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#1
Roommates Wanted: :)

+ Introduction: Hello, my name is Neal. I'm 28 years old and this will be my fifth year going to the convention. Looking for more people to room with to reduce cost. Already have 5 other roomates, all in their late 20's except for one who is in his early 20's.
+ Hotel Information: We have a room at the Hotel De Anza from Friday till Monday.
+ Costs: Guaranteed $80 or less depending on how many people room.
+ Requirements: Obvious things in general: good hygiene, just be respectful to each other's space and stuff. No age restrictions. No gender restrictions. We're relaxed, easy going, and respectful.
+ Contact: You can contact me via Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/iiecabasada or send me an email at [email protected].
+ Miscellaneous: The room already has 6 people and there may be more. This is for someone looking for a place to stay for cheap at Fanime for the whole weekend, and is comfortable rooming with a lot of people.
#2
Panels and Workshops / Re: Proposed Panel Topics
March 03, 2008, 02:03:51 AM
Okay, we're definitely getting on the wrong foot here. Let's start over. I'm definitely not trying to argue here, let's not make this an argument, that's not what these forums are for. We can go back and forth forever and make no progress.

We are a group of people that enjoy anime and enjoy running panels. We've hosted successful panels before and we'd like to host some at Fanime. We have done these topics as panels before and they've worked, but since you guys don't think they will, we would be happy to adjust them to your liking. If given the opportunity to host a panel, we are more than willing to work with your likings, we are reasonable people, it's not that serious, we just want to have fun and share our passion for anime and games with others.

Can we talk directly to someone that works as a panel coordinator at Fanime, instead of a highly opinionated and dismissive individual? We would like to make some progress here and work something out rather than go back and forth dismissing each other. 

Quoteokay, where was i being rude? did i call you names, or completely throw your idea out the window(which has happened already)? i did no such thing; i was stating the obvious, that mikeys explanation was a good explanation. dont start talking that crap when i didnt say a damn thing about you.
I was referring to mikey, not you
#3
Panels and Workshops / Re: Proposed Panel Topics
March 02, 2008, 09:32:44 PM
QuoteYou answered your own question. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
you've got to be more specific here, heh. are you sayong that it's because the same one happen last year and that's redundant or what?

QuoteYou are going to an anime convention with a large name, that you have absolutely no part of running. And you are then going to run a panel stating "This is how you need to run a convention if you want it to be successful". Think about that. You... are going to someone elses convention... and stating "this is how you run a convention if you want it to be successful". Did you think about it?
ok then, would it be better if the panel was called how "fanime" has become a successful anime con? it doesn't matter the specific con we're justy trying to share info on how to start a succesful anime event in a area with a small or no anime presence, that's it. no malicious intent here.

Quote1.the console panel you're referring to was more like a gameshow/panel, not a complete debate.
we can make it into a gameshow/panel if that would make it better, that's cool. When my friends were there however they thought it was a debate, that's how it felt anyway.

Quotemikeys explanation was a good one; one can also mention that every single game that has been made so far(save for some exceptions) has a health system that increases, as well as magic and weapon upgrades. Ninja Gaiden has a health and weapon/magic system(more like bars and upgrades) that increases, but does that classify it as an RPG? no, it does not, because the health bar and weapons/magic are the only things that change: Ryu does not get stronger, he doesn't have resistance increases, or luck, defense, or any other type of stat increases.
i could go on playing devil's advicate here but, don't you see that the fact that this discussion is developing makes it a good topic for a panel. all that is missing is a direction. there are people who strongly believe zelda is an rpg, we're not trying to argue, we'll just be stating the facts.

Quotemikeys explanation was a good one
good point or not there is no real reason in being rude and insultive, we're just trying to get some clearification here, not whinning




#4
Panels and Workshops / Re: Proposed Panel Topics
March 02, 2008, 04:58:45 PM
And yet, it is still not explained to us why a topic very similar to the "Best Console" was actually allowed as a Panel last year and was very interesting and successful. Many of my friends went to this panel during Fanime 2007 and had a good time, and none of them thought it was "stupid", and they noticed that this panel was one of the more popular ones that they went to. So, if that's something that can be explained to me I'd appreciate it.

