i think ive outgrown fanimecon

Started by satanic_mechanic, August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PM

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satanic_mechanic

is this what it feels like to lose faith in God?

i don't know anymore.  i got my prereg at this fanime.... but rather then have me criticize fanime for getting worse and worse, maybe its just me.  maybe i am outgrowing it.

I'm 22.  some people would say "about damn time" and be done with it.  i used to go for the anime and Asian cinema and pc gaming (which was super-tight and it sucked soooooo bad that it wasnt there last year).  now there is all this other stuff.  cosplay seems to dominate as always, and i don't participate unless its with a gf or part of a large group theme.  This past fanime seemed more like AnCafeCon then anything else. And since when did furries start coming to fanime...?

the forums are dominated by 4chan rejects... its starting to overshadow all the good that there is in fanime.

maybe i should join staff and try to work through these problems to see if they have an institutional root, or at least an institutional solution.  fanimecon can be way improved with some systemic tweaking.

bring back the pc gaming. improve the quality of animes shown, or at least strive harder to vett them for quality.  be more willing to introduce innovative ideas, like 18+ fanime speed dating, or a fanime "dating game" type game show, or a boffer room, or expanded card or board gaming; reaching out to other interests and subdemographics within the fanime demographic - these are all great ideas and with a little dillegence could be pulled off with exellence and make fanime an overall better event.


a humble suggestion from someone who is feeling a little tight for his fanime underoos.

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mDuo13

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
is this what it feels like to lose faith in God?
Um, I'm pretty sure an anime convention and God are pretty different.

P.S. furries have been coming to fanime for a long time. They didn't have as many booths before, but they were there. They're not too hard to ignore, though.

XpHoBiaX

Well, all I have to say is join staff and go to their meetings and see what happens from there.
And yeah, furries have been there as long as anime has been around.

If it's really that bad...I suggest you go to more adult oriented conventions, or find another site to be apart of.

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Nyxyin

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PMi used to go for the anime and Asian cinema and pc gaming
Going to Fanime (or any anime convention, I imagine) is somewhat like a roleplaying game with jobs.  At first, everybody starts as a generic newbie.  People tend to just spend money and watch (anime, masquerade, music videos, panels, etc).  As the players increase in level, just watching gets boring, so many start choosing job specialties: volunteer, artist, cosplayer, competitor, panelist, press, pusher, parent, and so on.  Of course, if you've outgrown Fanime, that's fine too.  I believe I read something about Fanime letting people transfer memberships to others in previous years, so it might be worth asking the registration people about it.

Also, the con is what you make of it.  I just ignored the An Cafe stuff.  For me, last year's Fanime was totally GAINAX con, and I loved every second of it.

By the way, I heard that the boffer room was almost ready to happen last year except that they put it on hold to accommodate the last-minute GAINAX guests, so I'm guessing we haven't heard the last of that idea.  On the other hand, wouldn't a boffer room be more likely to attract 4chan reject types?

Kazuko

IMO Fanime 08 was like GAINAX and Ancafe con so if you werent a fan of either many were left to socialize or look for pannels that would suit some interest. People get con jaded sometimes where everything just lacks interest or nothing as the same as last year. This year I almost felt it if not for the amazing friends/roomates that I shared my 4th fanime with~

For some people certain years are better than others. Like besides an cafe for being amazing, I felt like it was just lacking overall in musicfest, I was dissapointed with the lack of music. I felt 07 was so much better in that department because they were indie groups and it felt more intimate.

I am reaaaly hoping for some variety in cosplay for 09, I dont really like to swim in a sea of bleach/naruto-tards.

LordKefka

#5
There are tons of fun things to do:

-Swap Meet (^0^)
-Dealers' Room
-Certain Panels
-Hanging out with people <----------------- this is pretty important I guess and the most fun for me.
-Drinking ( in your room and responsibly of course =P) and playing MvC2, Melty Blood, and doing other stuff ( as long as you aren't acting like an idiot or going crazy)

It's not like your going there to critique it every year..*cough*..>_>.. so make the most out of it. If you already know what you dislike, you could always avoid those and look for the things you haven't looked into.

I honestly think you just need to get to know a few people and chill with them. It makes the con more fun and less lonely.

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Quote from: mDuo13 on August 27, 2008, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: satanic_mechanic on August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
is this what it feels like to lose faith in God?
Um, I'm pretty sure an anime convention and God are pretty different.

Not necessarily.
One could have much faith for a convention as they do for a god.
Though kinda creepy.


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Dude you're never too old to like an anime convention!

JohnnyAR

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Quote from: LordKefka on August 27, 2008, 07:32:05 PM
I honestly think you just need to get to know a few people and chill with them. It's makes the con more fun and less lonely.

I felt like there was something missing a this year's con, maybe it was because of that.

Quote from: Kazuko on August 27, 2008, 07:31:05 PM
I am reaaaly hoping for some variety in cosplay for 09, I dont really like to swim in a sea of bleach/naruto-tards.

Damn right!

Quote from: satanic_mechanic on August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
the forums are dominated by 4chan rejects... its starting to overshadow all the good that there is in fanime.

I'll never go on that I site, I've heard what goes on over there.

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Don't worry JohnnyAR, I'll keep you company =3

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There are a lot of things that you have to consider when you take all these ideas and institute them.

