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Title: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: L3sli3_Lov3s_Chu on November 05, 2008, 10:16:21 AM
I'm certainly happy. I hope to see a change.
What do others expect of Barack? Greatness or fail? I've heard alot of people feel abit iffy on his policies and stuff.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: K&K4ever on November 05, 2008, 11:40:10 AM
I'm glad he is going to fix that stupid tax cut that Bush gave the wealthy, My family could definetly use a break.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: L3sli3_Lov3s_Chu on November 05, 2008, 11:51:32 AM
Yeh, I tink things will be okay. Hopefully it'll be like the 90's all over again.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: mDuo13 on November 05, 2008, 12:47:18 PM
Hooray!

The hardest part is going to be these next couple months while Bush is still in office.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: L3sli3_Lov3s_Chu on November 05, 2008, 12:58:24 PM
Yeah, and then Barack has to choose persons for his Cabinet. Thats a job in its self.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Yuu on November 05, 2008, 01:27:39 PM

 He isn't Prez yet.

 Bush still has some time to screw things up (even more) for us.
 and he is definatly the- "I'm taking you down with me"- type.

 No sighs of relief until he is officially out of presidency.

 BTW anyone heard from Cheny recently?  This bothers me.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: L3sli3_Lov3s_Chu on November 05, 2008, 04:56:55 PM
Oh, yush... He must be inarguwaytid (<--  :'( I failz)
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Steve.Young on November 05, 2008, 06:22:28 PM
 :'( I cry for grammar and spelling.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: deonchan on November 05, 2008, 06:32:16 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/deon6370/presidentpokemon.gif)


But in all seriousness, I have mixed feelings about this election. For those that do not know I am a registered republican. I believe in free market and less government. So watching the balance of power shift to a larger government, more spending, left wing socialist ideal scares me. I see more taxes vs. corporations witch will lead to fewer jobs in the US. I see more outsourcing to foreign countries as their workers will take less pay so one again less job and less capital for the US. I see $$ wasted on alternative fuel options that have not been fully proven, will increase the cost of food (sugar and corn) or will be worse off for us in the long run.

On the other hand, part of me is overjoyed that in my lifetime I will see a black man sworn into the oval office. The election show just how far our young (compared to the rest of the world) country has come… and fast to! To any inner city or downtrodden person out there, this should show that anything and everything is possible if you work at it (wait... isn’t that a CONERTIVATE value and ideal...  :P ) anyways, here is to the next 4 years of change. Moreover, here is to the second coming of Regan… maybe it will be a black man.






Maybe it will be me…  ::)




No, seriously.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Steve.Young on November 05, 2008, 06:51:38 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/deon6370/presidentpokemon.gif)


But in all seriousness, I have mixed feelings about this election. For those that do not know I am a registered republican. I believe in free market and less government. So watching the balance of power shift to a larger government, more spending, left wing socialist ideal scares me. I see more taxes vs. corporations witch will lead to fewer jobs in the US. I see more outsourcing to foreign countries as their workers will take less pay so one again less job and less capital for the US. I see $$ wasted on alternative fuel options that have not been fully proven, will increase the cost of food (sugar and corn) or will be worse off for us in the long run.

On the other hand, part of me is overjoyed that in my lifetime I will see a black man sworn into the oval office. The election show just how far our young (compared to the rest of the world) country has come… and fast to! To any inner city or downtrodden person out there, this should show that anything and everything is possible if you work at it (wait... isn’t that a CONERTIVATE value and ideal...  :P ) anyways, here is to the next 4 years of change. Moreover, here is to the second coming of Regan… maybe it will be a black man.






Maybe it will be me…  ::)




No, seriously.

You know under George W. Bush the Federal Government has expanded into affairs previously untouched, the Government is spending more, and is generally larger than it was before.

Part of the alternative fuel thing is research, who knows what we may find? It's like funding to find a cure for AID's or Cancer. You don't know what will work or if anything at all will work, but you keep trying. Eventually you may have a break through that will pay dividends and much more.

Outsourcing labor to other countries at the moment is a concern far less significant than restructuring our financial institutions. Although I generally agree that the off shoring of jobs is not a good thing, you have to look at it both ways. If the company saves a lot of money on non-significant manufacturing/low wage jobs, they will probably be more financially stable in the long run which helps our economy (Not to mention that the companies would have capital freed for R&D, development, expansion, etc.) The United States has essentially become a service industry. Long gone are the days in which American factories dominated the job markets. A large % of workers in the U.S. is some kind of engineer, marketer, sales rep, accountant, R&D, etc. This could be a double edged sword, I don't know. Hindsight is 20/20. *Shrugs*
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: PyronIkari on November 05, 2008, 11:08:42 PM
The irony of this is hilarious. Why is leslie happy that Barack is president? Yet is glad that Prop8 passed.