I'll try to explain our "How to run a successful anime con" more clearly. We would not be telling "Fanime" how to run a successful con, we would instead be directing our topic toward people who are interested in starting up their own con and don't know how. We're not trying to tell people how to throw a "more successful than Fanime con", there's no competition here. Anime fans are a community, we don't see it as cons competing against each other for success, but rather working together to further anime fandom. This panel is more for people who have to travel far distances to go to a con or do not have any local anime community based locations of their own.

And your Zelda explanation is a very limited one that does not consider a lot of aspects. If you're talking about "statistical growth" one can mention that all Zelda games do have that, since they all have a health system that increases, as well as a magic system that increases, as well as an item collection system. Those are all examples of statistical growth systems that all Zelda games share. Your explanation is incomplete. What our panel would be about is determining a very definitive explanation of an RPG using Zelda as an example.

There is a difference between an argument and a debate. An argument happens when tempers fly and opinions are thrown left and right. A debate is an organized exchange of opinions based off factual information, with each side getting an equal amount of say. This is how our DBZ panel would be. It really comes down to how well the panelists coordinate a panel as too whether or not it breaks down to an argument or not. Since we already have experience in coordinating this panel, it'll be organized. We'll way in the opinions and facts about this series, it can be informative as well as opinionated.

You really shouldn't use words like "stupid" to make a point because it's not very descriptive and kind of obscures the whole validity of your point.
#5
Panels and Workshops / Proposed Panel Topics
March 02, 2008, 03:24:05 AM
Hi, my friend (Batman77) and I have signed up to these forums to suggest some topics we'd feel would make great panels. We sent in ideas via the online forms and were turned down. We understand why some of our ideas were turned down but we're still a bit confused on why some other topics were.

We suggested a gaming panel, "Best Console" which was basically a panel on the 3 gaming consoles that are out today (PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii), looking at the pros and cons of each system and determining which one was best. We were told that this topic was too vague and argumentative. However, it's a bit confusing since my friend (Batman77) went to last year's Fanime Con and there was a panel that was very similar to this. Instead of Consoles they had a versus of Nintendo and Sega against Sony and Microsoft. I would think that this panel is more vague and argumentative then ours because instead of focusing on a specific console you're instead considering an entire company's history, 25 years of gaming history. Also, it doesn't make much sense to clump Sony and Microsoft together since they are competing against each other in the industry. Also, it's strange to include Sega, since the company is not on the same level as the other 3, it's a third party and has no home console in the market anymore. We're just a bit confused on how our topic was rejected even though a very similar topic that is more vague was allowed last year, so if  anyone can elaborate that would help a lot.

Another topic we had was "How to coordinate a successful anime con." We were told that this topic was childish. We don't feel it's childish at all. It is very challenging to develop a successful convention and there are a lot of details and steps toward achieving such a goal. We are actually coordinators of our own successful anime con that is on it's 2nd year, called Kin-Yoobi Con. Our website is www.gzronline.com if you want to check it out. We think that this would make a good topic that can be very informative, interesting, and specific, since there is so much involved in accomplishing a successful con.

Another topic we had which was called childish was, "Is Zelda an RPG". This is actually a classic debate that has existed in the gaming community for quite some time. Many people clump Zelda into the RPG genre but in actuality it is not. What makes this topic not childish is that we would have to really get in depth and examine what truly defines an RPG, in the video game context. There is actually a lot to talk about here. How games like Zelda differ from games like Kingdom Hearts, some people feel they are the same, but really they are very different. This topic would make a good panel because it forces participants to understand and consider the definitions and meanings of categories and genres in video games.

The last topic which was called childish that we didn't understand why was "What is your favorite Saga in Dragonball Z." Dragonball Z is a classic anime which people are very familar with. One thing about DBZ is that the series is long so it has quite a lot of parts to it, so there is a lot to talk about. One can really go in depth about all the different characters and villians, about certain episodes and parts, and even power moves that are unique to different sagas. We feel that there is a lot to talk about here and it's about an anime series that is generally liked by most anime fans, so the panel will most likely be occupied by many people.

If we can just get a better explanation as to why these topics were rejected we'd appreciate it. We're open to adjusting these topics. Thanks.