There is of course one large one you have to think of. LIABILITY. Speed Dating (regardless of 18+) could lead to stalkers, inappropriate touching, things getting out of control. Being a sponsered by Fanime event, Fanime could potentially have liability if something were to happen. Fanime Con doesn't just do stuff on a whim, as is the case when most people think of these ideas.

Logistics. PC Gaming, if you read the posts/forums over there, logistically was a hassle every year to get enough systems "Donated" by staff or con-goers for gaming use. Not to mention having computers able to play most of the games that people wanted to play on the systems. I don't know how many people understand how GPU intensive some of the new games are and how you have to have a computer system that can run it effectively. Now, if you can honestly find a company to sponser PC Gaming, then Fanime would more than likely welcome PC Gaming back. Maybe you can try to convince fanime to buy some computers (Doubt it).

I'm 21. I go to work SOS/Rovers, that's it. I couldn't care about the programing and I've never heard of An Cafe until I had to sit in a car with them and watch out for them during the con. What the heck is GAINAX?!? I don't know...

Honestly, the con is what YOU make of it. If you aren't having fun, you might want to think of ways YOU can make Fanime fun for yourself.
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SOawesomeness

Input, but my friend who is also on staff said this about Fanime (or along the lines of it...)
"I don't really go to Fanime for the anime stuff, I mean, there's stuff to see and some things that are interesting, but for me, the people that I meet and things that I see are the reasons why I go to Fanime. And because the things that I want to see are pretty scarce, I work on staff so I can keep myself busy and meet new people to enjoy the convention with. I'm not interested in what Fanime is mostly about except seeing interesting cosplays, a few azn movies, and meeting new people."

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Mizuki

I just go cuz my friends drag me, and I see friends I never see during the year, and it's a nice relaxing weekend for me, and I buy loli figures, play games, troll people irl, etc.

HavicMichaelchris

As with everything, money is in the majority. The more people want cetain things, the less others will have. Sure everyone is pretty much just going for cosplay, dancing, concerts and the social aspects; but that is what people wanted, the more a demographic wants something, the more the company will supply. Look at this years AX as opposed to Fanime. AX was more loaid back and about the anime and other asain influnences, while Fanime was who could get more recognition. 4Chan is everywhere, deal with it.
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Quote from: satanic_mechanic on August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
the forums are dominated by 4chan rejects... its starting to overshadow all the good that there is in fanime.

I got banned from the site the moment I viewed it. Rofl. I though that was pretty Epic, considering I hadn't even gotten to sign up yet.


Anyways. I am 23, and I have been going to fanime ever since I was 15. It's only been consecutively since 2005. I go to Fanime becuase I  can only see people and friends that ONE TIME. It's like a Christmas for me.
I'd be staff, but I live too far away to go to meetings. :/ I never know how life is gonna treat me anyways, so it's a major deal for me to go to fanime. I go to get away, have fun, and chill with pretty cool people.

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ININ

I share what saved me from quitting anime conventions and anime in 2004:  cosplay.  You don't need a girlfriend or a bunch of people to cosplay.  The number one reason why I attend anime conventions is to hang out with my friends and meet new people.

I agree with everyone else.  Fanime (and any anime conventions you attend) is what you make of it.  If you like to watch videos and shop at the dealers room and you're happy, that's great XD  If you like to play tabletop gaming and you're happy, that's great XD  Nobody is going to tell you the right way or wrong way to enjoy a con.

JohnnyAR

Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on August 28, 2008, 07:18:02 PM
Don't worry JohnnyAR, I'll keep you company =3

*Creepy Crackling Laugh*

We should start a High School gathering or something, I remember a specific high school that had a anime club and they usually attend Fanime. Actually someone on the forums goes to that high school!

JTchinoy

i'll be turning 22 before fanime and i'll probably be running the tournaments again.
if you mean the wow and holy shit factor of fanime, that left me like 3 years ago.  lol.
fanime to me is like hot import nights.  something that comes around every now and then and i just go to it.
it's also pretty much the only time i buy gundam models :P

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Quote from: Nyxyin on August 27, 2008, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: satanic_mechanic on August 27, 2008, 12:34:50 PMi used to go for the anime and Asian cinema and pc gaming
Going to Fanime (or any anime convention, I imagine) is somewhat like a roleplaying game with jobs.  At first, everybody starts as a generic newbie.  People tend to just spend money and watch (anime, masquerade, music videos, panels, etc).  As the players increase in level, just watching gets boring, so many start choosing job specialties: volunteer, artist, cosplayer, competitor, panelist, press, pusher, parent, and so on.  Of course, if you've outgrown Fanime, that's fine too.  I believe I read something about Fanime letting people transfer memberships to others in previous years, so it might be worth asking the registration people about it.


i agree with what nyxyin is saying it is what you make of it
i felt the same way that you did about it. but after i realized last year i just kinda treated it like it was going to entertain me and i didnt have to do anything i decided that this year im going to become more involved and be more outgoing and take a part in more things (like swap meets and gatherings)

but i know the feeling and if you feel that fanime just isnt doing it for you you can just not go thats a legitimate thing to do

(im not trying to flame sry if it came out like that its not my intention....)
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