Leslie: Do you actually know a single thing Barack stands for? A single thing he plans on changing?

Or are you just once more regurgitating what you here.

Here's some advice. Think for your god damned self. Research things, see what they mean, see how they will affect the world, and how they will affect you, and decide from there.

Until then, SHUT YOUR GOD DAMNED MOUTH.

Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Shinsengumi on November 06, 2008, 12:47:15 AM
I'm glad he is going to fix that stupid tax cut that Bush gave the wealthy, My family could definetly use a break.

I know what you mean, my mother could really need a break
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Mizuki on November 06, 2008, 11:20:20 AM
The irony of this is hilarious. Why is leslie happy that Barack is president? Yet is glad that Prop8 passed.

Leslie: Do you actually know a single thing Barack stands for? A single thing he plans on changing?

Or are you just once more regurgitating what you here.

Here's some advice. Think for your god damned self. Research things, see what they mean, see how they will affect the world, and how they will affect you, and decide from there.

Until then, SHUT YOUR GOD DAMNED MOUTH.


Pass?

Get out of my sub-forum. Now.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Yuu on November 07, 2008, 10:40:31 AM
Do you actually know a single thing Barack stands for? A single thing he plans on changing?



That was one thing that bothered me about Obama's campiegn.

" Change!"

 Okay, what KIND of change?"

" The good kind!!"

What are you changing?"

 "...Change!!"

I saw a Buss downtown ( Seattle) with some politican saying " MEANINGFUL change

 Oh! MEANINGFUL change! That explains EVERYTHING!

Instead of spending so much time and money on campaigning why don't they just hold a scrabble tournament?
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: K&K4ever on November 07, 2008, 11:59:39 AM
Well for one thing, he is going to fix the stupid tax cuts that Bush gave the rich
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: PyronIkari on November 07, 2008, 10:25:49 PM
Do you actually know a single thing Barack stands for? A single thing he plans on changing?



That was one thing that bothered me about Obama's campiegn.

" Change!"

 Okay, what KIND of change?"

" The good kind!!"

What are you changing?"

 "...Change!!"

I saw a Buss downtown ( Seattle) with some politican saying " MEANINGFUL change

 Oh! MEANINGFUL change! That explains EVERYTHING!

Instead of spending so much time and money on campaigning why don't they just hold a scrabble tournament?

I'm guessing you didn't bother watching the debates, listening to his plans nor his stance on anything, did you? You sound like you watched the daily show, south park, and saw a catch phrase without actually looking into the politics of the issue. He talked about what he wanted to change, and why he sees himself as the start of change for this country.

Besides the fact that one huge wall was torn down based solely on the fact that he's half black.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Yuu on November 08, 2008, 07:51:56 PM
Do you actually know a single thing Barack stands for? A single thing he plans on changing?



That was one thing that bothered me about Obama's campiegn.

" Change!"

 Okay, what KIND of change?"

" The good kind!!"

What are you changing?"

 "...Change!!"

I saw a Buss downtown ( Seattle) with some politican saying " MEANINGFUL change

 Oh! MEANINGFUL change! That explains EVERYTHING!

Instead of spending so much time and money on campaigning why don't they just hold a scrabble tournament?

I'm guessing you didn't bother watching the debates, listening to his plans nor his stance on anything, did you? You sound like you watched the daily show, south park, and saw a catch phrase without actually looking into the politics of the issue. He talked about what he wanted to change, and why he sees himself as the start of change for this country.

Besides the fact that one huge wall was torn down based solely on the fact that he's half black.

Actually, no. I don't have TV.  So I haven't watched anything in the past 6 months.

All I know is what I heard from everyone else which was 'Obama = change.'

 On that note; I'm out. I knew better than to reply to ANYTHING you say. I should listen to myself more often.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: PyronIkari on November 10, 2008, 01:04:40 AM

Actually, no. I don't have TV.  So I haven't watched anything in the past 6 months.

All I know is what I heard from everyone else which was 'Obama = change.'

 On that note; I'm out. I knew better than to reply to ANYTHING you say. I should listen to myself more often.

OH PLEASE!!!!

You make a horribly retarded comment about how Obama keep mentioning change, but didn't explain what it meant. Shall I quote you?

That was one thing that bothered me about Obama's campiegn.

" Change!"

 Okay, what KIND of change?"

" The good kind!!"

What are you changing?"

 "...Change!!"

I saw a Buss downtown ( Seattle) with some politican saying " MEANINGFUL change

 Oh! MEANINGFUL change! That explains EVERYTHING!

