM doesn't really make you fight for your life as much.

As with dolphin diving, I really only hear about it in BF series (I play bf2142) and it happens. COD4, I never really seen anyone dolphin dive and be able to kill me (only with BF and the knifing).

The standard default classes...I know, rather limited but then again as someone said before...it does promote player skill (As much as I hate iron sights...)

I just absolutely hate martyrdom and juggernaut. (word has it the next patch will replace them with something new! yay!)

Random draw doesn't sound bad but you have to consider people who have pre-selected groups and how they play their roles. Ex: Rifleman, Sniper, etc. etc.

Really, who wants a team full of snipers who don't communicate properly? (Mainly because they don't know each other).

Could have a team of 4v4 that way one TV is split into one whole team facing another...it'll even help resolve LAN hacking where the enemy is looking at the same TV as you (which eliminates the element of surprise along with the ghillie suit...).

So my idea would be like....
A nice sized regular TV, say 26"+
XBOX360's with 4 controllers each.
Teams of 4v4 (Classic Rifleman, Sniper, Support, and CQB combos).

It'd be nice, cheap, and efficient with dealing with lag and screen hacking!
Anyone else agree?  ;D

You would have to AT LEAST have PCs and 360/ps3 for this to be a valid tourney or you are excluding a lot of people in either bracket. There are a lot of PC users (myself included) who think playing fps' on a console is a joke. And I would imagine the same amount of console users saying the same thing about PC.

For consoles there would have to be multiple tvs/consoles.

For PC they'd have to be back to back or on the other side of separators.

Team sizes depending on the platform.

If it was put together teams would HAVE to be established long before fanime. Regardless of being friends or not, a team or not people would have to register as 'lone gunmen' or as teams so brackets could be worked out and the loners could be put on a team to either practice with or so they weren't alone. Details to be worked out by whoever is running it.

There are also a lot of rules that have to be used/enforced. Like do you allow grenade launchers, perks, uav, choppers, airstrikes. Which mode to use. HC or normal?

Not to mention all the hardware needed. If you choose pc, do you allow people to bring their own? Do you contact a local cyber arcade and see if they want to host it? What about with 360/ps3? Do you ask that someone bring in their personal systems and allow a bunch of strangers to man handle their equipment with likely no reimbursement for it?

If you're going to do it, great. But get together with others and try to hammer out the logistics of it quickly or your going to have 7 guys wanting to kill each other on 3 different platforms and nowhere to do it.

Hey Chewie, I'm a PC user myself and been playing FPS since I can't remember how long ago (Doom, Castlevania, Duke Nukem, Shadow Warrior<- LOL) and I understand where you are coming from but with PC's it leaves too much room for error, you know what I mean? Someone can have a really great PC whereas someone else's uses their own not-so-great PC and it kinda leaves room for a disadvantage. Don't get me wrong though, it's a good idea but there is too much of a disadvantage. Not to mention the space it'll use (even though the room is probably huge).

Well, again, this is just an idea I am proposing this in hopes that someone would be kind enough to take upon the burden of running a tourny. Maybe if we hammered it all out, someone would help organize one. I'm willing to bring my consoles over (along with my PC if need be).

Regarding the rule sets, I think(my own opinion) everything should be allowed, people should be able to make full use of what Call of Duty 4 has to offer. If they play good and manage to get airstrikes, good for them, the other team will just have to adapt and stay indoors and away from windows. As for mode, I think a normal team deathmatch would be nice; it's quick, sweet, and to the point. There can also be a Free For All deathmatch for people who are by themselves and decide to enter. It'll leave 1v1s and 4v4s. There could even be a 2v2 but i doubt the teams would want to share the same TV. Because of this, the consoles would probably have the greater favor in proposal compared to PCs whereas connection problems, graphical lag, and technical issues can kick in (not to mention there are probably hacks by now...)

Again, this is just an idea, a friendly proposal to anyone who is ,godwilling, nice enough to take the suggestion of a COD4 tourny.

Random draw doesn't sound bad but you have to consider people who have pre-selected groups and how they play their roles. Ex: Rifleman, Sniper, etc. etc.

Really, who wants a team full of snipers who don't communicate properly? (Mainly because they don't know each other).

Could have a team of 4v4 that way one TV is split into one whole team facing another...it'll even help resolve LAN hacking where the enemy is looking at the same TV as you (which eliminates the element of surprise along with the ghillie suit...).

So my idea would be like....
A nice sized regular TV, say 26"+
XBOX360's with 4 controllers each.
Teams of 4v4 (Classic Rifleman, Sniper, Support, and CQB combos).

It'd be nice, cheap, and efficient with dealing with lag and screen hacking!
Anyone else agree?  ;D

A CoD4 tourney would be awesome, I actually know quite a few people who do play CoD4.

Consoles consisting of : PC(Grand daddy platform for FPS), XBOX360 and PS3. Technically its on the DS but I don't know how that'd work, lol. Not for the wii.

CoD4 runs pretty well on PC since they optimized the engine and really, it works fine on a mediocre PC...
XBOX wouldn't be a bad choice either, cheaper than a PS3 plus, you really don't NEED an HDTV for it to look nice. Plus, no one will really have to argue about lag issues :p
PS3 isn't a bad choice either but you have to consider the cost for it as well as PC's and XBOX360's rep for FPS.