Instead of spending so much time and money on campaigning why don't they just hold a scrabble tournament?

You were the one that said Obama's campaign was always mentioning change but never said what the change was. You then admit to not knowing a damned thing about his campaign at all.

Let me emphasize this

Quote
On that note; I'm out. I knew better than to reply to ANYTHING you say. I should listen to myself more often.

You're right... you shouldn't reply to anything I say. You obviously don't know ANYTHING, so replying will only make you look stupid.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Jun-Watarase on November 10, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
Wait, what? You were just whining about how much you're irked by his campaign and how vague it is... when you just admitted to not even watching a single thing pertaining it. Do you not see the problem there? lol
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Steve.Young on November 10, 2008, 09:19:34 AM
Wait, what? You were just whining about how much you're irked by his campaign and how vague it is... when you just admitted to not even watching a single thing pertaining it. Do you not see the problem there? lol

You know, I often catch myself about to hit reply to something just to post something random about something I may or may not know anything about.

People have an...instinctive? Impulsive? I like Impulsive better, let us use that one.

People have an impulsive desire to hit reply and type something up about a subject, regardless of knowledge, just to do it. I know I do it all the time, but I don't feign ignorance or get defensive about a subject. I know better.

Here's some main points I want to make.

1) If your going to hit reply, say something, and then later get defensive about it when someone calls you out about something you say....just don't hit reply.

2) You should have known Mikey would be there to tell you your an idiot, especially if you say something like

" Change!"

 Okay, what KIND of change?"

" The good kind!!"

What are you changing?"

"...Change!!"

It's just asking for someone to come along and say something exactly what Mikey said. This is exactly what is wrong with American politics and education. People just listen to other people who have uninformed opinions about issues they know absolutely nothing about. This is how we f*** ourselves over in absolutely everything we do. Our generation is the worse offenders. Previous generations took the time to read the papers, listen to the debates on radio, etc. The younger generations, with access to the internet and various other technologies previous generations could only dream about, could easily stay informed but they choose not to.

Actually, no. I don't have TV.  So I haven't watched anything in the past 6 months.

All I know is what I heard from everyone else which was 'Obama = change.'

 On that note; I'm out. I knew better than to reply to ANYTHING you say. I should listen to myself more often.

Really? Seriously? Let me bold what you said and ask you if you voted in the election. Mikey is sometimes rude, offensive, bold, and a jerk. But most of the time, he is right on with his analysis. I wish he would put things in a different way sometime as well, but when you read things like what I have in bold in your statement, it makes people want to go through your statements and pick them apart.

3) You don't have a T.V. but you post on a internet forums. I'm guessing you have access to the internet. The internet is your friend in finding certain information to stay informed about Obama and his "Change". What does change mean? Go to dictionary.com or something. Read a few articles on CNN.com or Yahoo or newsweek or foxnews or SOMETHING. Don't say you don't have time, if you can post on this forums, you have enough time to read ONE article on Obama's meaning of change.



It's like the blind leading the blind sometimes...GAH

I usually never pick sides....but REALLY....REALLY!? GAH
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Mizuki on November 10, 2008, 03:22:37 PM
Wow, okay Yuu. I know you're going to read this, because no one ever truly stops reading a thread they posted in.

Other than what other people have said, i.e. not paying attention to a thing about this whole election, why don't you look at republicans. Are they any better? Beating around the bush to try and make the other person look bad.


 I wish there was a "filter out idiots" for this board because there's a TON of them.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Yuu on November 12, 2008, 08:58:02 AM
Wow, okay Yuu. I know you're going to read this, because no one ever truly stops reading a thread they posted in.

Other than what other people have said, i.e. not paying attention to a thing about this whole election, why don't you look at republicans. Are they any better? Beating around the bush to try and make the other person look bad.


 I wish there was a "filter out idiots" for this board because there's a TON of them.

 They do have 'idiot filter. aka Ignore feature.
You are half correct. I DO continue to read the threads, buit through the idiot filter.

I agree with you compeltley, the afore mentioned is why I hate politics in general. It just happened to be the topic at hand.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Jun-Watarase on November 12, 2008, 10:51:36 AM
They do have 'idiot filter. aka Ignore feature.
You are half correct. I DO continue to read the threads, buit through the idiot filter.

I agree with you compeltley, the afore mentioned is why I hate politics in general. It just happened to be the topic at hand.

Really? Because I still see you, despite you being an idiot.

Ignore feature =/= Idiot filter. And I don't exactly understand why you're asking a moderator, and a moderator of the debate/discussion board to make use of the ignore feature. The only people who use the ignore feature are those who whine about people they don't like or feel pissed off that they've been challenged with something they don't want to deal with (i.e. you). The ignore feature is bad because especially in a board like this, having people on ignore only leaves chunks left out of what has been contributed in said discussion and makes things broken and unorganized. The only time that I feel advocates the ignore feature is spammed troll posts with poor humor and macros.

Out of all the posts directed at your stupidity, even not including Mikey's, and yet you still failed to see why you're wrong. Okay, let's make it simple.

You: Obama's campaign sucks. All he says is "CHANGE!!!" but no mention of what he's changing.

Mikey: I guess you haven't watched the debates. He actually discussed what he was planning on changing. (Wow, reading this over, he didn't even insult you at all! Crazy sh*t.)

You: Well, I didn't watch the election at all! I'm just regurgitating what other stupid people tell me! But I'M GOING TO IGNORE YOU BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE YOUR WORDS.

Us: Wow... (Here's us being astounded by said stupidity.)


And also, good job of missing the point of Mizuki's post. He offered you the pity and a subject for you to reply to so you contributed to the conversation, that you failed to address and further dug yourself a hole into stupidity. Good job.

Really, make sure you actually KNOW SOMETHING about the subject before you say anything, as in THINK before you speak before you start irritating others with your jargon in a serious discussion. Actually, thinking before you speak is sort of recommended... for everything. Try it sometime.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: astroboy on November 12, 2008, 10:56:18 AM
....
They do have 'idiot filter. aka Ignore feature.
You are half correct. I DO continue to read the threads, buit through the idiot filter.
....
*nods head in approval*  ;D

Quote from: the first post
"I'm certainly happy. I hope to see a change.
What do others expect of Barack? Greatness or fail? I've heard alot of people feel abit iffy on his policies and stuff.
Fail

and here's why.
People are expecting waaaay too much from the man.
It's as if people think he's going to pay our mortgage and put gas in our cars. *seriously*
Peggy Joseph Thinks She Won't Need To Worry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk)

Woah with expectations that high it's a guarantee Obama will fail.  :D



Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: Jun-Watarase on November 12, 2008, 11:51:57 AM
People are expecting waaaay too much from the man.
It's as if people think he's going to pay our mortgage and put gas in our cars. *seriously*
Peggy Joseph Thinks She Won't Need To Worry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk)

Woah with expectations that high it's a guarantee Obama will fail.  :D

IAWTC. I'm glad someone mentioned it, actually. A lot of satire even addresses the issue of high expectations. Bush managed to cause a lot of damage for the country and its reputation, and Obama has the intention to improving that, but to the people, it extends to all major problems in their lives. The expectations for change are set to "Change = All the problems in my life, as an American, will be gone". But it isn't difficult to realize that that isn't true, and that things will take a whole 180.

Rationally, people would accept and be satisfied with the fact that things are put up to improve and that change means improvement, but the American people aren't typically rational people. It's still very early, though-- the election has shown that the people find Obama a good leader, but it takes more time to observe what he does to determine if he's a great one.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: PyronIkari on November 12, 2008, 08:22:30 PM
....
They do have 'idiot filter. aka Ignore feature.
You are half correct. I DO continue to read the threads, buit through the idiot filter.
....
*nods head in approval*  ;D

Quote from: the first post
"I'm certainly happy. I hope to see a change.
What do others expect of Barack? Greatness or fail? I've heard alot of people feel abit iffy on his policies and stuff.
Fail

and here's why.
People are expecting waaaay too much from the man.
It's as if people think he's going to pay our mortgage and put gas in our cars. *seriously*
Peggy Joseph Thinks She Won't Need To Worry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk)

Woah with expectations that high it's a guarantee Obama will fail.  :D





Then that's an expectation that will fail, not him as president. I honestly think he'll do fine, he might not completely fix everything, but he'll do a good job as president.
Title: Re: Barack Obama is the President!
Post by: astroboy on November 13, 2008, 04:43:39 PM
now that we all had a good laugh at Peggy Joseph in the video or should I say Peggy the Moocher,

Yes - Obama will Fail.
No - it will not be his fault.
Look at it this way, was it Herbert Hoover's fault that the USA had a great depression? ---> obviously not
Poor Herbert Hoover was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. The market moves on it's own cycles quite often with very little regard for who is in office.
I am convinced that 4 years from now the economy will be in worse shape then it is now. Why?, because that's how the market works.
Sometimes things go up and sometimes they go down.

now here comes the "interesting part" IMHO. Will Americans reelect Obama in 2012 or blame him?
What's Obama's game plan?
I think he will try to imitate FDR and it will fail.
I have my reasons.